HOMM3:SOD Hey! Where'd my Yog go?
David Chu Lin
I've encountered the same problem. But it can't be a 'design feature'
as you said because the game specifically stated in the final scenario
of the first 5 campaigns that the heroes stats including their experience
points, spells, and skills will all be carried over to the next campaign.
The description of the final scenarios were very specific and I can't see
how it can be interpreted otherwise. Thus, it can't be a 'design feature'
and must be a bug in the game.
Dave
In article <20000502023139...@ng-co1.aol.com>,
NFLed <nf...@aol.com> wrote:
>I haven't played SOD yet but I've heard everyone complain about this. It's a
>limitation of the game (or a design feature) which prevents a hero from being
>carried over from one campaign to another.
>
>Ed B.
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JimP
it stands, this is very dissappointing. I wish one of the helpful HoMM
people would comment--what are the chances of NWC changing the nholy
Alliance campaign to carry over the heroes?
Jim
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Bill Seurer
level 25 to level 30. Only it's not my Yog! I went back and checked
to make sure.
My Yog Imposter
Attack 28 13
Defense 24 8
Power 5 3
Know. 13 6
Plus I lost Logistics, Air Magic (don't ask), and Artillery and gained
Resistance, Archery, and Armorer and the others are in a different
order. His specialty changed from Chain Lightning to Cyclops and his
picture changed too.
Ok, so losing Air Magic and changing specialties is a gain but the
attribute losses are rather severe (and no the "My Yog" wasn't wearing
any magic items).
Any idea what happened or how I can get MY Yog back?
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Christoph Nahr
wrote:
>I just started the Unholy Alliance campaign where you take Yog from
>level 25 to level 30. Only it's not my Yog! I went back and checked
>to make sure.
Well-known bug (or design decision). Unholy Alliance gives you a
bunch of new heroes, with the same names but random skills. The
in-game text is incorrect (this is definitely a bug).
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Michael W. Daniels
<20000502023139...@ng-co1.aol.com>:
>I haven't played SOD yet but I've heard everyone complain about this.
> It's a limitation of the game (or a design feature) which prevents a
>hero from being carried over from one campaign to another.
No, I think it's a bug. My Yog transferred over with no skill problems
or attribute problems.
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Stewart Baldwin
>I agree that the initial campaigns imply that the hero will carry over. As
>it stands, this is very dissappointing. I wish one of the helpful HoMM
>people would comment--what are the chances of NWC changing the nholy
>Alliance campaign to carry over the heroes?
>
>Jim
>
>David Chu Lin <da...@Stanford.EDU> wrote in message
>news:8eltc3$m...@elaine34.Stanford.EDU...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've encountered the same problem. But it can't be a 'design feature'
>> as you said because the game specifically stated in the final scenario
>> of the first 5 campaigns that the heroes stats including their experience
>> points, spells, and skills will all be carried over to the next campaign.
>> The description of the final scenarios were very specific and I can't see
>> how it can be interpreted otherwise. Thus, it can't be a 'design feature'
>> and must be a bug in the game.
>>
>> Dave
I agree completely. The people at NWC, who have usually been very
good in the past about telling this newsgroup what is going on, have
been strangely silent on this matter. How about it NWC? What's the
deal here?
Stewart Baldwin
Walter Johnson
> I agree completely. The people at NWC, who have usually been very
> good in the past about telling this newsgroup what is going on, have
> been strangely silent on this matter. How about it NWC? What's the
> deal here?
Heroes can not be transferred between different campaigns.
The text is incorrect.
Walter
Walter Johnson
NWC Level Designer
Michael Roper
> Heroes can not be transferred between different campaigns.
>
> The text is incorrect.
Thanks for the clarification Walter. I take it this means that it's a
limitation of the campaign editor and not a bug? Unfortunately, while
the idea of linking campaigns is nice (I thought the SOD campaigns were
the best I've seen in the series)--the enjoyment penalty of tossing out
hero development is severe. Almost any other solution to starting with
a random, level-25 hero would have been preferable.
Michael Roper
mich...@encraft.com
Ed Rutherford
Walter Johnson <wjoh...@nwcomputing.com> wrote in message
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> ...snip
> > I agree completely. The people at NWC, who have usually been very
> > good in the past about telling this newsgroup what is going on, have
> > been strangely silent on this matter. How about it NWC? What's the
> > deal here?
>
> Heroes can not be transferred between different campaigns.
>
> The text is incorrect.
>
> Walter
>
> Walter Johnson
> NWC Level Designer
Boo Hiss. IIRC NWC was able to transfer heroes between AB campaigns just
fine ... at least I seem to remember Roland, Catherine, and Gelu all
transferring properly. To the best of my knowledge there shouldn't be any
limitations that would prevent NWC from transferring characters in SOD.
My new question is what's going on at NWC?? SOD has some of the best
individual campaign maps and mini-campaigns that I've played in a long time
(since HOMM2). However there are these glaring failures that have started
to crop up:
1. The CD copy protection problem that wasn't caught by quality control.
2. The latest patches for the original HOMM3 & AB have the "5th misc.
artifact bug".
3. Characters not transferring over that were supposed to (given the text)
4. The limitation in SOD (I guess only SOD) that PREVENTS characters from
transferring over.
5. The reemergence of the "right click crash to desktop" bug (I hope there
is something in MY config that is causing this -- it doesn't look
widespread).
The NWC that I know & love wouldn't have let the above things happen. The
NWC that I know would have delayed the game 3-6 months to have hammered out
any bugs or details to insure that they have the BEST quality product on the
shelves.
Don't get me wrong. I'll still probably buy HOMM4 but I probably WON"T buy
it sight unseen but will wait a month or so to see how the quality turns
out.
Unfortunately because it's so easy to download patches from the internet it
looks like getting something right the first time (or even second time) is
not a major priority. It wouldn't surprise me that in the near future to
see companies release buggy products but only patch/fix those that are
selling well -- afterall why spend the money to put out a quality product
that people aren't buying anyway. Of course it won't get any better as long
as we (the consumer) continue to buy products sight unseen without checking
the products beforehand to see if they are a quality product.