Derek and Joe - Revisited?
JackyO
are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
Look at the headers : both use the *EXACT* same version of Forte News Agent,
both have IDENTICAL hosting paths, but the ip is different. This could
either be because of their dhcp routing, or because of 2 separate machines.
The other thing is the REMARQ line - not sure of that significance. The rest
is BS <i.e - you put your own organization in>.
Here are the headers :
First Derek :
Path:
typhoon.nyc.rr.com!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.nyc.rr.com!chnws02.mediaone.n
et!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei
.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail
From: Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim
Subject: Re: Derek talks out of his ass again -- Falcon 4 reborn
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 20:21:35 -0400
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Now Joe :
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Subject: Re: Derek talks out of his ass again -- Falcon 4 reborn
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'
But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe whatsoever.
So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
farce.
I can meet with you ANY day this week except for monday. I trade from
9-10:30, and 3-4. I can thus meet you for a beer *ANY* other time of the
day.
My real name is John O'Neill <Jack to the world, Jacky to my sister>, and I
am hoping that you arent a figment of Dereks imagination.
I recall you were once going to meet someone else once in NYC - name the
spot, I will be there.
Lets take this to email - jack...@yahoo.com, and we will set it up.
Louis J.M
>spot, I will be there.
>
>Lets take this to email - jack...@yahoo.com, and we will
>set it up.
This is going to be so damn good.
- Louis J.M
Louis J.M
>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe whatsoever.
>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>farce.
>
>I can meet with you ANY day this week except for monday. I trade from
>9-10:30, and 3-4. I can thus meet you for a beer *ANY* other time of the
>day.
>
>My real name is John O'Neill <Jack to the world, Jacky to my sister>, and
>I
>am hoping that you arent a figment of Dereks imagination.
>
>spot, I will be there.
>
>Lets take this to email - jack...@yahoo.com, and we will set it up.
Great post Jackyo. This is what I've been saying all along. I've always
had this strange gut feeling Dan and Joe were Derek. I just never
looked into the matter that far.
This could be the next big humiliation for Smart, especially in contrast
to his hypocracy about everyone criticizing him being an alias. In any
case, what's a Usenet kook without aliases?
- Louis J.M
Derek Smart
wrote:
>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>
>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
Hey Jackass!! you're really fishing aren't you? What, ran out of
materials, or LIES?? huh John O'Neil??
Derek Smart Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
The Battlecruiser Series
www.3000ad.com
"It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!"
JackyO
sorry for the typo
JackyO <Jack...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com...
> Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>
> are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
>
JackyO
ryu-dog <mar...@sie.net> wrote in message
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>
>
Well, we shall soon see, I guess.
I usually dont think so, but lately ....
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe whatsoever.
That's nice to know., especially since someone got blown away outside
my Mom's house this past Friday night.
>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>farce.
>I can meet with you ANY day this week except for monday. I trade from
>9-10:30, and 3-4. I can thus meet you for a beer *ANY* other time of the
>day.
>
Next week is better for me, preferably a Tuesday, or Wednesday. I have
to host my Mom's Birthday party this week, she turns 65 god bless her.
Also I should spend some quality time, given the, " event " that
occurred 20 feet away from her mailbox. The rest of the week gets
more involved. Since I am not going anywhere, no problem, I'll be
here next week. Free beer always sound good.
>My real name is John O'Neill <Jack to the world, Jacky to my sister>, and I
>am hoping that you arent a figment of Dereks imagination.
An Irishman ? Saints preserve us !!!! Mom is Irish. Dad, well,
that's where the Sicilian baggage comes in, and man does it weigh a
ton.
>I recall you were once going to meet someone else once in NYC - name the
>spot, I will be there.
>>Lets take this to email - jack...@yahoo.com, and we will set it up.
It sounds like a discussion can be worked out ala e- mail. Lets meet
where my less then genteel, old fart perpetual student persona might
not feel intimidated., especially by Wall street acumen, not to
mention accumulated cash.
Bay Ridge, Brooklyn has a few salt of the earth atmospheric bars that
are respectable. The neighborhood is very nice, Working Class, unless
you travel down to the shoreline by Shore Road ( the Verrazanno
Narrows ), then you have mansions that face Staten Island, and upper
NY harbor. However we generally overlook those, unless we wanna break
into one. Just kidding . This location would mean getting you out to
the sticks though. <g> Seriously, there is a nice little pub there
that I discovered, good cheap beer, along with a very nice
clientele. Almost a Cheers like quality.
I'll e-mail you before this Thursday with some suggestions and
pertinent info.
Joe
Louis J.M
>materials, or LIES?? huh John O'Neil??
He is a jackass. No, I'm a jackass. Why the hell didn't I think of posting
that first...
People are always stealing our ideas man!!!!
- Louis J.M
Louis J.M
>That's nice to know., especially since someone got blown away outside
>my Mom's house this past Friday night.
Cool!
>Next week is better for me, preferably a Tuesday, or Wednesday. I have
>to host my Mom's Birthday party this week, she turns 65 god bless her.
>Also I should spend some quality time, given the, " event " that
>occurred 20 feet away from her mailbox. The rest of the week gets
>more involved. Since I am not going anywhere, no problem, I'll be
>here next week. Free beer always sound good.
>An Irishman ? Saints preserve us !!!! Mom is Irish.
This explains everything.
>However we generally overlook those, unless we wanna break
>into one.
I can just imagine you trying to break into a mansion. Triggering an alarm,
you'd
make a break for the door, running with your pants down babbling as the
floodlights
came on and two K9's chased after you.
- Louis J.M
JackyO
J...@bsfilter.com <nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote in message
news:767hmsovr458elvdi...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:55:43 GMT, "JackyO" <Jack...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
whatsoever.
>
> my Mom's house this past Friday night.
Wow, where the hell do you live anyway?
She all right?
That would spook me.
>
> >So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
> >person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this
whole
> >farce.
> >I can meet with you ANY day this week except for monday. I trade from
> >9-10:30, and 3-4. I can thus meet you for a beer *ANY* other time of the
> >day.
> >
> Next week is better for me, preferably a Tuesday, or Wednesday. I have
> to host my Mom's Birthday party this week, she turns 65 god bless her.
> Also I should spend some quality time, given the, " event " that
> occurred 20 feet away from her mailbox. The rest of the week gets
> more involved. Since I am not going anywhere, no problem, I'll be
> here next week. Free beer always sound good.
That's fine. Where do you work? NYC? Or Brooklyn? I dont get over to
brooklyn very often if I can help it, but I may make an exception ; >
But why don't we make it good and go to Lugers for dinner? That is the only
reason I go to Brooklyn anymore.
But we need to make a reservervation 2 weeks in advance, so let me know
when. I will make the reservations.
Unless you want to keep it simple and just grab a beer?
Let me know.
>
> >My real name is John O'Neill <Jack to the world, Jacky to my sister>, and
I
> >am hoping that you arent a figment of Dereks imagination.
>
> An Irishman ? Saints preserve us !!!! Mom is Irish. Dad, well,
> that's where the Sicilian baggage comes in, and man does it weigh a
> ton.
>
Dad is Irish, Mom is ... something (?)
PJL
JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>
>
>
whatsoever.
>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>farce.
>
HEY!
Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
is literate.
If you want to hang in Bay ridge that's OK, I grew up there, haven't bar
hopped in years.
Is the Boarder Inn still around? It was the only place that gave buybacks.
NYC is OK too.
How about a Met game? There's interleague games coming up, weeknight games
are usually easy to get tickets to.
email me if interested
do$fer...@msn.com
change $ to s
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Pat Lundrigan
do$feratu@m$n.com
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nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>
>JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
>>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>>
>>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
>>
>>
>>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
>whatsoever.
>>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>>farce.
>>
>
>
>HEY!
>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
>is literate.
Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
interesting to get you on board.
>If you want to hang in Bay ridge that's OK, I grew up there, haven't bar
>hopped in years.
Same here, especially since, and of course you know, the Ridge , at
one time had, ( and since has lost IMHO ) it's very serious
concentration of bars situated within a ridiculously small area. There
are still a number of watering holes, but not like there was. Ah man ,
those were the days. Some vestiges of this still exist, hey no big
surprise, it 's still a heavily Irish, Norwegian, and German
neighborhood.
Where in the Ridge did you live ? Heck, where do you live now that
your able to make this pilgrimage ? I didn't think that you were local
to NYC. Did you go to F. H. H. S. , or to one of those fancy private
schools? I forget what the heck the one located across from Victory
Memorial Hospital, and adjacent to the Golf course is called. It's
the place with acres of land, and the duck pond , next to the Army
base.
Concerning getting on board, I have to get back to Jackyo by
Thursday, in preparation for this coming week. He said he, " might ",
make an excursion to Brooklyn .That would be preferable to me, since
I 'm more downtrodden and destitute then usual. Errr, I am broke/minus
checks, and on vacation. I have zip need to go to Manhattan, if I
can help it., that ALWAYS costs me big money, whether someone says
it's a freebee or not. <g> Also I like to help Manhattanites breach
the culture barrier that exists between the boroughs, real big of me,
yes ? <g>
Bay Ridge,and I'm sure you agree, is a great little area. I wish I
could afford a house on Colonial Road or Shore Road. What more can
you ask for in NYC, then an urban area that resembles a suburban
locale with trees, killer shoreline views of the harbor, and houses
with decent little plots of land, all in NYC . To me this is second
only to the incredible Staten Island homesteads near Wagner College,
and the SI campus of Saint John's U, at Grymes Hill in the Richmond
section. Now that is NYC living at it's absolute best. Mansions ,
with their own in ground swimming pools, and tennis courts , not to
mention, again, harbor views, from the other side of the narrows,<g>
just a bus and ferry ride from Manhattan. Hell there is even a great
little bar in the neighborhood , on Victory Boulevard SI . Did you
ever hear of the Roadhouse ? They serve some wicked drinks, and have
been there for ages. If I could get you and Jackyo to meet me there,
then we could have a great time, err on Jacky's tab .....of course.
<g>
Getting back to Bay Ridge , a few weeks ago, I found a very nice
little pub in the lower 90's on 5th avenue., I got off the R station
at 86 th street, and met my cousin to look for a place to have a few
beers. Right on the corner of 86th and 5th, is the VERY VERY Irish
bar, " the Snook Inn ".
I can hear the sound of one pair of demented hands typing already .
Yes Louis, it is actually called that . Well the Snook Inn is okay,
but way too Soccer crazy . I continued walking on 5th , and found a
place in the low 90's , closer to the bridge, that was evidently so
good, <g>, I gotta get the name from my cousin, ie I don't remember.
Really my kinda place, put the History channel on when I asked for
it, after Wimmbeldon ( excuse spelling ) , was over. One of the bar
tenders is an ex Marine, and we had a grand ole time discussing
weapons platforms etc.
>Is the Boarder Inn still around? It was the only place that gave buybacks.
I don 't remember this place. I might have gone to it all the time
without looking, or caring, those were the days !! WAY too many bars
in that area. I can tell you great stories about Penny Feathers on
Nurses night. Man, a hornier bunch of women I have never met. If we
get together with jackyO, I'll tell you a full disclosure story
concerning this place.
The place I went last week, ie the history channel bar, was incredible
in this day an age. They had, $0.50 glasses of beer, a nice
atmosphere, an okay selection, and gave buy backs like it was going
out of style. Some guy who owned a car service across the street, came
in and bought the entire bar tequila shots. I thought that was cool,
since I never met the guy. <g> Nice way to spend a Wednesday.
>NYC is OK too.
>
Hey I can do NYC, If I have to, I just don't like it much. What can I
say. I'm a product of my environment. Did you ever notice on the
elevated/ above ground Brooklyn subway lines, in the stations, by
the Token booths, they have staircases marked for the two passenger
tracks as , " to the City ", and " from the City ". Hmmm so WTF City
do I then live in ?
>How about a Met game? There's interleague games coming up, weeknight games
>are usually easy to get tickets to.
We just missed the Yankees/Mets
>email me if interested
>do$fer...@msn.com
>change $ to s
>
Will try an iron out a meeting with you and Jackyo for next Tuesday
night . I gotta get in contact with him before this Thursday, same
with you.
Joe
Louis J.M
>>HEY!
>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as
>he
>>is literate.
>
>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>hitting the floor.
Pah. This isn't even remotely incoherent enough to be funny...
>That would be preferable to me, since
>I 'm more downtrodden and destitute then usual.
Well, maybe a little.
- Louis J.M
Derek Smart
<nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:32:04 -0400, "PJL" <Do$feratu@email.m$n.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
>>>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>>>
>>>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
>>>
>>>
>>>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
>>whatsoever.
>>>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>>>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>>>farce.
>>>
>>
>>
>>HEY!
>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
>>is literate.
>
>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
>interesting to get you on board.
hey, can I come???
Louis J.M
Incredible!
- Louis J.M
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:39:09 -0400, "J...@bsfilter.com"
><nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:32:04 -0400, "PJL" <Do$feratu@email.m$n.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
>>>>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>>>>
>>>>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
>>>whatsoever.
>>>>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>>>>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this whole
>>>>farce.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>HEY!
>>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
>>>is literate.
>>
>>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
>>interesting to get you on board.
>
>hey, can I come???
>
>
>Derek Smart Ph.D.
>Designer/Lead Developer
>The Battlecruiser Series
>www.3000ad.com
>
>"It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
>It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!"
Hey Derek, If your in NYC this coming tuesday, lets go.
JackyO promised to buy me beers, but he didn't mention anything
about springing for airfare though. <g>
Let me know, we'll take a few pictures of you, JackyO, Pat, and me,
and have a few laughs.
Joe
Scharmers
>
>Hey Derek, If your in NYC this coming tuesday, lets go.
> JackyO promised to buy me beers, but he didn't mention
anything
>about springing for airfare though. <g>
>Let me know, we'll take a few pictures of you, JackyO, Pat, and
me,
>and have a few laughs.
>
>Joe
Damn, Joe, I woulda figured you for the bars on Castro in San
Francisco!
--scharmers
>
>
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nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
<scharmer...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>"J...@bsfilter.com" <nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Derek, If your in NYC this coming tuesday, lets go.
>> JackyO promised to buy me beers, but he didn't mention
>anything
>>about springing for airfare though. <g>
>>Let me know, we'll take a few pictures of you, JackyO, Pat, and
>me,
>>and have a few laughs.
>>
>>Joe
>
>Damn, Joe, I woulda figured you for the bars on Castro in San
>Francisco!
>
>--scharmers
>
Nah, the only, " women ", in those bars have five o cock shadow, or
are truck driver butch chicks that are SCUM, ( Society for Cutting
Up Men). Now if you could direct me to a lipstick lesbo bar, I might
be able to control my testosterone, not to mention my hands, and watch
the ladies go at it for awhile.
Joe
PJL
Derek Smart wrote in message <6d0pmsk7mbod469sg...@4ax.com>...
>>>HEY!
>>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as
he
>>>is literate.
>>
>>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
>>interesting to get you on board.
>
>hey, can I come???
>
yeah, sure.
But since I'm in your killfiler, will a red line show up across my mouth?
PJL
ryu-dog wrote in message ...
>On 12 Jul 2000 16:42:20 GMT, loui...@aol.com (Louis J.M) wrote:
>
>>>hey, can I come???
>>
>>Incredible!
>>
>
>I'm serious.. Grab a bus ticket!!!
>
sorry, drinking age in NYC is 21, I don't want to sneak a minor into a bar.
PJL
J...@bsfilter.com wrote in message ...
>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
>>is literate.
>
>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
>interesting to get you on board.
>
>>If you want to hang in Bay ridge that's OK, I grew up there, haven't bar
>>hopped in years.
>
>Same here, especially since, and of course you know, the Ridge , at
>one time had, ( and since has lost IMHO ) it's very serious
>concentration of bars situated within a ridiculously small area.
And churches.
There
>are still a number of watering holes, but not like there was. Ah man ,
>those were the days. Some vestiges of this still exist, hey no big
>surprise, it 's still a heavily Irish, Norwegian, and German
>neighborhood.
Arabs, korean and chinese too. There's a Mosque on Bayridge ave and 5th.
>
>Where in the Ridge did you live ?
Bay Ridge Ave. mom's still there.
Heck, where do you live now that
>your able to make this pilgrimage ? I didn't think that you were local
>to NYC.
I'm in Joisy, exit 16w! <g>
But I work in Teterboro, just a short trip to NYC.
Did you go to F. H. H. S. , or to one of those fancy private
>schools?
Xaverian. it wasn't fancy when I went there, but it is now.
I forget what the heck the one located across from Victory
>Memorial Hospital,
I was born there.
and adjacent to the Golf course is called. It's
>the place with acres of land, and the duck pond , next to the Army
>base.
Poly Prep Academy?
>
>Concerning getting on board, I have to get back to Jackyo by
>Thursday, in preparation for this coming week. He said he, " might ",
>make an excursion to Brooklyn .
One of my pals moved to the upper west side. I can never get him to hang
out in the old neighborhood anymore.
>
>
>Getting back to Bay Ridge , a few weeks ago, I found a very nice
>little pub in the lower 90's on 5th avenue., I got off the R station
>at 86 th street, and met my cousin to look for a place to have a few
>beers. Right on the corner of 86th and 5th, is the VERY VERY Irish
>bar, " the Snook Inn ".
Between 86th and 87th on the shore side?
>>
>Hey I can do NYC, If I have to, I just don't like it much. What can I
>say. I'm a product of my environment. Did you ever notice on the
>elevated/ above ground Brooklyn subway lines, in the stations, by
>the Token booths, they have staircases marked for the two passenger
>tracks as , " to the City ", and " from the City ". Hmmm so WTF City
>do I then live in ?
for as long as I can remember, manhattan was always called 'the city.'
I guess that makes B'klyn the country!
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do$feratu@m$n.com
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Louis J.M
>I'm serious.. Grab a bus ticket!!!
You know. I COULD. I mean, it's not that expensive, (about $150
round trip). Besides, I'd love to me Joe.
Don't you have to be 21 to get into a bar?
- Louis J.M
Louis J.M
>into a bar.
You wouldn't have to worry about that. I've snuck into more
clubs in South Florida than I'd care to admit. ;-)
- Louis J.M
JackyO
PJL <Do$feratu@email.m$n.com> wrote in message
news:uQYjeg66$GA.420@cpmsnbbsa08...
>
> JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
> >Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
> >
> >are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
> >
> >
> >But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
> whatsoever.
> >So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
> >person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this
whole
> >farce.
> >
>
>
> Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as he
> is literate.
> hopped in years.
buybacks.
> How about a Met game? There's interleague games coming up, weeknight
games
> are usually easy to get tickets to.
>
Met Game? Met Game?
YANKEE game, baby!
I didnt know you lived in NYC.
Wherabouts?
JackyO
Really?
I can understand why some people would prefer suburbs to the big city <I do
myself, and am shopping for a house in the Tarrytown area> but why would you
prefer Brooklyn over NYC?
I was born in Brooklyn, and lived on Knapp street, a few blocks from the
great roast beef place Brennan and Cars.
Tell you what - *THAT* would be reason enough for me to make a trek to
Brooklyn. But lets defintely try to get PJL on board too. We can meet and
get drunk and wolf down some Roast Beef <straight off the spit they take
it - is that place still around?>
JackyO
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:33:28 -0400, Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:39:09 -0400, "J...@bsfilter.com"
> ><nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote:
> >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
> >>>>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
> >>>>
> >>>>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
> >>>whatsoever.
> >>>>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
> >>>>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this
whole
> >>>>farce.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>HEY!
> >>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as
he
> >>>is literate.
> >>
> >>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
> >>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
> >>interesting to get you on board.
> >
> >
> >
> >Derek Smart Ph.D.
> >Designer/Lead Developer
> >The Battlecruiser Series
> >www.3000ad.com
> >
> >"It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
> >It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!"
>
> JackyO promised to buy me beers, but he didn't mention anything
> about springing for airfare though. <g>
> Let me know, we'll take a few pictures of you, JackyO, Pat, and me,
> and have a few laughs.
>
ROFL!
That would be pretty funny. I am willing to bet, away from this place,
everyone, detractors and supporters, are pretty decent guys <there may be a
few exceptions to this>.
Hey, has there ever been a female 'player.'
JackyO
> >>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as
he
> >>is literate.
> >
> >Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
> >hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
> >interesting to get you on board.
> >
> >>If you want to hang in Bay ridge that's OK, I grew up there, haven't bar
> >>hopped in years.
> >
> >Same here, especially since, and of course you know, the Ridge , at
> >one time had, ( and since has lost IMHO ) it's very serious
> >concentration of bars situated within a ridiculously small area.
>
>
> There
> >are still a number of watering holes, but not like there was. Ah man ,
> >those were the days. Some vestiges of this still exist, hey no big
> >surprise, it 's still a heavily Irish, Norwegian, and German
> >neighborhood.
>
>
> >
>
>
> >your able to make this pilgrimage ? I didn't think that you were local
> >to NYC.
>
>
> Did you go to F. H. H. S. , or to one of those fancy private
> >schools?
>
>
> >Memorial Hospital,
>
>
> and adjacent to the Golf course is called. It's
> >the place with acres of land, and the duck pond , next to the Army
> >base.
>
My father went to Poly Prep. I would probably, too, had our apartment
building not burned to the ground when I was 3, and we moved out to the subu
rbs.
Thank GOD for small miracles!
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>
>J...@bsfilter.com <nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote in message
>news:apbpms079cm07ukeg...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:33:28 -0400, Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:39:09 -0400, "J...@bsfilter.com"
>> ><nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:32:04 -0400, "PJL" <Do$feratu@email.m$n.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>JackyO wrote in message <3JS95.522$w1.5...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com>...
>> >>>>Ok, once again, I am bringing this up -
>> >>>>
>> >>>>are Joe and Derek the same fellow?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>But I will make it easier. I personally have nothing against Joe
>> >>>whatsoever.
>> >>>>So, since we both live in New York, Joe, lets meet. If you are a real
>> >>>>person, the beer is on me. We will shoot the shit, and laugh at this
>whole
>> >>>>farce.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>HEY!
>> >>>Count me in. I'll buy joe a beer just to see if he is as articulate as
>he
>> >>>is literate.
>> >>
>> >>Oh man, haha, I think that sound you might have just heard is Louis
>> >>hitting the floor. Seriously , if you can make it, it would be
>> >>interesting to get you on board.
>> >
>> >hey, can I come???
>> >
>> >
>> >Derek Smart Ph.D.
>> >Designer/Lead Developer
>> >The Battlecruiser Series
>> >www.3000ad.com
>> >
>> >"It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
>> >It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!"
>>
>> Hey Derek, If your in NYC this coming tuesday, lets go.
>> JackyO promised to buy me beers, but he didn't mention anything
>> about springing for airfare though. <g>
>> Let me know, we'll take a few pictures of you, JackyO, Pat, and me,
>> and have a few laughs.
>>
>
>
>ROFL!
>
>That would be pretty funny. I am willing to bet, away from this place,
>everyone, detractors and supporters, are pretty decent guys <there may be a
>few exceptions to this>.
>
>Hey, has there ever been a female 'player.'
>
Louis .
LOL , sorry, I HAD to take the shot.
Joe
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>> >
>> Hey I can do NYC, If I have to, I just don't like it much.
>
>Really?
>
>I can understand why some people would prefer suburbs to the big city <I do
>myself, and am shopping for a house in the Tarrytown area> but why would you
>prefer Brooklyn over NYC?
>
I only prefer the very suburban, and / or preferably richer areas of
Brooklyn . For example, I had friends I went to High school with that
lived in Manhattan Beach. Man what an eye opener to this poor boy.
They had servants quarters in their 25 room mansion facing Sheepshead
bay, with Salvador Dali Lithos on the wall. It sure impressed this
SOB.
To tell you the truth what I just wrote above is not entirely true.
Wealth, was never a sole factor in my appreciation of certain areas
of Brooklyn , and Staten Island over Manhattan. If it was they would
come in at best, second , or worse. I think I am into a weird , "
what is wrong with this picture ", deal , only on a level that is far
more encompassing ie architecturally, and perhaps sociologically .
For example Borum Hill , Brooklyn Heights , and Park Slope. I love,
these areas , seriously. They, IMHO, have incredible charm.
However, I feel, and maybe this is metaphysically related to just me ,
a world of difference, not just related to wealth , but tangibly
related to a very different sensory/visceral stimuli , that I also
hold in a very high regard, when I appreciate other areas of BKlyn
farther removed from the Manhattan mainstream .
I learned years ago that architecture, and surroundings are very
important to man's, err well, at least my well being. Specifically, I
found the multitude and diversity of architectural, and sociological
conglomerates in NYC incredible. I hence chose / found my comfortable
areas. They usually were areas within the city that most of the
media would not display as the typical NYC locale. Most of rest of
the country/ hell world, thinks , supposes that these areas within
NYC should NOT exist.. ala thanks to Kojack etc.
I once gave a tour to a Greek tourist , and her family, of Brooklyn
, and Staten island that left her speechless that these neighborhoods
existed despite what Hollyshit said was there. It was an incredible
experience to show her Mansions ie Shore Road , along with a fishing
village in Brooklyn ie Sheepshead Bay, and the other Brooklyn Mansions
across the atmospheric foot bridge to Manhattan beach, not to mention
the incredible shoreline there, almost Southern California , in a
microcosm.
>I was born in Brooklyn, and lived on Knapp street, a few blocks from the
>great roast beef place Brennan and Cars.
>
Nice area with charm. I met a few girls at the time, that broke my
heart there. Brooklyn Heights , and Boreum Hill always held me in
rapture since I saw the old black and white, , " Arsenic and Old
lace " .... there is a Happy Dale far, far away .....<g>
>Tell you what - *THAT* would be reason enough for me to make a trek to
>Brooklyn. But lets defintely try to get PJL on board too. We can meet and
>get drunk and wolf down some Roast Beef <straight off the spit they take
>it - is that place still around?>
>
I haven 't been in that neighb in years , if your driving we can eat
in Boerum Hill , drink in Bay Ridge, and possibly end the night in
Sheepshead bay at Pip's Comedy club overlooking NYC's own
Fishing Village, Sheepshead bay . We can save a ride on the Coney
Island Roller Coaster/ Cyclone , for our , <g> next trip, if you
want !! Captain Walters in the bay used to be an incredible place
also . Bring a camera . The three of us will reach , I imagine , a
quicker consensus about this, then about our mutual Bc3k related
differences no doubt.
All the best
Joe
Bill Huffman
...
> ROFL!
>
> That would be pretty funny. I am willing to bet, away from this place,
> everyone, detractors and supporters, are pretty decent guys <there may
be a
> few exceptions to this>.
>
> Hey, has there ever been a female 'player.'
If you're talking about in the flame war, the only female poster that I
can think of is the lady from Elite that popped in for a few days when
the thread was crossposted to elite.
Louis J.M
>LOL , sorry, I HAD to take the shot.
>Joe
That wouldn't be a bad idea.
- Louis J.M
Louis J.M
>can think of is the lady from Elite that popped in for a few days when
>the thread was crossposted to elite.
I was going to respond to that, but I figured, nah. But since you
did, her name is Laura. She's on irc.vapo.net. Very nice lady.
She got into words with Smart after he started cross-posting to
alt.fan.elite and started talking crap about David Braben and his
games.
- Louis J.M
Louis J.M
>great roast beef place Brennan and Cars.
>
>Tell you what - *THAT* would be reason enough for me to make a trek to
>Brooklyn. But lets defintely try to get PJL on board too. We can meet and
>get drunk and wolf down some Roast Beef <straight off the spit they take
>it - is that place still around?>
I've been there! In 1994 when I took a trip up to NYC to visit my uncle
Al we all went there to eat. (I don't remember if I liked the food or not.)
It looks like a little brick house with plaid curtains 1950's (40's?) stuff
all around inside, right?
That's a rough neiborhood though btw!
- Louis J.M
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
>>I was born in Brooklyn, and lived on Knapp street, a few blocks from the
>>great roast beef place Brennan and Cars.
>>
>>Tell you what - *THAT* would be reason enough for me to make a trek to
>>Brooklyn. But lets defintely try to get PJL on board too. We can meet and
>>get drunk and wolf down some Roast Beef <straight off the spit they take
>>it - is that place still around?>
>
>I've been there! In 1994 when I took a trip up to NYC to visit my uncle
>Al we all went there to eat. (I don't remember if I liked the food or not.)
>
>It looks like a little brick house with plaid curtains 1950's (40's?) stuff
>all around inside, right?
>
>That's a rough neiborhood though btw!
>
>- Louis J.M
>
Tinker bell
Joe
PJL
Bill Huffman wrote in message ...
>
>JackyO <Jack...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:iO9b5.356$y3....@typhoon.nyc.rr.com...
>...
>> ROFL!
>>
>> That would be pretty funny. I am willing to bet, away from this place,
>> everyone, detractors and supporters, are pretty decent guys <there may
>be a
>> few exceptions to this>.
>>
>> Hey, has there ever been a female 'player.'
>
>can think of is the lady from Elite that popped in for a few days when
>the thread was crossposted to elite.
Was SFong really 'Sister fong' or was that just another rumour?
JackyO
J...@bsfilter.com <nobr...@unleesrjed.Clampet> wrote in message
news:9pkqmsgq2fale10nt...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:25:48 GMT, "JackyO" <Jack...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> Hey I can do NYC, If I have to, I just don't like it much.
> >
> >Really?
> >
> >I can understand why some people would prefer suburbs to the big city <I
do
> >myself, and am shopping for a house in the Tarrytown area> but why would
you
> >prefer Brooklyn over NYC?
> >
>
> >I was born in Brooklyn, and lived on Knapp street, a few blocks from the
> >great roast beef place Brennan and Cars.
> >
> Nice area with charm. I met a few girls at the time, that broke my
> heart there. Brooklyn Heights , and Boreum Hill always held me in
> rapture since I saw the old black and white, , " Arsenic and Old
> lace " .... there is a Happy Dale far, far away .....<g>
>
>
> >Tell you what - *THAT* would be reason enough for me to make a trek to
> >Brooklyn. But lets defintely try to get PJL on board too. We can meet and
> >get drunk and wolf down some Roast Beef <straight off the spit they take
> >it - is that place still around?>
> >
Bill Huffman
he/she is. In one thread I remember him/her saying that he/she wasn't S.
Fong and that we shouldn't call him/her that. When he/she was asked what
people should refer to him/her as he/she didn't answer. I thought maybe
"it" was supposed to be referred to as SFong instead of S. Fong. "It"
said no that wasn't it, IIRC. SFong is/was an enigma.
PJL <Do$feratu@email.m$n.com> wrote in message
news:OJB#upR7$GA.357@cpmsnbbsa07...
>
> Bill Huffman wrote in message ...
> >
> >JackyO <Jack...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:iO9b5.356$y3....@typhoon.nyc.rr.com...
> >...
> >> ROFL!
> >>
> >> That would be pretty funny. I am willing to bet, away from this
place,
> >> everyone, detractors and supporters, are pretty decent guys <there
may
> >be a
> >> few exceptions to this>.
> >>
> >> Hey, has there ever been a female 'player.'
> >
> >If you're talking about in the flame war, the only female poster that
I
> >can think of is the lady from Elite that popped in for a few days
when
> >the thread was crossposted to elite.
>
>
> Was SFong really 'Sister fong' or was that just another rumour?
>
The Larch
news:v3tb5.2$rX5...@typhoon2.san.rr.com...
> HAHA I have no clue who SFong was. I'm not so sure that SFong knows
who
> he/she is. In one thread I remember him/her saying that he/she wasn't
S.
> Fong and that we shouldn't call him/her that. When he/she was asked
what
> people should refer to him/her as he/she didn't answer. I thought
maybe
> "it" was supposed to be referred to as SFong instead of S. Fong. "It"
> said no that wasn't it, IIRC. SFong is/was an enigma.
And, according to DS, either you or DAKTARI!. :-) I wonder which one
of you I am...
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>Send me an email
>
Check your Yahoo acount, I didn 't get a bounce back so it must
have gone thru.
Joe