Thrown off 3000ad forums, was the only honest guy there!
me
necessary to protect his latest revision of his game...you know the same
game he's repackaged four times.
I said on his 'state-controlled' forum that I thought that was a
bone-headed decision, and that I would keep my money. That was too much
honesty for Derek and away I went. Which was fine, he has waaay too much
control over every aspect thata his product is enjoyed. He claims ownership
of any fan-fiction written, he's the absolute head of the multiplayer
community, where players have to join 'fleets' in order to have access to
multiplayer servers. If he doesnt like something a player does on one of
'his' servers he orders the 'fleet commander' to boot him.
Ive always seen these overly-controlling, pschyo tendencies that Ive
always read about him, but tried to overlook for whatever reason, I just
cant anymore. Ive seen him break promise after promise, claim bugs were
fixed when they werent, move features into the next version saying they were
never planned even though they were shown on the game box.
I totally see why his forum underlings are labeled Toadies, they call
him Boss, Jesus what happened to these guys spine?
I had an idea back when Derek claimed BCM would still have
multiplayer, that I would setup my own web page and game server. Call it
something like "Free-cruiser: Because space is too big for bullshit".
Bill Huffman
disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This is a personality disorder
that I like to refer to as the asshole personality disorder. Most any NPD
individual is probably an asshole. Someone that used to work with me, I
believe, has the same disorder. The sad part of that story is that she is
turning her two little boys into future NPD's. For example, she told me that
she had beaten her sixth grader because he had the audacity to request
permission to pick out his own clothes to wear each morning before school.
When I told her that I thought that he just wanted to grow up and that part
of growing up was deciding what to wear every day, she acted totally stunned
because she had apparently assumed that he had made his request just to
hassle her. She's told me similar stories like her kids asking to pick out
their own food at a fast food restaurant and them having to be beaten for
their audacity. Mr. Fraudman is probably turning his own kid into a future
pathetic human being, another little asshole in his own image.
Isn't that right Derek Smart? You were beaten as a kid, beaten into being a
pathetic individual with NPD? You now are probably busy passing on your
disorder to your own defenseless little kid?
"me" <m...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:txXUe.633$YI6.308@trnddc05...
Lemming
Being part of GALCOM isn't just playing a game - it's a way of life.
Only Real Men of the Right Stuff are up to it. If you can't take
orders, sonny, then there is no place in GALCOM for you. Stop
whining, and fuck off.
Lemming
--
Derek Smart's PR in waiting
Xan
> to protect his latest revision of his game...you know the same game he's
> repackaged four times.
Activation?! What's it called this time? Batalcruzer Vista? =D
// Xan, Ph.D.
// I worship His Shadow.
Bill Huffman
"Lemming" <thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2sa9i1toigeftkp0o...@4ax.com...
I hope that it works out for you Mr. Lemming.
me
"Lemming" <thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<2sa9i1toigeftkp0o...@4ax.com>...
> Being part of GALCOM isn't just playing a game - it's a way of life.
> Only Real Men of the Right Stuff are up to it. If you can't take
> orders, sonny, then there is no place in GALCOM for you. Stop
> whining, and fuck off.
Real Men of the Right Stuff huh??
Ok keep telling yourself that.
Now quickly run back to the 3000ad board and post to derek, because PM'ing
him without his permission will anger him, and tell all you see that you
defended derek's honor and the whole site. Tell them that Im one of the
dim-witted masses who live in ignorance of derek's glory,that I certainly
wasn't bright enough to understand such a complex game(s) as what derek
makes, nevermind that Ive run BCMG and UC servers in the past that anyone
could join.
I know I know, how dare me directly tell derek he was wrong.
Lemming
Do you have ANY idea who you are talking to? I thought not.
It's people like you who give real developers like Derek Smart a bad
name. All he's trying to do is create genuine simulation - not some
namby-pamby game people like you are so used to - but a GENUINE
simulation of a highly complex, no-holds-barred war in space.
Of course you have to follow orders. Of course you have to accede to
authority. When you enter the game, you are a mere crewman; if you
work hard, you will find yourself rising through the ranks - as those
of us who have done the time and followed orders have done.
But people like you just don't "get it". You are too wrapped up in
your own little real-life world to understand that there is more to
life than paying the mortgage and feeding the kids. There is a war to
be fought, and every moment you spend on those petty real-world
affairs takes you away from the action; deprives OUR space navy of a
fighter. But don't you worry your icke head about that; after all,
you are only an ensign, and not a good one at that.
But if you think that it's OK to criticise someone who might just be
the world's premier black games developer, just because you aren't up
to scratch in the virtual universe that is GALCOM, then I can only
say: I pity you.
déjà plonké
Lemming
--
Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
Jim Vieira
> But if you think that it's OK to criticise someone who might just be
> the world's premier black games developer, just because you aren't up
> to scratch in the virtual universe that is GALCOM, then I can only
> say: I pity you.
What flavor KoolAide does Mr. Smart make you drink?
good God man. I've not seen someone so brainwashed and wrapped
up in the fanboy blanket in a long, long time. The original poster,
and Bill, made excellent and accurate posts about Mr. Smart's rude,
childish and narcissistic behavior. You have to be blind not to see
it for yourself.
The game may be improving, but Mr. Smart is a horses ass, and
anyone with half a brain can see that. So my question to you is,
what happened to the other half of your brain?
me
>
> But people like you just don't "get it". You are too wrapped up in
> your own little real-life world to understand that there is more to
> life than paying the mortgage and feeding the kids. There is a war to
> be fought, and every moment you spend on those petty real-world
> affairs takes you away from the action; deprives OUR space navy of a
> fighter. But don't you worry your icke head about that; after all,
> you are only an ensign, and not a good one at that.
>
> But if you think that it's OK to criticise someone who might just be
> the world's premier black games developer, just because you aren't up
> to scratch in the virtual universe that is GALCOM, then I can only
> say: I pity you.
>
> déjà plonké
>
> Lemming
> --
> Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
Are you listening to yourself?
Please understand that I dont give a damn who you are, or claim to be.
But life is too short for bullshit and Ive had my fill of it from derek's
antics. And if you think its not OK to criticise a game developer then it is
you who should be pitied.
He's not Jesus, he's a programmer who keeps releasing the same game over and
over with an occasional face lift. But people have caught on and each title
receives less press and notice than the one before it. The game, and he are
a non-issue.
Lemming
Sometimes I despair of what people have become. If you can't see the
GOOD that Derek Smart is doing, then you need the other half of your
brain removed, and flushed down the toilet like the first half.
Why can't you people see what is occurring? There is a WAR going on,
and all you can do is whinge about whether asteroids are intelligent,
or the stars are octagonal or dodecahedral; don't be such fools - what
is important is that the enemy are encroaching on our systems; the
threat is not just a fantasy - it's immediate; it's here, and it's
here now.
BUt that's OK. Sit on your backside. Let the Real Men do the job;
you probably aren't up to it anyway. We'll win the war without you.
I'll post you a white feather when I get home.
Lemming
I claim to be nothing, I *am* nothing, compared to Derek Smart. It is
in His Universe that mortals like me fight, and die, to keep people
like you safe. Think about that for a moment - you sit by the
fireside, warm and comfortable, while others do the fighting for you.
Doesn't that make you feel ashamed?
Ensign, it is not too late - the Supreme Commander is all-forgiving;
he knows that sometimes egos - even small egos like yours - sometimes
get in the way of reason. Go back to Him, explain that you
momentarily lost your way, but that you are now more humble, and ready
to take on The Enemy with as much spunk and gusto as any other
crewman. I am sure that in His magnificence He will permit you to
crew a fighter on one of the capital ships around Sol.
Lemming
wrote:
Thus far it is working out far better than I ever dreamed. Thank you
for your concern, Mr. Huffness.
Can I interest you in joining one of the fleets that are even now
orbiting Sol awaiting new recruits?
Lemming
--
Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
me
Damn Lemming, Im starting to like you. :)
Lemming
>Haha
>Damn Lemming, Im starting to like you. :)
Learn to quote, moron.
Lemming
--
Derk Smart's PR in waiting.
Xan
> Learn to quote, moron.
*BING*
// Xan, Ph.D.
// You are obsolete.
Lemming
>"Lemming" <thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:lkk9i1hri01ul3ncg...@4ax.com...
>> Learn to quote, moron.
>
>*BING*
déjà plonké
Lemming
--
Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
Xan
> déjà plonké
Your puny 8-bit chars cannot harNO CARRIER
Lemming
So die all those who oppose GALCOM.
Who's next?
Bill Huffman
Sorry, but it's not my cup of tea. However, I'll suck up to the dog and let
him pee on me so that I'll get into the right state of mind and be on the
same plane as the other Galcom fleet members.
Bill Huffman
"Jim Vieira" <Whipl...@wiDOT.rrDOT.com> wrote in message
news:h24Ve.28127$mb4....@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
Jim, that's the funniest post that I've read in a long time. Great job!!!
Bill Huffman
"me" <m...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:O54Ve.4838$Hs6.3634@trnddc07...
>
> >
> > But people like you just don't "get it". You are too wrapped up in
> > your own little real-life world to understand that there is more to
> > life than paying the mortgage and feeding the kids. There is a war to
> > be fought, and every moment you spend on those petty real-world
> > affairs takes you away from the action; deprives OUR space navy of a
> > fighter. But don't you worry your icke head about that; after all,
> > you are only an ensign, and not a good one at that.
> >
> > But if you think that it's OK to criticise someone who might just be
> > the world's premier black games developer, just because you aren't up
> > to scratch in the virtual universe that is GALCOM, then I can only
> > say: I pity you.
> >
> > déjà plonké
> >
> > Lemming
> > --
> > Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
>
> Are you listening to yourself?
> Please understand that I dont give a damn who you are, or claim to be.
> But life is too short for bullshit and Ive had my fill of it from derek's
> antics. And if you think its not OK to criticise a game developer then it
is
> you who should be pitied.
(This looks like the perfect spot to stick in the statement about if you
think that you can write a better game then you can complain.)
> He's not Jesus, he's a programmer who keeps releasing the same game over
and
> over with an occasional face lift. But people have caught on and each
title
> receives less press and notice than the one before it. The game, and he
are
> a non-issue.
Mr. Lemming, I applaud you!!!
br d
Bret Ripley
Lemming: you are my hero. I'm going to change the name of all my cats to
"Lemming". Then, I'm going to buy 21 stars on staregistry.com and name
them all "Lemming".
I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't answer the question about the flavor
of the KoolAid, but I assume you are too busy "fighting the good fight" to
be bothered with such trivialities. Having said that: it's grape, isn't
it? I hope so: I've already ordered a case.
Bret
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wrote:
>
>Lemming: you are my hero. I'm going to change the name of all my cats to
>"Lemming". Then, I'm going to buy 21 stars on staregistry.com and name
>them all "Lemming".
>
>I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't answer the question about the flavor
>of the KoolAid, but I assume you are too busy "fighting the good fight" to
>be bothered with such trivialities. Having said that: it's grape, isn't
>it? I hope so: I've already ordered a case.
>
>Bret
Bret, you are such a suck-up. I just named a pair of underwear after
Lem and he was damn lucky to get that!
Allan
Lemming
Hear, hear!
Lemming
--
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.
Lemming
Let's not go overboard. I am but a simple matelo, fighting in
GALCOM's glorious navy, to repel the enemy who seek to destroy us and
our way of life. I am certainly not worthy of such praise. Save your
accolades for our leader, Derek Smart; He who we know as "Supreme
Commander."
>I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't answer the question about the flavor
>of the KoolAid, but I assume you are too busy "fighting the good fight" to
>be bothered with such trivialities. Having said that: it's grape, isn't
>it? I hope so: I've already ordered a case.
Grape is a fine armament; the ships of yore used it to good effect to
disable the enemy, tearing down their sails and cleaning the foul
Spanish scum from the decks. Nowadays, of course, our weaponry is
much more sophisticated. But yes: grape is fine.
Lemming
Tempt me not with your underwear, HARLOT!!!!!
Kegs
the is Matelot, FOOL, you are hereby banned for being a know-nothing
illiterate northern cretin ;)
>>I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't answer the question about the flavor
>>of the KoolAid, but I assume you are too busy "fighting the good fight" to
>>be bothered with such trivialities. Having said that: it's grape, isn't
>>it? I hope so: I've already ordered a case.
>
> Grape is a fine armament; the ships of yore used it to good effect to
> disable the enemy, tearing down their sails and cleaning the foul
> Spanish scum from the decks. Nowadays, of course, our weaponry is
> much more sophisticated. But yes: grape is fine.
>
> Lemming
> --
> Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
I was hitchhiking the other day, and a hearse stopped. I said,
"No thanks - I'm not going that far." (Steven Wright)
Allan Parent
You silver-tongued devil.
Allan
Lemming
wrote:
I may be an know-nothing illiterate Northern cretin, and I may have
mistyped matelot, but at least my sentences are grammatical.
So I'll see your Matelot and raise you a "the is".
>>>I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't answer the question about the flavor
>>>of the KoolAid, but I assume you are too busy "fighting the good fight" to
>>>be bothered with such trivialities. Having said that: it's grape, isn't
>>>it? I hope so: I've already ordered a case.
>>
>> Grape is a fine armament; the ships of yore used it to good effect to
>> disable the enemy, tearing down their sails and cleaning the foul
>> Spanish scum from the decks. Nowadays, of course, our weaponry is
>> much more sophisticated. But yes: grape is fine.
>>
>> Lemming
>> --
>> Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
And please get a newsreader that understands signature delimiters.
It's frustrating having to edit them out all the time because idiots
like you choose to use broken software.
Kegs
Its the compulsory (deliberate) mistake that should be in any spelling
flame ;)
Well that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"...And so it begins." (Amb. Kosh, B5 "Chrysalis")
Kegs
>>> Lemming
>>> --
>>> Derek Smart's PR in waiting.
>
> And please get a newsreader that understands signature delimiters.
> It's frustrating having to edit them out all the time because idiots
> like you choose to use broken software.
Emacs gnus understands them fine, it just doesn't bother autostripping
them, and I haven't got around to writing the lisp to do it myself.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"Never play cards with a man called Doc. Never eat at a place called Mom's.
Never sleep with a woman whose troubles are worse than your own." Nelson Algren
Valiant
poster there and I haven't seen you.
Commander Valiant
Fleet Overlord
GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Bill Huffman
"Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:km6gi1duts1tr0imo...@4ax.com...
> Hi Lemming. What is your user name over at 3000AD? I'm a regular
> poster there and I haven't seen you.
>
> Commander Valiant
> Fleet Overlord
> GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Some information must be kept confidential.
Bret Ripley
Agreed. I'm pretty sure I can't be trusted with that information.
Bret
Lemming
Your security clearance is not yet of a sufficient level for me to
reveal that information.
And please don't top-post.
Valiant
Allan Parent
Back in the old days (BC3000) the SC was inundated with so much fan
mail and forum posts that it became very tedious for him to wade
through a thread when everyone was top posting. He soon declared that
top posters would be banned. We do not top post here as a courtesy to
him.
Allan
Bill Huffman
"Allan Parent" <all...@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message
news:4rlii1t8uvnjut7fi...@4ax.com...
It has now become the custom to bottom post.
Valiant
Anything else I should know?
Commander Valiant
Fleet Overlord
GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:31:27 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@san.rr.com>
wrote:
>
Nats
this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
joke.
Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
newsgroup for ages as well.
Nats
"Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
Bret Ripley
> You have your own 'customs' in this group?
Actually, bottom-posting is standard for Usenet.
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html
> How quaint.
Very likely, yes.
> Anything else I should know?
Very likely, yes.
Bret
Kegs
> Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
> this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
> BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
> newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
> joke.
Oh do, fuck off stan, and go back to your ridiculous little
"web architecture" job, or at least learn how to post.
On the other habd, you could keep posting, I do find you amusing.
> Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
> newsgroup for ages as well.
> "Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
>> You have your own 'customs' in this group? How quaint.
>> Anything else I should know?
It isn't just a local "quaint custom", it is a usenet wide thing,
do try to keep up.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it." Woody Allen
Bret Ripley
Nigel! How are you doing, you old so-and-so?
> Yes you should know they're all dickheads.
Damn straight.
> And also you should know that
> this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever
That's not quite true. I seem to recall this one thread back in '98 . . .
or was it '99? Anyway, I'm almost certain it had something to do with
space-sims.
> (unless you count BC3000 flame posts).
Oh. Well, nevermind then.
> I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
> newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
> joke.
Indeed. It was nearly a joke-sim.
> Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
> newsgroup for ages as well.
That's only because you stopped using your 'web architect' sig.
> Nats
>
>
> "Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
>> You have your own 'customs' in this group?
Yep, not only do we have our own 'Customs', we also have our own
'Immigration' and 'Border Protection.' Do you have anything to declare?
Bret
Bret Ripley
> "Nats" <nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
>> this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
>> BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
>> newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
>> joke.
>
> Oh do, fuck off stan, and go back to your ridiculous little
> "web architecture" job, or at least learn how to post.
>
> On the other habd, you could keep posting, I do find you amusing.
>
>> Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
>> newsgroup for ages as well.
>
>> "Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
>>> You have your own 'customs' in this group? How quaint.
>>> Anything else I should know?
>
> It isn't just a local "quaint custom", it is a usenet wide thing,
> do try to keep up.
Good lord, James. My responses were almost identical to yours, but it took
me 2 posts to your 1. I cannot compete with that sort of efficiency.
Please excuse me while I stare uneasily into the jaws of obsolescence.
Bret
Valiant
wrote:
>"Nats" <nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
>> this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
>> BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
>> newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
>> joke.
>
>Oh do, fuck off stan, and go back to your ridiculous little
>"web architecture" job, or at least learn how to post.
>
>On the other habd, you could keep posting, I do find you amusing.
>
>> Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
>> newsgroup for ages as well.
>
>> "Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
>>> You have your own 'customs' in this group? How quaint.
>>> Anything else I should know?
>
>It isn't just a local "quaint custom", it is a usenet wide thing,
>do try to keep up.
Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
are just "quaint".
Kegs
Nope, just feeling bored and obstreperous today, something about stan
annoys me quite unreasonably. ;)
However, as you have kept up, welcome to the witterboard.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"It is impossible to experience one's death objectively and still carry a
tune." Woody Allen
Bret Ripley
Oh, don't let Kegs bother you: somethimes he gets 'crotchety', which is
just another way to spell 'English'.
> Commander Valiant
> Fleet Overlord
> GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
So, what's it like being a Fleet Overlord? Are the hours good?
Bret
Kegs
Its a gift. ;)
Don't think of it as obsolescence, think of it as having a built in
redundant failover. ;)
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"Never trust the advice of a man in difficulties." Aesop
Kegs
I prefer "British", tyvm.
>> Commander Valiant
>> Fleet Overlord
>> GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>
> So, what's it like being a Fleet Overlord? Are the hours good?
They may be, but I bet the actual minutes are lousy.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?
Valiant
wrote:
Lol! I am not a "Fleet Overlord". I belong to a Fleet called Overlord.
We take on other Fleets in the BC universe. I know there is a lot of
negative comment about Derek Smarts games but for fans of space
simulations it really is worth checking out.
Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
structure. Once the SC gives you clearance you can jump right in, we
always have servers available.
Bret Ripley
Still, I bet "Fleet Overlord" looks good on a resume nonetheless.
> We take on other Fleets in the BC universe. I know there is a lot of
> negative comment about Derek Smarts games
Yeah, there is some of that, but not as much as you may think (at least,
not about his games, per se). I think you'll find that most of the
criticism has concerned academic fraud, promised game features that were
not delivered, and a history of making hollow legal threats. I'm pretty
sure there may have been something about a freight train, but the details
elude me.
> but for fans of space
> simulations it really is worth checking out.
The concept is intriguing, but from what I've read (both and good and bad)
about the implementation I don't think it's quite my cup of tea. For
example, even fans of the game describe an unintuitive interface resulting
in an unneccesarily large time investment just to learn the controls. I
simply don't have much time to devote to gaming, let alone just learning an
interface. Still, if you enjoy it I think that's just great.
> Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
> sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
> structure. Once the SC gives you clearance
I don't speak for myself, but there are a few of us around here who are
explicitly unwelcome at 3000ad.
> you can jump right in, we always have servers available.
How is MP? Can you save your universe/ship/character? Do you encounter
NPC ships in MP? I'm sure our good Shingen has already described this to
us in great detail, but it's hard to weed out the information from the
Black Sabbath lyrics. (Hi Shin!)
Bret
Bret Ripley
See what I mean?
Bret
Xan
news:dgchsa$ddq$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that this
> newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count BC3000
> flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this newsgroup
> withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a joke.
>
> Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
> newsgroup for ages as well.
Speak of the devil.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// I worship His Shadow.
Xan
news:w3385rmmc671$.5ohgvu7evqn3$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Good lord, James. My responses were almost identical to yours, but it took
> me 2 posts to your 1. I cannot compete with that sort of efficiency.
> Please excuse me while I stare uneasily into the jaws of obsolescence.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// You are obsolete.
Xan
> How is MP? Can you save your universe/ship/character? Do you encounter
> NPC ships in MP? I'm sure our good Shingen has already described this to
> us in great detail, but it's hard to weed out the information from the
> Black Sabbath lyrics. (Hi Shin!)
Kiss the with winter flowers
Turn my day to frozen hours
Lying snowblind in the sun
Will my ice age ever come?
Ahem, sorry. Looks like I caught W32.Sabbath.DB. =D
Bret Ripley
Cool. So now do I get to collect disability pay, or what?
Bret
Xan
> Cool. So now do I get to collect disability pay, or what?
Only after you right-click yourself and select Disable. Please, be responsible.
Bret Ripley
> "Bret Ripley" <rip...@olywa.net> wrote in message
> news:erk9bnyw3pey$.1rhid9jcnjj3l.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Cool. So now do I get to collect disability pay, or what?
>
> Only after you right-click yourself and select Disable.
Bzzzzt -- The correct response was: "the cheque is in the post."
HTH
> Please, be responsible.
I'm pretty sure I'm too old for that.
Bret
Xan
> Bzzzzt -- The correct response was: "the cheque is in the post."
Noooo. The checkbox is on the property page.
> I'm pretty sure I'm too old for that.
Better late than never. =P
Bret Ripley
> "Bret Ripley" <rip...@olywa.net> wrote in message
> news:uwboggcyz7fk$.ki85jfh063in$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Bzzzzt -- The correct response was: "the cheque is in the post."
>
> Noooo. The checkbox is on the property page.
format c: /s
>> I'm pretty sure I'm too old for that.
>
> Better late than never. =P
That's not what my wife says.
Bret
Lemming
>Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
>this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
>BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
>newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
>joke.
>
>Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
>newsgroup for ages as well.
>
>Nats
>
Because it is.
>>Please don't top-post
>why is top-posting bad?
/me waves at Stan.
Aside: That was the "dummy's guide" to top-posting. If you'd like the
"Advanced dummy's guide", Stan, please let me know.
Lemming
--
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.
Lemming
wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:15:18 GMT, Xan wrote:
>
>> "Bret Ripley" <rip...@olywa.net> wrote in message
>> news:erk9bnyw3pey$.1rhid9jcnjj3l.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Cool. So now do I get to collect disability pay, or what?
>>
>> Only after you right-click yourself and select Disable.
>
>Bzzzzt -- The correct response was: "the cheque is in the post."
And no, it doesn't taste of anything.
>HTH
>
>> Please, be responsible.
>
>I'm pretty sure I'm too old for that.
>
>Bret
Lemming
Lemming
>Why shouldn't I top post?
Your security clearance is not yet of a sufficient level for me to
reveal that information.
Lemming
>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>are just "quaint".
Fuck off.
>Commander Valiant
>Fleet Overlord
>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
What a wanker.
m...@home.net
wrote:
No it hasn't
>
>"Allan Parent" <all...@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message
>news:4rlii1t8uvnjut7fi...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:40:04 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Why shouldn't I top post?
>> >
>> >Commander Valiant
>> >Fleet Overlord
>> >GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Back in the old days (BC3000) the SC was inundated with so much fan
>> mail and forum posts that it became very tedious for him to wade
>> through a thread when everyone was top posting. He soon declared that
>> top posters would be banned. We do not top post here as a courtesy to
>> him.
>
>It has now become the custom to bottom post.
>
m...@home.net
<nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
>this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
>BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
>newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
>joke.
>
>Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
>newsgroup for ages as well.
>
>Nats
Your sense of humor sucks!
>
>
>"Valiant" <fv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ipeji1tktsf5as3pl...@4ax.com...
>> You have your own 'customs' in this group? How quaint.
>> Anything else I should know?
>>
Bill Huffman
<m...@home.net> wrote in message
news:nofki1thk9lahrivu...@4ax.com...
I might have to tell the SC on you.
m...@home.net
wrote:
>
><m...@home.net> wrote in message
>news:nofki1thk9lahrivu...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:31:27 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@san.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No it hasn't
>> >
>> >"Allan Parent" <all...@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4rlii1t8uvnjut7fi...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:40:04 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Why shouldn't I top post?
>> >> >
>> >> >Commander Valiant
>> >> >Fleet Overlord
>> >> >GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Back in the old days (BC3000) the SC was inundated with so much fan
>> >> mail and forum posts that it became very tedious for him to wade
>> >> through a thread when everyone was top posting. He soon declared that
>> >> top posters would be banned. We do not top post here as a courtesy to
>> >> him.
>> >
>> >It has now become the custom to bottom post.
>
>
>I might have to tell the SC on you.
>
I don't care. He's my bitch.
Valiant
<thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>are just "quaint".
>
>Fuck off.
You are clearly a cretin Mr Rat. Do you ever say anything valid?
>>Commander Valiant
>>Fleet Overlord
>>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>
>What a wanker.
Yes, I can see that you are.
Bret Ripley
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:37:02 +0100, Lemming
> <thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>>are just "quaint".
>>
>>Fuck off.
>
> You are clearly a cretin Mr Rat. Do you ever say anything valid?
And if he did, how would we know?
>>>Commander Valiant
>>>Fleet Overlord
>>>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>>
>>What a wanker.
>
> Yes, I can see that you are.
Give the man his due: at least he's not "quaint".
> Commander Valiant
> Fleet Overlord
> GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Rear Private Theodred
12th Tactical Star Battalion-thingy, Logistics and Delivery
Venusion Medal O'Valour w/Clusters, Caramel, & Chocolate Sprinkles
GCV Intimate Pursuasion (1994 Skoda)
Valiant
wrote:
Well, it's in my System Specs over at 3000AD, which in effect, is my
resume. :-)
>
>> We take on other Fleets in the BC universe. I know there is a lot of
>> negative comment about Derek Smarts games
>
>Yeah, there is some of that, but not as much as you may think (at least,
>not about his games, per se). I think you'll find that most of the
>criticism has concerned academic fraud, promised game features that were
>not delivered, and a history of making hollow legal threats. I'm pretty
>sure there may have been something about a freight train, but the details
>elude me.
I think there's been an awful lot of unfair comments aimed at Derek
Smart, I don't fully understand the issues with his education but I
can tell you one thing, anyone who can create an entire space
simulation like he has is far from stupid!
>
>> but for fans of space
>> simulations it really is worth checking out.
>
>The concept is intriguing, but from what I've read (both and good and bad)
>about the implementation I don't think it's quite my cup of tea. For
>example, even fans of the game describe an unintuitive interface resulting
>in an unneccesarily large time investment just to learn the controls. I
>simply don't have much time to devote to gaming, let alone just learning an
>interface. Still, if you enjoy it I think that's just great.
Thank you Bret. I do sympathise with those people who have trouble
coming to terms with the interface, a little more effort is all that's
really needed though. I think many gamers in these days of consols are
just too lazy to put in the time.
>
>> Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
>> sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
>> structure. Once the SC gives you clearance
>
>I don't speak for myself, but there are a few of us around here who are
>explicitly unwelcome at 3000ad.
Well, there are obviously people here who don't have the decency to
communicate properly with someone from "over there", so I presume it
all evens out.
>
>> you can jump right in, we always have servers available.
>
>How is MP? Can you save your universe/ship/character? Do you encounter
>NPC ships in MP? I'm sure our good Shingen has already described this to
>us in great detail, but it's hard to weed out the information from the
>Black Sabbath lyrics. (Hi Shin!)
>
>Bret
Oh yes, I've seen Shingen around, I believe he's also one of the "not
welcomes" at the moment. Currently you can't save over from one game
to another, but this is a promised feature, and yes, NPC ships are
present. It's highly configurable to suit most scenarios anyway.
Memnoch
>You have your own 'customs' in this group? How quaint.
>Anything else I should know?
>
>Commander Valiant
>Fleet Overlord
>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Now that's funny on so many levels considering where you hang out.
Memnoch
<thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>are just "quaint".
>
>Fuck off.
>
>>Commander Valiant
>>Fleet Overlord
>>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>
>What a wanker.
More succinct thab me but that was where I was coming from.
Memnoch
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:37:02 +0100, Lemming
><thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>>are just "quaint".
>>
>>Fuck off.
>
>You are clearly a cretin Mr Rat. Do you ever say anything valid?
I think the problem may be that in Dereks forum you have been shielded from
the realities of online life where people other than Derek can be rude to you
and get away with it and you are actually allowed to have your own thoughts
and opinions, and of course, most shockingly of all, are allowed to voice them
without getting banned if Derek doesn't agree. Or perhaps that is a side of
him you have never seen, although I doubt it, but you just decide to turn a
blind eye to it, tug your forelock, and carry on. You can admire the game he
created all you like but you can hardly admire the man.
Valiant
<mem...@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:58:18 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:37:02 +0100, Lemming
>><thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>>>are just "quaint".
>>>
>>>Fuck off.
>>
>>You are clearly a cretin Mr Rat. Do you ever say anything valid?
>
>I think the problem may be that in Dereks forum you have been shielded from
>the realities of online life where people other than Derek can be rude to you
>and get away with it and you are actually allowed to have your own thoughts
>and opinions, and of course, most shockingly of all, are allowed to voice them
>without getting banned if Derek doesn't agree. Or perhaps that is a side of
>him you have never seen, although I doubt it, but you just decide to turn a
>blind eye to it, tug your forelock, and carry on. You can admire the game he
>created all you like but you can hardly admire the man.
I don't have a problem with Derek running a tight ship. If you want to
take part on his forums you have to follow his rules. I suppose you're
a "rebel" Memnoch, and that you "plough your own furrow", all fine and
good if you don't mind disorder and chaos. Or perhaps you just like to
act independent on the internet and do your own "forelock tugging" to
your boss in RL.
Memnoch
I think there is a fairly large difference between running a tight ship and
what Derek does on his forum. For example, would you suggest that Hitler and
Stalin ran a tight ship? I'm not comparing what those two did in any way per
se to what Derek does but as far as megalomaniac control freak paranoics
perhaps he comes a close third? ;-)
Nats
"Lemming" <thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8a4ki1pt5sumjjicg...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:26:02 +0100, "Nats"
> <nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Yes you should know they're all dickheads. And also you should know that
>>this newsgroup has no space sim topics on it ... ever (unless you count
>>BC3000 flame posts). I wonder if it would be possible to apply to get this
>>newsgroup withdrawn - its such a waste of 'space'? Ha that was almost a
>>joke.
>>
>>Which coincidentally is also the funniest thing that's been said on this
>>newsgroup for ages as well.
>>
>>Nats
>>
>
> Because it is.
>
>>>Please don't top-post
>
>>why is top-posting bad?
There is one thing that is worse than top posters.
Nats
Bret Ripley
I don't think anyone thinks Smart is stupid. I think most people lean
towards a medical explanation.
>>> but for fans of space
>>> simulations it really is worth checking out.
>>
>>The concept is intriguing, but from what I've read (both and good and bad)
>>about the implementation I don't think it's quite my cup of tea. For
>>example, even fans of the game describe an unintuitive interface resulting
>>in an unneccesarily large time investment just to learn the controls. I
>>simply don't have much time to devote to gaming, let alone just learning an
>>interface. Still, if you enjoy it I think that's just great.
>
> Thank you Bret.
Hey, no problem, Val.
> I do sympathise with those people who have trouble
> coming to terms with the interface, a little more effort is all that's
> really needed though. I think many gamers in these days of consols are
> just too lazy to put in the time.
Well, I'm not a console gamer and I don't think I'm lazy. In my judgement,
I don't think it would be worthwhile to spend what little gaming time I
have learning an interface for a sim that I won't have much time to play
around with anyway. Moreover, based on player reviews I'm not at all
certain I would enjoy the game very much even if I did have the time.
>>> Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
>>> sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
>>> structure. Once the SC gives you clearance
>>
>>I don't speak for myself, but there are a few of us around here who are
>>explicitly unwelcome at 3000ad.
>
> Well, there are obviously people here who don't have the decency to
> communicate properly with someone from "over there", so I presume it
> all evens out.
>
>>
>>> you can jump right in, we always have servers available.
>>
>>How is MP? Can you save your universe/ship/character? Do you encounter
>>NPC ships in MP? I'm sure our good Shingen has already described this to
>>us in great detail, but it's hard to weed out the information from the
>>Black Sabbath lyrics. (Hi Shin!)
>>
>>Bret
>
> Oh yes, I've seen Shingen around, I believe he's also one of the "not
> welcomes" at the moment.
As far as it goes, that seems to be consistent with his side of the story.
> Currently you can't save over from one game
> to another, but this is a promised feature, and yes, NPC ships are
> present. It's highly configurable to suit most scenarios anyway.
Cool. I'm glad he is finding ways to implement some of those long-promised
features.
As I said: the concept is intriguing.
Bret
Xan
> I don't think anyone thinks Smart is stupid.
I certainly do.
> I think most people lean
> towards a medical explanation.
His stupidity and assholericity are two different things, dear Bret.
Bret Ripley
> "Bret Ripley" <rip...@olywa.net> wrote in message
> news:1nvqupmopbbu6$.1p8c8nuseepib.dlg@40tude.net...
>> I don't think anyone thinks Smart is stupid.
>
> I certainly do.
Well of course *you* do. "Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle,
Socrates? Morons."
>> I think most people lean
>> towards a medical explanation.
>
> His stupidity and assholericity
Added to my dictionary.
> are two different things, dear Bret.
If I ever need a demonstration that intelligence and inelegance are
distinct properties, may I feel free to give you a call?
Bret
Xan
> Well of course *you* do. "Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle,
> Socrates? Morons."
Bwahaha. Not that I wouldn put Dewey in the same boat as those guys. =P
> If I ever need a demonstration that intelligence and inelegance are
> distinct properties, may I feel free to give you a call?
Feel free all you want, but don't be surprised when you get the phone bill. =D
Lemming
<nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>There is one thing that is worse than top posters:
>
>Nats
Well said. I agree.
Lemming
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:37:02 +0100, Lemming
><thiswil...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Valiant <fv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well I must apologise for not keeping up then Kegs. Is it also "a
>>>usenet wide thing" to use profanity on a public forum? Or perhaps you
>>>are just "quaint".
>>
>>Fuck off.
>
>You are clearly a cretin Mr Rat. Do you ever say anything valid?
Fuck off.
>>>Commander Valiant
>>>Fleet Overlord
>>>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
>>
>>What a wanker.
>
>Yes, I can see that you are.
Fuck off.
>Commander Valiant
>Fleet Overlord
>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Fuck off.
rlsuth
quoting 25 pages of bullshit, to say something totally unrelated to the
35000 words they've quoted.
<m...@home.net> wrote in message
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Goomich
news:SsidneNyi5D...@comcast.com:
> Top posting is much easier to read,
A: Because it upsets the natural flow of reading. |
Q: Why is top posting so rude?
A: Top posting.
Q: What is most rude in Usenet?
--
Pozdrawiam
Krzysztof "Goomich" Ferenc
goo...@usun.to.wp.pl UIN: 6750153
The Death Star Project was our last, best hope for peace...
Nats
history of replies to a certain topic in each message and someone new wants
to read through all of them in succession. But I think you will find that
most people dont quote more than the last one or two replies anyway on
newsgroups so it doesnt make sense to want to read a newsgroup like you
would a book. Also the fact that you are quoting an article makes it
prefectly reasonable to post your reply above - you would do the same in a
magazine written reply or a footnote in a book etc. I personally dont think
it is wrong at all to top post - in fact I think it actually makes it much
easier to read through several messages quickly than bottom posting does. I
also find that I do not want to read through loads of history - but if I do
I will cycle through the individual postings rather than relying on the last
post to have kept me up to date with the entire history of the thread (which
is obviously extremely unlikely to happen).
So I rest my case. Top posting make more sense in a newsgroup and I
personally prefer both doing it and reading it that way.
Thanks for listening.
Nats
"Goomich" <goo...@usun.to.wp.pl> wrote in message
news:Xns96D44916D2A01...@127.0.0.1...
John Secker
<nst...@nstutt.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>The benefit of bottom posting only would apply if you ever had the entire
>history of replies to a certain topic in each message and someone new wants
>to read through all of them in succession. But I think you will find that
>most people dont quote more than the last one or two replies anyway on
>newsgroups so it doesnt make sense to want to read a newsgroup like you
>would a book. Also the fact that you are quoting an article makes it
>prefectly reasonable to post your reply above - you would do the same in a
>magazine written reply or a footnote in a book etc. I personally dont think
>it is wrong at all to top post - in fact I think it actually makes it much
>easier to read through several messages quickly than bottom posting does. I
>also find that I do not want to read through loads of history - but if I do
>I will cycle through the individual postings rather than relying on the last
>post to have kept me up to date with the entire history of the thread (which
>is obviously extremely unlikely to happen).
>
>So I rest my case. Top posting make more sense in a newsgroup and I
>personally prefer both doing it and reading it that way.
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>Nats
>
different points in a long message?
--
John Secker
Nats
message if it suits my purpose. I just dont have any hang ups about it
either way.
Nats
"John Secker" <jo...@secker.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Bret Ripley
> "John Secker" <jo...@secker.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dCWBPjQU...@secker.demon.co.uk...
>
>> So how do you present your reply when you wish to respond to a number of
>> different points in a long message?
>> --
>> John Secker
> I middle post under each point of course! Sometimes I will bottom post a
> message if it suits my purpose. I just dont have any hang ups about it
> either way.
These "hang ups" which you so proudly lack are sometimes referred to as
"courtesy" and "good netiquette." It has been pointed out to
you(repeatedly) that there are generally accepted rules concerning when
and when not to top post. Ignoring these standards is generally
considered to be a sign of either rudeness, ignorance, or both.
Even if, as you say, it is easier for *you* to read top-posted
messages, most Usenst participants (putatively, your "audience") do not
agree.
So it's up to you: continue to top-post and be considered an offensive
git, or show some courtesy towards your readers and attempt to cast a
little doubt on the matter.
Bret
Shingen
>
>Are you listening to yourself?
>Please understand that I dont give a damn who you are, or claim to be.
>But life is too short for bullshit and Ive had my fill of it from derek's
>antics. And if you think its not OK to criticise a game developer then it is
>you who should be pitied.
>He's not Jesus, he's a programmer who keeps releasing the same game over and
>over with an occasional face lift. But people have caught on and each title
>receives less press and notice than the one before it. The game, and he are
>a non-issue.
>
You are a newbie to space-sim aren't you?
I wish I had the time to read the entire thread, Lemming had me
ROFLin' for AT LEAST several minutes!
This new UC AWA game is just more of the same. Hell, it's getting
worse off now, as he's admittingly reusing the same code base from
BC3K, but NONE of it seems to be working right in an NT/win32
environment.
The NPCs are even MORE screwy then they were in BC3K, the pilots don't
"train" anymore, marines are lobotomized, the graphics are horrid,
blurred and clipped, ect..ect..ect...
At least he's gotten UC 2.00.30 working pretty good. Supposedly the
last patch for UC, and it seems as playable as any other "final"
release 3000AD product.
I'd say, give UC AWA it's prerequisite 50+ patches, and it should be
as good as BCM 1.09.01. =P
Shingen
>
>Lol! I am not a "Fleet Overlord". I belong to a Fleet called Overlord.
>We take on other Fleets in the BC universe. I know there is a lot of
>negative comment about Derek Smarts games but for fans of space
>simulations it really is worth checking out.
>Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
>sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
>structure. Once the SC gives you clearance you can jump right in, we
>always have servers available.
>
>Commander Valiant
>Fleet Overlord
>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
I find that all very comical...but being that you seem to be a
green-horned newbie, I'm not about to take any of your *real* fun
anyway. =P
Shingen
>
>I don't have a problem with Derek running a tight ship. If you want to
>take part on his forums you have to follow his rules. I suppose you're
>a "rebel" Memnoch, and that you "plough your own furrow", all fine and
>good if you don't mind disorder and chaos. Or perhaps you just like to
>act independent on the internet and do your own "forelock tugging" to
>your boss in RL.
>
>Commander Valiant
>Fleet Overlord
>GCV Destruction (BC MkIII)
Another fly in the ol' BC soup.
See, Derek CREATED indies to exist in the BC universe, encouraged
indies to group together so that Galcommies like yourself, would have
something to shoot at, then expected us indies to be toe-sucking
neophyte ass-kissers (which is completely abhorrent to any
death-dealing, blood-lusting scourge of the spacelanes).
The saddest thing that ever happened to UC MP was the tyranny of the
Fleets, headed up by Derek's little buddy Remo. That and the fact that
it's impossible to SAVE anything online, forcing players to start from
scratch everytime they logged in ( or were booted off by the servers).
It's hard to have a "dynamic" universe when everyone is a toe-sucking
ass-kissing "toady"...but you'll learn that soon enough.
Shingen
wrote:
>
>The concept is intriguing, but from what I've read (both and good and bad)
>about the implementation I don't think it's quite my cup of tea. For
>example, even fans of the game describe an unintuitive interface resulting
>in an unneccesarily large time investment just to learn the controls. I
>simply don't have much time to devote to gaming, let alone just learning an
>interface. Still, if you enjoy it I think that's just great.
>
It's still basically the same as BCM, online and off.
>> Our Fleet Leader is Commander Stavin. If anyone is interested just
>> sign up at WWW.3000AD.COM and that will allow you access to the Fleet
>> structure. Once the SC gives you clearance
>
>I don't speak for myself, but there are a few of us around here who are
>explicitly unwelcome at 3000ad.
>
..and whom would that be? What would 3000AD be without space-sim?
Nothing! A small site with 10 or so users.
>> you can jump right in, we always have servers available.
>
>How is MP? Can you save your universe/ship/character? Do you encounter
>NPC ships in MP? I'm sure our good Shingen has already described this to
>us in great detail, but it's hard to weed out the information from the
>Black Sabbath lyrics. (Hi Shin!)
>
>Bret
You're just lazy...=P
rlsuth
is someone who insists on bottom posting after quoting several pages of
unrelated post. You have to scroll down every post to read some drivel. As
for upsetting the natural flow, bullshit. In any decent newsreader, the
order of posts is preserved and indented. You don't need to quote the
previous post most of the time anyway.
Now stop quoting somebody elses view of how we all should post.
"Goomich" <goo...@usun.to.wp.pl> wrote in message
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rlsuth
sentence you are referring to, then your reply, then quote the next sentence
and your reply etc.
If you just want to add a general comment, or some smartass rubbish, either
top post, or don't quote the entire post at all. We can all follow the
indentation and see where your worthless comment fits in.
"John Secker" <jo...@secker.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >
rlsuth
netiquette, It's an anoying and flawed attempt at mind control and forcing
people to do as you want them to. It makes it much more difficult to read a
conversation. For crying out loud, most of the time people just quote pages
of rubbish and waste our time making us scroll down to the bottom to
determine that the post is just that, rubbish. Kind of like yours just was.
"Bret Ripley" <rip...@olywa.net> wrote in message
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Kegs
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:34:48 -0600, "rlsuth" <rls...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>What a crock of crap. As I said, Top Posting is easier to read. What is rude
>>is someone who insists on bottom posting after quoting several pages of
>>unrelated post. You have to scroll down every post to read some drivel. As
>>for upsetting the natural flow, bullshit. In any decent newsreader, the
>>order of posts is preserved and indented. You don't need to quote the
>>previous post most of the time anyway.
>>
>>Now stop quoting somebody elses view of how we all should post.
>
> Goodness, is it September again already? Doesn't time fly?
It is *always* september.
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"Write a wise saying and your name will live forever." Anonymous
Kegs
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:39:40 -0600, rlsuth wrote:
>
>> These are not "generally accepted rules" and it has nothing to do with good
>> netiquette,
>
> Ruh-roh!
Just because they can't read the RFCs, they aren't worth bothering with,
they probably think html email i9s a good idea.
>> It's an anoying and flawed attempt at mind control and forcing
>> people to do as you want them to.
>
> And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Told the ocelot suit wouldn't scare 'em
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"Any excuse will serve a tyrant." Aesop