Derek Smart NOT mentioned as a GAME GOD
jsmi...@my-deja.com
'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
'elite' in the industry.
Much to Derek's chagrin, he was NOT mentioned at all. After all,
why should he be mentioned ? He has managed to produce 1 lousy
game in 8 years that suffered a 70% return rate and got the
worst rating in the history of gaming for a major release. His
obnoxious personality has sparked a 3 year flamewar, and all
he has to show for his efforts is a lousy bargain basement title
that sells in the junk pile bin right alongside such classics
as Outpost.
He may think he is 'an elite' developer, but he is an also-ran
in an industry of top talent. There is always room at the bottom for
more Derek Smarts, as they hold up the pyramid of talent that
made this industry great.
Nice going derek. Keep up the good work, and you may get mention in
Pc Gamers article on 'where are they now.'
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Jimmy Chan
>It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
>'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
>'elite' in the industry.
>
>Much to Derek's chagrin, he was NOT mentioned at all. After all,
>why should he be mentioned ? He has managed to produce 1 lousy
>game in 8 years that suffered a 70% return rate and got the
>worst rating in the history of gaming for a major release. His
>obnoxious personality has sparked a 3 year flamewar, and all
>he has to show for his efforts is a lousy bargain basement title
>that sells in the junk pile bin right alongside such classics
>as Outpost.
Oh come on now, let's not defame a game like Outpost with crap like
BC3K. The one favorable thing that a game like Outpost has over BC3K
was that in the bargain bin, the purchase price is still ~$10.00
whereas BC3K V2.0 was relegated to being discounted at ~$6.00 after it
kept getting returned at ~$15.00. At least a game like Outpost still
has some selling power whereas BC3K V2.0 is virtually worthless unless
you can get the PhD Fraud to pay you not to buy his game. Btw, Allan
maybe you should try to see if the PhD Fraud will pay you not to buy
his game, though I doubt it considering that he is bankrupt.
scharmers
jsmi...@my-deja.com wrote:
> It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
> 'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
> 'elite' in the industry.
>
> Much to Derek's chagrin, he was NOT mentioned at all. After all,
> why should he be mentioned ? He has managed to produce 1 lousy
> game in 8 years that suffered a 70% return rate and got the
> worst rating in the history of gaming for a major release. His
> obnoxious personality has sparked a 3 year flamewar, and all
> he has to show for his efforts is a lousy bargain basement title
> that sells in the junk pile bin right alongside such classics
> as Outpost.
>
> in an industry of top talent. There is always room at the bottom for
> more Derek Smarts, as they hold up the pyramid of talent that
> made this industry great.
>
> Nice going derek. Keep up the good work, and you may get mention in
> Pc Gamers article on 'where are they now.'
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
Yep. This should be the only, and final post, of the Derek Smart
flamewar. No matter how many man-hours have been poured in this whole
sordid (if occassionally entertaining) affair, it all boils down to:
1) A game, eight years in development, that was a complete, total,
utter, miserable failure.
2) One egotist game designer who refuses to acknowledge this.
3) A bunch of people who like poking mean, but helpless, animals in
cages.
Derek will never be a success. Perserverance is all very well and
good, and something to respect, but the talent and skill must be
there. Derek has perserverance, but no talent and less skill. Keep
chipping away at that mountain with your spoon, Derek -- the spoon is
eventually going to break, and the mountain will still be there. So
will the people poking at you through your cage.
--
--Watch yourself,
--scharmers
Allan Parent
>
> It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
> 'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
> 'elite' in the industry.
>
> Much to Derek's chagrin, he was NOT mentioned at all. After all,
> why should he be mentioned ? He has managed to produce 1 lousy
> game in 8 years that suffered a 70% return rate and got the
> worst rating in the history of gaming for a major release. His
> obnoxious personality has sparked a 3 year flamewar, and all
> he has to show for his efforts is a lousy bargain basement title
> that sells in the junk pile bin right alongside such classics
> as Outpost.
I totally agree. Sid Mier, Andy Hollis, Larry
Holland....YES.....derek....NO WAY!
Allan
Allan Parent
>
> Oh come on now, let's not defame a game like Outpost with crap like
> BC3K. The one favorable thing that a game like Outpost has over BC3K
> was that in the bargain bin, the purchase price is still ~$10.00
> whereas BC3K V2.0 was relegated to being discounted at ~$6.00 after it
> kept getting returned at ~$15.00. At least a game like Outpost still
> has some selling power whereas BC3K V2.0 is virtually worthless unless
> you can get the PhD Fraud to pay you not to buy his game. Btw, Allan
> maybe you should try to see if the PhD Fraud will pay you not to buy
> his game, though I doubt it considering that he is bankrupt.
Jimmy,
I would but since I have joined the killfile armada, he doesn't see my
posts anymore. Too bad...I wonder how much I could get? Of course I
would have to stand in line behind his other creditors. Although it
could be fun. Maybe we should just all write letters via snail mail
demanding payment for not buying the game. It sounds like a good Derek
day activity for Huffman et al. What do you think?
Allan
Joel Mack
> It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
> 'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
> 'elite' in the industry.
<snip>
Yep, pretty cool.
Am I the only sick freak that thinks Roberta Williams is kinda hot?
That's what I thought... :)
Mike Farnsworth
twit
Farns
<jsmi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7o4jh9$t1c$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
> 'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
> 'elite' in the industry.
>
> Much to Derek's chagrin, he was NOT mentioned at all. After all,
> why should he be mentioned ? He has managed to produce 1 lousy
> game in 8 years that suffered a 70% return rate and got the
> worst rating in the history of gaming for a major release. His
> obnoxious personality has sparked a 3 year flamewar, and all
> he has to show for his efforts is a lousy bargain basement title
> that sells in the junk pile bin right alongside such classics
> as Outpost.
>
Avenger
all.
--
-Mike Evans
(Avenger)
mikea...@mindspring.com
-----------------
jackyo
Joel Mack wrote in message ...
>In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic jsmi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> It was interesting to read the latest PC Gamer with the
>> 'GAMING' Gods. Basically, it was a great article on the
>> 'elite' in the industry.
>
>
>Yep, pretty cool.
>
>Am I the only sick freak that thinks Roberta Williams is kinda hot?
ROFL !
Well, I LOVED mystery house <'DAISY is HERE with a KNIFE'> and Wizard and
the Princess
was one of my favorite games ever <keep this in perspective please - I was
about 13 !> so she will always look good to me !
Paul Gifford
Avenger <mikea...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7o51k0$tlu$1...@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net...
> The guys at PC Gamer seem to hate Derek with a passion. I'm not suprised
at
> all.
>
Well, that and the fact he hasn't produced a working title yet. Even if
you count BC3000AD patch 22 beta 42g as a working title, that's only one
over many years. Maybe that's why the sequel is named BC3020...it will take
20 years to finish.
He was in the running for "PR god" for his ability to string people along
for years but then the judges read his USENET posts...
p
Mr Macky
PR didn't get him on PC Gamer's list.
Gator
> Yep. This should be the only, and final post, of the Derek Smart
> flamewar. No matter how many man-hours have been poured in this whole
> sordid (if occassionally entertaining) affair, it all boils down to:
>
> 1) A game, eight years in development, that was a complete, total,
> utter, miserable failure.
> 2) One egotist game designer who refuses to acknowledge this.
> 3) A bunch of people who like poking mean, but helpless, animals in
> cages.
>
> Derek will never be a success. Perserverance is all very well and
> good, and something to respect, but the talent and skill must be
> there. Derek has perserverance, but no talent and less skill. Keep
> chipping away at that mountain with your spoon, Derek -- the spoon is
> eventually going to break, and the mountain will still be there. So
> will the people poking at you through your cage.
>
> --
> --Watch yourself,
> --scharmers
>
You summed it up very well. I have never gotten involved in the
flamewars myself but they have been ( at times ) as entertaining as
anything else. There also have been times when they have gotten
downright ugly.
Oh Well, I just can't wait until BC3020 comes out and the flamewars
start anew. NOT.
Just think of it all as entertainment. If you don't like it you can
switch the channel.
Mike
"Someday all this will be yours!!"
"What? The curtains?"
jsmi...@my-deja.com
jsmi...@my-deja.com
Yeah. Steinmeyer probalvy should have been there.
I hear that Derek is going to be on the 'losers who haven't done shit'
list coming out sometime in 2020 AD.
Derek Smart
<mikea...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>The guys at PC Gamer seem to hate Derek with a passion. I'm not suprised at
>all.
I can't be bothered with that PC Gamer crap anymore anyway. Besides,
as a developer, I have met with and/or spoken to most of the
developers (those in the article) and other notables in the industry
at some point or another. Talk about peer pressure.
The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
Apart from that, I would be *extremely* intimidated even if I were
included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
Roberta etc. C'mon, when these folks started out making games, I
didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
life.
Invite Derek Smart? No thanks. I'm perfectly happy keeping that issue
as a collector's item. Besides, what would they [PC Gamer] write under
my photo? Considering that I only have 2 titles, with my first, thanks
to Take Two, being an inexcusable failure, what would they write?
Derek Smart, Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
The Battlecruiser Series
www.bc3000ad.com
"It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!"
Derek Smart
wrote:
>Romero's got to be seriously bummed that all that "gonna make you my bitch"
>PR didn't get him on PC Gamer's list.
I doubt it. John doesn't give a rat's ass about stuff like that. That
whole PR thing was his mistake and he alone will bear the consequences
of have to deal with it.
Anyway, a *lot* of other notables weren't included.
Jimmy Chan
wrote:
>The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
>they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
>and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
>under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
>what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
Doesn't this sound like the PhD Fraud thinks he is in the same
category as notables like John Romero, because John Romero was
excluded, the PhD fraud was also excluded based upon the same 'careful
criteria'. Sheesh, what a delusional twit. Someone wants to forward
this to John Romero's email? I'd guess Romero will want to make the
PhD Fraud his bitch after he dares to place himself in the same league
as Romero.
Allan Parent
> Apart from that, I would be *extremely* intimidated even if I were
> included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
> mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
> Roberta etc. C'mon, when these folks started out making games, I
> didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
> majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
> life.
You still do not know the difference between your ass and your elbow.
Heck you can add good manners to that also.
> Invite Derek Smart? No thanks. I'm perfectly happy keeping that issue
> as a collector's item. Besides, what would they [PC Gamer] write under
> my photo? Considering that I only have 2 titles, with my first, thanks
> to Take Two, being an inexcusable failure, what would they write?
>
Two titles? How about 1/2 of a title. Since when does a mediocre BC2K
version 2.07 qualify as a second title? Do not blame Take Two again.
That was your fault. What would they write about? How about you being a
whining, paranoid, delusional, rude person? If it were not for the
flames, you would be all but a forgotten entity.
Allan
jackyo
Derek Smart wrote in message <37a94500...@news.mindspring.com>...
>The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
>they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
>and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
>under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
>what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
>
>included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
>mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
>Roberta etc. C'mon, when these folks started out making games, I
>didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
>majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
>life.
WOW !
Derek, this is by far the best and most humble post you have *EVER* made !
THIS is the kind of post that wins you respect ! No shit, I am impressed.
Keep it up !
Dr. DSMART666
Is it still moving?
I think we killed it.
scharmers wrote in message <7o4pu8$251$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
> Derek will never be a success. Perserverance is all very well and
>good, and something to respect, but the talent and skill must be
>there. Derek has perserverance, but no talent and less skill. Keep
>chipping away at that mountain with your spoon, Derek -- the spoon is
>eventually going to break, and the mountain will still be there. So
>will the people poking at you through your cage.
>
>--
>--Watch yourself,
>--scharmers
>
>
Paul Gifford
Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:37a9a4e3...@news.mindspring.com...
.
>
> Besides, I'm young and I have a long way to go and a lot of time to
> add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
> million seller.
No man knows how much time he has...
p
**Anthony**
Talent and Creativity.
John Romero? What a joke that guy is, almost a big a joke as you. Daikatana?
Pfffft!
Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:37a94500...@news.mindspring.com...
> On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:14:32 -0400, "Avenger"
> <mikea...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >The guys at PC Gamer seem to hate Derek with a passion. I'm not suprised
at
> >all.
>
> I can't be bothered with that PC Gamer crap anymore anyway. Besides,
> as a developer, I have met with and/or spoken to most of the
> developers (those in the article) and other notables in the industry
> at some point or another. Talk about peer pressure.
>
> The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
> they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
> and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
> under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
> what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
>
> Apart from that, I would be *extremely* intimidated even if I were
> included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
> mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
> Roberta etc. C'mon, when these folks started out making games, I
> didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
> majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
> life.
>
> Invite Derek Smart? No thanks. I'm perfectly happy keeping that issue
> as a collector's item. Besides, what would they [PC Gamer] write under
> my photo? Considering that I only have 2 titles, with my first, thanks
> to Take Two, being an inexcusable failure, what would they write?
>
Derek Smart
wrote:
>
>Derek Smart wrote in message <37a94500...@news.mindspring.com>...
>>The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
>>they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
>>and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
>>under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
>>what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
>>
>>Apart from that, I would be *extremely* intimidated even if I were
>>included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
>>mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
>>Roberta etc. C'mon, when these folks started out making games, I
>>didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
>>majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
>>life.
>
>WOW !
>
>Derek, this is by far the best and most humble post you have *EVER* made !
>
>THIS is the kind of post that wins you respect ! No shit, I am impressed.
>
>Keep it up !
uhm, its the truth about how I feel about it. Yes, I recognize it as
troll bait (because I'm the *last* person anyone would expect on that
list anyway) but I felt like posting how I felt about it and be done
with it. From the looks of all the red slashed circles (morons in
killfiles) in Agent, I can tell that the Usual Suspects are in full
swing no doubt. Regardless, I've said what I wanted to say about it.
Besides, I'm young and I have a long way to go and a lot of time to
add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
million seller.
Derek Smart, Ph.D.
bc3...@my-deja.com
dsm...@pobox.com wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:14:32 -0400, "Avenger"
> <mikea...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >The guys at PC Gamer seem to hate Derek with a passion. I'm not suprised at
> >all.
>
> I can't be bothered with that PC Gamer crap anymore anyway. Besides,
snip
>
> Invite Derek Smart? No thanks. I'm perfectly happy keeping that issue
> as a collector's item. Besides, what would they [PC Gamer] write under
> my photo? Considering that I only have 2 titles,
What are the 2 titles, Derek? BC3000 I know about, what other title have you
got? BC3020 is still only a few raytraces and it will probably always be
Vapourware, so that doesnt count, so what other titles have you got??
> with my first, thanks
> to Take Two, being an inexcusable failure,
So Take2 were responsible for the fact that you still havent actually
finished BC3000 with all the features you hyped, The Manual was so late even
after you gave your word it would be?? Why cannot you accept any blame
yourself, you and only you are responsible for the fuckup.
> what would they write?
How about: Derek Smart, Ph.D.Fraud Designer/Lead Developer of one of the
biggest pieces of crap ever called a game, Bankrupt, Racist, Proven liar
Paranoid Dress sense of a Pox Doctors Clerk User of so many Sock Puppets can
not find a pair to wear on his feet Thong Wearer Owner of Sycophant Dan
Stalker friend" of the DA, CIA, FBI...
Just to name a few things You are.
nobr...@unleesrjed.clampet
wrote:
>On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:48:03 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
>wrote:
>>The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
>>they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
>>and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
>>under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
>>what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
>
>Doesn't this sound like the PhD Fraud thinks he is in the same
>category as notables like John Romero, because John Romero was
>excluded, the PhD fraud was also excluded based upon the same 'careful
>criteria'. Sheesh, what a delusional twit. Someone wants to forward
>this to John Romero's email? I'd guess Romero will want to make the
>PhD Fraud his bitch after he dares to place himself in the same league
>as Romero.
>
Man Jimbo , you never fail to live up... or down , to my suspicions.
...ie , That , despite living in Hawaii , you have as much
know how / chance , of bagging a Bikini clad babe , as a dyslexic has
of reading the OED without having a fit.
All the best . Are the pineapples still ripe ?
Joe
Jimmy Chan
>On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 20:55:22 GMT, jimmy@*nospam*hgea.org (Jimmy Chan)
>wrotf:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:48:03 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
>>wrote:
>>>The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
>>>they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
>>>and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
>>>under their belt, were'nt invited. And that alone lends credence to
>>>what I said about the criteria that was used to chose them.
>>
>>Doesn't this sound like the PhD Fraud thinks he is in the same
>>category as notables like John Romero, because John Romero was
>>excluded, the PhD fraud was also excluded based upon the same 'careful
>>criteria'. Sheesh, what a delusional twit. Someone wants to forward
>>this to John Romero's email? I'd guess Romero will want to make the
>>PhD Fraud his bitch after he dares to place himself in the same league
>>as Romero.
>
>From what I hear about Romero they are in the same league.
>They're both ass holes.
Ah, but at least Romero has a positive background in actually
producing a successful game. What does the PhD Fraud have for his
background, a POS game, intellectual dishonesty, grandiose claims and
boasts but none proven or seen the light of day, a bankrupcty filing,
etc.
Derek Smart
wrote:
>The men you mentioned have two things you dont.
>
>Talent and Creativity.
>
>John Romero? What a joke that guy is, almost a big a joke as you. Daikatana?
>Pfffft!
.....and what have you done lately?
*plonk*
bp
wrote:
>Besides, I'm young and I have a long way to go and a lot of time to
>add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
>million seller.
It's always nice to have a dream.
Hey Someday you might even have a PhD !!
bp
<paul.g...@ibm.take.me.outta.here.net> wrote:
>
>Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote in message
>news:37a9a4e3...@news.mindspring.com...
>.
>>
>> Besides, I'm young and I have a long way to go and a lot of time to
>> add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
>> million seller.
>
> No man knows how much time he has...
Matter o fact JFK jr said the same thing, about being young that is,
only a few weeks before the crash when asked if he might someday run
for president.
>
>p
>
>
PJL
> >add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
> >million seller.
> Hey Someday you might even have a PhD !!
Well those Taco Supreames are moving pretty fast, now that that cute dog
is so popular.
(sorry, couldn't resist)
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>bp wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 02:31:45 GMT, dsm...@pobox.com (Derek Smart)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Besides, I'm young and I have a long way to go and a lot of time to
>> >add more titles to my portfolio and hopefully one day, I'll have a
>> >million seller.
>> It's always nice to have a dream.
>> Hey Someday you might even have a PhD !!
>
>Well those Taco Supreames are moving pretty fast, now that that cute dog
>is so popular.
>(sorry, couldn't resist)
Can you guess the dogs name ? It begins with D ends with N and is
three letters.
Gary Hladik
>On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:53:43 -0400, PJL <"do$feratu"@m$n.com> wrote:
[snip]
>>Well those Taco Supreames are moving pretty fast, now that that cute dog
>>is so popular.
>>(sorry, couldn't resist)
>Can you guess the dogs name ? It begins with D ends with N and is
>three letters.
I hate myself for it, but I laughed out loud at this one! :-)
Gary
Bill Huffman
wrote:
>If you ever had one of those dogs, you'd have to admit that they fit
>him to a T, it says the same thing over and over again. Hey Sixball,
>go push his buttons again and watch him say the same thing again, not
>the cute dog.
Hey weren't you guys aware that he has been cremated? Sorry if I ruined
everyone's fun. We can hope that he'll pull the phoenix from the ashes
bit and come back in his full hypocrite glory. BTW, if anyone else is
addicted to hypocritium and would like some of his ashes just send me
email. (Rereading the old posts just wears off after a while.)
Jimmy Chan
Atreides
Derek Smart <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote
> The PC Gamer boycott aside, my place was not in that spread because
> they selected those 25 based on a careful criteria. Heck, John Romero
> and a whole bunch of the 'New Breed' who have million unit sellers
> under their belt, were'nt invited.
Romero wasn't invited because any fame he has is a result of self-promotion.
It is common knowledge that he was asked to leave id because he was dicking
around too much playing multiplayer games and bragging about how great Quake
was going to be.
His inabilty to produce a game that impresses anybody (every showing at E3
is a disaster for him)
only proves id did the right thing.
Some great level designs in Doom hardly puts him on par - let alone anywhere
near -
Garriot, Molyneux, Meier, and Carmack, and Williams.
And no, I'm not going to pretend I'm buddies with them by referring to them
by their first names.
WLambrukos
>
>> Apart from that, I would be *extremely* intimidated even if I were
>> included in such company under that particular 'Gaming Gods' banner. I
>> mean, think about this for a minute: Richard, Sid, John, Peter,
>> didn't know my ass from my elbow and I was in some college or another
>> majoring in on how I plan on fucking up the next 7 or 8 years of my
>> life.
>
>Heck you can add good manners to that also.
>
>> as a collector's item. Besides, what would they [PC Gamer] write under
>> to Take Two, being an inexcusable failure, what would they write?
>>
>
>Two titles? How about 1/2 of a title. Since when does a mediocre BC2K
>version 2.07 qualify as a second title? Do not blame Take Two again.
>That was your fault. What would they write about? How about you being a
>whining, paranoid, delusional, rude person? If it were not for the
>flames, you would be all but a forgotten entity.
>
>Allan<<
I figured Allan might be in Derwood's kill file, so here is an opportunity for
him to read it.