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RICHARD KENAN

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Sep 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/5/95
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OK, I admit that I'm playing a really old game. However, I'm totally
stuck on one side quest.

The Temple of Dala to the west of Eldpoint needs a bag of grain. I
met one of the Halfgate sisters, who says she'll give me a bag of
grain if I give her a set of leather leggings. I cannot find any
leather leggings. How do I get them? I've looked all over the
northern parts of the Kingdom, and not met anybody who can help me.
I understand another Halfgate sister will help me, but the only one
I can find is Thea, who just wanted weaponcraft training, and gave
me a crossbow for it. Where (exactly) is the person who can help me
with this quest? Please give precise directions, I can't really use
directions like "She's in a house between Eldpoint and Northwarden,"
or any such vague directions. Still, if there's no other option, I
guess a bit of a minor hint is better than nothing.

Oh, and I'm in chapter 1. Is it possible to solve this quest in this
chapter?

Just me.

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Steve Amburgy

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Sep 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/6/95
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On 5 Sep 1995, RICHARD KENAN wrote:

> The Temple of Dala to the west of Eldpoint needs a bag of grain. I
> met one of the Halfgate sisters, who says she'll give me a bag of
> grain if I give her a set of leather leggings. I cannot find any
> leather leggings. How do I get them? I've looked all over the
> northern parts of the Kingdom, and not met anybody who can help me.

I'm having the same problem. If anyone knows the solution PLEASE
post it here or send it to me too.

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Neutronium Dragon

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Sep 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/6/95
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In article <42ibab$7...@catapult.gatech.edu>, eef...@acmex.gatech.edu (RICHARD KENAN) says:

>OK, I admit that I'm playing a really old game. However, I'm totally
>stuck on one side quest.
>

>The Temple of Dala to the west of Eldpoint needs a bag of grain. I
>met one of the Halfgate sisters, who says she'll give me a bag of
>grain if I give her a set of leather leggings. I cannot find any
>leather leggings. How do I get them? I've looked all over the
>northern parts of the Kingdom, and not met anybody who can help me.

>I understand another Halfgate sister will help me, but the only one
>I can find is Thea, who just wanted weaponcraft training, and gave
>me a crossbow for it. Where (exactly) is the person who can help me
>with this quest? Please give precise directions, I can't really use
>directions like "She's in a house between Eldpoint and Northwarden,"
>or any such vague directions. Still, if there's no other option, I
>guess a bit of a minor hint is better than nothing.
>
>Oh, and I'm in chapter 1. Is it possible to solve this quest in this
>chapter?

The sister you're looking for lives in a house on the road between Highcastle
and Wolfram. (Just go E from Highcastle until you see a house on the south side
of the road.) Problem: She isn't at home in Chapter 1. You'll have to wait
and do it in Chapter 2 or 3. (Don't leave it longer than that. From Chapter 4
onwards, you won't be able to get there.)

Neutronium Dragon
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Neutronium Dragon

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Sep 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/6/95
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.950906...@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu>, Steve Amburgy <samb...@umd.umich.edu> says:
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>On 5 Sep 1995, RICHARD KENAN wrote:
>
>> The Temple of Dala to the west of Eldpoint needs a bag of grain. I
>> met one of the Halfgate sisters, who says she'll give me a bag of
>> grain if I give her a set of leather leggings. I cannot find any
>> leather leggings. How do I get them? I've looked all over the
>> northern parts of the Kingdom, and not met anybody who can help me.
>
> I'm having the same problem. If anyone knows the solution PLEASE
>post it here or send it to me too.

I just posted it in this thread. Hint: Before entering the temple with the
bag of grain, go to your stats screen, select Defense, and unselect
everything else. Do this for everyone. When you're asked who shall receive
the boon, hit cancel. Everyone will receive it that way. :) (And with defense
selected exclusively on everyone, they'll get about 50% more of an improve
than they would otherwise. Extremely helpful.)

Neutronium Dragon

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Sep 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/9/95
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In article <Edmund.Chia-...@wanda.antcrc.utas.edu.au>, Edmun...@iasos.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia) says:
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>Is Owyn's staff good for anything besides hitting people?
>
>Edmund

Nope. The other three types, Lightning, Crystalline, and Macros each have a special
attack or power, but Owyn's staff is just a plain old piece of wood. It can be sold
for about 5 sovereigns, I think, so once you get ahold of a lightning staff, toss
it.

Edmund Chia

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Sep 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/9/95
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Lord Soth

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Edmun...@iasos.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia) wrote:

>Is Owyn's staff good for anything besides hitting people?

No, but the crystal staff and Pug's staff (or should I say Macros' staff?) serve
very useful purposes.

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lone...@mindlink.bc.ca

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Sep 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/12/95
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OK, like is there a figure as to how much money one needs? I mean, here are
Gorath and Owyn, running around rebuilding the bankroll, and there's plenty
of sovereigns to make here..i'm at 9K, and am getting tired of spending all
my playing time doing salvage runs back and forth. You see, i've got mostly
reasonable equipment now (at least compared to what i could purchase), and
it's all blessed up, so what else am i going to need money for? Food, light
and assorted enhancers/blockers keep coming my way through salvage, so i've
never needed to buy anything (other than a few Pools of Infinity) in a
while.

So when can i give up this obsessive hoarding and just focus on the
adventure? Some guidelines would ease me considerably...i would hate to
have to back up several chapters, or have to avoid doing certain things
just because i was tired of making hay while the sun shined.

== wolf


Sean Fister

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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First of all what chapter are you in? If you have 9k and you are in chapter 6
then you have plenty. What kind of weapons do you have? Do you have at least
the sword of Lims Krigma? Do you have the type of crossbow you want with
plenty of elven quarrels? You will need at least eighty or so. You might want
to keep a significant amount of money around in case you want to go back after
you find Guarda Ravanche to have it blessed. It doesn't need it but it
certainly wouldn't hurt though it would be a pain. If you have plenty of food,
restoratives, antidote, and a couple of amulets of the upright man for Owyn to
improve his lockpicking ability. It helps to have a hundred percent to get
into some very nasty chests in Chapter 9. You die if you can't disarm them.

Is this enough info? If not repost or write me.
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Dan Hunter

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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lone...@mindlink.bc.ca wrote:

>OK, like is there a figure as to how much money one needs? I mean, here are
>Gorath and Owyn, running around rebuilding the bankroll, and there's plenty
>of sovereigns to make here..i'm at 9K, and am getting tired of spending all
>my playing time doing salvage runs back and forth.

Well stop then!
It sounds like you're on Chapter 4, am I right?
Basically, you do not need that much money. Infact except for saving up for the
odd special item you should spend it on food and restoratives and potions. I
don't think that I ever needed to make an effort to get money, it just kinda
happened. Do as many sidequests as possible and you'll get money and some unique
equipment. If your characters have all got Grey Tower (or if you're far enough
on in the game, Dragon Plate) and they should have swords from sidequests like
the griefmaker and a greatsword (which kick a lot of ass). If you're *really*
rich then go to a good temple (like tith, killian or Linskrama(sp?)) and get all
their stuff level 3 blessed.
If you're gonna need a lot of money the game will give you an easy way to get it
(this happens in Chap5 BTW).
GO buy all the spells that you can find for owyn, some are pretty cool and
useful.

>So when can i give up this obsessive hoarding and just focus on the
>adventure? Some guidelines would ease me considerably...i would hate to
>have to back up several chapters, or have to avoid doing certain things
>just because i was tired of making hay while the sun shined.

Start on playing the story. As you said, it's obsessive :) And not that
important.

BTW I'm replaying it right now doing all the side quests, I decided to sell
off a load of plunder and ended up with 7K. Unfortunatley when i ended the
current chapter, due to plot twists I lost the whole lot :(

Later
Dan
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What's good as a snack, and fits on your back? It's Log, Log, Log!
It's Looo-og, It's Looo-og, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood!
It's Looo-og, It's Looo-og, it better than bad- it's good!"
D.Hu...@dunaad.co.uk


Sean Fister

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Sep 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/15/95
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The Motherlode chest can only store so much. It like any other chest is
limited in storage.

Edmund Chia

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Sep 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/19/95
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Does anyone know what the tuning fork is for? Thanks.

Edmund

Neutronium Dragon

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Sep 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/19/95
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In article <436ngl$s...@atlantic.centre.edu>, Sean Fister <fis...@centre.edu> says:
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>First of all what chapter are you in? If you have 9k and you are in chapter 6
>then you have plenty. What kind of weapons do you have? Do you have at least
>the sword of Lims Krigma? Do you have the type of crossbow you want with
>plenty of elven quarrels? You will need at least eighty or so. You might want
>to keep a significant amount of money around in case you want to go back after
>you find Guarda Ravanche to have it blessed. It doesn't need it but it
>certainly wouldn't hurt though it would be a pain. If you have plenty of food,
>restoratives, antidote, and a couple of amulets of the upright man for Owyn to
>improve his lockpicking ability. It helps to have a hundred percent to get
>into some very nasty chests in Chapter 9. You die if you can't disarm them.
>
>Is this enough info? If not repost or write me.

Actually, I think Gorath's base lockpicking skill is higher than Owyn's. I never
bothered with the crossbow myself, certainly not carrying that many quarrels around,
although one bundle of elven or magic ones is useful just in case.
I think the Guarda Revance is already blessed, type 3, at least it always has been
for me.
Restoratives, yes. Make sure you've got lots of bottles of it, you will need it.
A powder bag would be handy as well, if you have one, keep it.
Also, make sure you've got rope! You'll need it in Chapter 9, and getting ahold of
rope after Chapter 6 is darn near impossible.
One final thing: If you haven't yet, scour the lower areas of the Dwarven Tunnels.
In a chest down there somewhere is a spell called Touch of Lims Kragma. It kills
almost any opponent with one casting of it. There's a couple of critters which are
immune to the effect, but everything else is auto-killed. The final battle of
Chapter 9 includes a couple of Dreads, and they're a major pain to take down, but
Touch works wonderfully on them. >:)

Matt Jusinski mntr stnd

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Sep 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/25/95
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The only thing I ever used it for was in that side-quest with the bag o'
grain and leggings.

***
Dan

Neutronium Dragon

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Sep 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/27/95
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The tuning fork does have another use. When you get attacked by trolls, go
into your inventory and use it. It'll ping, and the trolls will run away.

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Kalten

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Oct 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/23/95
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: I think the Guarda Revance is already blessed, type 3, at least it
: always has been for me.
For ther record, I don't think that the Guarda sword comes blessed.
I remember coming back from Elvandar with it and selling it in the shops so
that I could repurchase multiple copies of the sword so that I could leave
a few lying around to give to Locklear and the others.
I remember myself saying:
"Oh phuck, I forgot to bless it first."

Having said that I don't remember missing very often with that sword.

: Neutronium Dragon
: alfred...@cyberstore.ca

By the way Neutronium Dragon, have you done everything possible in BAK?
There are a couple of things I didn't get round to doing but can't be
arsed to go back to.

The first is that there is an entrance in a place near the centre of the map.
Slightly west of the Dimwood forest. I cannot remember exactly where it is.
But I can't enter it. It says that there is something magical blocking
it I think.

And I dropped that note that allows you to pass it. Any ideas?
Also, James doppelganger. What effect does it have on the game? The
place where you go into the theatre or meeting place.

Anyway, it's been a good six months since I played that game and I can't
remember the details too well except that itwas one of the best games
that I had played in a long time.

Kalten~!!!

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