C&C on a 486-66
RDClark
>crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
>settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
>one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
>comparable to a pentium?
It's not your CPU. On my DX2/66 with ISA video, C&C runs faster than I
want it to, so I turn it down almost to the minimum. I honestly can't see
how a Pentium would benefit the game.
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Droz
: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
I've played this on a 486/66 8MB, a P-90 8MB, and a P-90 16 MB, and there
was only a barely noticeable difference in game speed. In fact, the
16 meg P-90 had little burps as the music switched tracks (this was the only
system with Win 95, maybe that was the difference...)
Droz
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:Michael Farley (m...@crash.cts.com) wrote:
:: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
:: crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
:: settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
:: one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
:: comparable to a pentium?
DX/4-100 works fine. Sometimes, though. modem play freezes up for 10-15 seconds,
and the other guy gets to stomp your guts while you're helpless. FWIW, I am
using 16MB RAM.
:I've played this on a 486/66 8MB, a P-90 8MB, and a P-90 16 MB, and there
:was only a barely noticeable difference in game speed. In fact, the
:16 meg P-90 had little burps as the music switched tracks (this was the only
:system with Win 95, maybe that was the difference...)
Using DOS on a DX/4-100, I get burps when the music switches- why? Is there more
to the music than simply repositioning the CDROM read head and updating the
music list??
Brian Trosko
: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
: crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
: settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
: one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
: comparable to a pentium?
My dx4/100 has absolutely no problem whatsoever with the game. The only
time there's any kind of slowdown at all is occasionally when a new song
starts. I've never had enough units moving around to cause any sort of
stutter or slowness.
RDClark
there more
>to the music than simply repositioning the CDROM read head and updating
the
>music list??
Mechwarrior2 does the same thing. It seems to mostly be a matter of how
well the CD-ROM device driver handles CD Audio calls. Some drives prodoce
longer pauses than others. It's not a CPU-related thing.
Robin Woehler
Michael Farley <m...@crash.cts.com> wrote:
> Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
> crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
> settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
> one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
> comparable to a pentium?
It runs perfect on my DX2/66. But it became very sluggish on the final
GDI mission, when the computer had produced something around 200
infantery guys which just waited for me to take his first little base.
After some of these were killed, the game got fast again.
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Rich
wrote:
>Michael Farley <m...@crash.cts.com> wrote:
>: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
>: crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
>: settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
>: one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
>: comparable to a pentium?
>
>My dx4/100 has absolutely no problem whatsoever with the game. The only
>time there's any kind of slowdown at all is occasionally when a new song
>starts. I've never had enough units moving around to cause any sort of
>stutter or slowness.
Hmm....I've got a P-90 with 16 meg, and a 486-dx2/50 with 8 meg, and
the game runs fine on both. The 486 is slightly less smooth, but with
the speed set 2 notches below fastest (miidpoint) they run about the
same speed. I haven't tried setting the speed on the 486 to fastest,
but I suspect that there will be little to no increase (guess I should
test it instead of guessing). The 486 has an old ISA video card with
1 meg, using the Cyrus chipset. I'm not sure why it would be sluggish
on your 486-66, but if you have any questions about my setup, let me
know and I'll try to give you a hand speeding it up.
Rich
Timothy Field
D >: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
D >: crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
D >: settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
D >: one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
D >: comparable to a pentium?
I'm playing on an AMD 486DX-40, 8Mb RAM and a Double speed CD-Rom
drive. The game works fine and at a reasonable speed. The only thing
that doesn't work is the modem play. It brings up a message about how
the modem is not wired correctly. I have a Supra Fax 14.4 internal
modem. Sometimes the modem game commences but the units will not move
and a message appears saying the opposition's modem is "not responding".
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: D >: Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
: I'm playing on an AMD 486DX-40, 8Mb RAM and a Double speed CD-Rom
: drive. The game works fine and at a reasonable speed. The only thing
I have an AMD 486DX2-66, 16 Mb RAM and a philips lms 2x cdrom... and the
game run beutifully... I think it has to do with the CPU and the ram...
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C&C runs fine on my 486DX-33 with 8Mb of RAM, 2x CDROM.
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Robin Woehler
> >> Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
> >
> >It runs perfect on my DX2/66. But it became very sluggish on the final
> >GDI mission, when the computer had produced something around 200
> >infantery guys which just waited for me to take his first little base.
> >After some of these were killed, the game got fast again.
> Runs just fine on my 4DX2/66 as well. I have 64MB RAM, Matrox
Gosh. I only got 32. ;-)
> PCI Impression+ (2MB) video card. Do you have an IDE CD-ROM drive ?
> If so, perhaps disabling the music-option might help...
No. PCI, 2MB Video, SCSI, Quad-CD. It was definitely the mass of
infantery units the computer created in the last scenario.
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Joseph M Schaeffer
> In article <44cns0$5...@news2.cts.com>, m...@crash.cts.com (Michael Farley) writes:
> |> Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
>
>
> You should check your computer. C&C runs as smooth as smooth can
> be on my dx2-66,vlb, 8megs, 2x cd.
> --
> Stephane Picard
It evens run great on my dx2-50, vlb, 8megs, 2x CD
Joseph Schaeffer
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Eric Dorsey
: In article <DFoIL...@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, spi...@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Stephane Picard) writes:
: > In article <44cns0$5...@news2.cts.com>, m...@crash.cts.com (Michael Farley) writes:
: > |> Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
: > |> crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
: > |> settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
: > |> one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
: > |> comparable to a pentium?
: >
Truely strange... I can get C&C to work perfectly well, I mean, no
slowdown and full audio, on my now becoming obsolete 486SX25 w/ 8MB RAM.
Just goes to show you, never believe the system requirements on the box!
Eric.
ed9...@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca
Stephane Picard
|> : I'm playing on an AMD 486DX-40, 8Mb RAM and a Double speed CD-Rom
|> : drive. The game works fine and at a reasonable speed. The only thing
|>
|> I have an AMD 486DX2-66, 16 Mb RAM and a philips lms 2x cdrom... and the
|> game run beutifully... I think it has to do with the CPU and the ram...
On my dx2-66, 8megs, 2x CD, I have to play at the slowest speed setting.
If I set the speed any higher, the game foes too fast, especially when there
are many units.
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Stephane Picard
Donald Good
settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
comparable to a pentium?<<<<
I have a 486DX@-66 with 8 megs and C&C runs just fine. There's
something wrong with your video card, or your cpu. It's not the game.
western aquatic research facility
Runs good on my 486SX-66 with 8 megs. It slows down in some parts,
but so did Dune 2 on my 486/33 with 4 megs. Running it in Win 95
is a little slow, but just exiting to dos speeds it up pretty
good. In two years with a p-7, you will be complaining it
moves to fast;)
Eric Hayashi
>>>>>Boy C&C on my 486DX2-66 runs like a SLUG!!! Its unplayable! the troops
>crawl around so slow I fall asleep. This is with the combat speed
>settings set on fastest. Ive got 8meg o ram but not enough i guess. Any
>one run this game on a DX4-100 or DX4-120? Guess its faster but is it
>comparable to a pentium?<<<<
Yeah, DX4-100 w/ 16MB of RAM flies. However, do you have VESA-Local Bus? If
you have a DX2-66 you really should have VLB. Otherwise your video slows
everything down.
RDClark
>However, do you have VESA-Local Bus? If
>you have a DX2-66 you really should have VLB.
>Otherwise your video slows
>everything down.
Generally true, but in C&C video throughput really isn't the issue. Game
speed in this game seems to be directly proportional to the number of
units in play, since each and every one of them is active and under CPU
control at all times -- whether they're being actively drawn on the screen
or not. I'm sure that Westwood's DX2/66 minimum is based on this factor,
not on video issues.
Michael Martina
Runs fine on my 486/33 with 16Mb RAM.
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Eric Hayashi
>Generally true, but in C&C video throughput really isn't the issue. Game
>speed in this game seems to be directly proportional to the number of
>units in play, since each and every one of them is active and under CPU
>control at all times -- whether they're being actively drawn on the screen
>or not. I'm sure that Westwood's DX2/66 minimum is based on this factor,
>not on video issues.
I stand corrected. C&C does slow down a bit when you have many units in play.
Jean-Paul Burlock u
Although it slows at points.
I think the problem lies in the complexity of the game. Ever unit in
play can have different tasks. Meaning that every unit takes up
processor power. Especially in a big battle when there's like 5 orcas
flying around, gunboats wailing, tanks firing everywhere and tons of
infantry running about launching grenades. Each of these must be
individually "processed".
Not too different from multitasking... in the way that each
program takes up a little more processing.
J.P.
Michael Dean
When I had my Diamond Viper I thought my p60 was REALLY slow when I
played Warcraft. I upgraded to the MGA Millenium and watched my
performance skyrocket in both VGA and SVGA (DOS and Windows BOTH!)
-mikey
Jet
Pretty amazing programming if you ask me. Despite all this... It's still fast on my
486/66 16mRAM 2mVRAM.
Have you tried playing it over a modem or over the internet? It's still fast,
although if you have a ton of men, it does slow down (hardly at all) :P
Jet
Charles C. Lembke
: Truely strange... I can get C&C to work perfectly well, I mean, no
: slowdown and full audio, on my now becoming obsolete 486SX25 w/ 8MB RAM.
: Just goes to show you, never believe the system requirements on the box!
: Eric.
: ed9...@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca
I took a chance that C&C would run on my 386DX40, 8M ram, 3x SCSI CDROM. It
did, through all NOD and GDI missions. GDI 15 was painfully slow. If
there was some way to turn off the animation on buildings, infantry
at rest and all non visible units, I suspect it wouldn't be bad at all. I
did get a few crashes, but I suspect that the instruction set used was
not 486 specific.
Magic Carpet on the other hand, used 386 code in the demo, but 486 code
in the actual game. Go figure.
Moral: System requirements are bogus at best.
Charles Lembke
c-le...@uiuc.edu