Daggerfall: Spell Point Question
Lori L.Olson
Hi,
Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
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Lori Olson hob...@pearl.sri.com
Bob Whiteside
Lori L.Olson wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
Goes up with INT.
--Bob
Lord Soth
>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
When you go up levels you need to increase your intelligence to
get more spell points.
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"Lori L.Olson" <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
>They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
Spell points only increase if you add to your intelligence when
raising levels. I think a Spellsword gets 1.5 times his INT score, so
if you have a INTof 50 your spell pts. are 75. That's why it's best to
play a custom character. Then you can choose the 3 X INT in spell
points advantage. Another way to drop the cost of spells is to create
trainer spells and then spend time practicing. If you want more
information on this email me or read earlier posts. You could also
use Alta Vista and do a newsgroup search with Daggerfall +spell
in the criteria.
Yama
"Lori L.Olson" <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
>They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
When you "Level Up" you get some attribute points to distribute
(Strength, Intelligence, Luck, etc). Just use (some, most, all) of
those points on INT. Spell Points are derived directly from your INT
rating. When you double your INT, you double your Spell Points.
Also, as you get better in the various "schools of magic"
(Illusion, Alteration, Destruction, etc) - spells using these schools
have a lower cost. So a spell that currently costs 350 SP - you would
normally never be able to cast. But as you improve in the magic
categories, the spell cost will drop substantially.
You can also get / make items that increase INT (and SP
indirectly) or increase SP directly.
Yama
Brent Burkholder
In article <326BBA...@pearl.sri.com>,
Lori L.Olson <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
>They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
If you need more SP, then the next time you advance in levels allocate
your bonus stat points to INT. Spell Points are a function of intelligence,
whether they're .5x, 1x, 2x, or 3x for a spellsword I don't know offhand.
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slink
"Lori L.Olson" <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
>They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
>--
>*******************************
>"<*> Watching Babylon 5 is like being nibbled to death by cats. "
>Lori Olson hob...@pearl.sri.com
Spell points depend on INT, which you can only increase permanently at
Level increase time. You can give yourself a temporary increase by
using items that increase INT, and then sleeping, but those items will
wear out quickly. You can find, buy or make a magic item which gives
you extra spell points at various times. This will also wear out, but
not as quickly by my observation.
Sandra
Don Nalezyty
Hey all,
Don from Bethesda here.
Recently slink, sl...@netins.net wrote:
>Spell points depend on INT, which you can only increase permanently at
>Level increase time. You can give yourself a temporary increase by
>using items that increase INT, and then sleeping, but those items will
>wear out quickly. You can find, buy or make a magic item which gives
>you extra spell points at various times. This will also wear out, but
>not as quickly by my observation.
This is a spoiler from the heart of Bethesda so read on with caution!
While you can get magic items which increase you INT, there is a longer
route that can give some really intresting results, especially if your
clever and extrapolate this out to other applications. You can create a
spell that raises your INT within the spell maker. The trick is to make
a spell that is really cheap to cast and use the methods described
elsewhere to increase your Restoration skill. Once you get a high (80 -
90) skill you can create a new spell that has a really long duration, but
low cost. You can actually create a spell that will last days or even
weeks, then whenever you rest you'll get spell points in relation to your
enhanced INT. I'll not give away any more, but then again I've already
given you everything haven't I?!
; -)
Later,
Don
R. McPherson
On 25 Oct 1996, Don Nalezyty wrote:
:Don from Bethesda here.
:
:This is a spoiler from the heart of Bethesda so read on with caution!
:You can actually create a spell that will last days or even
:weeks, then whenever you rest you'll get spell points in relation to your
:enhanced INT.
This is not necessary if you have absorb spell and create a low
level (cheap) damage area at range spell and precede the name of
the spell with a "$" symbol. My spell $Zap is a 1 point damage
area at range spell and when I cast it and make the save, I
absorb the full number of spell points but it only charged me 1/3
of the spell points (thanks to the $) so I just cast it and
charge up my mana for free. You absorb more than it cost.
Who needs intelligence when mana is free?
rjmc...@uci.edu R. McPherson, Psychobiology Dept, UC Irvine
craig davis
The problem with relying on cheats is that they may go away with
any new patch, including patches that you might need to be able
to play the game...
What Don said was part of the design of the game and should continue
to work even with future patches...
Craig
Rob C. Johnson
pshaw, you need to _cheat_ to whomp everything you see!? Ha!
I, Prince Rob the Psycho Vampire have no such needs! I use my
raw power, do not wear any armor whatsoever, and even use a
sword that is low damage vs everything! And I still whomp
everyone! My items are merely enchanted with some Repairs
(doesn't crash me, I'm lucky I suppose), extra mana all
seasons, Ancient liches, feather weight, and one +50% carrying.
And when I get really angry, I pull out Carentas.
When Carentas goes Snicker-snack, you die! Muhahahahahaa!
I hope in Tes 3 I'll be able to burn down some cities. Ahhh,
now that would be a challange!
Rob sez 'Hi!' (rcjo...@prairienet.org)
slink
Question about spoiler from Don:
Don, I have tried increasing WIL to shorten my learning curve in
magic skills, aka the on-screen description of WIL (governs . . . the
ease of increasing will-power related skills). A short-term increase
caused by casting Modify WIL, which only lasted during the actual
practice spell-casting, didn't seem to help. So I figured the spell
points lost to increasing WIL problably offset the possible gain.
When I tried a magic item to increase my WIL it broke the first time I
slept. Again, no accerated learning was observed.
Was I on the right track?
Sandra
Don Nalezyty <dnal...@mail.bethsoft.com> wrote:
>Hey all,
>Don from Bethesda here.
>This is a spoiler from the heart of Bethesda so read on with caution!
> While you can get magic items which increase you INT, there is a longer
>route that can give some really intresting results, especially if your
>clever and extrapolate this out to other applications. You can create a
>spell that raises your INT within the spell maker. The trick is to make
>a spell that is really cheap to cast and use the methods described
>elsewhere to increase your Restoration skill. Once you get a high (80 -
>90) skill you can create a new spell that has a really long duration, but
>low cost. You can actually create a spell that will last days or even
>weeks, then whenever you rest you'll get spell points in relation to your
Don Nalezyty
Hey Sandra,
Don here.You asked:
>When I tried a magic item to increase my WIL it broke the first time I
>slept. Again, no accerated learning was observed.
>
>Was I on the right track?
>
Some magic items will last really long... especially if you make them
yourself with the right components. I shouldn't really give away
anything more. 8-)>
Later,
Don
Peter
R. McPherson wrote:
> [...]
> My spell $Zap is a 1 point damage
> area at range spell and when I cast it and make the save, I
> absorb the full number of spell points but it only charged me 1/3
> of the spell points (thanks to the $) so I just cast it and
> charge up my mana for free. You absorb more than it cost.
> Who needs intelligence when mana is free?
I higher intelligence is still necessary to be able to cast more
powerful spells. In other words, if the new spell you want to make
costs 150 mana and you've only got 100 max with magic items, you still
have to wait even with all the free mana in the world.
Peter
Peter
Chris Webb
Can anyone tell me if the area of Castle Sentinel with all the blue bars
has anything of interest - after finally working out how to get through
them, there was nothing to plunder.
Also, how does one activate the brick wall teleports ?
Thanks for any help,
Chris.
Bard Lite
Chris Webb wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if the area of Castle Sentinel with all the blue bars
> has anything of interest - after finally working out how to get through
> them, there was nothing to plunder.
This is actually part of the main quest sequence. If you haven't been
sent on this quest, the goal probably isn't in place. If I were you, I'd
leave Castle Sentinel alone until you're asked to go there. Remember
how to get through the force bars, 'though.
Cheers,
michael
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Chris Webb <we...@bond.edu.au> wrote in article
<327E30...@bond.edu.au>...
> Can anyone tell me if the area of Castle Sentinel with all the blue bars
> has anything of interest - after finally working out how to get through
> them, there was nothing to plunder.
> Also, how does one activate the brick wall teleports ?
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Chris.
>
If you are on a quest for the King of Worms you need to get past the blue
bars to finish the quest.
Dark Raven
No witty sig.
Jerry Caveney
In <57hu8v$n...@taurus.adnc.com> rsto...@adnc.net (Roger Stoklas) writes:
>
>"Lori L.Olson" <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
>>They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
>>still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
>>I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
>>knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
>>--
>>*******************************
>>"<*> Watching Babylon 5 is like being nibbled to death by cats. "
>
>>Lori Olson hob...@pearl.sri.com
>
>and your spell points will increase, the amount depending on your
>class. ( Int x .5, Int x 1, Int x 1.5, etc ).
>
>Roger
>
And you can confirm what your formula is (Int times x) by hitting F5,
then "History".
Jerry
Roger Stoklas
Devon Loxly
jcav...@ix.netcom.com(Jerry Caveney ) wrote:
>In <57hu8v$n...@taurus.adnc.com> rsto...@adnc.net (Roger Stoklas) writes:
>>
>And you can confirm what your formula is (Int times x) by hitting F5,
>then "History".
>Jerry
Also as your SKIIL (distruction, illusion, etc) That type of skill costs less to
cast.
Elaine Baeza
Roger Stoklas wrote:
>
> "Lori L.Olson" <hob...@pearl.sri.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >Does anyone know how to increase spell points or WHEN they increase?
> >They don't appear to change with level; I am a level 4 spell sword, and
> >still have the same spell points I started at. That doesn't help when
> >I want to cast anything other than the most basic spells. If anyone
> >knows about this and can help me, please respond. Thanks.
> >--
> >*******************************
> >"<*> Watching Babylon 5 is like being nibbled to death by cats. "
>
> >Lori Olson hob...@pearl.sri.com
>
> The number of spell points are based on your Intelligence. Raise it
> and your spell points will increase, the amount depending on your
> class. ( Int x .5, Int x 1, Int x 1.5, etc ).
>
> Roger
So what are the ways to increase intelligence? Hoping this is not a
dumb question. :>
Elaine
D.D. Johnston
On Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:49:31 -0800, Elaine Baeza <ba...@ibm.net>
wrote:
> So what are the ways to increase intelligence? Hoping this is not a
>dumb question. :>
>Elaine
It isn't at all. When you advance in level, you have about 4 or maybe
5 points to apportion. Since my character is a battlemage, I gave all
of the early points to intelligence until he was at 100. There may be
a magical way to temporarily increase your intelligence but I haven't
tried any. When you get to a high enough level, you can use the Mage's
Guild (and possibly a Temple) to enchant items that will give you
extra spell points.
Regards,
ddj
Brian Anderson
I don't know a way to increase intelligence other than gain levels. As you get
better in the magic skills the cost of the spels goes down. I went and raided
graveyards for many hours and sold all the stuff, finally got enough to buy a
house. After I bought the house I went in it and started casting spells, you
can camp in your own house while in town :). Use the spell maker at the mages
guild to create some cheap to cast spells in each of the 6 areas of magic. Sit
in the house and cast away, I've got >50 in each area now.
In article <32A09D...@ibm.net>, ba...@ibm.net says...
Jerry Caveney
In <32A09D...@ibm.net> Elaine Baeza <ba...@ibm.net> writes:
...
> So what are the ways to increase intelligence? Hoping this is not
a
>dumb question. :>
>Elaine
Abilities, like intelligence, are raised when you go up each level.
You get 4 to 6 points to give to whichever ability(ies) you choose.
Jerry
Beverlee
> > So what are the ways to increase intelligence? Hoping this is
not a
> >dumb question. :>
> >Elaine
A trick I used in TES:Arena: Create a spell to boost your intelligence to
100, carry around some spell point potions. When you need to cast that
really big spell, you can have 300SP, for a while. Now I just use custom
characters that start w/ 75 Int. and jump it to 100 right quick.
Jade Dragon
> a
> >dumb question. :>
> >Elaine
>
> You get 4 to 6 points to give to whichever ability(ies) you choose.
>
> Jerry
Alternatively, the Oghma Infinitum did wonders in Arena. Wonder if it's
in Daggerfall...
Jade Dragon
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In <32A6AA...@ppp.nasionet.net> Jade Dragon
<ian...@ppp.nasionet.net> writes:
>
>Jerry Caveney wrote:
>>
>> In <32A09D...@ibm.net> Elaine Baeza <ba...@ibm.net> writes:
>> ...
>> > So what are the ways to increase intelligence? Hoping this
is not
>> a
>> >dumb question. :>
>> >Elaine
>>
>> Abilities, like intelligence, are raised when you go up each level.
>> You get 4 to 6 points to give to whichever ability(ies) you choose.
>>
>> Jerry
>
>
>Alternatively, the Oghma Infinitum did wonders in Arena. Wonder if
it's
>in Daggerfall...
>
>Jade Dragon
>
button put on it says 50 attribute points given, but infact it gives
30, equalling going up 5 levels at max. increase.
Jerry