CGW and CD-ROM's
'Fulcrum' PJ Ocampo
Did anybody else read Johhny L. Wilson's editorial in the September
issue (please, I've read the flame wars so let's keep jaybird,
Emrich, and Co. out of this thread).
A few snippets...
"We want our readers, both on the newstand and when you subscribe,
to be able (to)* have that same opportunity."
* I had to add that "to", horrible copy editing, I write for a daily
newspaper and have some friends CGW could hire about this.
Anyways...
"We're working on ways to provide the same enchanced CD to subscribers"
Acht mein Lieber! Has CGW seen the light??? I may just renew my
subscription after all. I let it expire after the CD-ROM debacle
earlier this year. I've been happily shelling out cash at the newstand
for CGW and getting the disk instead. But now...
Philip Jason Ocampo
University of Washington
Old Salt
>Hmmm...you talking about Sept.1995 issue #134? All I see is
>a "Truth in Labeling" editorial. Oh, and far as the
>"same opportunity" goes, subscribers will be paying more
>for those CD's just like the newstand buyers. Newstand
>buyers are now paying $4.95 for CGW instead of $3.95...which
>is quite odd, since that Sept CD says its a "free CD".
Yes and for this reason I will never buy a CGW mag again. I long ago drop
there subscription, now I will no longer get it from the newsstand.
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> Yes and for this reason I will never buy a CGW mag again. I long ago drop
>there subscription, now I will no longer get it from the newsstand.
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Say, you the same "old salt" who used to be on Genie? If so, a big
hello!! Just like CGW, your not missing much either on Genie...dead as
a doorknob there.
Jay...@en.com
>
>Did anybody else read Johhny L. Wilson's editorial in the September
>issue (please, I've read the flame wars so let's keep jaybird,
>Emrich, and Co. out of this thread).
>
>A few snippets...
>
>"We want our readers, both on the newstand and when you subscribe,
>to be able (to)* have that same opportunity."
>
>* I had to add that "to", horrible copy editing, I write for a daily
>newspaper and have some friends CGW could hire about this.
>
MSU Corey
practice that a mag comes with a CD and mysteriously costs one or two
bucks more that month.
Robert v Luthardt jr
Can you _read_?
>'Fulcrum' PJ Ocampo <ful...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>
>>Did anybody else read Johhny L. Wilson's editorial in the September
>>issue (please, I've read the flame wars so let's keep jaybird,
>>Emrich, and Co. out of this thread).
Did you _miss_ that part?
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Jay...@en.com
>
>Can you _read_?
>
>
>
>Did you _miss_ that part?
>
Yeah, I can read, So what?, its a free country last time I checked,
so KISS OFF!
JEFF LACKEY
>so KISS OFF!
I've got to tell ya, even if you have any legitimate points to make,
your on-line demeanor comes across like some of the kids on-line. All
of the comments like the one above, the highly emotive insults to
everyone associated with CGW, the "yah yah" comments. It would be a
lot easier to take your side of the issues seriously if your post were
a bit more calm and adult in nature. As it is, you really are losing
credibility with your over the top flames, you sound like the many kids
that run around the various newsgroups flaming everyone in sight.
-+jeff+-
* 1st 2.00 #8118 * I came close to seeing Elvis once but I broke my shovel
Jay...@en.com
>blah, blah, blah<
I've got to tell ya Jeff, even if you have any legitimate points to make,
your on-line demeanor comes across like some of the kids on-line. All
of the comments like the one above, the highly emotive insults to
everyone associated with CGW, the "yah yah" comments. It would be a
lot easier to take your side of the issues seriously if your post were
a bit more calm and adult in nature. As it is, you really are losing
credibility with your over the top flames, you sound like the many kids
that run around the various newsgroups flaming everyone in sight.
Jaybird
JEFF LACKEY
>your on-line demeanor comes across like some of the kids on-line. All
>of the comments like the one above, the highly emotive insults to
>everyone associated with CGW, the "yah yah" comments. It would be a
>lot easier to take your side of the issues seriously if your post were
>a bit more calm and adult in nature. As it is, you really are losing
>credibility with your over the top flames, you sound like the many kids
>that run around the various newsgroups flaming everyone in sight.
JD>Jaybird
Huh? I suppose quoting my message to you and substituting my name for
yours is, uh, clever? Kinda like when I was twelve and my little
brother would try to irritate me by copying everythng I said, I guess.
Oh, well.
-+jeff+-
* 1st 2.00 #8118 * Great Games Make You Sweat!
uabbr...@cc.memphis.edu
> jeff....@swcbbs.com (JEFF LACKEY) wrote:
>>blah, blah, blah<
>
>
> your on-line demeanor comes across like some of the kids on-line. All
> of the comments like the one above, the highly emotive insults to
> everyone associated with CGW, the "yah yah" comments. It would be a
> lot easier to take your side of the issues seriously if your post were
> a bit more calm and adult in nature. As it is, you really are losing
> credibility with your over the top flames, you sound like the many kids
As opposed to your case where you have previously lost your credibility?
> that run around the various newsgroups flaming everyone in sight.
Kind of sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
> Jaybird
-Tony
Old Salt
sue me. Anyway, what I find really strange about the the "Free, pay the
extra dollar" disk I got. Was you needed Windows to run it. Just so you
could read a few text files about the demos that were on the CD. Now the
text files on the CD said about the demos on the CD "install and run from
DOS" Why the hell did I need to go in to Windows to read text files that
tell me to do every thing from DOS. Come on guys, you can tell me. Does
Bill Gates own Ziff-Davis Publishing?
Robert v Luthardt jr
>jeff....@swcbbs.com (JEFF LACKEY) wrote:
>>blah, blah, blah<
>
>
>I've got to tell ya Jeff, even if you have any legitimate points to make,
>your on-line demeanor comes across like some of the kids on-line. All
>of the comments like the one above, the highly emotive insults to
>everyone associated with CGW, the "yah yah" comments. It would be a
>lot easier to take your side of the issues seriously if your post were
>a bit more calm and adult in nature. As it is, you really are losing
>credibility with your over the top flames, you sound like the many kids
>
Wow.
Now he plagiarizes for FREE!
Used to get paid for it, once upon a time.
Jay...@en.com
Well, as the old saying goes, fool me once CGW, shame on you, fool
me twice, shame on me :) Real scam by CGW, paying the extra dollar to CGW
for a "free" CD.
Robert v Luthardt jr
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To anyone _else_ who didn't read the explanation of the CD inside the issue of
CGW, (and to anyone who simply looks for every loose thread to pull apart!),
Here is what was said:
(reprinted without permission. sue me, please.)
"...we thought about what we'd like in a Computer Gaming World CD-ROM and came
up with a lot of ideas which you'll see over the next year. As a newsstand
reader, this issue offers a mere glimpse of _some_ of the types of material we
plan to provide, in addition to computer game demos provided by game
publishers. So, think of the Computer Gaming World material on this CD as a
combination teaser/technology demo and let us know if you liked the idea."
For those of you who _still_ don't get it, (or still have a personal need to
nit-pick at every stupid little thing to advance your own, pathetic
insecurities)...
The CD-ROM in this issue of CGW is a _DEMO_ in and of itself! The idea
is to take this tiny sampling of the _proposed_ technology, and give feedback
to CGW about it.
This CD is _NOT_ the final product. It is simply a test CD.
For myself, I thought it was great, even with the need to shell to DOS in
order to play any of the "included" demos.
The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like to see
_ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the entire patch list
page from the back of the magazine, and put all the current patches on the
CD-ROM.
THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
Jay...@en.com
>
>For those of you who _still_ don't get it, (or still have a personal need to
>nit-pick at every stupid little thing to advance your own, pathetic
>insecurities)...
>
> The CD-ROM in this issue of CGW is a _DEMO_ in and of itself! The idea
>is to take this tiny sampling of the _proposed_ technology, and give feedback
>to CGW about it.
>This CD is _NOT_ the final product. It is simply a test CD.
>
>For myself, I thought it was great, even with the need to shell to DOS in
>order to play any of the "included" demos.
>
>The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like to see
>_ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the entire patch list
>page from the back of the magazine, and put all the current patches on the
>CD-ROM.
>
>THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
>
>
Hmmm....think its you Robert who _still_ doesnt get it! Folks who
thought that demo was a rip due to the fact they paid extra for that
"free test"CD demo. Not some future fanstasy nit picks of _real_ CD demos
by CGW that might "well be worth the extra dollar"
Old Salt
>To anyone _else_ who didn't read the explanation of the CD inside the issue of
>CGW, (and to anyone who simply looks for every loose thread to pull apart!),
>Here is what was said:
I read it!
>
>(reprinted without permission. sue me, please.)
>
>"...we thought about what we'd like in a Computer Gaming World CD-ROM and came
>up with a lot of ideas which you'll see over the next year. As a newsstand
>reader, this issue offers a mere glimpse of _some_ of the types of material we
>plan to provide, in addition to computer game demos provided by game
>publishers. So, think of the Computer Gaming World material on this CD as a
>combination teaser/technology demo and let us know if you liked the idea."
>
>
>For those of you who _still_ don't get it, (or still have a personal need to
>nit-pick at every stupid little thing to advance your own, pathetic
>insecurities)...
>
> The CD-ROM in this issue of CGW is a _DEMO_ in and of itself! The idea
>is to take this tiny sampling of the _proposed_ technology, and give feedback
>to CGW about it.
>This CD is _NOT_ the final product. It is simply a test CD.
What demo? All it was, was a shell to access the text files! A pretty menu
that you needed Windows to use. Period!!! Now if it was a real demo, that
did more. Sure, I would agree with you. But it was NOT that.
>
>For myself, I thought it was great, even with the need to shell to DOS in
>order to play any of the "included" demos.
Well if you thought that was great, then I can understand your view.
Personally I like the fact I can shell out of windows when I need to run a
DOS program to get info on something I am using windows for. But I never
run Windows just so I can run a Dos program. Why bother?
>
>The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like to see
>_ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the entire patch list
>page from the back of the magazine, and put all the current patches on the
>CD-ROM.
>
>THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
On this point I will agree with you 100%
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Old Salt
>Hmmm....think its you Robert who _still_ doesnt get it! Folks who
>thought that demo was a rip due to the fact they paid extra for that
>"free test"CD demo. Not some future fanstasy nit picks of _real_ CD demos
>by CGW that might "well be worth the extra dollar"
>
Yes, thanks for bring it up. My bitch about the $1 was for the Windows 95
CD only!!!! My bitch about about Sept issue was the need to run Windows
just to read text files that tells me everything should be done from DOS.
It was not a demo, just a damn menu. That I needed windows to use.
Robert v Luthardt jr
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Hi..thanks but no thanks to your own personal need to nit pick at every
stupid little thing that you love about CGW that advances your own pathetic
insecurities. Fact is, that FREE "test CD" was a rip off in the present, and
has zippo to do with your future fantasies
of their CD's. Love and Kisses
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Hollywood taught us that in space, nobody can hear you scream.
Jaybird taught me that in email, nobody can hear you act like a moron.
Your many childish email "taunts" are not appreciated, Levine.
And they will _not_ frighten me away from usenet.
I'm a grown up, you see.
chris
newstand and pick up a current copy of PC Gamer (CD edition). They've been CD
for awhile now and everything works great! FYI, I picked up the Sept. issue
of CGW for the Magic Carpet 2 demo (it also had High Octane - and that's ALL
it had!). 1 week later I get my Oct. issue of PC Gamer in the mail and on the
CD it had:
* Magic Carpet 2
* Hi-Octane
* Primal Rage
* Entomorph
* Powerhouse
* FX Fighter
* Need for Speed
* Skyborg
* Apache Longbow
* Prisoner of Ice
* Witchaven
* Pinball Illusions
* Ultimate Football '95
...it also had AOL software (woohoo), Imagination, genie and dwango stuff
on it. But I thought the games included with the CD were quite impressive.
Check 'em out! Itsa good mag. (the reviews are great, too....but that's a
whole nuther topic...)
Chris
Jay...@en.com
>Hollywood taught us that in space, nobody can hear you scream.
>Jaybird taught me that in email, nobody can hear you act like a moron.
>Your many childish email "taunts" are not appreciated, Levine.
>And they will _not_ frighten me away from usenet.
>I'm a grown up, you see.
Ah, lets just see who is the child...recieved an e-mail
from you:
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:13:43 -0400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic
From: luth...@clark.net (Robert v Luthardt jr)
To: Jay...@en.com
Subject: Re: CGW and CD-ROM's
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>....For those of you who _still_ don't get it, (or still have a personal
>need to nit-pick at every stupid little thing to advance your own, pathetic
>insecurities)...
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So you see Robbie, my similar e-mail reply to you was to tell YOU
Robert Luthardt, that in e-mail or public, everybody can hear you as
a moron. You childish e-mail taunts to me are not appreciated
either, Luthardt. Nor frighten me from the Usenet. If you dont
like getting childish e-mail, then dont send it in the first place!
Robert v Luthardt jr
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It's called a RECIEPT you internet inept prodigy graduate.
In some circles, it's considered polite to reciept any followups to the
mailbox of the original author, thus saving them the need to glean the
newsgroup to read any replies/responses to thier own articles.
In case you've not noticed, there was not reciept in your mailbox for this
post.
It's obvious they confuse the hell out of you. I don't want the Internet to
become so difficult for a codger like yourself to keep track of, that you drop
offline, and return to your daily game of checkers at the local barber shop as
your only means of social interaction.
The Child,
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Jay...@en.com
>It's called a RECIEPT you internet inept prodigy graduate.
>In some circles, it's considered polite to reciept any followups to the
>mailbox of the original author, thus saving them the need to glean the
>newsgroup to read any replies/responses to thier own articles.
>In case you've not noticed, there was not reciept in your mailbox for this
>post.
>It's obvious they confuse the hell out of you. I don't want the Internet to
>become so difficult for a codger like yourself to keep track of, that you
>dropoffline, and return to your daily game of checkers at the local barber
>shop as your only means of social interaction.
>The Child,
>Robert v Luthardt jr http://www.total.loser
Who is inept? You posted a personal attack to me on this Newsgroup
CGW CD ROM thread and then at the same tine had the same low class of
e-mailing me the same note! As I said before, Child, you dont like
receiving the same, now do you?...wah, wah, wah, wah!
Its you who is confused and needs to return to your daily game
of hanging cheap wallpaper to support your low class Intenet
posting habit and low class social interaction.
A CGW CD R.I.P. to you, as I now return you to your sandbox.
Robert Trifts
>The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like to see
>_ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the entire patch list
>page from the back of the magazine, and put all the current patches on the
>CD-ROM.
>THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
Agreed. The entire patch file ought to be on the disc, monthly.
This would be of inestimable value to CGW's readers.
.Robert
Buddy Knight
rtr...@idirect.com says...
>
>luth...@clark.net (Robert v Luthardt jr) wrote:
>
>>The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like to see
>>_ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the entire patch
list
>>page from the back of the magazine, and put all the current patches on the
>>CD-ROM.
>
>>THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
>
>Agreed. The entire patch file ought to be on the disc, monthly.
>
Or, you can d/l patches from the CGW web site. Go to
Regards,
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Paveway Programs "One Bomb - One Target"
Texas Instruments
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haw...@texoma.com (H)
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>Buddy Knight (fm...@msg.ti.com) wrote:
>: In article <ragnaroek1995Se...@news2.compulink.com>,
>: rtr...@idirect.com says...
>: >
>: >luth...@clark.net (Robert v Luthardt jr) wrote:
>: >
>: >>The far-away BEST feature was the inclusion of the patches. I'd like
>: >>to see _ALL_ of them included, and not just a select few. Take the
>: >>entire patch : list page from the back of the magazine, and put all
>: >>the current patches on the CD-ROM.
>: >
>: >>THAT would be a service WELL WORTH THE EXTRA DOLLAR!
>: >
>: >Agreed. The entire patch file ought to be on the disc, monthly.
>: >
>: Or, you can d/l patches from the CGW web site. Go to
>
>Or you could just subscribe to PC Gamer and get all the latest demos and
>patches off of their CD (that they have been running for quite some time
>now).
>--
> <d...@rahul.net>
I would if Computer Gaming World were not so much better.
Clay Cahill
>Or, you can d/l patches from the CGW web site. Go to
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/~gaming/
NO, you can't. At least not all of them. Last I checked, they had
pointers to ftp sites (not checked in couple of months, could be
different now). I'd like to see them keep them at zdnet.com so that I
would always know where to go and not have to deal with access denied
messages.
Clay-
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