[CIV2] Can I declare war?
Carsten Engelmann
Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
bad reputation when I have currently peace?
-Carsten
Joel Adams
In article <1996Apr30....@yacc.central.de>, Carsten Engelmann
<en...@yacc.central.de> writes
>Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
>bad reputation when I have currently peace?
>
>-Carsten
I think the damage to your reputation is less if you declare war when
asked to by another civilisation.
--
Joel Adams
DuaneVP
I'm not entirely sure. Obviously it's better if you can get your
potential enemies to attack first when you are fully prepared to go to
war. If you want to beat up on an ally you need to send an emmisary (via
Foreign minister window) and then tell them you want to cancel the treaty.
You'll still be at peace but the diplomatic consequences will be far
less. If it's just any old computer civ you want to stomp I think that if
you are unable to get them to attack you your only viable option is to
commit an act of war.
Note that an act of war need not be strictly military. E.g., send a
diplomat or spy into an enemy city to steal some technology or commit a
little tactical sabotage. This is an act which can and should lead to war
and may be less diplomatically damaging than cannon shots over the city
walls. Maybe...
You might try moving a unit with more than 1 square of movement in,
and then back out of his city radius. Or maybe moving in on one turn and
then moving back out on the next. This should be something the computer
picks up on and will get it "irritated" with you.
Downtime
aka Duane VanderPol
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers" - Thomas
Watson, IBM Chairman, 1943
Richard Sorochak
>Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
>bad reputation when I have currently peace?
>
>-Carsten
>
Not that I know of. The best way to go to war is to goad the other
nation into attacking you (if you're at peace with him). If you're
not at peace already, then of course, there's no problem.
Rich
Richard Arnesen
Carsten Engelmann (en...@yacc.central.de) wrote:
: Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
: bad reputation when I have currently peace?
Well of course the only REAL way is to trick the other civ to attack you...
The easiest way to do this is just pile units up near their cities and
provoke them
: -Carsten
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mr_pither
>Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
>bad reputation when I have currently peace?
>
>-Carsten
>
Try this: keep sending emisaries to the civ you want to go to war
with, refuse to trade anything from them and keep demand tribute for
your patience. Every time you don't trade with them they get a madder
at you (i think). anyways, after a turn or two, depending on what the
civ thought of you to begin with, they will get sick of you demanding
tribute and delcare war against you.
mr_pither
Preston Landers
In article <3187ed1a...@news.jagunet.com>, pit...@monty.com
(mr_pither) wrote:
>Try this: keep sending emisaries to the civ you want to go to war
>with, refuse to trade anything from them and keep demand tribute for
>your patience. Every time you don't trade with them they get a madder
>at you (i think). anyways, after a turn or two, depending on what the
>civ thought of you to begin with, they will get sick of you demanding
>tribute and delcare war against you.
This doesn't work very well against many civs, especially the Babylonians
and perhaps the Indians. They will simple refuse to talk to you and
ignore you. Of course, just looking at the Greeks or Russians the wrong
way is cause for a thousand year war...
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/Preston Landers plan...@mail.utexas.edu\
\"Oh, frabjous day. Calloh! Callay!" /
Lee Cole
>Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
>bad reputation when I have currently peace?
>
>-Carsten
>
Not that I know of. The best way to go to war is to goad the other
nation into attacking you (if you're at peace with him). If you're
not at peace already, then of course, there's no problem.
Rich <<
I don't believe your reputation suffers if you never agree to remain at
peace
and/or honor each other borders. I often meet with foreign diplomats
and
exchange techs, maps, etc. but refuse to establish peace. Later when I
or
they attack, I don't believe either of our reputations suffer.
Lee Cole
Ken Fishkin
Carsten Engelmann wrote:
>
> Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
> bad reputation when I have currently peace?
>
> -Carsten
I'm not sure, but I think if you "bully" them into declaring war on you,
by demanding they remove troops from your territory, demanding tribute,
and so forth, then their reputation, not yours, suffers.
--
Ken Fishkin fis...@acm.org
http://www.parc.xerox.com/fishkin
Jeffrey Hamilton
Carsten Engelmann (en...@yacc.central.de) wrote:
: Is there a way to actively declare war without getting
: bad reputation when I have currently peace?
:
: -Carsten
:
heh, not a chance. But when I play, I usually get ahead quickly and get
everyone gunning for me anyway, so who cares about reputation.
Defend your civ well and dont worry bout it. If you can take down an
empire quickly, do it and get it over with
Don Melsom
In article <4mdei8$8...@clarknet.clark.net>, kor...@clark.net (Jeffrey
Hamilton) writes:
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> References: <1996Apr30....@yacc.central.de>
> Posted: 3 May 1996 17:08:24 GMT
>
> Org. : Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA
YES! You can declare war without getting a bad reputation, *AND* you can
do it as a Republic or Democracy!
Sign an alliance with a civ already at war with the one you want to pound.
Whenever they talk to you, or you talk to them (hehehe), they will ask you
to abide by your alliance if you are not at war with their enemy. (So even
though the darned pacifist senators will sign peace treaties behind your
back you can get even by talking to your ally. And it apparently has zero
effect on your reputation.
The more powerful the other civs are, the less likely they will want to
make or keep strategic alliances -- but the weaker they are the more likely
they'll sign up. Same goes when you want to activate your alliance, though
somewhat in reverse -- I think the tougher you and your ally are the more
it will cost you to activate your alliance, also the tougher your enemy is.
But the whole point is to be able, as a democracy, to sustain a war with a
hated enemy so you just need to maintain alliances with your enemy's
enemies.
If you're tough who cares if your ally fight? I mean, really, why have to
divide the spoils of war? :-)
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don_m...@mindlink.bc.ca (Don Melsom)