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Michael Roper

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Are cartographers always supposed to reveal the entire map? In my
experience, on perhaps 50% of maps that contain cartographers, they leave
odd-shaped blotches of fog scattered throughout--especially underground. On
occasion, these areas can be quite large. This has nothing to do with
fog-producing objects. Anyone else seen this? Is it a bug?

Michael Roper
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Dick Small

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Michael Roper wrote in message <7vcufu$gvu$1...@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net>...


I think they uncover either land or water, not both... unless anyone knows
different?


Scott Shupe

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Michael Roper wrote:
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> Are cartographers always supposed to reveal the entire map? In my
> experience, on perhaps 50% of maps that contain cartographers, they leave
> odd-shaped blotches of fog scattered throughout--especially underground. On
> occasion, these areas can be quite large. This has nothing to do with
> fog-producing objects. Anyone else seen this? Is it a bug?

When underground, the cartographers only reveal "underground" terrain -
i.e. if it's water, grass, snow, etc. terrain, the cartographer won't
reveal it. I don't know if this is a bug or not.

Above ground, water terrain isn't revealed by a cartographer on land.

Water terrain is only revealed by the water cartographers, above or
below ground.

Scott


Michael Roper

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Scott Shupe writes:
> When underground, the cartographers only reveal "underground"
> terrain - i.e. if it's water, grass, snow, etc. terrain, the cartographer
> won't reveal it. I don't know if this is a bug or not.

Ah, perhaps that's it. I understand the difference between the water and
land cartographers but the terrain differences for the land cartographers
may explain what I've been seeing. I have used a surface cartographer and
had the underground partially exposed. I don't recall if it exposed terrain
normally associated with the surface though.

Michael Roper
mich...@encraft.com

George Ruof

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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"Michael Roper" <bo...@encraft.com> wrote:

The water cartographer reveals all water terrain tiles.

The normal cartographer reveals all normal terrain tiles. These would
be anything except water and underground.

The underground cartographer reveals all underground terrain tiles.
Underground is a specific tile type, not just the second level of the
map.

At the time I implemented it I was told that nobody would use anything
but underground tiles underground. I suppose it could be a bit more
selective in what it reveals depending on the map level, but then what
should happen if someone puts a patch of grass underground with a
cartographer on it?

--
George Ruof gr...@pacificnet.net
Senior Programmer New World Computing

I am NOT speaking for New World Computing or the 3DO company.

Bruno Wolff III

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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From article <AA0093955D7D4605.F9EA786D...@lp.airnews.net>, by gr...@pacificnet.net (George Ruof):

>
> At the time I implemented it I was told that nobody would use anything
> but underground tiles underground. I suppose it could be a bit more
> selective in what it reveals depending on the map level, but then what
> should happen if someone puts a patch of grass underground with a
> cartographer on it?

As long as people know how it is supposed to work, I don't think it is a big
deal. The way it is now seems to allow for some cute ways of using
cartographers.

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