JA2: Drassen Mine $$$ question.
DavidBilek
Tons o' Guns and SCI-FI from Normal and Realistic. I captured
Drassen on Day 2 as per my last game... but now, even with loyalty
at 100% the mine is only producing $4,800 per day! In my first game
it was $8,800 or so! Does this have something to do with the settings
changes? I can't afford any decent mercs on 28,000 a week... now I
almost wish I'd kept playing my last game. I had Scope and Ice...
now I'm stuck with Ira as a combat merc ;x
-David
Gary White
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Scott Rutter
wrote:
> I just restarted the game to change the preference settings to
>Tons o' Guns and SCI-FI from Normal and Realistic. I captured
>Drassen on Day 2 as per my last game... but now, even with loyalty
>at 100% the mine is only producing $4,800 per day! In my first game
>it was $8,800 or so! Does this have something to do with the settings
>changes? I can't afford any decent mercs on 28,000 a week... now I
>almost wish I'd kept playing my last game. I had Scope and Ice...
>now I'm stuck with Ira as a combat merc ;x
>
>-David
You get some random change in the mine output. It could be without
the bugs the mine never gets invaded and the production never stops.
On Sci-Fi level I've gotten 11,800 a day from Drassan. My second game
it's more like 8,800.
Scott Rutter
Destroy
??!!! Only?! How the hell are you getting that figure? I am on day 11 and
get $2300 a day from the Drassen mine. Realistic, Easy, Normal guns. I'm
trying to live on $9k a week and your complaining about $28k?
I have gone through both levels in the mine. Did I miss something that I'm
getting such a low output of money?
Its the only mine I have. Perhaps you have another mine putting out money
with that figure?
I'd love to have more money to buy better mercs but cant afford crap with
this income.
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> I just restarted the game to change the preference settings to
>Tons o' Guns and SCI-FI from Normal and Realistic. I captured
>Drassen on Day 2 as per my last game... but now, even with loyalty
>at 100% the mine is only producing $4,800 per day! In my first game
>it was $8,800 or so! Does this have something to do with the settings
>changes? I can't afford any decent mercs on 28,000 a week... now I
>almost wish I'd kept playing my last game. I had Scope and Ice...
>now I'm stuck with Ira as a combat merc ;x
I had it jump to 10,000 from 4,000 once out of the blue. I've never
been called to any mines for trouble and I play with the scifi
setting.
I think this may be random.
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Brian C Robinson
: I have gone through both levels in the mine. Did I miss something that I'm
: getting such a low output of money?
You can go in the mine in realistic? I waved my cursor over it
but nothing changed so I figured you couldn't go in there. Is there
anything worth checking out if you're on realistic?
BTW, I'm playing Easy/Realistic and the Drassen mine puts out 10k +/- 2k
each day.
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>Destroy (d...@duh.com) spewed forth:
>: I have gone through both levels in the mine. Did I miss something that I'm
>: getting such a low output of money?
>:
> You can go in the mine in realistic? I waved my cursor over it
>but nothing changed so I figured you couldn't go in there. Is there
>anything worth checking out if you're on realistic?]
Yeah, I found a medkit,and some silver nuggets worth about $1,000.
Grifman
Pat Garret
>> % the mine is only producing $4,800 per day!
>
>??!!! Only?! How the hell are you getting that figure? I am on day 11 and
>get $2300 a day from the Drassen mine. Realistic, Easy, Normal guns. I'm
>trying to live on $9k a week and your complaining about $28k?
>
>I have gone through both levels in the mine. Did I miss something that I'm
>getting such a low output of money?
>
>Its the only mine I have. Perhaps you have another mine putting out money
>with that figure?
>
>I'd love to have more money to buy better mercs but cant afford crap with
>this income.
>
Uh well, I got 8.8K each day and now I can afford 11 mercs of average
level... I'm on day 11 but i conquered the mine on the third day and
started at 8.8k....
Destroy
>
> You can go in the mine in realistic? Is there
> anything worth checking out if you're on realistic?
Yes, there are some items in the mine.
>
>
> BTW, I'm playing Easy/Realistic and the Drassen mine puts out 10k +/- 2k
> each day.
Now this really bugs me! Why am I only getting $2500 a day from the Drassen mine?
What day are you on? When I initially got the mine it was only giving me about $1700
a day. Its getting tough money wise here. Is this a bug of some sort?
Destroy
> I had it jump to 10,000 from 4,000 once out of the blue. I've never
> been called to any mines for trouble and I play with the scifi
> setting.
Out of the blue? You mean water nearby? I'm only getting $2500 a day from
Drassen mine on day 11.
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Have you conquered all of Drassan? What are you doing around the
town?
Tell you what happened to me. I took all of Drassen and was getting
$7k per day and training militia, but taking no offensive action.
Morale/loyalty started dropping, and along with that my income. I
could hardly afford my mercs.
So I reloaded - and took a more offensive stance. I continued
training militia but sent out parties to attack enemy units nearby -
though I wasn't ready to attack another town yet. My loyalty stayed
high as long as I took action. Perhaps that is it.
Or, have you contacted the priest in Drassen to begin the food
shipments? The people will tell you they are hungry and I think you
need to begin the food shipments to maintain loyalty.
Hope this helps.
Grifman
Brian C Robinson
: Yes, there are some items in the mine.
:
Yeah, $1500 in cash and two TNTs, and a detonator. I'm sad I
didn't go in there before.
: > BTW, I'm playing Easy/Realistic and the Drassen mine puts out 10k +/- 2k
: > each day.
: Now this really bugs me! Why am I only getting $2500 a day from the
: Drassen mine? What day are you on? When I initially got the mine it was
: only giving me about $1700 a day. Its getting tough money wise here. Is
: this a bug of some sort?
:
I can't tell you why you're not getting much from the
mine, although I imagine if the town's loyalty is under 100%, they will
give you less money. I'm on day 13 or so, and the mine has been steadily
producing that kind of money for me since day 1 when I captured it.
DavidBilek
>Out of the blue? You mean water nearby?
>I'm only getting $2500 a day from
>Drassen mine on day 11.
I don't know what is up with Drassen. I posted the initial
message in this thread... captured Drassen on Day 2, and
had its loyalty at 100% and it put out 4800/day as compared
to 8800/day in my last game on Realistic. Then on like day
18, I got a message that the mine was going to run out soon
and its production jumped to 8800/day for 3 days. Now its
almost nothing. ;(
And I never did run across any "bugs" in the mine.
-David Bilek
Eric Ashcroft aka The Ancient One
as legend foretold:
you all should look at the mine percentage, it愀 not the loyalty of
the town... there is a percentage for each mine.... when you start
mining in that mine, you get pretty little money.... over time the
production improves up to 100%...
IIRC of course heheh
Eric Ashcroft aka The Ancient One
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>-David Bilek
Well, here are some tips on mining income. At the start of a
new game 50 points (normal; easy will get more, hard will get
less overall points) will be distributed on the five mines. The
range goes from 6 points to 14 points for each mine (The exact
values may be a little off, but i think, this is the way it works.).
The distributed points are then multiplied with the base income
for each mine (400$ (Chitzena), 800$ (Drassen), 1200$ (Alma and
Cambria), 1600$ (Grumm)) to give you the maximum income of
a mine. So the maximum income for the Drassen mine will range
from 4800$ to 11200$ per day.
To get the actual income you have to multiply max. income with
town control and loyalty. So if you control 2 sectors of Drassen
(66% town control) and have a loyalty of 45%, while the mine has
a max. income of 8000$/day, your actual income will be:
8000$/day x .66 x .45 = 2376$/day
The daily income will be paid in four shares at 9.00, 12.00, 15.00
and 18.00.
You can check the maximum income of all mines at the start of
a game. Just click on the mine (?) tab in the map screen and then
right click on the mine sector itself. An information window should
pop up and tell you, among other things, the max. income of the
mine (This is from memory, so if it doesn't work, try similar things).
About two weeks into the game, one of the mines may run out of
ore. A miner will pop up and tell you about it. The income of the
mine will be increased significantly and then drop to zero during
the next four or five days. AFAIK this will only happen to one mine
and in my first game it never happened to me at all in 70 days.
If you're playing scifi mode, you will eventually get the message
that the Drassen mine is overun by bugs. The income will drop to
zero until you clear the mine. To do this, enter the mine and
proceed to the second screen. You should notice a hole in the
ground. Enter it and go down further, killing all the bugs. If the new
levels are empty, then you have encountered a (computer) bug.
This happened to me the first time i played scifi mode. I went to the
final room without meeting any bugs. But when i went back one
room, all the bugs were suddenly there. So try this, if it happens
to you.
AFAIK the bugs will always appear in the Drassen mine first.
There is a small bug, if the Drassen mine has run out of ore.
If this has happened, you won't be notified by the miner about
the bug plague. But soon after the start of the bug plague, city
sectors of Drassen are attacked by bugs. In order to end the
attacks you have to clear the mine and kill the bug queen.
Hope this helps,
Peter
Gary
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> AFAIK the bugs will always appear in the Drassen mine first.
>There is a small bug, if the Drassen mine has run out of ore.
>If this has happened, you won't be notified by the miner about
>the bug plague. But soon after the start of the bug plague, city
>sectors of Drassen are attacked by bugs. In order to end the
>attacks you have to clear the mine and kill the bug queen.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>Peter
>
Actually, I had the bugs show up in Grumm. This was near end game
(about turn 60), after Dressen had run out. No bugs ever showed up in
Dressen, so this must be random as well. Coincidentally, it was the
most recent mine I had captured, not sure if that is a factor
Cheers.
Gary
