BATTLECRUISER 3000AD FREE TO GAMERS!
Bob
> At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be
> available in
> the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post
> on their
And all this on Friday the Thirteenth :)
Bruno
Actually, I thought the later revs were pretty decent. I hope one of the mags picks
it
up as I'd liked the demo version published previously.
Good luck on v. 2.0, Derek
Bruno
Derek Smart
Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
For immediate release
February 12, 1998
Atlanta Today, in a dramatic move Derek Smart - designer and developer of
Battlecruiser 3000ad, announced in a lengthy open letter his intent to provide
Battlecruiser 3000ad, a version known as v1.01D7c, released free to the public.
In the letter, Derek describes, in his own words, many of the trials and
tribulations he's gone through in bringing this game to market and the reasons
for giving away the product just two weeks after regaining all rights to the
franchise from former publisher, Take Two Interactive Software. The mutual
release, signed just two weeks ago, marked the end of a chapter in the saga of
BC3K, possibly the most storied game in the history of the PC.
Detailing the journey from vaporware to reality, Derek addresses his feelings
on many issues surrounding his game, including his desire to see his dream
realized.
While details concerning the commercial release of the upcoming v2.0 which,
among other advanced features will support 3Dfx and Rendition accelerators, are
still up in the air, Derek reaffirms his commitment to his gamers worldwide and
concerns about an industry his company has worked so hard to contribute to.
The FREE version of the game will be available in 11 file segments from the
3000AD web site as well as several on-line sites that have agreed to host the
files for their readers. Derek has also offered gaming publications the option
to carry it on their CD issues.
At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be available in
the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post on their
own sites. Before hosting these files, you MUST read the corresponding text
available at the link below and adhere to the conditions therein.
www.bc3000ad.com/news/bc3kpr11.txt
Derek Smart, Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
Battlecruiser:3000AD
ICQ : 158435
Email : dsm...@pobox.com
Media Contact : John Stegenga, bc3000a...@mindspring.com
World Wide Web : www.bc3000ad.com
BC3K Latest News : www.bc3000ad.com/news/gnnnews.html
BC3K Product News : www.bc3000ad.com/products/products.html
Active Worlds : Teleport to GALCOM at www.activeworlds.com
BC3K sci-fi story : www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/4739/index.html
King~James
Whoa !!! totally cooooooooooooollllllll ! I may just send
Derek some $$ just for this show of Generosity.
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
wrote:
Geoffrey Tobin
This is very magnanimous, especially in the circumstances.
In article <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
Derek Smart <dsmart@NOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote:
>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
Is this cash-free or GNU free? That is, are you releasing the source
code, too? (Just asking.)
--
Best wishes!
Geoffrey Tobin
Email: G.T...@latrobe.edu.au
WWW: http://www.ee.latrobe.edu.au/~gt/gt.html
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart) wrote:
>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
OK gang, now that I've not only caused a phone call from my ISP, my site is
packed to the brim. So, please try one of the Games Domain mirrior sites to
download the file. Watch for it on the cd-rom of several print magazines too!
http://www.gamesdomain.com/demos/demo/BC3K.html
Thanks
Derek Smart
Thanks for your support. Most print mags have already sent email saying that
they would carry it. So, wait until it shows up if you can't do a 52MB
download. btw, this is NOT a demo, it's the FULL version currently on release
and being sold in stores.
Derek Smart
On 13 Feb 1998 04:05:40 GMT, g...@faraday.ee.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin)
wrote:
>This is very magnanimous, especially in the circumstances.
>
>In article <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
>Derek Smart <dsmart@NOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
>Is this cash-free or GNU free? That is, are you releasing the source
>code, too? (Just asking.)
hehe, no such luck <g>
Nai-Chi Lee
In article <34e3b9ad...@news.flash.net>,
King~James <dd...@flash.net> wrote:
>Whoa !!! totally cooooooooooooollllllll ! I may just send
>Derek some $$ just for this show of Generosity.
Hee hee, I think I'll wait a little longer. If the current trend is
any indication, pretty soon Mr. Smart will have to _pay_ gamers to
play his game.
;-)
--
Nai-Chi
=======================================================================
Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained equally
well by incompetence.
=======================================================================
Darrin Adams
Derek,
Best of luck with version 2. Being a fellow developer, I'm sympathetic
to your publishing woes (granted I haven't developed something as large
scale as BC3000). I have a feeling that if the game is half a
interesting as all these posts, it should be very entertaining!
Darrin Adams
Playful Minds
Derek Smart wrote:
>
> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
John
The infamous shit peddler, Derek Smart sorta wrote:
>
> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000SHIT FREE to the gaming public
>
Free Shit! Get your free shit here! If you get our free shit now, we
will throw in a shingle for only $15! You can then buy our soon to be
released, 3DFX corn laden shit for $45! Also keep an eye out for our
expansion shit packs like our 1st person perspective terd shooter for
only $25 each.
> Derek Smart, Ph.D. University of Shit
> Designer/Lead Fecal Developer
> Battlecruiser:3000SHIT
>
Dave Whiteside
In article <34e5bc3f...@news.concentric.net>, lost...@cris.com
(Lost Dragon) wrote:
> >> the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post
> >And all this on Friday the Thirteenth :)
>
> For free, I will try it out just to see what it's like..
>
>
> /| .oo__. .-----.=- Lost Dragon -=.-----. U
> { \| ,-'' | _O_ |==- Dungeon Bane: A New Shareware CRPG -==| _O_ | D
> `,_/'(_)\_ | | |===-- http://www.cris.com/~lostdrgn/ --===| | | I
> <...{_)_)_''`-----`=====-- Currently in Development --====='-----' C
>
Depends what you mean 'for free' it's a 53Mb download
Dave
Clay
Tell us how you feel John. Stop holding back.
:)
Jimmy Chan
Geez, spamming so many newsgroups.
Derek Smart (dsm...@pobox.com) wrote:
:#Thanks for your support. Most print mags have already sent email saying that
:#they would carry it. So, wait until it shows up if you can't do a 52MB
:#download. btw, this is NOT a demo, it's the FULL version currently on release
:#and being sold in stores.
<Fake claim to a PhD snipped>
Let's see if this is the version that is currently released in stores, then
I guess this is the same old crap that you scammed people into buying. So,
it is still the bugged version? Now is this the version that was
originally supposed to be released by Take2, except over 1 year later?
--
==============================ji...@hawaii.edu===============================
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:45:04 -0800, Darrin Adams <dar...@playfulminds.com>
wrote:
>Derek,
>
>Best of luck with version 2. Being a fellow developer, I'm sympathetic
>to your publishing woes (granted I haven't developed something as large
>scale as BC3000). I have a feeling that if the game is half a
>interesting as all these posts, it should be very entertaining!
>
>Darrin Adams
>Playful Minds
Thanks for your support Darrin!
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 12:22:30 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart) wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart) wrote:
>
>>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
>OK gang, now that I've not only caused a phone call from my ISP, my site is
>packed to the brim. So, please try one of the Games Domain mirrior sites to
>download the file. Watch for it on the cd-rom of several print magazines too!
>
>http://www.gamesdomain.com/demos/demo/BC3K.html
To say that my ISP didn't find my generous gesture amusing would be an
understatement. No only did thousands people jam the site, they brought it down
on it's knees I'm told. So bad that the entire backbone has been down for over
3 hrs while they try to bring the server back up.
So, if you're trying to get the file, try one of the mirrored sites above until
my ISP is back up. I am currently uploading to Compuserve as well.
Meghan Jenks (Interplay)
>OK gang, now that I've not only caused a phone call from my ISP, my site is
>packed to the brim. So, please try one of the Games Domain mirrior sites to
>download the file. Watch for it on the cd-rom of several print magazines too!
>
>http://www.gamesdomain.com/demos/demo/BC3K.html
>
Derek, will there be any sites that have one complete file for those
of us with fast connections? I'd rather download one file than 11. :)
Meghan
=====================================================================
Meghan S. Jenks mje...@interplay.com
Interplay Productions - By Gamers. For Gamers. alt.games.interplay
www.dragonplay.com www.interplay.com www.macplay.com
Enter the world Of Light & Darkness at http://www.interplay.com/olad
ih...@hormell.winternet.com
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote:
> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
Well, I guess I won't be trying this out at work today. :P
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Ben Flieger
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
>For immediate release
>
53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
bode well for DLing something that i 53 MB. Took me a week to DL the AOE
demo, the damn thing kept on shorting out...
P.S. Anyone in Cleveland know of a fast, ~$20 a month local ISP? Cause I am
getting pissed at my current one.
Kevin Kramer
Ben Flieger wrote:
>
> Derek Smart wrote in message <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> >Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
> >
> >For immediate release
> >
>
> 53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
> to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
> bode well for DLing something that i 53 MB. Took me a week to DL the AOE
> demo, the damn thing kept on shorting out...
Get Go!Zilla, its free and its great. It is the only way to
download files from the net (ftp or html...)
Do a web search, I am sure you can find it, otherwise I can get
the URL when I get home.
>
> P.S. Anyone in Cleveland know of a fast, ~$20 a month local ISP? Cause I am
> getting pissed at my current one.
I use AT&T Worldnet and have had no complaints (weel, just a few minor
ones...)
Kevin
Rickenbacker
In article <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, dsm...@pobox.com
says...
> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
check it out to see what all the fuss is about... At least the idea is
really good...
Rickenbacker
Jay C. Parangalan
Meghan Jenks (Interplay) wrote:
> Derek, will there be any sites that have one complete file for those
> of us with fast connections? I'd rather download one file than 11. :)
Agreed, I've found perhaps five sites (plus several non-US ones) but they all have
the split files. In the end, I just ended up having 11 download progress dialogs
floating around my desktop. -:)
--
Jay C. Parangalan, http://www.jps.net/firefly0/
aka Jaenathan AzureRose of River's Rest, Elanthia
aka Unicorn21 of Magic Edge, Novaworld, et. al.
Syed Noman Ahmad
In article <6c2d2p$e...@nntp02.primenet.com>,
Ben Flieger <a...@spamdis.primenet.com> wrote:
>
>53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
>to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
The game is broken in 10 files....... So you do get some breathing
space.
--
Noman
Derek Smart
>On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 12:22:30 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
>wrote:
>
>>OK gang, now that I've not only caused a phone call from my ISP, my site is
>>packed to the brim. So, please try one of the Games Domain mirrior sites to
>>download the file. Watch for it on the cd-rom of several print magazines too!
>>
>>http://www.gamesdomain.com/demos/demo/BC3K.html
>>
>
>Derek, will there be any sites that have one complete file for those
>of us with fast connections? I'd rather download one file than 11. :)
>
>Meghan
hehe, I doubt it. You can download all 11 if you use the Getright program from
www.headlightsw.com
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:35:44 -0800, "Jay C. Parangalan"
<fir...@unforgettable.ICQ2206662.com> wrote:
>Meghan Jenks (Interplay) wrote:
>
>> Derek, will there be any sites that have one complete file for those
>> of us with fast connections? I'd rather download one file than 11. :)
>
>Agreed, I've found perhaps five sites (plus several non-US ones) but they all have
>the split files. In the end, I just ended up having 11 download progress dialogs
>floating around my desktop. -:)
hehe, in the future, try the Getright program www.headlightsw.com, it uses a
single dialogue and you can download to your hearts content. It even schedules
downloads, resumes aborted downloads and makes coffee <g>
Bill Huffman
>
>
>February 12, 1998
>The FREE version of the game will be available in 11 file segments from the
>3000AD web site as well as several on-line sites that have agreed to host the
>files for their readers. Derek has also offered gaming publications the option
>to carry it on their CD issues.
As a supporter I'm looking forward to assisting your bashing and name
calling of PCGamer and the editorial staff of PCGamer when/if they decide
not to carry v1.01D7c.
Are we going to bash and name call the whole magazine industry when/if no
one decides to carry it? I'm just waiting for your lead Supreme Commander.
>At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be available in
>the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post on their
>own sites. Before hosting these files, you MUST read the corresponding text
>available at the link below and adhere to the conditions therein.
>
> www.bc3000ad.com/news/bc3kpr11.txt
I read the whole thing, folks. For those of you that don't have an hour
or two to spare :-), here's a synopsis.
Derek is brilliant, great and good. Derek is brilliant, great and good.
Derek is brilliant, great and good. Derek is brilliant, great and good.
Derek is brilliant, great and good. He has every Computer Science book
ever published. He is a super great guy to work with and know. He grew
up in England and in 1989 he was in England selling computers going to
school and working on BC3K. He has 3 degrees including a PhD. Dan
Bennet and TLM (Liam McDonald?) are evil assholes that have a grudge
against Derek (our hero) for no good reason. BC3K is the greatest most
advanced game that ever was, (however, it is incomplete and shouldn't be
reviewed by professionals). You can get the current full BC3K version
that is complete for free (55MB download). This is a gift to the world
and the gaming community that proves, Derek is brilliant, great and good.
>Derek Smart, Ph.D. (our hero!!!!!!)
Derek Smart
On 13 Feb 1998 14:14:01 -0700, "Ben Flieger" <a...@primenet.remove.com> wrote:
>
>Derek Smart wrote in message <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>>
>>For immediate release
>>
>
>53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
>to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
>bode well for DLing something that i 53 MB. Took me a week to DL the AOE
>demo, the damn thing kept on shorting out...
I already have a firm commitment from PC Games (US) and I expect the same from
the other mags I've kept in touch with these past years. Don't expect anything
from PC Gamer though, unless Gary sanctions it. See, if you gamers don't
request it, they won't carry it. At least that's what Dan Bennett said last
year.
Also, John is working something out where people who don't want to download it
can send him $10 for a cd-rom of the whole thing, including intro, manual etc.
Check out today's news at www.bc3000ad.com/news/gnnnews.html
>P.S. Anyone in Cleveland know of a fast, ~$20 a month local ISP? Cause I am
>getting pissed at my current one.
nope <g>
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:02:18 +0100, rickenb...@SPAMinnocent.com
(Rickenbacker) wrote:
>In article <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, dsm...@pobox.com
>says...
>> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>>
>Nice move. I've followed the ongoing saga of BC3K, and now I might just
>check it out to see what all the fuss is about... At least the idea is
>really good...
That was the whole intention <g>
Derek Smart
On 13 Feb 1998 20:59:50 GMT, ih...@hormell.winternet.com wrote:
>In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
>Well, I guess I won't be trying this out at work today. :P
LOL
Does it not work under NT? It works under OS/2 Warp just fine. Try it under NT
and let me know. I don't have an NT box and don't want one either <g>
Travis Lamming
Darrin Adams wrote in message <34E46A...@playfulminds.com>...
damn, still waiting for version 2 before i start playing again, after having
it sit on the shelf for a year and a half.....wish take 2 wasnt so freaking
stupid, i gave them 50 hard earned bucks when the game came out, now its out
for free. damn it all.......
T. Lamming
Riboflavin
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c2l1b$s...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>LOL
>
>Does it not work under NT? It works under OS/2 Warp just fine. Try it under
NT
>and let me know. I don't have an NT box and don't want one either <g>
You see that Circle? Yet another mark against Derek Smart. Come to the dark
side...
--
Kevin Allegood ri...@mindspring.com
No tengo puesto ningunos pantalones. Película a las 11.
Je ne porte aucun pantalon. Film à 11.
Ich trage keine Hosen. Film bei 11.
Non sto portando alcuni pantaloni. Pellicola a 11.
Eu não estou desgastando nenhumas calças. Película em 11.
Gno mou shiok fu, sap yat tim yau siu sek.
Jag har inga byxor på mig. Film kl 11.
Uiopy treintity angleksi a retyuivia. Arestada bermany 11.
Ik heb geen broek aan. Film om 11 uur.
wo mei chuan kuzi. 11 wan jian.
Minulla ei ole housut päällä - elokuva alkaa klo 11
Asieoniezi asieoniezi asieoniezi! Asieoniezi asieoniezi, asieoniezi.
Pants sil sil sil! Beable doidy druidy 11!
Ani lo lovesh michnasayim! Seret besha`ah 11.
Paji opsoyo. 11 shi e pirum issoyo.
Jeg har ingen bukser på. Film kl 11.
Pantsless in 17 languages!
Christopher E. Johnson
In article <6c2kv5$s...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, dsm...@pobox.com
says...
>
> That was the whole intention <g>
>
>
> Derek Smart, Ph.D.
> Designer/Lead Developer
> Battlecruiser:3000AD
Wish you would have had these intentions two weeks ago. Would have saved
me $15 <g>. At least I get to add the nice Take 2 box to my collection.
I think that the free download is a nice move. May upset your die hard
fans, but at least people will see that there is something of a game in
BC3K.
Chris
JubJub McRae
Thank you.
Don C Jacobs
Makes the coffee too, WOW, that sells it for me }8Ş
Derek Smart wrote in message >hehe, in the future, try the Getright program
Don C Jacobs
John wrote in message <34E47173...@nac.net>...
>The infamous shit peddler, Derek Smart sorta wrote:
> Free Shit! Get your free shit here! If you get our free shit now, we
<remaining idiocy removed>
Nice you dufus. Derek DIDN'T release an unfinished product. Take 2 did.
Derek didnt want to release it, but Take 2 decided the had spent enough
money on it, and drop kicked it out the door.
Derek DIDN'T HAVE to produce the patches that made it a better game. But he
did because it wasn't finished. He knew it, we knew it, and damn well Take 2
knew it. But I don't see you razing Take 2 about their policy.
So park the shit were it really belongs.
rotting corpse
this happens to all kinds of games. after a while when they
have a sequel coming out they might release the original for free, like
Red Baron, kind of.
--RC
rotting corpse
Donn wrote:
>
> hello, Mr. Smart - have followed your adventure in game mags etc. and just
> want to say thanks - I'm not into "fan" worship, but you've got a future
> customer keeping an eye out - congratulations!
> --
> Donn(junk...@mindspring.com)
Same here! But why did you give the game out for free? stir something
up for V. 2.0?
I think it will be hard for people to whine about your
game now, it's free!
thanks. --Rotting Corpse
Willy
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c23bv$h...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
Thanks Derek, I am now DLing it and will give it a spin.
Just checked, I am getting it from ftp.gamesdomain.com and currently my
throoughput is 27.3KB/sec, using a P150 machine, MSIE4 and a cable modem.
Thanks again.
--
Willy
...King, I didn't know we had one.
I thought we were an autonomous collective!
Monty Python
Willy
Dave Whiteside wrote in message ...
>
>Depends what you mean 'for free' it's a 53Mb download
>
That's not bad, a free game for less than an hour on the internet.
I should be able to DL it in about 52-54 minutes, thanks
Kevin McKee
Is the version on ftp.gamesdomain.com the 1.00 version or the 1.01D7C
version? It still seems majorly buggy. I downloaded the whole thing, and
it crashes EVERY time I try to save a game, and EVERY time it tries to
access the CommLink. The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
-Kevin-
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c1dvr$d...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart) wrote:
>
>>Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>
<snip>
Tim Chown
Bruno wrote:
>
> Actually, I thought the later revs were pretty decent. I hope one of the mags picks
> it
> up as I'd liked the demo version published previously.
I think it's a great gesture, and should at last stimulate some talk
about the game and the engine behind it, rather than the usual trash
threads we see here!
The online mags will naturally carry the game, and I'm sure Derek will
get the game onto at least some gaming mag cover CDs for those for
whom 50Mb download is a little excessive :-)
Way to go Derek!
--
Tim Chown | The Games Domain Review 1000+ reviews!
Strategy Editor | http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview (USA)
stra...@gamesdomain.com | http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk/gdreview (UK)
Kay-Yut Chen - remove ABC in email to reply
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 23:22:43 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:35:44 -0800, "Jay C. Parangalan"
><fir...@unforgettable.ICQ2206662.com> wrote:
>
>>Meghan Jenks (Interplay) wrote:
>>
>>> Derek, will there be any sites that have one complete file for those
>>> of us with fast connections? I'd rather download one file than 11. :)
>>
>>Agreed, I've found perhaps five sites (plus several non-US ones) but they all have
>>the split files. In the end, I just ended up having 11 download progress dialogs
>>floating around my desktop. -:)
>
>hehe, in the future, try the Getright program www.headlightsw.com, it uses a
>single dialogue and you can download to your hearts content. It even schedules
>downloads, resumes aborted downloads and makes coffee <g>
>
>
Thank you. This is exactly the kind of utility I am looking for.
Kay-Yut
Joe
"Ben Flieger" <a...@primenet.remove.com> wrote:
>53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
>to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
>bode well for DLing something that i 53 MB. Took me a week to DL the AOE
>demo, the damn thing kept on shorting out...
You need the "Get Right" shareware. It can resume broken downloads, so
you can easily download overnight, or even over multiple nights (i.e.,
log on again and resume the download where it left off). I use it to
get 20-30+MB demos all the time, it works great.
Joe McGinn
===================================================
Author of Inside LotusScript
http://www.manning.com/McGinn/459.html
===================================================
Donn
Darrylbar
Hello
Just a few simple questions for those with the correct information (ie
no spammers, no ass kissers, and no kill anything with Smart's Name on it
people).
1. Just what version is on the game site.
2. System requirements (ie processor, memory, operating
system).
3. Given the answer to number one, what changes,
enhancments, docs are included in this free download that makes
it something one would want to take the time to get.
Just trying to get to the core of the matter.
Darrylbar
Willy
Willy wrote in message <6c36nd$blc$1...@news.on>...
>Dave Whiteside wrote in message ...
>>
>>Depends what you mean 'for free' it's a 53Mb download
>>
>
>
>That's not bad, a free game for less than an hour on the internet.
>I should be able to DL it in about 52-54 minutes, thanks
That wasn't bad at all.
I posted the first message before I started to DL it and I just finnished
the DL before this one. I will have to check the times of these two messages
to see how quick it was tonight.
Thanks again Dr. Derek.
Bruce Rennie
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Bob <b...@cts.com> wrote:
> > At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be
> > available in
> > the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post
> > on their
> And all this on Friday the Thirteenth :)
Yes, it's not usually so easy to get people to download viruses. Usually
you have to hide them in valuable software. :^}
Just kidding.
/bruce
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Derek Smart
On 14 Feb 1998 03:37:24 GMT, "Donn" <junn...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>hello, Mr. Smart - have followed your adventure in game mags etc. and just
>want to say thanks - I'm not into "fan" worship, but you've got a future
>customer keeping an eye out - congratulations!
Thanks for your support!
Derek Smart, Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
Battlecruiser:3000AD
ICQ : 158435
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:10:15 -0800, rotting corpse <rotting...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Donn wrote:
>>
>> hello, Mr. Smart - have followed your adventure in game mags etc. and just
>> want to say thanks - I'm not into "fan" worship, but you've got a future
>> customer keeping an eye out - congratulations!
>> --
>> Donn(junk...@mindspring.com)
>
> Same here! But why did you give the game out for free? stir something
>up for V. 2.0?
>
> I think it will be hard for people to whine about your
>game now, it's free!
>
> thanks. --Rotting Corpse
I think I explained my reasons in the file on my news site at
www.bc3000ad.com/news/gnnnews.html
It's simple, I want the game to speak for itself. Noone has to spend a dime to
check it out amidst the bad press of late '96 and early '97. I feel confident
that people will agree that the game is indeed a work of art, technological
advanced and that getting v2.0 shouldn't be an issue. I was just playing with
the 3Dfx Glide version and let me tell you this, we ain't worried. With it's
advanced feature set and graphics enhancements, v2.0 will have the gameplay
brawn and graphics dazzle to compete with anything out there. The WIN32 sequel
will be able to compete with anything coming out for Christmas '98. We remain
hopeful.
Derek Smart
>In article <6c2kv5$s...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, dsm...@pobox.com
>says...
>>
>> That was the whole intention <g>
>>
>>
>> Derek Smart, Ph.D.
>> Designer/Lead Developer
>> Battlecruiser:3000AD
>
>Wish you would have had these intentions two weeks ago. Would have saved
>me $15 <g>. At least I get to add the nice Take 2 box to my collection.
>
>I think that the free download is a nice move. May upset your die hard
>fans, but at least people will see that there is something of a game in
>BC3K.
>
>Chris
I don't think it upsets any fans, in fact, quite on the contrary because now
they won't be labeled as mindless zealots. The game speaks for itself and it
does so with pride.
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:07:43 -0800, "Kevin McKee" <ke...@nwi.net> wrote:
>Is the version on ftp.gamesdomain.com the 1.00 version or the 1.01D7C
>version? It still seems majorly buggy. I downloaded the whole thing, and
>it crashes EVERY time I try to save a game, and EVERY time it tries to
>access the CommLink. The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
>CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>
>-Kevin-
That version is v1.01D7C that has been in circulation to owners since 1997. You
may have a bad download or bad install.
We are aware of a save/restore problem which only happens under obscure
circumstances (has been fixed). There is a workaround described at
www.bc3000ad.com/news/gnnnews.html
I would suggest that you re-install and read the BC3KHELP.TXT and README.TXT
files.
I don't know about an Extreme warfare mode in my game.
anonymous
From Derek Smart's press release:
"In 1989 while I was in the UK where I grew up, I had an idea for a game
after
spending long hours on my Viglen computer. In those days, I had no
experience
whatsoever, didn't even know enough about my computer and the only magazine
worth reading was Byte."
[...]
"I program in over eight computer languages, my experience with
software packages as well as advanced application design and development
goes as
far back as the inception of the industry as we know it"
The inception of the industry as we know it was in 1989?
Brian Short
Slotties
Travis Lamming wrote:
> Darrin Adams wrote in message <34E46A...@playfulminds.com>...
> damn, still waiting for version 2 before i start playing again, after having
> it sit on the shelf for a year and a half.....wish take 2 wasnt so freaking
> stupid, i gave them 50 hard earned bucks when the game came out, now its out
> for free. damn it all.......
>
> T. Lamming
Cheer up, it may not be wasted money after all because you still require
to send in the original BC3K cd-rom if you want to get the V2.0 upgrade.
IF Derek doesn't change his mind about that.
D. Slothouber
Slotties
Kevin McKee wrote:
> The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
> CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>
That is normal. When you start Extreme Carnage the game automaticlyswitches to
the Commlink to show you the mision goal(s).
Just move the mouse arrow to the Galcom logo on the top-right and select
log off to return to the cockpit.
D. Slothouber
Dana Drury
What the hell are you on about, the games absolutely pathetic, a
monkey could write a better program, I can't believe I paid money for it
when it came out...
King~James (dd...@flash.net) wrote:
: Whoa !!! totally cooooooooooooollllllll ! I may just send
: Derek some $$ just for this show of Generosity.
:
: On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
: wrote:
:
: >Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
: >
: >For immediate release
: >
: >February 12, 1998
: >
: >Atlanta Today, in a dramatic move Derek Smart - designer and developer of
: >Battlecruiser 3000ad, announced in a lengthy open letter his intent to provide
: >Battlecruiser 3000ad, a version known as v1.01D7c, released free to the public.
: >
: >In the letter, Derek describes, in his own words, many of the trials and
: >tribulations he's gone through in bringing this game to market and the reasons
: >for giving away the product just two weeks after regaining all rights to the
: >franchise from former publisher, Take Two Interactive Software. The mutual
: >release, signed just two weeks ago, marked the end of a chapter in the saga of
: >BC3K, possibly the most storied game in the history of the PC.
: >
: >Detailing the journey from vaporware to reality, Derek addresses his feelings
: >on many issues surrounding his game, including his desire to see his dream
: >realized.
: >
: >While details concerning the commercial release of the upcoming v2.0 which,
: >among other advanced features will support 3Dfx and Rendition accelerators, are
: >still up in the air, Derek reaffirms his commitment to his gamers worldwide and
: >concerns about an industry his company has worked so hard to contribute to.
: >
: >The FREE version of the game will be available in 11 file segments from the
: >3000AD web site as well as several on-line sites that have agreed to host the
: >files for their readers. Derek has also offered gaming publications the option
: >to carry it on their CD issues.
: >
: >At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be available in
: >the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post on their
: >own sites. Before hosting these files, you MUST read the corresponding text
: >available at the link below and adhere to the conditions therein.
: >
: > www.bc3000ad.com/news/bc3kpr11.txt
: >
: >
: >Derek Smart, Ph.D.
: >Designer/Lead Developer
: >Battlecruiser:3000AD
: >
: >ICQ : 158435
: >Email : dsm...@pobox.com
: >Media Contact : John Stegenga, bc3000a...@mindspring.com
: >World Wide Web : www.bc3000ad.com
: >BC3K Latest News : www.bc3000ad.com/news/gnnnews.html
: >BC3K Product News : www.bc3000ad.com/products/products.html
: >Active Worlds : Teleport to GALCOM at www.activeworlds.com
: >BC3K sci-fi story : www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/4739/index.html
:
--
Mark Asher
Bruce Rennie <bre...@interlog.com> wrote:
>In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic Bob <b...@cts.com> wrote:
>> > At precisely 1201AM EST on February 13th 1998, the files will be
>> > available in
>> > the cargo bay at www.3000ad.com for online sites to download and post
>> > on their
>
>> And all this on Friday the Thirteenth :)
>
>Yes, it's not usually so easy to get people to download viruses. Usually
>you have to hide them in valuable software. :^}
>
>Just kidding.
Heh -- at work we did a limited release today to go out to 10
customers, or at least we tried. We kept finding weird last minute
glitches that would send everyone back to their cubes to fix and
quickly test, and then when we were finally ready to burn some CDs,
the CD burner went on the fritz. It was really Friday the 13th.
Mark Asher
B P
>
>John wrote in message <34E47173...@nac.net>...
>>The infamous shit peddler, Derek Smart sorta wrote:
>> Free Shit! Get your free shit here! If you get our free shit now, we
><remaining idiocy removed>
>
>Nice you dufus. Derek DIDN'T release an unfinished product. Take 2 did.
>Derek didnt want to release it, but Take 2 decided the had spent enough
>money on it, and drop kicked it out the door.
>
That's because Derek was suppose to have it done the xmas before, and
in fact claimed it was. I blame them both.
>Derek DIDN'T HAVE to produce the patches that made it a better game. But he
>did because it wasn't finished. He knew it, we knew it, and damn well Take 2
>knew it. But I don't see you razing Take 2 about their policy.
This is all Derek has in his life what else would he do, start another
10 year project ? As for T2 they won't get any of my money again and
neither will Derek. But I might try it again for free But I'll never
buy anything from with Derek's name and faked Phd on it either.
Jonathan Normington
Derek Smart wrote:
> > The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
> > CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>
> I don't know about an Extreme warfare mode in my game.
It seems pretty obvious that he means Xtreme Carnage, you unhelpful tosser.
--
Jonathan Normington
Derek Smart
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:02 -0700, Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
Computer Science
Derek Smart
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:16:48 +0100, Slotties <dsp...@wirehub.nl> wrote:
>
>
>Kevin McKee wrote:
>
>> The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
>> CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>>
>
>That is normal. When you start Extreme Carnage the game automaticlyswitches to
>the Commlink to show you the mision goal(s).
>Just move the mouse arrow to the Galcom logo on the top-right and select
>log off to return to the cockpit.
>
>D. Slothouber
Beat me to it. Thanks. Someone hasn't been reading the manual <g>
no-brainer@unleesrjed clampet
On 14 Feb 1998 12:51:48 GMT, da...@zip.com.au (Dana Drury) wrote:
>
> What the hell are you on about, the games absolutely pathetic, a
>monkey could write a better program, I can't believe I paid money for it
>when it came out...
Dear Monkey boy..please try to comprehend the following
The buzz word here kids is "When it came out"...so you mister master
programmer that has produced.....................what.........body
odor, ...an unusually large load of fecal material that migrated to
your cranium......you have produced WHAT.........SHIT
Did you oh holy of assholies...bother to download THE latest patch
did you see the game with said patches..with the lens flare off the
windows of ships, with the terrain maps of mars, earth, with the
stability of the game engine that is now rock solid....which fixed
what was the world's most buggiest game..and turned it into what is
now a godsend for HARDCORE strategy gamers and space sim fans.
Derek busted his balls.....to get the game up to snuff...should he
have before it was
released??? Of course...But other factors came in...and jerkwad..if
derek was such a twit/lamer that you apparently think and for all who
think HE released the game unfinished as some grand satanic plot
wouldn't he have skipped out with the iniitial loot long ago?
Look the fucking game is rock solid now with all the patches , the
manual is in adobe acrobat form at the web site, the game runs great
without any crashes, and even has the new graphical features of the
earth map , and mars that i described above...the neural net is
their...don't think so like that pc gamer asswipeT. Liam
Mcshithead..then let the game run by itself ....and just check on the
universe around you and see wars beiing fought by the other races
around you, ground attacks occurring in some planets, space wars
occurring..all without YOUR intervention.........so why the fuck were
you so fucking lame asswipe that you wouldn't get the patches and see
if you finally got your damn money's worth. The one problem i have
with
the game is that quite literally it has an awesome learning
curve..much higher than su-27 flanker has...derek has literally used
every damn shift, control, alt key combination on the dam,n
keyboard...IS THIS BAD?...NO . actually it is awesome....if you are a
flight sim fanatic ..try telling a flanker convert that their beloved
su-27 game is crap...because it has a high learning
curve....Papadoc..the rest of the flanker legions and myself will
personally drop by your house and pour marmalade over your godforsaken
ass and let the ants have their way with your butt
( sorry to involve you papadoc...but when referencing flanker i have
to go to the man that inspired me to think pink flamingo piloting, and
su-27 flanker was cool :).. hehehe..) The major problem with an
involved game, a deep game, a game with innumerable options and
possibilities , and a game like BATTLECRUISER 3000 AD , that has a
very involved attention magnet..is that you need some type of brain
to be able to appreciate its depth, to make a commitment to learning
its nuances, and for finally mastering its strategy...so there is your
problem MONKEY BOY.....you forgot to not only download the patches
for the game but also forgot to check on the systems integrity of your
own wet ware neutral net ,...
>King~James (dd...@flash.net) wrote:
>: Whoa !!! totally cooooooooooooollllllll ! I may just send
>: Derek some $$ just for this show of Generosity.
>:
>: On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:16:19 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
>: wrote:
>:
>: >Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
>: >
>: >For immediate release
>: >
>: >February 12, 1998
>: >
>: >Atlanta Today, in a dramatic move Derek Smart - designer and developer of
>: >Battlecruiser 3000ad, announced in a lengthy open letter his intent to provide
>: >Battlecruiser 3000ad, a version known as v1.01D7c, released free to the public.
>: >
>:
>:
>
>--
Derek Smart
Read it again.
jim_beam
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:52:45 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:02 -0700, Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
>Computer Science
>
Yeah, but we all know it's a fake!
Riboflavin
In honor of the latest BC3K development (probably one of the few ways for
Derek to get much interest in 2.0), I have composed a song for Derek Smart.
This should truly be the theme song for this latest BC3K gimmick.
This is based on Coolio's 'Gangsta's Paradise', or, my real source, Weird
Al's 'Amish Paradise'. I suggest you imagine it being sung to Weird Al's
music, this is not what one would call a serious song. And, as is usual for
a song, in some places you have to mangle pronunciation to get sound/meter
right.
And now, winner of the 1998 Allegood Award for excellence in musical satire,
we present:
Cruiser Paradise
By Kevin Allegood
(notes: I called the Fiancee 'wife' for rythym's sake, DV is slang for
'Developer', BT is slang for 'Beta Tester', fthx should be pronounced
'fu-thux')
As I surf Taco Palace
where I brag 'bout my game
I take a look at my wife and chick steps out the magazine
But that's just perfect for the Cruiser DV
You know I write Neural Net for the community
At 4:30 in the morning I'm flaming dolt,
J. Ballinger rants on 'bout race,
Kafaka an in... SULT
And I've been flaming and scamming so long that
Even S Fong Boy thinks my mind is gone
I'm a man of the game, I'm into programing
Got a thesis on my wall and Novell all scanned in
But don't cruise 'round in the ship, your box'll crash just like mine,
So tonight we're gonna party like it's two-nine ninety nine
We been spendin most our lives
Living a Cruiser Paradise
I've called the press and Usenet dykes
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
Game don't work, I won't be nice
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
You bought it once? We'll charge you twice
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
A stupid boy flamed my on the group last week
I just laughed at him, in his mouth I took a leak
I really don't care, in fact I hope he's well
Cause I'll be shovin his head up
his ass for that moussey smell.
But I ain't never flamed a poster, unless he deserved it
Good 'ol David Potter?
You know I'll just dodge it.
I never wear socks and I've got a cool pad,
And my BTs agree
My mom will still pay for me... FOOL
But my ego inflates, over all these years
Trying to understand my rants will bring you straight to tears
But the Cruiser ain't a loser
So please, those games don't compare
Though I can't keep up with tech out there.
There's no sense, no shame, no truth at all
Not a single lucid post
Like Popeye and his saying
I am who I know who I am
We been spending most our lives
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
fthx, Baz, and Bill are wives
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
The game's free 'less I charged you twice
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
How will I react? Roll some dice
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
Flamin' all the gamers, slamming on their mothers,
Ain't done the game today, go ahead and hype some others
Think you're a Commander?
Play the game with heart?
Well, more than possibly imagined
by you is how I'm Smart
I'm the nutso dev the little Clevey wanna be like
On the group playin' poor
Flamin' Take2 cause the games out the door
But don't blame me, I didn't sign it
Or else, oh gamer, I might have to trash
A Coke machine consignment
We been spending most our lives
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
We're all crazy, we think he's right
Living in a Cruiser Paradise
One day we'll all see the light
Living in a Cruiser paradise
But wait for V2, it'll sure be nice
Living in a Cruiser paradise
--
Kevin Allegood ri...@mindspring.com
No tengo puesto ningunos pantalones. Película a las 11.
Je ne porte aucun pantalon. Film à 11.
Ich trage keine Hosen. Film bei 11.
Non sto portando alcuni pantaloni. Pellicola a 11.
Eu não estou desgastando nenhumas calças. Película em 11.
Gno mou shiok fu, sap yat tim yau siu sek.
Jag har inga byxor på mig. Film kl 11.
Uiopy treintity angleksi a retyuivia. Arestada bermany 11.
Ik heb geen broek aan. Film om 11 uur.
wo mei chuan kuzi. 11 wan jian.
Minulla ei ole housut päällä - elokuva alkaa klo 11
Asieoniezi asieoniezi asieoniezi! Asieoniezi asieoniezi, asieoniezi.
Pants sil sil sil! Beable doidy druidy 11!
Ani lo lovesh michnasayim! Seret besha`ah 11.
Paji opsoyo. 11 shi e pirum issoyo.
Jeg har ingen bukser på. Film kl 11.
Pantsless in 17 languages!
Circle
Riboflavin wrote in message <6c2m56$l...@camel21.mindspring.com>...
>You see that Circle? Yet another mark against Derek Smart. Come to the dark
>side...
Dammit! And I just installed NT 4 at work.
Wait, listen. I have never claimed to be pro-Derek. I have been pro-indy-
developer. I know that Derek has definitely made a fruitcake case for himself
on the usenet. But, Jesus Christ(!), look at these morons like FTHX(Baz), Bill
Huffman, Jimmy Chan.....
Derek has at least made the effort to stop the Flame War to end all Flame Wars.
Fthx still posts every day some sort of BC3k Archive crap that nobody responds
to. Cleve is the only one we can get any fun out of anymore. Cleve and Final
Fantasy Tactics. Yeah.
Erm, now that this game is free, I may have to check it out.
Monumental download anyone?
Circle
Jimmy Chan
Derek Smart (dsm...@pobox.com) wrote:
:#On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:02 -0700, Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> wrote:
:#>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
:#Computer Science
Now try answering where you received it from. You claim it is in computer
science but don't say where you received it from means it isn't verifiable,
and it doesn't exist.
--
==============================ji...@hawaii.edu===============================
Greg Cisko
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c4i8d$q...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>Beat me to it. Thanks. Someone hasn't been reading the manual <g>
Manual? There is a real manual? Crap, I may have to give you the
benefiet of the doubt now and give the patched version a try :-)
--
Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.
gci...@concentric.net
Noman
Circle wrote:
>
>>
> Erm, now that this game is free, I may have to check it out.
> Monumental download anyone?
>
I downloaded it on 33.6 connection.... Took me 5 hours, I guess..
But it's a pretty cool game. I am surprised about production values.
I thought they would be pathetic, but they are in fact quite decent.
--
Noman
Iron Parrot JIIM
Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> did say:
>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
Don't start this again, please.
--
"Iron Parrot" JIIM - Servant of the Uber-Stoat
"Eugenics is the answer"
-Gibbering Man-Ape "Rudy Hess" advises us on how
to prevent another outbreak of the KKKlux.
Willy
Noman wrote in message <34E5F8AA...@zzzpacbell.yynet>...
>
>I downloaded it on 33.6 connection.... Took me 5 hours, I guess..
>But it's a pretty cool game. I am surprised about production values.
>I thought they would be pathetic, but they are in fact quite decent.
>
Wow, am I glad I have a cable modem, it took me a whole 36 minutes, it would
have been faster, but I was reading this newsgroup while DLing in the
background.
Jimmy Chan
Iron Parrot" JIIM (par...@thenest.org) wrote:
:#Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> did say:
:#>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
:#Don't start this again, please.
As long as DS is claiming a PhD in his .sig everytime he posts, this will
always come up because he doesn't have a PhD if it can't be verified.
--
==============================ji...@hawaii.edu===============================
Derek Smart
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:03:54 -0800, Noman <sy...@zzzpacbell.yynet> wrote:
>Circle wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Erm, now that this game is free, I may have to check it out.
>> Monumental download anyone?
>>
>
>I downloaded it on 33.6 connection.... Took me 5 hours, I guess..
>But it's a pretty cool game. I am surprised about production values.
>I thought they would be pathetic, but they are in fact quite decent.
Now you understand why I released it for free and put it in the hands of the
gaming public.
Derek Smart
On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:07:43 -0800, "Kevin McKee" <ke...@nwi.net> wrote:
>Is the version on ftp.gamesdomain.com the 1.00 version or the 1.01D7C
>version? It still seems majorly buggy. I downloaded the whole thing, and
>it crashes EVERY time I try to save a game, and EVERY time it tries to
>access the CommLink. The Extreme warfare is unusable because it jumps to
>CommLink immediately. Am I the only one experiencing this?
>
>-Kevin-
I also forgot to mention, do NOT use WIN95 longfile names for the install
directory!
Derek Smart
>On 14 Feb 1998 12:51:48 GMT, da...@zip.com.au (Dana Drury) wrote:
>
>>
>> What the hell are you on about, the games absolutely pathetic, a
>>monkey could write a better program, I can't believe I paid money for it
>>when it came out...
>Dear Monkey boy..please try to comprehend the following
Believe me Joe, take my advice, it's NOT worth it. Been there, done that, still
have the combat marks.
He said his piece, you said yours, let's leave at that. Only someone with NO
objective other than to cause trouble will continue along the path this guy has
taken. Do what I do. Ignore it. Believe me, if I can do it, so can you. The
game is out there. I have a flood of email that I am STILL responding to.
Everyone of them in praise of my actions, the game and the premise.
I don't think detractors have any place in this equation anymore. I've proven
my point. v2.0 is going to up the ante. Just wait.
And lets not even talk about surface ops. I was just playing the demo for
Activision's Battlezone (cool btw, get it!) and I was grinning from ear to ear
because BC3K gamers already have that and more in v2.0. Trust me on this.
Thanks for your support but take my advice and don't get drawn into a flame
war.
Nosferatu
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:23:58 GMT, Jim Beam wrote:
>Yeah, but we all know it's a fake!
Why don't you just fuck off. The guys busted his balls over this game
and he's giving it away for free. I find that very commendable. Who
cares if he has a PHD or not anyway. It's should only matter to
himself. We are not measured by our fellow man, but by ourselves
alone.
--
Nos
nos...@concentric.net
ja...@usa.net
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Nosferatu
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:03:54 -0800, Noman <sy...@zzzpacbell.yynet>
wrote:
>I downloaded it on 33.6 connection.... Took me 5 hours, I guess..
I'll wait for one of the gaming mags to put it on a demo cd rom.
Nosferatu
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:28:33 -0500, "Willy" <wan...@rogers.wave.ca>
wrote:
>
>Wow, am I glad I have a cable modem, it took me a whole 36 minutes, it would
>have been faster, but I was reading this newsgroup while DLing in the
>background.
How much does it cost for cable modem service?
Shane Scheikowski
On 14 Feb 1998 20:38:19 GMT, ji...@Hawaii.Edu (Jimmy Chan) wrote:
Dear Jimmy,
SHUT THE FUCK UP
>Iron Parrot" JIIM (par...@thenest.org) wrote:
>:#Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> did say:
>
>:#>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
>:#Don't start this again, please.
>
>As long as DS is claiming a PhD in his .sig everytime he posts, this will
>always come up because he doesn't have a PhD if it can't be verified.
I think we all had enough of that lame ass bullshit thread
last time, go get a job or something you complete loser.
DeadCat
I have six dicks, care to prove me wrong? Does it really matter?
Who cares if he has a PhD or not? If he does, good for him, if not, yippie.
How many people have walked in and our of this sig claiming to be Top Gun
instructors that really aren't, again who cares?
Wayne Peterson
In article <6c4re0$p...@examiner.concentric.net>, Greg Cisko,
gci...@nOsPaMconcentric.net says...
> Derek Smart wrote in message <6c4i8d$q...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> >Beat me to it. Thanks. Someone hasn't been reading the manual <g>
>
>
> Manual? There is a real manual? Crap, I may have to give you the
> benefiet of the doubt now and give the patched version a try :-)
>
almost an hour to print out. Though Derek needs to get someone to
proofread it.
Willy
Nosferatu wrote in message <34ef1272...@news.concentric.net>...
>On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:28:33 -0500, "Willy" <wan...@rogers.wave.ca>
>wrote:
>>
>>Wow, am I glad I have a cable modem, it took me a whole 36 minutes, it
would
>>have been faster, but I was reading this newsgroup while DLing in the
>>background.
>
>How much does it cost for cable modem service?
>--
I have the service here in Toronto Canada and it is $50 per month plus
applicable taxes ($7.50 - Provincial & Federal).
This gives me unlimited access, no busy signals because you are ALWAYS on.
They are aiming it at the family, so we get 5 Email addresses, and if I want
to create one, a free 5MB website.
no-brainer@unleesrjed clampet
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:07:43 -0500, "Circle"
<Cir...@ix.netcom.comREMOVE> wrote:
>Riboflavin wrote in message <6c2m56$l...@camel21.mindspring.com>...
>
>>You see that Circle? Yet another mark against Derek Smart. Come to the dark
>>side...
The only dark side i am seeing is the apparent atrophy, degradation,
and demyelination of some of these "professional" critics's rapidly
dwindling neurons ...see below
>Dammit! And I just installed NT 4 at work.
>
>Wait, listen. I have never claimed to be pro-Derek. I have been pro-indy-
>developer. I know that Derek has definitely made a fruitcake case for himself
>on the usenet. But, Jesus Christ(!), look at these morons like FTHX(Baz), Bill
>Huffman, Jimmy Chan.....
>
Excellent point...look i have not adopted a pro -derek is the messia
zealot crusade..i just like to support underdogs, and people that do
deliver (even eventually with lots of delays as was the case with
Derek) what they promised.
These professional morons are an intresting and very bizzare enigma
People usually post in a Game News Group to either ask for help
in a game or about a game, to flame a game or a person ( like Derek
has been done to AND has done...lets be fair here...and acknowledge
all parties actions) or to praise a game , and finally to share tips,
easter eggs etc.
These very strange guys i believe DO NOT PLAY GAMES ANY LONGER
How could they have the time, with their anti -Derek crusade that is
more than what a NORMAL well balenced person's anger would encompass
they have taken this crusade on for MONTHS...AND IN SOME CASES
YEARS!!!!
what was the last damn game they played , when was the last time they
posted to a gaming NG anything about ANY game they played
recently..for that matter when was the last time they WORKED, WENT TO
A MOVIE.....MAYBE HAD MORE THAN SOLO...UHMMM ONE HANDED SEX
......KEYWORD GUYS......WOMEN.....YOU DO REMEMBER THEM
And these guys call DEREK obsessed...listen if i worked hard on a game
, and it's developement was marred by financial woes corporate
schuffling, guy in suits bullshitting, if i was then further caught
behind the techno curve due to funding and had to take more time for
catch up, if i had to essentially write this game with a developement
team of one...me ..and if i loved my future product so much that i
addmittedly became overly zealous in singing its praises...finally if
after suffering from an early buggy release by a back stabbing
publishing house i finally patched the game to perfection ...and if
then i still got smacked by the likes of these professional morons...
i swear by all the mafia that share my very italian Brooklyn
neighborhood ..i would find these guys and pour so much fucking
concrete around them that concrete would be coming outta their ears,
nose, mouth, and ass and it would take a 10 megaton nuke to unwrap
their sorry worthless, do nothing, contribute nothing , are nothing
asses outta the concrete overcoat i made them so snug in
Has any of these 'Professional Morons"played the game With
the latest patches and made a web page with intelligent
criticism...you know guys like the kind you used to offer in these
newsgroups when you still had a gaming life?.I would love to see an
intelligent criticism of the newest patched game that intelligently
reviews the game interface, graphics, flight dynamics, neural net,
strategy, rendering, modeling, AI, etc.....Can we ever expect these
asswipes to do this.....NO ...because they are on a Fucking
crusade....look derek is zealous about his game..and admittedly over
the top on occaision..(hey its HIS fucking game ..wouldn't YOU be
too??)..but these professional moron asswipes have.......am hearing a
loud boomong silence here...they have done NOTHING...Derek dispite the
time he spends rightly or wrongly ...ripping down his critics HAS
FINISHED A FUCKING GAME What the hell have they done...?????
>Derek has at least made the effort to stop the Flame War to end all Flame Wars.
>Fthx still posts every day some sort of BC3k Archive crap that nobody responds
>to. Cleve is the only one we can get any fun out of anymore. Cleve and Final
>Fantasy Tactics. Yeah.
>
>Erm, now that this game is free, I may have to check it out.
>Monumental download anyone?
>
>Circle
>
>
Noman
Willy wrote:
>
> Noman wrote in message <34E5F8AA...@zzzpacbell.yynet>...
> >
> >I thought they would be pathetic, but they are in fact quite decent.
> >
>
> have been faster, but I was reading this newsgroup while DLing in the
> background.
One thing that'd completely change the way we look at dial-up
internet, is the Consumer DSL technology. You can expect download
speeds of upto (and more than) 1 Mega bit/sec and upload of
384 kb/sec (both rates can be adjusted). You 'll be using the same
telephone line, that's already installed at your home. No
installation of any sort required at your end (though, some changes
are required at central telephone office). You'll plug it in the
same wall conection that you have and you can talk at the same time
when you are connected. And the biggest feature is that,
you can expect the price of these modems to be uh.. reasonable.
BTW, this technology isn't just in conceptual phase. I have used
its prototypes and they do work. Pretty cool, IMHO.
Sorry for drifting off topic. (I hope I won't get plonked ;-)
--
Noman
Saboty Talon
> >53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
> >to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
>
> The game is broken in 10 files....... So you do get some breathing
> space.
>
Looks like I'll be waiting for the disk also. I just spent 5 damn hours
downloading it from the Active Worlds server (the only one that would respond)
and not ONE SINGLE FILE MATCHED the size it was supposed to be. Ended up with a
broken ZIP file that ended up 42 megs after trying to pkfix it.
You'd think maybe one or two files would have to be re-downloaded, but every
damn one?!?!?! I guess it's a good thing the game is free, cause if I paid
money for this kind of crap I'd be a little upset.
Don C Jacobs
Jimmy Chan wrote in message <6c4vbr$s...@news.Hawaii.Edu>...
>As long as DS is claiming a PhD in his .sig everytime he posts, this will
>always come up because he doesn't have a PhD if it can't be verified.
Hmmm, a PhD that can be verified over the net. Ok, how about you. Do you
have a LIFE that can be verified over the net?
Snowwhite
The guy gives us free software and you still moan and groan!
Ben Flieger wrote:
>
> Derek Smart wrote in message <6c06us$3...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> >Press Release Battlecruiser 3000ad FREE to the gaming public
> >
> >For immediate release
> >
>
> 53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
> to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
> bode well for DLing something that i 53 MB. Took me a week to DL the AOE
> demo, the damn thing kept on shorting out...
>
> P.S. Anyone in Cleveland know of a fast, ~$20 a month local ISP? Cause I am
> getting pissed at my current one.
Typhon
Being a Weird Al fan, I've gotta say this is the funniest BC3K thing for
eons! (If you don't count finally just giving the damn thing away for
free!)
Thanks!
Riboflavin wrote in message <6c4mbs$8...@camel15.mindspring.com>...
>In honor of the latest BC3K development (probably one of the few ways for
>Derek to get much interest in 2.0), I have composed a song for Derek Smart.
>This should truly be the theme song for this latest BC3K gimmick.
>
>Etc.
anonymous
Derek Smart wrote in message <6c4if9$q...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>Read it again.
>
Heh - once was enough! My point was (and is) that the industry as we know it
has been around a lot longer than you have...
Other than that, congrats on the games "re-release". A canny move. If
nothing else, one must admire your persistance...
Pat Lundrigan
Brian Short wrote in message <34E56582...@hotmail.com>...
>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
Oh, no, not again!
>Brian Short
>bds...@hotmail.com
>
>Derek Smart wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Derek Smart, Ph.D.
>> Designer/Lead Developer
>> Battlecruiser:3000AD
>>
>
>
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Pat Lundrigan
Day 431 BC3K Ver 1.1 Held Hostage
BC3K fiction at:
http://members.aol.com/fthx/bc3k/ABattleCruiserNamedDesire
//////////////////////////
>
rotting corpse
Saboty Talon wrote:
>
> > >53 MB? wow. Nice gesture and all, but how soon can we expect the print mags
> > >to carry it? Cause my 28.8 coupled with a ISP that gets unhappy often don't
> >
> > space.
> >
>
> Looks like I'll be waiting for the disk also. I just spent 5 damn hours
> downloading it from the Active Worlds server (the only one that would respond)
> and not ONE SINGLE FILE MATCHED the size it was supposed to be. Ended up with a
> broken ZIP file that ended up 42 megs after trying to pkfix it.
> You'd think maybe one or two files would have to be re-downloaded, but every
> damn one?!?!?! I guess it's a good thing the game is free, cause if I paid
> money for this kind of crap I'd be a little upset.
Derek said there is a program you can get to start downloading
again from where you left off. I forget what it was called...
rotting corpse
Jimmy Chan wrote:
>
> Iron Parrot" JIIM (par...@thenest.org) wrote:
> :#Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> did say:
>
> :#>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
> :#Don't start this again, please.
>
> always come up because he doesn't have a PhD if it can't be verified.
>
> ==============================ji...@hawaii.edu===============================
Jimmy, for crying out loud, he just gave away his game to everyone
and you are bringing this crap up again? Can't you just shut up for a
while?
Noman
rotting corpse wrote:
> Derek said there is a program you can get to start downloading
> again from where you left off. I forget what it was called...
This "Getright" program is really amazing.....
I was waiting for this kind of FTP utility for a long
time. I have to thank Derek for two things...
1) Releasing BC3K for free
2) Mentioning this "Getright" program....
Thank you, Derek.
--
Noman
Noman
Nosferatu wrote:
>
>
> That's what I'm talking about in my previous post, but BC TEL calls it
> ADSL. My friends getting it next week and he did have to buy an
> ethernet card to use it.
> --
No, ADSL is different.... DSL technology has been
around for about 10 years.....
Consumer DSL (or CDSL) is a way of using a DSL technology
on the existing telephone setup, without >any< installation
at end user's home. It'll cost you a lot less than ADSL,
but the data rate 'll be lower too. (That is, if you
consider 1 - 1.5 meg bit/sec... a low rate .. heh)
All you'll need is a CDSL modem, that'd go in place
of your regular modem. You can consider, CDSL a
consumer friendly version of DSL..
Regards
--
Noman
rotting corpse
Jimmy Chan wrote:
>
> Derek Smart (dsm...@pobox.com) wrote:
> :#On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:02 -0700, Brian Short <bds...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> :#>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
>
> Now try answering where you received it from. You claim it is in computer
> science but don't say where you received it from means it isn't verifiable,
> and it doesn't exist.
>
have you downloaded the game yet? you are getting off subject.
eric olsen
I'm sorry to hear about your opinion.
Thank goodness it only took me 3.5 minutes to download.
(I'm going to miss this T1 when I graduate)
Lost Dragon wrote:
> >Try running the BC3K.BAT file. Or, if you read further down in the
> >instructions it tells you what you need to type in to skip the CD check.
>
> Yah, I finally got it to work. Ahem.. I can see why it got slammed.
>
> The user interface needs a lot of work. When I was reading screens of
> text (in BC3K) the mouse cursor would leave "droppings" all over the
> place (I'm using a real MS Mouse - there shouldn't be any problems).
>
> Graphics were ok.
>
> I can see the concept that's at work. I can see where the game could
> be neat. I can see that it's an extremely complex offering.. I can
> also see that it lacks polish.
>
> I'm glad that I didn't pay for it ;).
>
> /| .oo__. .-----.=- Lost Dragon -=.-----. U
> { \| ,-'' | _O_ |==- Dungeon Bane: A New Shareware CRPG -==| _O_ | D
> `,_/'(_)\_ | | |===-- http://www.cris.com/~lostdrgn/ --===| | | I
> <...{_)_)_''`-----`=====-- Currently in Development --====='-----' C
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Eric Olsen
eol...@leland.stanford.edu Phone:(650) 723-0256
Stanford University
Stuart Park
Derek Smart (dsm...@pobox.com) wrote:
> The FREE version of the game will be available in 11 file segments from the
> 3000AD web site as well as several on-line sites that have agreed to host the
> files for their readers. Derek has also offered gaming publications the option
> to carry it on their CD issues.
Does that include PC Gamer? :)
--
"If only he used his talent for niceness, instead of evil"
- Get Smart
Stuart Park
E-Mail: stuart @ banana.psd.com.au Melbourne, Australia
Jeroen v Drongelen
Ok, the game's free now. I spent 25$ on it last december, but ok.. :(
Derek, now the game's free, there's not really a need for the CD-check
anymore, can you (or anyone) make a crack, so I can play at work too?
;-) Or do I have to download the game and throw away the CD?
Is the free version exectly the same as the CD I have (patched to d7)?
Derek Smart
On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:12:41 -0600, lost...@cris.com (Lost Dragon) wrote:
>>>What is your Ph. D. in? Just curious.
>
>Hmm. Even *after* I edited the .ini file the game still asks for a
>CD.
>
>It loads up, starts playing some music, then tells me to insert my CD
>in the D drive (which is my HD).
>
>I must have missed something.. I installed to D:\bc3k
>
>No, I didn't put a : after the d in the ini file..
>
>Actually, I copied/pasted the example right out of the readme.txt into
>the ini file since the example was the same directory that I happened
>to install to on my HD.
>
>Yes, I properly configured my sound hardware with setup.
>
>So what am I missing?
>
>::blank look::
I posted something about this in the GNN section of my website. You must either
use the BC3K.BAT file that came in MAKEBC3K.ZIP or use /n /d1 to run the game.
Also, if the 'cdrom=' parameter in BC3000AD.INI is pointing to your cd-rom,
you MUST have a cdrom, any cdrom, in the drive. If you point it to your hard
disk, ie CDROM=C then it will think the hard drive is the cd-rom
Hope this helps
Derek Smart, Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
Battlecruiser:3000AD
ICQ : 158435