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Jonah Falcon

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Jan 28, 2002, 6:59:31 PM1/28/02
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Anyone else having problems when they start a tournament with 13+ holes?

Jonah Falcon


Dweeb

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Jan 28, 2002, 7:41:12 PM1/28/02
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Jonah Falcon wrote in message ...

>Anyone else having problems when they start a tournament with 13+ holes?

Apparently the bug is when the tourney is worth more than $500,000. This is
just about a showstopper.


Joe62

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Jan 28, 2002, 8:13:39 PM1/28/02
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:59:31 -0500, "Jonah Falcon"
<jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Anyone else having problems when they start a tournament with 13+ holes?

Yup. Any $500,000+ tournement crashes the game. Nice QA there, eh?

Not a peep out of EA/Firaxis on this issue either. The game is
unplayable, and they can't even pay us the courtesy of an update or
time-estimate for a fix. Not too impressive.

Chris Gomez

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Jan 28, 2002, 10:49:56 PM1/28/02
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I have reached this bug too. I suggest we all just return the game. This
is just like Black and White

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John Smith(2)

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:30:19 AM1/29/02
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What are you going to do, return the game then buy it again when the patch
is out? For one bug?

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Joe62

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:41:51 AM1/29/02
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"John Smith\(2\)" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>What are you going to do, return the game then buy it again when the patch
>is out? For one bug?

It's not unreasonable - the game is unplayable. That one bug is a
showstopper. It's no different than if the game just wouldn't install
- the game can't be played. Pretty lame for Firaxis/EA to not at least
make an announcement about the situation and patch plans today.

Joe

JZ Temple

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Jan 29, 2002, 6:02:44 AM1/29/02
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It's not a showstopper. Once you have reached the point where you are
being offered half-million Simoleon tournaments you can make more
money just in normal green fees than in the tournament prize money,
remembering that during a tournament, you still pay salaries, while
none of the golfers pay green fees. At the moderate difficulty setting
I've completed one 18 hole course already and am up to 16 holes on the
next one. Also, if you want to play in a tournament at this point you
can save your course as a championship course and play in that mode.
And you can always build in sandbox mode, if you wish.

There will no doubt be a patch in a few days, but till then, there are
plenty of ways to work around it.

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Gary Anderson

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:15:36 PM1/29/02
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Joe62 wrote:
>
> "John Smith\(2\)" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >What are you going to do, return the game then buy it again when the patch
> >is out? For one bug?
>
> It's not unreasonable - the game is unplayable. That one bug is a
> showstopper. It's no different than if the game just wouldn't install
> - the game can't be played.

Odd. I've been playing it for several days now.

Joe62

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Jan 29, 2002, 12:59:32 PM1/29/02
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On 29 Jan 2002 03:02:44 -0800, jzte...@netscape.net (JZ Temple)
wrote:

>It's not a showstopper.

If it's not for you, that's great. The tourneys are a critical feature
to me - the game is gathering dust until the patch is released.

Pembleton

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Jan 29, 2002, 1:17:43 PM1/29/02
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On 29 Jan 2002 03:02:44 -0800, jzte...@netscape.net (JZ Temple)
wrote:

>There will no doubt be a patch in a few days, but till then, there are


>plenty of ways to work around it.
>

You mean like the great speed that Firaxis patched Civ3? It took them
2 months to make the first patch and now it's been another 2 months
since then, and still no word that they're even working on the second
patch.

Of course Civ3 was published by Infogrames as opposed to EA and have
different programmers, but both are Sid Meier/Firaxis games, but it
seems they have kept to their policy of never even mentioning that
they are working on a patch.

Bishop

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Jan 29, 2002, 4:57:04 PM1/29/02
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:17:43 -0500, Pembleton
<pembl...@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

>
>You mean like the great speed that Firaxis patched Civ3? It took them
>2 months to make the first patch and now it's been another 2 months
>since then, and still no word that they're even working on the second
>patch.
>
>Of course Civ3 was published by Infogrames as opposed to EA and have
>different programmers, but both are Sid Meier/Firaxis games, but it
>seems they have kept to their policy of never even mentioning that
>they are working on a patch.

Read the $500K bug fix thread.

Chris Gomez

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Jan 29, 2002, 9:25:16 PM1/29/02
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Not buy it at all. I had fun, and it is a great game, but too often we
reward game publishers (Black & White) for releasing a beta copy and calling
it a finished game (Anarchy Online). We have to tell them we want finished
products.

Bugs are one thing, this is a showstopper.

Why play the game if I can't make large courses and hold tournaments on
them?

Chris Gomez

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Chris Gomez

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Jan 29, 2002, 9:27:21 PM1/29/02
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Just start a tournament worth more than $500k in standard mode... boom!

Also, what's this about your golfer being forced to retire at 2050? That's
really lame. I enjoy watching the golfers, I enjoy making money. Sandbox
mode is fine and good and fun. So is championship mode. Standard mode is
horribly broken. This 2050 issue means I can't start a standard game, make
some cash, and build course after course with the money I've earned.

Chris Gomez

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Geoff Black

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Jan 29, 2002, 10:09:53 PM1/29/02
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"Joe62" <jmcgin...@radicalREALLYNOSPAM.ca> wrote

Yep. Not a peep, like no posts telling us it is fixed or anything.

Geoffrey


atholbrose

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Jan 29, 2002, 10:14:28 PM1/29/02
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"Chris Gomez" <nos...@spam.com> wrote in
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> Also, what's this about your golfer being forced to retire at 2050?
> That's really lame. I enjoy watching the golfers, I enjoy making
> money. Sandbox mode is fine and good and fun. So is championship
> mode. Standard mode is horribly broken. This 2050 issue means I
> can't start a standard game, make some cash, and build course after
> course with the money I've earned.

Well, now, that at least makes sense ... seeing as the backstory for the
game says that in your lifetime you're trying to create a golf empire and
achieve the 20 goals you've set for yourself. Not that those are actually
enforced by the game, mind.

I think that's why the $500K tournament bug bugs me ... I set the goal for
myself of building a great self-sustaining course in one area and meeting
all 20 goals. I've got the course -- sure, some golfers are leaving in
frustration, but I get more joiners than I get people leaving. I'm making
plenty of money, a lot of my holes are top 100 and top 18. I can still play
-- there are five more holes I can build, after all -- but until there's a
patch, I can't finish what I set out to do. I've had a great time for the
10 hours or so I've played the game -- this is, after all, my fifth course,
and on a harder difficulty level than I started on (I found it hard to
leave my easy mode game since I was making SO much money, and starting a
new course with $3,000,000 was FUN) -- but right now I'm playing other
things and hoping that there's a patch soon.

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