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Joe Six Pack

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Nov 30, 2003, 12:04:34 PM11/30/03
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Is there some trick to enchanting weapons and armor?

I have a level 7 Cleric of Moradin, trying to enchant a variety of
Masterwork Items for my party. Regardless of what I do, I can't seem to
select anything more than a +1 enchantment on anything. All of the
neato effects like shocking burst, icy, etc. are greyed out. The manual
mentions material ingredients -- am I supposed to have special items in
my inventory to get these effects? Or should I have given this feat to
my Sorcerer instead? (ie,. can cast fireball so can enchant a flaming
weapon?)

Any help would be appreciated!

Hong Ooi

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Dec 1, 2003, 1:51:22 AM12/1/03
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Make sure you have the correct prerequisite spells in your spell lists.

Flaming/flaming burst requires fireball, flame strike or flame blade; as a
cleric, you don't get either the 1st or the 3rd, so you have to use the
2nd. Unfortunately, flame strike is a 4th level spell, which you'll only
get once you hit 9th level.

Shocking/shocking burst requires call lightning or lightning bolt. Neither
of these are cleric spells, so you're SOL.

Frost/icy burst requires chill metal or ice storm. Again, neither of these
are cleric spells.

The best weapon enchantment a cleric can get is probably holy, which
requires holy smite. However, that's a spell from the Good domain, so you
need to choose that as one of your domains at character creation.


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Joe Six-Pack

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Dec 1, 2003, 12:54:54 PM12/1/03
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Aargh. I kinda thought this would be the case.
Thanks for the reply, Hong.

Bill Seurer

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Dec 1, 2003, 10:37:23 PM12/1/03
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Joe Six-Pack wrote:

> Aargh. I kinda thought this would be the case.
> Thanks for the reply, Hong.
>
> Hong Ooi wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:04:34 -0600, Joe Six Pack
>> <brog...@nospam.yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some trick to enchanting weapons and armor?
>>

>> The best weapon enchantment a cleric can get is probably holy, which
>> requires holy smite. However, that's a spell from the Good domain, so you
>> need to choose that as one of your domains at character creation.

This is hosed up BTW. In the "real" game someone else can cast the
prerequisite spells. So as long as anyone in your party knew the right
spells you should be set.


Hong Ooi

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Dec 2, 2003, 2:32:05 AM12/2/03
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:51:22 +1100, Hong Ooi <ho...@zipworld.com.au> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:04:34 -0600, Joe Six Pack
><brog...@nospam.yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>Is there some trick to enchanting weapons and armor?
>>
>>I have a level 7 Cleric of Moradin, trying to enchant a variety of
>>Masterwork Items for my party. Regardless of what I do, I can't seem to
>>select anything more than a +1 enchantment on anything. All of the
>>neato effects like shocking burst, icy, etc. are greyed out. The manual
>>mentions material ingredients -- am I supposed to have special items in
>>my inventory to get these effects? Or should I have given this feat to
>>my Sorcerer instead? (ie,. can cast fireball so can enchant a flaming
>>weapon?)
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated!
>
>Make sure you have the correct prerequisite spells in your spell lists.
>
>Flaming/flaming burst requires fireball, flame strike or flame blade; as a
>cleric, you don't get either the 1st or the 3rd, so you have to use the
>2nd. Unfortunately, flame strike is a 4th level spell, which you'll only
>get once you hit 9th level.

Whoops, that should be "...5th level spell".

Joe Six-Pack

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Dec 2, 2003, 11:06:08 AM12/2/03
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Yes exactly. My gnome sorcerer can cast both fireball and lightning
bolt which should allow enchantment....but no. Dwarven cleric can only
enchant armor and/or weapons up to +1 -- not even +2 or +3, though I
imagine this will change as I get closer to the level 10 cap?
Still another oddity: the cleric can enchant an already magical item
further. Lareth's breastplate +1 allows the enchanting option for Spell
Resistance 14 or silent movement, but not +2 or +3 bonus. Very strange,
and the manual gives absolutely no advice in this regard...

Bill Seurer

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Dec 2, 2003, 8:05:25 PM12/2/03
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Joe Six-Pack wrote:
> Yes exactly. My gnome sorcerer can cast both fireball and lightning
> bolt which should allow enchantment....but no. Dwarven cleric can only
> enchant armor and/or weapons up to +1 -- not even +2 or +3, though I
> imagine this will change as I get closer to the level 10 cap?
> Still another oddity: the cleric can enchant an already magical item
> further. Lareth's breastplate +1 allows the enchanting option for Spell
> Resistance 14 or silent movement, but not +2 or +3 bonus. Very strange,
> and the manual gives absolutely no advice in this regard...

You need different spells to get different enchantments. The +2 and +3
might only be available when you have Greater Magic Weapon. The amount
of XP you have above what you needed to get to your last level is also a
consideration. Yes, if you just go up a level suddenly you can't
enchant anything anymore.

Joe Six-Pack

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Dec 3, 2003, 1:28:24 PM12/3/03
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Ahh, yes I do believe the experience thing is the culprit here.

Thanks to all of you guys who responded -- I guess more familiarity with
3.5e is warranted. Just a little dismayed that none of this is
intuitively obvious or even made clear in the otherwise excellent manual...


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