JA2 Merc creation, how to get 50 bonus points?
Olaf
accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on terravirtua,
but none of them worked for me.
I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it isnt
easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with 50
bonus points.
olaf
Olaf
I can get autoweps expert no problem, just never with 50 bonus points. I
wonder if it is even possible. Is the 50 bonus points triggered randomly,
or by some combination of answers?
olaf
Blackhawk <e...@topsoft.spam.me.not.com> wrote in message
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>
> To the best of my knowledge there is no 100% way to get what
> you want. To me it looks that entire personality part is broken
> in the IMP test. There was a bug in the German version of the game
> in this area and I'm not sure it is fixed in US version. The problem
> is that no matter how hard I try to avoid normal personality answers
> I seem to get it all the time.
>
> If you feel ok about 40 points here is the sequence:
>
> 2-2-2-1-2 5-4-2-1-1 1-4-1-1-4 1
>
> Problem here with Q2.2. Basically it means stealth, so you may get
> stealth/auto weapons from time to time. Options for Q2 are: 1-teaching,
> 2-stealth, 3-psycho, 4-friendly.
>
> BTW, here is a problem I was talking about:
>
> Q4.1 and Q12.4 are for auto weapons. All other answers are to avoid
> other traits.
>
>
> Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
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Mr.Happy (Sebastian Bauer)
second, you have to HURRY, it also depends on your answering-speed.
Olaf <ol...@texas.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
Blackhawk
To the best of my knowledge there is no 100% way to get what
you want. To me it looks that entire personality part is broken
in the IMP test. There was a bug in the German version of the game
in this area and I'm not sure it is fixed in US version. The problem
is that no matter how hard I try to avoid normal personality answers
I seem to get it all the time.
If you feel ok about 40 points here is the sequence:
2-2-2-1-2 5-4-2-1-1 1-4-1-1-4 1
Problem here with Q2.2. Basically it means stealth, so you may get
stealth/auto weapons from time to time. Options for Q2 are: 1-teaching,
2-stealth, 3-psycho, 4-friendly.
BTW, here is a problem I was talking about:
Q4.1 and Q12.4 are for auto weapons. All other answers are to avoid
other traits.
Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
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Twilight
>Does anyone know a concrete, repeatable way to get this? I got it once on
>accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on terravirtua,
>but none of them worked for me.
>
>I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it isnt
>easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with 50
>bonus points.
>
i gotten 50 points by answering the most cock sure merc i can get. and
have gotten all the varouis stats.Except stealth/night ops . Also my
invariably i get a psycho.
>
>
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Brian C Robinson
: To the best of my knowledge there is no 100% way to get what
: you want. To me it looks that entire personality part is broken
: in the IMP test. There was a bug in the German version of the game
: in this area and I'm not sure it is fixed in US version. The problem
: is that no matter how hard I try to avoid normal personality answers
: I seem to get it all the time.
:
I would guess that each time you do the quiz it is different. So,
lets say for each answer there is a tendency associated. For question one
maybe choice one tends twoards fighting, choice two tends towards
autoweapons, etc. If you choose one, some range of points will be added
to your fighting total, say 5-10. Each question goes on like this. Then
when you have completed the test, there will be some data like:
Fighting: 22
Throwing: 3
AutoWeapons: 14
...
Psycho: 42
At this point, it would go through the values and see the highest
ones, and those are the ones you get. But since it adds a random amount
for each question, you could answer the questions the same over and over
again and get random results. Of course, if you choose only stealth
answers, you will get stealth, but if you choose a variety of different
ones, you will have a higher chance of being surprised.
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Blackhawk
2-2-2-1-2 5-4-2-1-1 1-4-1-1-4 1
the meaningful answers are auto weapons 2 times, stealth, loner
and may be (not sure) some personality for Q3.2. I tried it several
times and get normal all the time. I expect to get loner in (at least)
~50% of cases.
There may be other factors I do not know about like how fast you
answer the questions but most probably it is just plain broken.
Brian C Robinson <bcr1...@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote in message
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Blackhawk
Friendly is just a personality.
You'll get 50 bonus for Loner, Pessimist, Arrogant or Unfriendly
personalities. Personality is supposed to be selected by random
from Normal and whatever you chose answering the questionaire.
Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
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> What does 'friendly' mean on Q2?
>
> I can get autoweps expert no problem, just never with 50 bonus points. I
> wonder if it is even possible. Is the 50 bonus points triggered randomly,
> or by some combination of answers?
>
> olaf
>
> Blackhawk <e...@topsoft.spam.me.not.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > To the best of my knowledge there is no 100% way to get what
> > you want. To me it looks that entire personality part is broken
> > in the IMP test. There was a bug in the German version of the game
> > in this area and I'm not sure it is fixed in US version. The problem
> > is that no matter how hard I try to avoid normal personality answers
> > I seem to get it all the time.
> >
> > If you feel ok about 40 points here is the sequence:
> >
> > 2-2-2-1-2 5-4-2-1-1 1-4-1-1-4 1
> >
> > Problem here with Q2.2. Basically it means stealth, so you may get
> > stealth/auto weapons from time to time. Options for Q2 are: 1-teaching,
> > 2-stealth, 3-psycho, 4-friendly.
> >
> > BTW, here is a problem I was talking about:
> >
> > Q4.1 and Q12.4 are for auto weapons. All other answers are to avoid
> > other traits.
> >
> >
> > Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
> > news:ww6q3.65938$AU3.1...@news2.giganews.com...
> > > Does anyone know a concrete, repeatable way to get this? I got it
once
> on
> > > accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on
> terravirtua,
> > > but none of them worked for me.
> > >
> > > I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it
> isnt
> > > easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with
50
> > > bonus points.
> > >
> > > olaf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Brian C Robinson
: The problem is with personality answers. Say with the sequence
: times and get normal all the time. I expect to get loner in (at least)
: ~50% of cases.
:
Well, I can imagine that the folks at Sir-Tech didn't want the
personality test degrade into just a list of numbers you could look up on
the web to get what you wanted. Why go to the trouble of making the test
when people are just going to ignore it and put in the answers that will
get them the munchkin abilities they want?
You say that it is broken; it is not. It doesn't work the way you
want it to. You don't call your car broken when it fails to fly, so you
shoudln't call this test broken.
Olaf
other words, you arent ever supposed to get 50 bonus points.
olaf
Blackhawk <e...@topsoft.spam.me.not.com> wrote in message
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Blackhawk
Yes, I do not know for sure how it is supposed to work and
I would be nice to hear comments from Sir-Tech guys.
What I know is there is unofficial patch for Russian version
of the game (1 byte change) which makes personality
selection more linear. Say if you select Loner personality
answer w/o patch I failed to get Loner personality 5 times
in a row with the patch one can get it with 50% probability.
That's why I'm saying most probably it is a bug.
Brian C Robinson <bcr1...@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> wrote in message
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Blackhawk
That does not explain the fact why it is so hard to get personality
other than normal/psycho.
Knew that smth was broken here ;)
Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
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Daniel Lemberg
based like someone suggested.
Iron Ace
>Does anyone know a concrete, repeatable way to get this? I got it once on
>accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on terravirtua,
>but none of them worked for me.
>
>I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it isnt
>easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with 50
>bonus points.
>
>olaf
Argh, Terra Virtua dead for good or what? I don't have an answer for your 50
points question really except that it seems like you get 50 points EVERY time
you have a non "normal" personality merc.
Ok, this is one you'll be kicking yourselves over because it's so obvious.
When you have answered the first question and are on the screen for the
second, you will see that the "prev" and "next" buttons are lit up. You can
*SKIP* questions to get your desired results. I can get Stealthy and Thorwing
*EVERY* time by JUST answering the questions that make sense to that type of
character and hitting "next" to avoid the irrelevent ones.
In order to get loner I picked a few (I forget which) sort of random questions
that didn't seem to have any combat relevant answers in them (e.g.: "Your
wife/girlfriend has been gone for 3 hours..." question.) One note is that the
first question DOES count, so for throwing I took Terry Bradshaw. Others may
want to choose "the President" to use a neutral answer...maybe you could try
Clint Eastwood as a gun slinging bad ass? I haven't tried to get anything but
stealthy and either ambidex or throwing, but I can get those easily so I
imagine auto weapons should be too.
For auto weapons expert I have a FEELING that you might have to choose answers
that will make a psycho merc because they are more burst fire minded. And
besides, a laser pointer seems to double my hit rate and range when using
burst and might be a safer obtion. Ice who has auto weapons still seems to
suck with burst mode at range like everyone else.
As for the 50 points thing again, I find that even if I answered the "extra"
questions once one way to get the points, doing the same again didn't work,
even if I answered the questions in about the same time frame. I just try a
certain combo or two and eventually I get it. Skipping most of the questions
makes this a lot less painful too.
Iron Ace out...
el...@my-deja.com
"Olaf" <ol...@texas.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know a concrete, repeatable way to get this? I got it
once on
> accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on
terravirtua,
> but none of them worked for me.
>
> I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it
isnt
> easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with
50
> bonus points.
>
> olaf
>
>
I haven't tried autoweapons yet, but here is a 50 point
stealthy(expert):
4215
4312
1343
4431
HTH!
Off to solo a few sectors..
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Olaf
whatever those were. Psycho isnt one of them apparently. The negative
traits were taken out of the game(I guess the playtesters didnt like them
much), but the extra points that were gained for garnering one, were not.
That will be fixed in the forthcoming patch. The 2 auto weps questions are
#4 and #12. Each skill has 2 answers on the questionnaire.
Skipping questions is a good idea, one that I havent tried. I finally got
my autowep expert, but restarted shortly thereafter to get a night
ops/autoweps guy. We shall see.
Enjoy
olaf
Iron Ace <iron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:19:50 -0500, "Olaf" <ol...@texas.net> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know a concrete, repeatable way to get this? I got it once
on
> >accident. Some people have posted various ways to get it on terravirtua,
> >but none of them worked for me.
> >
> >I am trying to get an autoweapons expert with 50 bonus points, and it
isnt
> >easy. The closest I have come is autoweapons and ambidextrous, with 50
> >bonus points.
> >
> >olaf
>
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>"Olaf" <ol...@texas.net> wrote:
>
>>The 50 points thing was orignially put it to counteract 'negative' traits,
>>whatever those were. Psycho isnt one of them apparently. The negative
>>traits were taken out of the game(I guess the playtesters didnt like them
>>much), but the extra points that were gained for garnering one, were not.
>>That will be fixed in the forthcoming patch. The 2 auto weps questions are
>>#4 and #12. Each skill has 2 answers on the questionnaire.
>>
>>Skipping questions is a good idea, one that I havent tried. I finally got
>>my autowep expert, but restarted shortly thereafter to get a night
>>ops/autoweps guy. We shall see.
>
>What's the sequence for expert auto-wep, but with a normal, friendly
>personality? I don't like psychos much..
This has been posted before, but for those who missed it, this is the
entire key . . .
Grifman
?Question 1
1: Martial Arts 2: None 3: Hand to Hand combat 4: Lock Picking
5:
Throwing 6: Optimism
Question 2
1: Teaching 2: None 3: Psycho Personality 4: Friendly
personality
Question 3
1: Lock Picking 2: None 3: Stealth 4: Normal personality
Question 4
1: Automatic Weapons 2: Friendly Personality 3: Normal
Personality 4:
None 5: None
Question 5
1: None 2: None 3: Aggressive Personality 4: None
Question 6
1: None 2: Night Ops 3: None 4: None 5: None
Question 7
1: Electronics 2: Knifing 3: Night Ops 4: None
Question 8
1: Ambidextrous 2: None 3: Optimistic Personality 4: Psycho
Personality
Question 9
The answers to this question have no effect on
skills/personality.
Question 10
The answers to this question have no effect on
skills/personality.
Question 11
1: None 2: Teaching 3: Aggressive Personality 4: Normal
Personality
5: None
Question 12
1: Martial Arts 2: Knifing 3: None 4: Automatic Weapons 5: Hand
to
Hand combat 6: None 7: None
Question 12
1: Martial Arts 2: Knifing 3: None 4: Automatic Weapons 5: Hand
to
Hand combat 6: Electronics 7: None 8: None
Question 13
1: None 2: Normal Personality 3: Normal Personality 4: None
Question 14
1: None 2: Normal Personality 3: None 4: None
Question 15
1: Throwing 2: Ambidextrous 3: None 4: None
Question 16
The answers to this question have no effect on
skills/personality.
Riven
>>The 50 points thing was orignially put it to counteract 'negative' traits,
>>whatever those were. Psycho isnt one of them apparently. The negative
>>traits were taken out of the game(I guess the playtesters didnt like them
>>much), but the extra points that were gained for garnering one, were not.
>>That will be fixed in the forthcoming patch. The 2 auto weps questions
are
>>#4 and #12. Each skill has 2 answers on the questionnaire.
>>
>>Skipping questions is a good idea, one that I havent tried. I finally got
>>my autowep expert, but restarted shortly thereafter to get a night
>>ops/autoweps guy. We shall see.
>
You can get autoweapons expert without going nuts to do it.
You'd be surprised at how easy it it. I didn't write down my answer
sequence, but choose the skills you want
before you answer the questions and then answer accordingly. I've made
characters with Ambidex and Auto
weapons, another with auto expert (if yer an expert, do u only get one
skill?), etc. My current char is Stealthy and Night Ops.
For auto-weapons, choosing Lara Croft/Clint Eastwood, the GunRack of
semi-automatic hunting rifles, and the NRA vs. Congress seems neccessary.
Olaf
through the floor, or run over barney with a buick, or really endorse
violence, etc. Then, just make sure you select the rifle rack answer and
the NRA vs. Congress answer, without selecting 2 answers in any other trait,
and you should be good to go.
olaf
Mad Sci <mad...@usa.net> wrote in message
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> "Olaf" <ol...@texas.net> wrote:
>
> >The 50 points thing was orignially put it to counteract 'negative'
traits,
> >whatever those were. Psycho isnt one of them apparently. The negative
> >traits were taken out of the game(I guess the playtesters didnt like them
> >much), but the extra points that were gained for garnering one, were not.
> >That will be fixed in the forthcoming patch. The 2 auto weps questions
are
> >#4 and #12. Each skill has 2 answers on the questionnaire.
> >
> >Skipping questions is a good idea, one that I havent tried. I finally
got
> >my autowep expert, but restarted shortly thereafter to get a night
> >ops/autoweps guy. We shall see.
>
Linda Currie
merc doesn't have a burst fire capable weapon, its a little hard for them to
get crazy (must not be as thrilling to kill with a single shot... <g>). BTW
using max aiming points does make them more likely to retain control over
their psycho emotions.... (I personally loved it on my IMP merc.. she was a
killing machine ; )
Linda Currie
Olaf wrote in message ...
Eric Rosenberg
wrote:
>Course if you do get psycho, you do get a bonus to hit... and if the psycho
>merc doesn't have a burst fire capable weapon, its a little hard for them to
>get crazy (must not be as thrilling to kill with a single shot... <g>). BTW
>using max aiming points does make them more likely to retain control over
>their psycho emotions.... (I personally loved it on my IMP merc.. she was a
>killing machine ; )
>
>Linda Currie
>
I'm sure there are contractual limitations but the JA2 strat guide
wasn't very good. What is the likelihood of seeing a good "advice
manual" with specific game information (these kind of psycho hit
bonuses)?
Hunter
points,
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Hunter
"If the hunter is good enough he will never become the hunted"
Olaf <ol...@texas.net> wrote in message
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> Well, just avoid the 'psycho' answers, like the one where you shoot a gun
> through the floor, or run over barney with a buick, or really endorse
> violence, etc. Then, just make sure you select the rifle rack answer and
> the NRA vs. Congress answer, without selecting 2 answers in any other
trait,
> and you should be good to go.
>