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Outpost 1.5: Trucking and mining

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Planter of magic beans

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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I seem to be having difficulty getting my trucks to move resources from
the mines to the smelter. It works alright for the first hundred turns,
but then my storage tanks just seem to empty and although I have 25
active mines, nothing ever seems to get to the tanks for use by my
colony. Does anyone know why this might be? Am I doing something wrong?

Also, is it more efficient to mine as far down as one can go immediately,
or to wait until one level has exhausted itself before proceeding further?

And yes, I'm still playing the game! I decided to give it a second chance
now that they actually are giving me what they advertised on the box, not
to mention an entirely new manual with actually useful instructions.


a...@tiac.net

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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trucks wear out

keep building them

check your mined resources at the mine if its at 500 units the mine
shuts down and you need more trucks moving

robot commands ... you NEVER have enough

make sure your warehouses are not full because your factories will
back up and shut down

always always always move raw ores to smelters make sure you have
enough they look like they only produce 100 units per turn


later

aid

a...@tiac.net

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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PS 1,5 is available on sierras web page for free
at www.sierra.com

why pay for it

broyles l

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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a...@tiac.net wrote:
: PS 1,5 is available on sierras web page for free
: at www.sierra.com

: why pay for it

Got the patch, unzipped it, and played the new version.

Now I find that its slower than ever. I have a 486DX2-66 8RAM,
is this the reason why its so slow other than that outpost is
a windows-based game? Any remedies to this?

After the 1.5 patch, it has really become unplayable whereas
before it was playbable but w/ tons of bugs in it. *sigh*
You just can't win. :(

-broyles
(And Sierra wonders why people like me hasnt bought any more
of their "QUEST" series games)


Rick Jones

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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mham...@maestro.maestro.com (Planter of magic beans) wrote:

>I seem to be having difficulty getting my trucks to move resources from
>the mines to the smelter. It works alright for the first hundred turns,
>but then my storage tanks just seem to empty and although I have 25
>active mines, nothing ever seems to get to the tanks for use by my
>colony. Does anyone know why this might be? Am I doing something wrong?
>
>Also, is it more efficient to mine as far down as one can go immediately,
>or to wait until one level has exhausted itself before proceeding further?
>
>And yes, I'm still playing the game! I decided to give it a second chance
>now that they actually are giving me what they advertised on the box, not
>to mention an entirely new manual with actually useful instructions.
>

By right-clicking on a mine, a menu appears allowing you to assign
routes to trucks (and trucks to mines). NOTE YOU MUST ASSIGN TRUCKS.
They wear out eventually. You must click on the waypoints the truck(s)
will follow to the smelter.

Check your storage tanks to see if they are full. Also check your
smelter to see if it is full. If so, the mine won't bother trucking,
and if IT is full, it shuts down.

HINT: Unload useless ores on the Rebel base via trade. Try to get MPG.


George Vlad

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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If anyone has a latter version of this game for sale i want it!

Dont make it too expensive though since i've heard a lot of bad stuff
about the game, and i'm not interested in spending a lot of money for
a possible utter disappointment.

well...
here's my email : gb...@cornell.edu

Thanx
Geworge

Tim Drozinski

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Feb 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/20/96
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In article <4gcsom$4...@hole.sdsu.edu> zer...@rohan.sdsu.edu (broyles l) writes:
>a...@tiac.net wrote:
>: PS 1,5 is available on sierras web page for free
>: at www.sierra.com
>
>: why pay for it
>
Why DOWNLOAD it?

>Got the patch, unzipped it, and played the new version.
>

Masochist, eh?

>Now I find that its slower than ever. I have a 486DX2-66 8RAM,
>is this the reason why its so slow other than that outpost is
>a windows-based game? Any remedies to this?
>

Delete it from your hard drive and accept it as a hard-luck lesson
if you bought the original.

>After the 1.5 patch, it has really become unplayable whereas
>before it was playbable but w/ tons of bugs in it. *sigh*
>You just can't win. :(

No, but you can always buy a GOOD game. From a reputable company
that includes the features that are described ON THE BOX in the
enclosed game. Let's face it, Sierra dropped the ball on Outpost
and would have been better off having disavowed ITS existence, rather
than try to hem and haw and make excuses, back-pedal some more, then
finally admit that it was "missing a few minor parts."

Colony-building micro-management sims are a dime a dozen, and many of
them are good. Quite a few will even run in Windows/Win95.

>(And Sierra wonders why people like me hasnt bought any more
> of their "QUEST" series games)

Their QUEST lines are usually solid, but who really wants to play that
style of game after they've passed the age of 6? Even Phantasmagoria,
which we finished (all seven CDs of it) in 2 days (not even intense
sessions, probably about 10 hours total), is still the same basic game
as the first King's Quest I played on my PCjr..... It just shows you
where Sierra's bread and butter is. The quest games work, and have few
problems. Other games they produce are buggy and problematic. Where
do you think they budget the majority of their resources? Sierra should
stick to what they know (although the reason they expanded was undoubtedly
because the Quest series were slowly losing ground to other styles of games.

Droz


Tim Drozinski t...@db.erau.edu tpdr...@escmail.orl.mmc.com
'95 Nitro Neon Sport Sedan http://erau.db.erau.edu/~tjd/


Ow Eng Tiong

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Feb 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/22/96
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Hi,
Can anyone tell me what the automaic trucking option at the start
of a new game is used for. How do I transport things through the
monorail? Do I assisgn trucks to carry them?

Ow Eng Tiong
pir...@singnet.com.sg

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Stephane Picard

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Feb 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/24/96
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George Vlad <gb...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>If anyone has a latter version of this game for sale i want it!
>
>Dont make it too expensive though since i've heard a lot of bad stuff
>about the game, and i'm not interested in spending a lot of money for
>a possible utter disappointment.
^^^^^^^^^

Someone offered me 50$ to give me his copy of Outpost...
I refused, of course!

I think it's the first time since Outpost came out that someone said
that Outpost might be an utter disapointment.

Oh, well...
Outpost has certainly become a legend.


Stephane Picard

Ken Paquette

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Mar 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/2/96
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hn3...@RS1-HRZ.uni-duisburg.de (Thomas Schuering) wrote:

>> we really need the 2.0 upgrade

>Maybe a version where one can understand what happens and why it does.
>Tell me if I'm wrong, but the gameplay is quite non-transparent.

You are correct. I'm still figuring out what elements of the game can
actually be seen (somewhat) but have no effect whatsoever. Example:
I'm warned a meteor is about to strike, don't evacuate, and next turn
there's no damage, no dead people, no nothing.

>But maybe in the meantime there is a good documentation available ?

I know there's 2 strategy guides out for this, and the one Sierra
produced is about 2x as expensive as the other, which is just as good
at discussing the game dynamics. Sierra's goes of on history of
spaceflight and future plans and all other sorts of loosely-related
stuff. Interesting reading, though.

>Thomas

>PS: Any comment is welcome, but please reply by e-mail.
> Just because I'm in hospital for the next week B-(
YUCK!

Get well!

Ken


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