Unfinished game you most want to finish
Nostromo
as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
For me it would have to be a toss up between Torment, VTMB & possibly
BG2:ToB, probably VTMB (1/2 way through Chinatown, so close, yet so
far...*wistful sigh*). Realistically, I think the ship has sailed; no matter
how much I may want to complete VTMB it probably just won't happen, for a
number of reasons. C'est la vie!
There are many, many runners up in my gaming portfolio, more's the pity, & I
haven't counted mmos, unless you consider dinging max level as some sort of
achievement tantamount to 'finishing' the game (I don't ;).
Honourable mentions: Gothic 3, Guild Wars:Nightfall (there's still time!:),
Jedi Outcast, Kotor, Nexus:TJI, Oblivion (kidding!:), OpFlash:CWC, Rise of
Nations (all campaigns), Sanitarium, Stalker (may still do with 2009
TC/mod), Summoner, Titan Quest (kinda), Undying and The Witcher, maybe
Zanzarah. And there are probably just as many less memorable games I may
have sunk just as much time into, left unfinished, not to even mention the
number I started for an hour or two & promptly left behind. I also forget
how many adventure games or RTS titles I may have given a good go at the
time & just drifted away from over the years.
What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
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Nostromo
Zlatko Duric
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
>
Well, can't say it's a huge regret, as I'm only an occasional gamer, but
I think mine is TFE. The forests edge is a MUD - a text-only game. When
I talk about it to kids today, they laugh, then I fire up a telnet
client and connect and then their jaws hit the floor. A text-only bloody
game!!
Anyway, I played TFE on and off from 1996. Never had a character over
level 50 (of maximum 90). I think this is the biggest regret I have in
gaming.
I also regret (but only a little) for never taking the time to start and
finish a Master of Orion 2 at impossible and beat them all. This is not
really something I regret, but I spent bunch of time with it.
At the moment, I have a broken Windows installation with started Crysis,
level 30 something character in Anarchy Online, some other games too, I
am sure I will pass on these too. Well, that's understandable, I don't
spend so much time with a computer any more... I hate jobs, I want to
win a small lottery. Not a big one, then I'd have to go on trips, buying
islands and stuff, but a small one. Just enough to start a company and
play new games in work hours and have people work for me :)
--
Zlatlo
Werner Spahl
> Realistically, I think the ship has sailed; no matter how much I may
> want to complete VTMB it probably just won't happen, for a number of
> reasons.
What are these? Granted, the endgame is more fighting than the rest, but
you'll miss some of the coolest endings ever, in case you didn't already
watch them on YouTube. I myself was very surprised and had a good laugh!
--
Dr. Werner Spahl (sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
Wesp5 @ Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Vorlonships
Magnate
> Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time
> into,
> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
>
> For me it would have to be a toss up between Torment, VTMB & possibly
> BG2:ToB, probably VTMB (1/2 way through Chinatown, so close, yet so
> far...*wistful sigh*). Realistically, I think the ship has sailed; no
> matter
> how much I may want to complete VTMB it probably just won't happen, for a
> number of reasons. C'est la vie!
We remain distressingly similar - mine is BG2:ToB I think. I got all the way
to the Irenicus fight at the end of SoA, and never even started ToB. I think
that box is now dead, so the chances of me reinstalling it are slim.
> There are many, many runners up in my gaming portfolio, more's the pity, &
> I
> haven't counted mmos, unless you consider dinging max level as some sort
> of
> achievement tantamount to 'finishing' the game (I don't ;).
>
> Honourable mentions: Gothic 3, Guild Wars:Nightfall (there's still
> time!:),
> Jedi Outcast, Kotor, Nexus:TJI, Oblivion (kidding!:), OpFlash:CWC, Rise of
> Nations (all campaigns), Sanitarium, Stalker (may still do with 2009
> TC/mod), Summoner, Titan Quest (kinda), Undying and The Witcher, maybe
> Zanzarah. And there are probably just as many less memorable games I may
> have sunk just as much time into, left unfinished, not to even mention the
> number I started for an hour or two & promptly left behind. I also forget
> how many adventure games or RTS titles I may have given a good go at the
> time & just drifted away from over the years.
But that doesn't really matter, does it? I often find myself struggling to
"finish" a game, when actually I'm no longer enjoying it much if at all.
Much better to leave games unfinished and go on to something more enjoyable.
Civ is like that for me. I love Civ, for the first 2/3 of a game. Then it
becomes stultifying hassle turn after turn, and I give up without finishing.
Next time I feel like some Civ, the idea of finishing the previous game
fills me with dread, so I start a new one.
Come to think of it, most strategy games are like that. It's only RPGs where
I want to get to the end of the story, hence BG2 being my big regret.
Interesting that you should mention TQ. I got this recently (with expansion)
and am really enjoying it. Just got my first char to the main boss (Typhon),
and can't scratch him. Clearly lots more to learn here ...!
CC
Vincenzo Beretta
did a lot of the other two plus the expansion. The problem is not one of
will, but the fact that the servers are now quite desolate and I don't like
soloing in GW.
Among the games you miss, "Sanitarium" is really short. I remember finishing
it in two days back in the day, so it is a good candidate for an all-out
assault.
Warren
[snip]
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
Dragon Age. I was looking forward to this for years, am about 2/3 of the
way through, and every time I fire it up now it's just... Meh....
Thank god I've got Mass Effect 2 keeping me busy right now, or it's be
staring, disappointed at DA.
Mike S.
>Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
>as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
>but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
For me its Diablo 2. One of my favorite games ever and I have never
actually played several of the classes at all - and I don't think I
will now with Diablo 3 coming soon. Not to mention I am spending a lot
of time lately playing MMOs.
I will never hear the things the druid says at the various stages of
the game for instance. I will never know how much fun using minions to
fight for me with the Necro could be either. My problem was I spent
too much time playing different builds of the classes I did like. I
probably should have tried all the classes out once at least first.
Ah well, live and learn!
Jonathan Ellis
"Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
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> Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time
> into,
> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
Knights Of The Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords. Not because I failed to
finish the content, but because the *game* itself wasn't finished :P
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I keep wanting to start it and never succeeding.
I finally got around to finishing Dungeon Keeper 2, though...
-- Jonathan.
Andrew Rybenkov
2) Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness - got stuck on 1st super boss, and drop it for a while.
--
Andrew Rybenkov
MetalGuru
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for
> good?
There are many, the greatest probably being Gothic 3. I love the first
third of the game, but by the time you get to both the desert and the
snowy areas it just feels like a different game altogether and I lose
interest. I wish PB had been given the time to put as much care in those
two areas as they did in the first one. But i'll get back to it someday
and finish it.
Plus:
* PS: Torment - Yup, I also never finished it for some reason but I've
just started a new play with all fixes/mods and will go all the way this
time. The game feels and looks a million times better than the original
now, specially at higher resolutions and with bigger fonts.
* Jagged Alliance 2 - the game is just too hard and unforgiving,
specially towards the end, you have to keep reloading because one wrong
move and you're toast.
* Dungeon Siege - could never get past that stupid giant robot with a
flamethrower in the mines. Plus the levels are sofa king huge and
repetitive, they could have made them half their size and still be
larger than levels in most other games.
* Temple of Elemental Evil - game was just too darn buggy, save files
kept getting corrupted :-/
* Arcanum - game world is too sparse and gameplay too unbalanced; most
often too easy but then occasionally impossibly hard battles.
* Civilization/Colonization series - I can never finish a game for the
reasons already stated by Magnate: the endgame is more work than play
and rather than continuing I always end up starting a new game. My
favorite is Alpha Centauri by far and I did come very close to the end
once.
Matt v3.3
> * Arcanum - game world is too sparse and gameplay too unbalanced;
> most often too easy but then occasionally impossibly hard battles.
This was just released on GOG.com the other day and so I was reading
up on it. Looks to have a similar comprehensive level of fan patches
and tweaks as PST and BG2 (restored content, widescreen, high quality
maps and music, etc) Not sure if there are still balancing issues?
http://www.shsforums.net/topic/33528-arcanum-unofficial-patch-extras/
I'm tempted to grab it, might do so once I finish my current line-up
of games. :)
- Speaking of which, I'd have to go back many, many years to find a
game that I never got around finishing - probably Might & Magic 4+5
World of Xeen (~1995, game world was too f'king huge!)
Also I never got to Wing Commander 2 (~1992) because the third one
came out and it was too awesome to not play immediately. That always
irked me that I missed the continuity of the trilogy.
These days though I only start games that I know I'll be inclined and
able to finish, sooner or later. ;)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
> It's terribly dull in here, ain't it.
Shh! Nos is just bored because Bioware released yet another (by most
reports) highly-rated RPG he cannot enjoy on principle. ;-P
> My biggest regret? Descent: Freespace. That game really had a full
> head of steam going but I just lost the nerve. There was this mission
> called, IIRC, "Enter the Dragon," where you have to fly a modded
> Shivan fighter and snuggle up to the Lucifer while cloaked (maybe).
Yep. :) I just finished a replay of that campaign last night with
modded FS2. That mission was definitely the most intense. I actually
forgot the Lucifer jumped into that scenario and it scared the crap
out of me all over again. And then command has the nerve to ask you
to fly *inside* the fighter bay, and I'm like, "f*ck off, command!"
(LOL)
> Pretty intense stuff when you've got your surround sound, a force
> feedback stick, etc. I just couldn't do it.
There are some pretty neat stealthy missions in FS2 as well, but not
quite so nerve racking. Overall the mission design was much better I
thought. Did you ever give FS2 a spin? If not, I'd recommend it, plus
you can mod the heck out of its graphics -
http://www.fsoinstaller.com/
- or -
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,65038.0.html
(Around 570MB total download; another 403MB for the free FS1 Port -
you only need FS2 installed)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Vincenzo Beretta
"Zaghadka" <zagh...@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:17:43 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Vincenzo
> Beretta wrote:
>
>>My biggest regret, for sure, is "Guild Wars". I finished the first one and
>>did a lot of the other two plus the expansion. The problem is not one of
>>will, but the fact that the servers are now quite desolate and I don't
>>like
>>soloing in GW.
>
S*it happens :^D
Nostromo
+0100, Anno Domini:
>Nostromo wrote:
>
>> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
>>
>
>Well, can't say it's a huge regret, as I'm only an occasional gamer, but
>I think mine is TFE. The forests edge is a MUD - a text-only game. When
>I talk about it to kids today, they laugh, then I fire up a telnet
>client and connect and then their jaws hit the floor. A text-only bloody
>game!!
>Anyway, I played TFE on and off from 1996. Never had a character over
>level 50 (of maximum 90). I think this is the biggest regret I have in
>gaming.
Hey, my highest in Diablo 2, my all-time favourite time sink hands down, is
about 86 from memory (online hardcore). Only one in my family to a char to
99 was my wife (offline). What can I say? ;)
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Nostromo
Nostromo
14:50:41 +0100, Anno Domini:
>On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Nostromo wrote:
>
>> Realistically, I think the ship has sailed; no matter how much I may
>> want to complete VTMB it probably just won't happen, for a number of
>> reasons.
>
>What are these? Granted, the endgame is more fighting than the rest, but
>you'll miss some of the coolest endings ever, in case you didn't already
>watch them on YouTube. I myself was very surprised and had a good laugh!
Stop it you foul tempter! Actually, I still have it 'installed' (well,
copied to my Win7 box). I think it just pales now next to so many other
games I have outstanding & my time is so limited. I did fire it up on the
new rig, but honestly, it looked/played no better than on the old one, which
was a surprising disappointment. If only someone could/would update that
Source engine... ;)
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:17:43 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Vincenzo
>Beretta wrote:
>
>>My biggest regret, for sure, is "Guild Wars". I finished the first one and
>>did a lot of the other two plus the expansion. The problem is not one of
>>will, but the fact that the servers are now quite desolate and I don't like
>>soloing in GW.
>
>Sure. His favorite game EVAR. You kissing up? ;^)
:-p
I only finished Prophecies a year or two ago because someone here (Grant?
Joe?) helped me through the last 3 volcanic island levels. Too had on my own
with my DM necro (hardly any exploitable corpses) & I could never be fagged
re-specing & learning a high-level something else. Bit of an anticlimax in
the end anyway.
Nightfall is far superior imo especially with the Hero system - I'm at the
Desolation. I *will* finish this puppy one day, before they shut the server
down :).
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
Good luck. From all accounts, it may be 'meh' a lot sooner than 2/3 of the
way through <EG>.
Hey, I'm actually trying to play FO3 for shits & giggles (still haven't
gotten out of the vault), so who am I to speak? (shuddup Zag, just STFU!
:-p)
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:55:12 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>
>>Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
>>as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
>>but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
>
>For me its Diablo 2. One of my favorite games ever and I have never
>actually played several of the classes at all - and I don't think I
>will now with Diablo 3 coming soon. Not to mention I am spending a lot
>of time lately playing MMOs.
If you're a fan, you owe it to yourself to try MedianXL. Best mod/TC for D@
out there (haven't we had this conv already? ;).
I think the only class out of the 7 I didn't play much at all was the
Assassin. Only got a char to mid 30s in HC closed realms, which I played
almost exclusively after I finished the game once or twice offline/softcore.
>I will never hear the things the druid says at the various stages of
>the game for instance. I will never know how much fun using minions to
>fight for me with the Necro could be either. My problem was I spent
Oh yes. And you need patch 1.09d or earlier to really appreciate an army of
80+ minions as a zookeeper. :))) I feel for you...really.
>too much time playing different builds of the classes I did like. I
>probably should have tried all the classes out once at least first.
>
>Ah well, live and learn!
We'll see each other on the abortion that will be the new BattleNet, no
doubt ;).
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Nostromo
Nostromo
-0000, Anno Domini:
>
>"Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
>news:52fdm51li6trkq750...@4ax.com...
>> Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
>> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time
>> into,
>> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
>
>Knights Of The Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords. Not because I failed to
>finish the content, but because the *game* itself wasn't finished :P
>
>Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I keep wanting to start it and never succeeding.
ROFL - I've finally found someone who's (presumably) a TES fan, who I've
played more Oblivion of than them...& hated it! ;-p
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Nostromo
Nostromo
(UTC), Anno Domini:
>Nostromo wrote:
>
>> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for
>> good?
>
>There are many, the greatest probably being Gothic 3. I love the first
>third of the game, but by the time you get to both the desert and the
>snowy areas it just feels like a different game altogether and I lose
>interest. I wish PB had been given the time to put as much care in those
>two areas as they did in the first one. But i'll get back to it someday
>and finish it.
This was *exactly* my experience ;). Piddled around in the desert & bit,
tried to continue on a few occasions, game over. And I really wanted to see
the snowscapes of the north *sigh*. Anyone got a save game from some high
mountain pass or summit in G3? ;)
>Plus:
>
>* PS: Torment - Yup, I also never finished it for some reason but I've
>just started a new play with all fixes/mods and will go all the way this
>time. The game feels and looks a million times better than the original
>now, specially at higher resolutions and with bigger fonts.
I tried a year or two ago again with the WS mod (+ a shitload of others), to
no avail. Looks like my TNO is doomed to be stuck in upper/lower Curst (the
2nd one?) for all eternity :).
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Nostromo
Nostromo
2010 19:37:35 +1300, Anno Domini:
Now yer just either bullshitting us, or you make me sick Matt. It's not
healthy, a completist attitude like that. ;-p
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:55:12 +1100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
>wrote:
>
>>Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
>>as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
>>but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
>>
>It's terribly dull in here, ain't it.
>
>My biggest regret? Descent: Freespace. That game really had a full head of
>steam going but I just lost the nerve. There was this mission called, IIRC,
>"Enter the Dragon," where you have to fly a modded Shivan fighter and snuggle
>up to the Lucifer while cloaked (maybe).
>
>Pretty intense stuff when you've got your surround sound, a force feedback
>stick, etc. I just couldn't do it.
Add Freespace2 to my list then. Best space sim(-ish) game I've played (not
counting Elite 2 :). Only got half way for some reason. I think I finished
X-Wing all those years ago...can't recall any other major space sims I got a
decent way into that I could claim to be 'unfinished'. Did you play I-War?
Great reviews, just never got around to trying it.
>As for yours, BG2:ToB was a suck fest. That's why you didn't finish it. When
>they're passing out *+3 missiles* in the first chapter you know your combat
>model has jumped the shark and the only way to increase challenge is cheese. I
>suppose the story might have been fun to finish but the gameplay was the pits.
Heh, is there a god mode? <G>. I heard there was an unofficial comp for
fastest run-through of BG2 which some guy did with a totally pimped up
Berserker from the start, ironman style, max level cap, top gear, I think it
was around 3 hrs. Sickening.
>I did start the original Baldur's as a Wild Mage with BG2:ToB and EasyTutu. Got
>all the way up to the conspirators and Sarevok and quit for the same reason.
>For some reason, those BioWare titles all went over-the-top at the endgame.
Really, they were AD&D 2nd Ed spellcasting on roids, more like paper,
scissors, rock with the counterspell implementations. Really didn't like
those.
>VTMB? Buggy McBuggerson. I couldn't get the thing to run. I kept CTDing all the
>time with sound problems. Probably Creative labs' fault, but damn that thing
>was a mess. Someday I'll pick it back up with Werner's latest, but I'm guessing
>by that time its Source engine graphics will lack punch.
Get a decent new rig with onboard sound (piss off the audio h/ware), stick
on Win7, install VMTB & voilla! ;-p *duck*
>Torment is worth finishing. Go to a web site and read about it from where you
>left off. It's about the same experience as actually finishing the game. ;^)
I've actually got that fan novel - tx for reminding me! :)
>Oh. I also regret never having finished Activision's Hacker on the C=64. That
>game was wicked cool, but I never did figure out what was happening in
>Australia. Too damned hard.
Not much has changed. <BFG>
>Anyone know how Hacker ends?
NFI. I'm in IT - why would I want to play a game about that shit? ;-p
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Nostromo
Zlatko Duric
> Hey, my highest in Diablo 2, my all-time favourite time sink hands down, is
> about 86 from memory (online hardcore). Only one in my family to a char to
> 99 was my wife (offline). What can I say? ;)
>
Yeah, I get the point. My wife also has that focusing ability and
determination to "finish" the game, to persist in grinding for exp and
all, while I'd go to some mindless exploration mini-project that'd take
me days and the only reward being a mapped out zone, a level 6 dagger
"which I'll use when I remort", or something stupid like that.
Nevertheless, I'm still sorry I haven't got to the top there.
--
Zlatko
Nostromo
2010 23:56:15 +1300, Anno Domini:
>Zaghadka typed:
>> It's terribly dull in here, ain't it.
>
>Shh! Nos is just bored because Bioware released yet another (by most
>reports) highly-rated RPG he cannot enjoy on principle. ;-P
In this case, I haven't played the first, so there! :-p
But I have it sitting on my desk, courtesy of my mate from the UK, ready to
fear, loathe & hate with a passion! :)
>> My biggest regret? Descent: Freespace. That game really had a full
>> head of steam going but I just lost the nerve. There was this mission
>> called, IIRC, "Enter the Dragon," where you have to fly a modded
>> Shivan fighter and snuggle up to the Lucifer while cloaked (maybe).
>
>Yep. :) I just finished a replay of that campaign last night with
>modded FS2. That mission was definitely the most intense. I actually
>forgot the Lucifer jumped into that scenario and it scared the crap
>out of me all over again. And then command has the nerve to ask you
>to fly *inside* the fighter bay, and I'm like, "f*ck off, command!"
>(LOL)
>
>> Pretty intense stuff when you've got your surround sound, a force
>> feedback stick, etc. I just couldn't do it.
>
>There are some pretty neat stealthy missions in FS2 as well, but not
>quite so nerve racking. Overall the mission design was much better I
>thought. Did you ever give FS2 a spin? If not, I'd recommend it, plus
>you can mod the heck out of its graphics -
>
>http://www.fsoinstaller.com/
>- or -
>http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,65038.0.html
>
>(Around 570MB total download; another 403MB for the free FS1 Port -
>you only need FS2 installed)
Yep, FS2 was the piece de resistance of space sims that were actually *fun*
to play. Has there been anything worth a shot since?
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Nostromo
Insane Ranter
> Nostromo wrote:
> > Hey, my highest in Diablo 2, my all-time favourite time sink hands down, is
> > about 86 from memory (online hardcore). Only one in my family to a char to
> > 99 was my wife (offline). What can I say? ;)
>
> Yeah, I get the point. My wife also has that focusing ability and
> determination to "finish" the game, to persist in grinding for exp and
> all
This is a female trait. Its why they excel at things like cashiers,
typing, sewing, etc. Repeating tasks that are done over and over
again. Its really why you see women excel in mmo's when you get them
to play as they all boil down to repeating the same thing over and
over again.
Mike S.
>If you're a fan, you owe it to yourself to try MedianXL. Best mod/TC for D@
>out there (haven't we had this conv already? ;).
I know about Median but the one my friends settled on was called
Eastern Sun. I think it is a similar mod in scope but I really have no
idea if one is truly better then the other.
>We'll see each other on the abortion that will be the new BattleNet, no
>doubt ;).
I'll be there but I expect it to be laggy as hell. :-P
WDS
> Only one in my family to a char to
> 99 was my wife (offline). What can I say? ;)
"I am lame but my wife isn't." :-)
Morgan
> Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
Knight of the Old Republic 2 , well, I'd like Obsidian to finish it
first. :-)
Justisaur
> Thus spake "Matt v3.3" <ethers.tra...@paradise.net.invalid>, Tue, 02 Feb
I don't think I've ever played FS2, I used to love space sims. WC3 I
think was the pinnacle. I occasionally pick one up and play it. Last
one I played was Dark Star One, which was alright. Nothing
spectacular, but quite playable.
I've got X2 last year out of the bargain bin, I installed it, but I
just couldn't play it. I think I am a graphics whore when it comes to
space sims, X2 just looks awful to me.
Jumpgate was (or is) very good, even though an MMO it played very well
comparing to old space sims with decent graphics. I guess it's still
up at
I guess they call it an "MMO flight sim in space." It's not like Eve
which is more like a traditional MMO set in space (I guess, haven't
got around to trying it). I'd recommend it to anyone who liked the
old space sims with about a 3 month sub, that's enough time to play it
through.
There's a new version being worked on, but I'm wondering if it's
Vaporware, as I heard about it a long time ago and it's still not out:
http://www.jumpgateevolution.com
- Justisaur
Warren
> Thus spake MetalGuru<nos...@mail.com>, Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:16:19 +0000
> (UTC), Anno Domini:
>
>> Nostromo wrote:
>>
>>> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for
>>> good?
>>
>> There are many, the greatest probably being Gothic 3. I love the first
>> third of the game, but by the time you get to both the desert and the
>> snowy areas it just feels like a different game altogether and I lose
>> interest. I wish PB had been given the time to put as much care in those
>> two areas as they did in the first one. But i'll get back to it someday
>> and finish it.
>
> tried to continue on a few occasions, game over. And I really wanted to see
> the snowscapes of the north *sigh*. Anyone got a save game from some high
> mountain pass or summit in G3? ;)
Mine too. While 3 does not make a good data set, it suggests something.
I really enjoyed the first part too, so it' kinda ticked me off when I
got to the desert.
MetalGuru
> MetalGuru wrote:
>
>>* Temple of Elemental Evil - game was just too darn buggy, save files
>>kept getting corrupted :-/
>
> Circle of Eight mods and the official patch will help a little with
> that, if it's really a regret.
> http://www.sorcerers.net/Games/ToEE/index_circle.php
Yea tried that, for some reason Co8 made things even worse in my case -
the game would slow down to a crawl and blue screen randomly (and quite
frequently) so I threw in the towell in disgust and never looked back.
I'll give it a whirl again on a different machine someday because I
found the game very enjoyable -- specially the 3.5 rules implementation
-- despite the complete lack of anything resembling a story.
MetalGuru
> MetalGuru typed:
>> * Arcanum - game world is too sparse and gameplay too unbalanced;
>> most often too easy but then occasionally impossibly hard battles.
>
> This was just released on GOG.com the other day and so I was reading
> up on it. Looks to have a similar comprehensive level of fan patches
> and tweaks as PST and BG2 (restored content, widescreen, high quality
> maps and music, etc) Not sure if there are still balancing issues?
>
> http://www.shsforums.net/topic/33528-arcanum-unofficial-patch-extras/
I think Ive tried an earlier version of that patch but I'm not 100%
sure, if I have time this weekend I might give it a shot. Thanks for
the link.
> Speaking of which, I'd have to go back many, many years to find a
> game that I never got around finishing - probably Might & Magic 4+5
> World of Xeen (~1995, game world was too f'king huge!)
That's amazing, I get around to finishing 1 out of every 20 games I
start, probably even less. I always end up either:
1- getting bored with it (most often the case)
2- getting stuck someplace that I can't continue due to a difficult
battle or a screw up of my own fault developing the character (less
often, and I hate leveling up) or
3- bugs and glitches that keep me from enjoying the game (much
less often).
Getting old and jaded don't help none either ;^)
Joe Mama
> Ok, so I'm bored. What's your single-most largest regret in gaming, as far
> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time into,
> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
>
> BG2:ToB, probably VTMB (1/2 way through Chinatown, so close, yet so
> far...*wistful sigh*). Realistically, I think the ship has sailed; no matter
> how much I may want to complete VTMB it probably just won't happen, for a
>
> There are many, many runners up in my gaming portfolio, more's the pity,& I
> haven't counted mmos, unless you consider dinging max level as some sort of
> achievement tantamount to 'finishing' the game (I don't ;).
>
> Honourable mentions: Gothic 3, Guild Wars:Nightfall (there's still time!:),
> Jedi Outcast, Kotor, Nexus:TJI, Oblivion (kidding!:), OpFlash:CWC, Rise of
> Nations (all campaigns), Sanitarium, Stalker (may still do with 2009
> TC/mod), Summoner, Titan Quest (kinda), Undying and The Witcher, maybe
> Zanzarah. And there are probably just as many less memorable games I may
> have sunk just as much time into, left unfinished, not to even mention the
> number I started for an hour or two& promptly left behind. I also forget
> how many adventure games or RTS titles I may have given a good go at the
> time& just drifted away from over the years.
>
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
>
get that finished one of these days, which will mean restarting, as that
was several PCs ago, and I'm sure the saves are long gone.
Nostromo
(PST), Anno Domini:
You male chauvinist pig! My wife would smack you in the mouth if she heard
this tripe, over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over again! ;-p
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
I'm with Ranty on this one ;-p
Their multi-tasking also only extends to picking up jars/cans off a
supermarket shelf with 2 hands & kids toys/shit from the living room floor.
Any *real*, cerebral multitasking & they're pants. :)
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:41:30 +1100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
>wrote:
>
>>Hey, I'm actually trying to play FO3 for shits & giggles (still haven't
>>gotten out of the vault), so who am I to speak? (shuddup Zag, just STFU!
>>:-p)
>
>And you paid for it. *duck*
Loaner disk from a work colleague in UK sent in overnight bag (along with
ME1). What was I thinking? :-/
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
(UTC), Anno Domini:
On this note, about the only game I played _most_ of without resorting to a
faq/cheat in the last 10+ years (since the internet really), is VTMB. It was
a conscious, deliberate decision not to spoil it as I had so many others.
I finally caved in the cemetery quest with my Tremere chick - I just
couldn't see a way to get to that top gate in time from the bottom one &
keep the zombies out. When I looked up a walkthrough they said it was a
bug/glitch in the game/quest & couldn't be done without a noclip/speed
cheat. Bugger. After that I got sloppy & looked at a few things without
trying for too long or hard. And, there I am, in Chinatown, 1/2 way done,
probably never to return *sigh*.
>3- bugs and glitches that keep me from enjoying the game (much
>less often).
>
>Getting old and jaded don't help none either ;^)
It's one & the same. I think we should start saving letter & just call it
'jolded' from now on <G>/
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:50:33 +1100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
>wrote:
>
>>Thus spake MetalGuru <nos...@mail.com>, Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:16:19 +0000
>>(UTC), Anno Domini:
>>
>>>Nostromo wrote:
>>>
>>>> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for
>>>> good?
>>>
>>>There are many, the greatest probably being Gothic 3. I love the first
>>>third of the game, but by the time you get to both the desert and the
>>>snowy areas it just feels like a different game altogether and I lose
>>>interest. I wish PB had been given the time to put as much care in those
>>>two areas as they did in the first one. But i'll get back to it someday
>>>and finish it.
>>
>>This was *exactly* my experience ;). Piddled around in the desert & bit,
>>tried to continue on a few occasions, game over. And I really wanted to see
>>the snowscapes of the north *sigh*. Anyone got a save game from some high
>>mountain pass or summit in G3? ;)
>
>Yeah, you'd think there'd be some kind of hint in-game, "Dude, the endgame is
>in the north, go to Varant first."
>
>I, because I break games regularly, went to the snowy mountains first, where
>one of the "follow me" quests took me through an entire herd of what looked
>like wooly rhinoceri. Guy runs right into them. Nice AI. Fail. Quit.
>
>I'll try and dig up the save games, if you don't mind digging my hero out of
>the permafrost. ;^)
>
>(P.S.: There's a goddmaned orc army on every summit up there)
He, he, cheers, but don't break yer back. After being away from the initial
'WOW!' factor & playthrough for 2+ mths, when I did come back & reinstalled
on my upgraded previous rig, the load times were no better & actually felt
worse. I just couldn't do it. But I might reinstall just to see Nordmar. I
know I had a helluva fun time just jumping/bouncing/climbing around the
hills of Myrtana like a spazz. All the collection & phat loot around the
place really felt like the best of a number of both words: SP & mmo,
scripted & sandbox crpgs. It's the last game I wasn't cynical about at all
(even though I didn't like G2 much & stopped shortly after getting to that
main city), probably because I had no expectations. And in spite of the bugs
& shortcomings, for some reason, it delivered in spades. What they should
have done is made the 3 zones in the game & the entire game the size of
Myrtana, not the behemoth it was, for my casual play liking anyway ;).
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
(PST), Anno Domini:
>I don't think I've ever played FS2, I used to love space sims. WC3 I
>think was the pinnacle. I occasionally pick one up and play it. Last
>one I played was Dark Star One, which was alright. Nothing
>spectacular, but quite playable.
Couldn't get into the WC games at all. They just didn't tickle my fancy
(hated that radar compass - god awful implementation IYAM!).
>I've got X2 last year out of the bargain bin, I installed it, but I
>just couldn't play it. I think I am a graphics whore when it comes to
>space sims, X2 just looks awful to me.
X3 looks great, especially Terran Conflict, but I can't get that to work in
Win7 for some reason, even with the new 2.5 patch *sigh*.
>Jumpgate was (or is) very good, even though an MMO it played very well
>comparing to old space sims with decent graphics. I guess it's still
>up at
>
>http://www.jossh.com
>
>I guess they call it an "MMO flight sim in space." It's not like Eve
>which is more like a traditional MMO set in space (I guess, haven't
>got around to trying it). I'd recommend it to anyone who liked the
>old space sims with about a 3 month sub, that's enough time to play it
>through.
>
>There's a new version being worked on, but I'm wondering if it's
>Vaporware, as I heard about it a long time ago and it's still not out:
>
>http://www.jumpgateevolution.com
Been keeping an eye on it, but ain't holding my breath, eh.
--
Nostromo
Maxim Popov
> as unfinished business goes? Perhaps something you sunk a lot of time
> into,
> but could never complete, for whatever reasons.
To me it must be Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant. I have progressed
quite far into this game and explored most of Lost Guardia before switching
to something equally worthwhile (IIRC, Betrayal at Krondor). COTDS was a
truly great game with a unique flavour and I really regret that I didn't
finish it at that time. I'd really like to play out different endings and
export the party to Wiz8 but I know I don't have guts to go back and replay
it again - it's so damn huge.
BG: SOA is still waiting for completion on my hard drive - I played all the
way to the Irenicus fight, then I just gave up because I couldn't find a way
to beat the sucker. Come to think of it, I've had strange relationship with
all Infinity Engine games - I really liked playing all of them but I never
finished any one of them in one go (even PS:T, which I consider the best
game ever made). It always took me at least three attempts to make it
through to the end.
Now here's an idea for another poll: old games you never played but you'd
really like to.
Mine would be:
- Star Control 2. Heard so many good things about this game, but I'm afraid
it would be too dated now.
- Wing Commander series. I played only WC5:Prophecy (and had a blast with
it) but I wish I played all of them in succession.
Matt v3.3
> Now yer just either bullshitting us, or you make me sick Matt. It's
> not healthy, a completist attitude like that. ;-p
I shit you not, but the downside? I've probably only experienced 10%
of the stuff you guys have. Seeing it takes longer to get to the next
game, I have a *huge* stash of games waiting - I've not even cracked
open the case of Fallout 2 yet (I know, the shame!) So not really as
sweet as it sounds, but on the other hand, if the nuclear apocalypse
happens tomorrow, I'm all set to game on until they open the vault. ;)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
> Hey, I'm actually trying to play FO3 for shits & giggles (still
> haven't gotten out of the vault), so who am I to speak? (shuddup
> Zag, just STFU! :-p)
Keep playing. Just think how more informed you'll be next time you
have to bash it. ;)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
> Did you play I-War? Great reviews, just never got around to trying it.
I did. :) Had to use a glide wrapper to even start the thing of course.
Loved it though. Real physics + huge variety of mission objectives =
unique game. On the flip side, difficulty + no saves during missions =
frustrating. So some missions were a real bugger to finish, and I had
to cheat more than a few times. (Not to mention an awful bug which made
your weapons ineffective on modern processors, I found out afterwards)
Still, if I-War got a modern remake along the lines of open source FS2,
it'd kick the ass off the genre. ;)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Nostromo
2010 19:11:34 +1300, Anno Domini:
Nail, head, 10,000PSI jackhammer! :)
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
LOL - better start stockin up on water, diesel & canned goods then man! ;)
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:58:17 +1300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Matt v3.3
>wrote:
>Man I loved space combat sims. R.I.P.
<EG> Did you ever try BC3/4K...? </EG> *duck*
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Nostromo
Nostromo
-0800, Anno Domini:
Hey! Get yer own thread, hijacker! ;-p
Old games I never played that I really wanted to...hmmm...let's see. I
honestly can't think of one. Probably some mmos more recently, but crpgs...I
think I really tried all of them I wanted to. I regret to some extent not
being able to appreciate & see the greatness in some of them that ppl here
do (BaK, Wasteland, Mule, Ultima series, TES, Wizardry, RoA, Civ, WC series,
etc), but most of that's just wistful nostalgia, not a real regret. Some of
those I even tried briefly & just knew they weren't going to be my cuppa. I
guess I'm lucky I've been able to afford (& in the more recent internet
years try-b4-I-buy) anything I've wanted to, right or wrong ;).
--
Nostromo
DMP
> On Feb 2, 8:03 am, Zlatko Duric <zladu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nostromo wrote:
>>> Hey, my highest in Diablo 2, my all-time favourite time sink hands down, is
>>> 99 was my wife (offline). What can I say? ;)
>> determination to "finish" the game, to persist in grinding for exp and
>> all
>
> This is a female trait. Its why they excel at things like cashiers,
> typing, sewing, etc. Repeating tasks that are done over and over
> again. Its really why you see women excel in mmo's when you get them
> to play as they all boil down to repeating the same thing over and
> over again.
As for being female and prone to repeating the same things ad infinitum,
I think what I would like to do over and over is blast you with
fireballs. What a crappy thing to say, if you even meant it of course.
I never did finish NWN2; got tired of the endless patches. I also regret
not finishing BG2, and I don't remember why.
Diane
Werner Spahl
> I finally caved in the cemetery quest with my Tremere chick - I just
> couldn't see a way to get to that top gate in time from the bottom one &
> keep the zombies out. When I looked up a walkthrough they said it was a
> bug/glitch in the game/quest & couldn't be done without a noclip/speed
I don't know if this really was a bug but at least the quest was much too
early in the game to do it without problems. Even with Celerity (vampire
speed) you better played on and came back later which sucked. That map was
made a little bit easier in the unofficial patch because of that...
> And, there I am, in Chinatown, 1/2 way done, probably never to return
> *sigh*.
Chinatown is the smallest hub of all, so your're almost there ;)...
--
Dr. Werner Spahl (sp...@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
Wesp5 @ Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Vorlonships
Kyle Haight
Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>
>>This is a female trait. Its why they excel at things like cashiers,
>>typing, sewing, etc. Repeating tasks that are done over and over
>>again. Its really why you see women excel in mmo's when you get them
>>to play as they all boil down to repeating the same thing over and
>>over again.
>
>You male chauvinist pig! My wife would smack you in the mouth if she heard
>this tripe, over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over again! ;-p
Ssh... I just got my wife to set WoW aside and start playing Mass Effect.
Don't let her find out that's sexist...
--
Kyle Haight
Justisaur
> "Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
> Now here's an idea for another poll: old games you never played but you'd
> really like to.
>
> Mine would be:
> - Star Control 2. Heard so many good things about this game, but I'm afraid
> it would be too dated now.
"UrQuan Masters" Download it, play it. Still entertaining.
> - Wing Commander series. I played only WC5:Prophecy (and had a blast with
> it) but I wish I played all of them in succession.
WC3 was an order of magnitude better than either 4 or 5. I'm not sure
it would hold up very well, or if it would even play on a modern
computer though. Privateer was pretty damn good too, that might hold
up o.k.
It's hard to regret not playing games because you don't know how good
they are but... probably ones I actually have but either couldn't get
to work / or just haven't got around to trying yet. Like Thief - I
couldn't get to run. And Betrayal at Krondor, somthing is holding me
back from trying it. Probably not enough time to play it more than
anything.
To get back on topic... I never did complete Syndicate 2. I think
that's the only game I ever got stuck in (might have been a bug, or
just too hard) that I really wanted to complete.
- Justisaur
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
It's quite a different experience with different bloodlines, even though
the basic plot and missions are the same.
I recommend playing a Malkavian - that was the one I found the most fun
(high obfuscation and mostly stealth kills.)
It also had the best dialogue ever.
Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
John Gordon
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
Alternate Reality: The City.
--
John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs
gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears
-- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies"
Michael Cecil
wrote:
>In <52fdm51li6trkq750...@4ax.com> Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> writes:
>
>> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
>
>Alternate Reality: The City.
Hmmm...that reminds me of the old Alternate Reality Online site about the
game that never came to fruition. Ah well.
--
Michael Cecil
mac...@gmail.com
Matt v3.3
> Man I loved space combat sims. R.I.P.
Bah! No resting in peace! Bring them back alive! :-D
(Seriously, I want zombies in space - call them 'Reavers' - LOL)
--
};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Michael Cecil
<ethers...@paradise.net.invalid> wrote:
>Zaghadka typed:
>> Man I loved space combat sims. R.I.P.
>
>Bah! No resting in peace! Bring them back alive! :-D
>
>(Seriously, I want zombies in space - call them 'Reavers' - LOL)
I claim Kaylee! (But only for a friend who is obsessed.)
--
Michael Cecil
mac...@gmail.com
Matt v3.3
> WC3 was an order of magnitude better than either 4 or 5.
I actually thought WC4 was better. :) True WC3 was the finale of a
three game story arc, and the first to amaze everyone with its FMV,
but I connected more with the story of WC4 (summed up nicely by the
sub-title "the price of freedom") and the mid-mission storyline
decision making. Perhaps that was because I had skipped WC2 though.
> I'm not sure it would hold up very well, or if it would even play on
> a modern computer though.
I can attest WC3 plays perfectly in DOSbox (also with the advantage
of a full install if you rip the CDs) WC4 should be the same.
And for WC5, I want to replay that. I've downloaded the 3.1GB of DVD
quality cutscenes and enhancements [1], installed it, tested that it
works, and have not touched it since. :-\
[1] http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/7428
> It's hard to regret not playing games because you don't know how good
> they are but... probably ones I actually have but either couldn't
> get to work / or just haven't got around to trying yet. Like Thief -
> I couldn't get to run.
Too bad, the sneaking was fun. Have you tried it using DDfix? Even
with it in 32bit the graphics are a bit dated these days.
[2] http://timeslip.chorrol.com/ddfix.html
Meanwhile I still have yet to buy Thief 3, and now they're making a
Thief 4! <*argh*>
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};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
> I regret to some extent not being able to appreciate & see the
> greatness in some of them that ppl here do (BaK, Wasteland, Mule,
> Ultima series, TES, Wizardry, RoA, Civ, WC series, etc), but most of
> that's just wistful nostalgia, not a real regret. Some of those I
> even tried briefly & just knew they weren't going to be my cuppa.
Yeah, I've always wondered what the fascination was with the Ultima
series that it spawned its own subset of fans? I played some of U7
(actually another one I never finished, but only barely started, so
I'm not counting it as a "regret") back in 1992 as a youngster, but
the premise appeared to be that you're a guy sitting at a computer
playing a game called Ultima VII - WTF? (Well, that was the opening
credits anyway, so much for suspension of disbelief ;-P )
Ok but seriously, I can appreciate the depth the game has nowadays,
and in fact the scale of the world really overwhelmed me, which is
probably why I never finished it. But what was it about the earlier
games in the series that turned people into dragons? ;)
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};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
>> (Seriously, I want zombies in space - call them 'Reavers' - LOL)
>
> I claim Kaylee! (But only for a friend who is obsessed.)
Are we staking a claim on people now? In that case, ah, tough choice,
but I think I'll take 'Our Mrs Reynolds' :-D
And if you're not obsessed, then either a] you have not seen it, or
b] you better check your pulse because they likely made a corpse of
you. ;)
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};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Matt v3.3
>> if the nuclear apocalypse happens tomorrow, I'm all set to game
>> on until they open the vault. ;)
>
> canned goods then man! ;)
What? - I thought that stuff came with the vault?! :-D According to
my Vault-Tec Survival Guide [TM] ...
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};> Matt v3.3 <:{
Nostromo
11:26:17 -0600, Anno Domini:
Now yer just messin with her inner nature for your own evil socio-gaming
experiments I'll bet! ;)
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
Not repetitive enough...? <EG> *duck & ruuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnn!!!* >8^D
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>It's quite a different experience with different bloodlines, even though
>the basic plot and missions are the same.
>I recommend playing a Malkavian - that was the one I found the most fun
>(high obfuscation and mostly stealth kills.)
>It also had the best dialogue ever.
Heh, normally I'd go for pigtails & large tits, but all that gibberish would
just make me want to turn the sound/text off! >;-)
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
2010 00:59:42 +1300, Anno Domini:
Ahhh, redheads, the devil bless 'em! >8^P~~~
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Nostromo
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Thus spake Xocyll <Xoc...@kingston.net>, Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:06:24 -0500,
>Anno Domini:
>
>>It's quite a different experience with different bloodlines, even though
>>the basic plot and missions are the same.
>>I recommend playing a Malkavian - that was the one I found the most fun
>>(high obfuscation and mostly stealth kills.)
>>It also had the best dialogue ever.
>
>Heh, normally I'd go for pigtails & large tits,
Oh yeah, I forgot that's the default Malk look - I replaced her with a
Yuki clone.
>but all that gibberish would
>just make me want to turn the sound/text off! >;-)
You're missing out, it's the best dialog in the game.
Pibbur
> ...
> What's your greatest gaming regret you've probably left behind for good?
>
(Ultima) Underworld II. Suffered a disk crash near the end. Didn't get
around to start it again.
Oh, BTW: I do take backups now.
---
pibbur
Scatter
> To get back on topic... I never did complete Syndicate 2. I think
> that's the only game I ever got stuck in (might have been a bug, or
> just too hard) that I really wanted to complete.
American Revolt or Syndicate Wars (the 3D one)?
I loved Syndicate, but American Revolt was just brutal (although
orbital rain was rather fun). Syndicate Wars never grabbed me as it
was just so dark and (visually) ugly compared to the original.
There's so many games that I've bought and never finished. I'm a bit
of a bargain bin enthusiast and have way too many games to be ever
able to play through to completion. These days I tend to buy games for
their online component and may only play through the tutorial part of
single player as training.
Paula
something happened that I couldn't continue it but I don't remember
what. I always intended to go back to it but never did.
Paula
Ross Ridge
I've been prevented from a completing the game twice because I flew over
the room with final encounter with the magic carpet. That triggers an
event that locks you out of the room.
Ross Ridge
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-()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/
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WDS
> Paula<pd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ultima VII. I started playing it 11 years ago and I really like it but
>> something happened that I couldn't continue it but I don't remember
>> what. I always intended to go back to it but never did.
>
> I've been prevented from a completing the game twice because I flew over
> the room with final encounter with the magic carpet. That triggers an
> event that locks you out of the room.
Is that what happens? I got near the end and there was a door that
would not open. I called their support line (remember those days?) and
the fix was to start over. I just gave up because I had no idea what I
had done wrong and wasn't about to play the entire game again just to
get stuck in the same spot.
Ross Ridge
> I've been prevented from a completing the game twice because I flew over
> the room with final encounter with the magic carpet. That triggers an
> event that locks you out of the room.
WDS <Bi...@seurer.net> wrote:
>Is that what happens? I got near the end and there was a door that
>would not open. I called their support line (remember those days?) and
>the fix was to start over. I just gave up because I had no idea what I
>had done wrong and wasn't about to play the entire game again just to
>get stuck in the same spot.
Yah, I remember seeing some of the dialogue text for the final encounter
one of the times when I flew over it. It's possible trigger other
events prematurely by flying over them too though this the only place
I know that prevents you from completing the game. There were other
bugs that could be prevent from completing the game, like losing keys,
but it definately sounds like you ran into the same bug, fundamental
design flaw really, that I ran into.