Steam Powered Thieves..
dogatemy...@gmail.com
I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics. The box
is simply, well, a box with a couple of pieces of tape over the top and
bottom to keep the lid closed. The system requirements for the game
are listed on the box as being:
Developer(s) Ritual Entertainment
Publisher(s) Activision
Engine Quake II engine (enhanced)
Latest version 1.12 (Steam Version)
Release date(s) October 31, 1998
Worldwide April 5, 2006 (Steam)
Genre(s) First-person shooter
Mode(s) Single player, multiplayer
Rating(s) ESRB: Mature (M)
Platform(s) PC (Windows / Linux), PowerPC (Mac OS / Linux)
Media CD-ROM
System requirements 166 MHz Processor, 32 MB RAM, 2 MB video card
There is nothing in this game that requires an internet connection. So
I took the game to my office, plugged in the CD and attempted to load
the game. The game responded with an error. After some investigation
it turns out the game requires an internet connection (or you have to
jump through a bunch of hoops). The game simply wouldn't load.
The internet connection issue doesn't bother me.. what bothers me is
that after some investigation I found out the CD does NOT actually
contain the game! You have to install the software then download the
game using Steam's anti-copying software at your own expense.
In this case it gets worse. It turns out someone else had guessed or
generated the CD key, installed the game and played it. So .. now I
have a CD that I bought that does not actually contain the game and an
invalid CD key used by someone else.
Of course Steam has offered to let me mail them a 2 page form full of
my personal information, a check for ANOTHER $10 (in addition to the
$40 I paid for the game) along with the original game that I bought.
Then.. if they feel like good Samaritans (or the post office doesn't
loose something in the mail) they'll be nice enough to send me a CD key
so I can activate the game on my PC. Of course they reserve the right
to keep my $10 and not send me anything.
I'm also told by Frys Electronics that Activision does not allow them
to accept returns of the game. I'm told they can trade it out for
another one but only of its opened because once it is opened then they
have to eat the cost of the game. Activision and Steam will not stand
behind their products. Of course they'll stand behind you and its
going to hurt if you don't play by their rules.
I'm tired of companies treating us like criminals. Here is a list of
Steam's games. Avoid them like the plague! Avoid anything with
Steam's name on it. There are enough quality games on the market that
we shouldn't have to put up with this trash.
Name Metascore® Price
688(I) Hunter-Killer
Sonalysts -- $19.95
Advent Rising
GlyphX Games 70 $19.95
AstroPop Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Bejeweled 2 Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Bejeweled Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
BigMoney Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Birth Of America
Strategy First 71 $29.95
BloodRayne
Terminal Reality 65 $9.95
BloodRayne 2
Terminal Reality 67 $19.95
BloodRayne 2 Demo
Terminal Reality 67 In account
Bookworm Adventures Deluxe NEW
Popcap -- Free Demo
Bookworm Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Call of Duty
Infinity Ward 91 $19.95
Call of Duty® 2
Infinity Ward 86 $29.95
Call of Duty: United Offensive
Gray Matter Studios 87 $19.95
Chuzzle Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
City Life
Monte Cristo 76 $39.95
Codename Gordon
Nuclear Vision -- In account
Counter-Strike
Valve 88 $9.95
Counter-Strike: Condition Zero
Valve 65 $9.95
Counter-Strike: Source
Valve 88 $19.95
DEFCON
Introversion Software 84 $14.95
DEFCON Demo
Introversion Software 84 In account
Dangerous Waters
Sonalysts 82 $19.95
Dark Messiah Might and Magic™
Arkane Studios 72 $49.95
Name Metascore® Price
Dark Messiah Singleplayer Demo
Arkane Studios 72 In account
Darwinia
Introversion Software 83 $19.95
Darwinia Demo
Introversion Software 83 In account
Day of Defeat
Valve 79 $9.95
Day of Defeat: Source
Valve 80 $19.95
Deathmatch Classic
Valve -- $9.95
Disciples II: Galleans Return
Strategy First 84 $19.95
Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
Strategy First 80 $19.95
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey NEW
Funcom 75 $39.95
Dynomite Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Earth 2160
Reality Pump Studios 73 $9.95
Eets
Klei Entertainment 81 $9.95
Eets Demo
Klei Entertainment 81 In account
Feeding Frenzy 2 Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
FlatOut 2™
Bugbear Entertainment 76 $24.95
Fleet Command
Sonalysts -- $19.95
Full Pipe
PipeStudio -- $9.95
Full Pipe Demo
PipeStudio -- In account
GTI Racing
Techland -- $19.95
GUN™
Neversoft 76 $19.95
Garry's Mod
Garry -- $9.95
Ghost Master®
Sick Puppies 81 $9.95
Gumboy - Crazy Adventures™
Cinemax -- $14.95
Gumboy Demo
Cinemax -- In account
Half-Life
Valve 96 $9.95
Metascore® Price
Half-Life 2
Valve 96 $29.95
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
Valve -- $9.95
Half-Life 2: Demo
Valve 96 In account
Half-Life 2: Episode One
Valve 87 $19.95
Half-Life 2: Lost Coast
Valve -- --
Half-Life Deathmatch: Source
Valve -- --
Half-Life: Blue Shift
Gearbox Software 71 $9.95
Half-Life: Source
Valve -- $9.95
Hammer Heads Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Heavy Weapon Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Heroes of Annihilated Empires
GSC Game World 65 $39.95
Heroes of Annihilated Empires Demo
GSC Game World 65 In account
Iggle Pop Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Insaniquarium Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Iron Warriors: T - 72 Tank Command
Strategy First 56 $19.95
Jagged Alliance 2 Gold
Strategy First -- $19.95
Medieval II: Total War™
The Creative Assembly 88 $49.95
Medieval II: Total War™ Demo
The Creative Assembly 88 In account
Opposing Force
Gearbox Software -- $9.95
Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast NEW
Sumo Digital 83 $19.95
Pizza Frenzy Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Poker Superstars II
Funkitron -- Free Demo
Prey
Humanhead Studios 83 $19.95
Psychonauts
Double Fine 87 $19.95
Psychonauts Demo
Double Fine 87 In account
nt.
RACE - The WTCC Game
SimBin 81 $29.95
Rag Doll Kung Fu
Mark Healey 69 $14.95
Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45
Tripwire Interactive 81 $19.95
Ricochet
Valve -- $9.95
RoboBlitz
Naked Sky Entertainment 80 $14.95
RoboBlitz Demo
Naked Sky Entertainment 80 In account
Rocket Mania Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Shadowgrounds
Frozenbyte 74 $19.95
Shadowgrounds Demo
Frozenbyte -- In account
Shattered Union
PopTop 67 $29.95
SiN 1
Ritual Entertainment -- --
SiN 1 Multiplayer
Ritual Entertainment -- --
SiN Episodes: Emergence
Ritual Entertainment 75 $14.95
Sid Meier's Civilization® III Complete
Firaxis 90 $29.95
Sid Meier's Civilization® IV
Firaxis 94 $39.95
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Firaxis 88 $29.95
Space Empires IV Deluxe
Malfador Machinations 79 $9.95
Space Empires V
Malfador Machinations 69 $29.95
Sub Command
Sonalysts 84 $19.95
Talismania Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Team Fortress Classic
Valve -- $9.95
The Ship
Outerlight Ltd. 75 $19.95
The Ship Single Player
Outerlight Ltd. 75 $9.95
Typer Shark Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
Uplink
Introversion Software 75 $9.95
Vegas Make It Big™
Deepred 76 $19.95
X2: The Threat
Egosoft 72 $9.95
X3: Reunion
Egosoft 71 $19.95
Xpand Rally
Techland 82 $19.95
Zen of Sudoku
Unknown Worlds -- $9.95
Zen of Sudoku Demo
Unknown Worlds -- In account
Zuma Deluxe
Popcap -- Free Demo
John Lewis
>Greetings,
>
>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics. The box
>is simply, well, a box with a couple of pieces of tape over the top and
>bottom to keep the lid closed. The system requirements for the game
>are listed on the box as being:
>
>Developer(s) Ritual Entertainment
>Publisher(s) Activision
>Engine Quake II engine (enhanced)
>Latest version 1.12 (Steam Version)
>Release date(s) October 31, 1998
>Worldwide April 5, 2006 (Steam)
>Genre(s) First-person shooter
>Mode(s) Single player, multiplayer
>Rating(s) ESRB: Mature (M)
>Platform(s) PC (Windows / Linux), PowerPC (Mac OS / Linux)
>Media CD-ROM
>System requirements 166 MHz Processor, 32 MB RAM, 2 MB video card
>
... rest deleted
Smart bait for our dumb friend "pc games". Hook, line and sinker ??
John Lewis
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz
> There is nothing in this game that requires an internet connection. So
> I took the game to my office, plugged in the CD and attempted to load
> the game. The game responded with an error. After some investigation
> it turns out the game requires an internet connection (or you have to
> jump through a bunch of hoops). The game simply wouldn't load.
>
> The internet connection issue doesn't bother me.. what bothers me is
> that after some investigation I found out the CD does NOT actually
> contain the game! You have to install the software then download the
> game using Steam's anti-copying software at your own expense.
In this case: Give it back, if you don't want this. Don't know how it is
where you life, but here something like "requires Internet" must be
stated on the package.
> In this case it gets worse. It turns out someone else had guessed or
> generated the CD key, installed the game and played it. So .. now I
> have a CD that I bought that does not actually contain the game and an
> invalid CD key used by someone else.
>
> Of course Steam has offered to let me mail them a 2 page form full of
> my personal information, a check for ANOTHER $10 (in addition to the
> $40 I paid for the game) along with the original game that I bought.
> Then.. if they feel like good Samaritans (or the post office doesn't
> loose something in the mail) they'll be nice enough to send me a CD key
> so I can activate the game on my PC. Of course they reserve the right
> to keep my $10 and not send me anything.
Give it back. It's as simple as that. You don't have to do anything with
Valve, just go to the vendor where you bought it. And if you want, you
can still go to another Vendor and buy a new copy, so you don't have
troubles with Valve.
> I'm also told by Frys Electronics that Activision does not allow them
> to accept returns of the game.
At least here, this would be THEIR problem, not yours. You bought
something and didn't get, what you paid for. It's a simple as that. Why
do you care what arrangements they have with Activision? If you buy a
game from me, would you care what arrangements I have with my
girlfriend, mother or neighbour? No, it doesn't concern you!
Flo
paul...@yahoo.com
> something and didn't get, what you paid for. It's a simple as that. Why
> do you care what arrangements they have with Activision? If you buy a
> game from me, would you care what arrangements I have with my
> girlfriend, mother or neighbour? No, it doesn't concern you!
>
is to sue them in small claims court. Since this takes lots of time
and money ($25-50 court fees depending on where you live) plus subpena
fees (if you have to hire a server), it generally isn't worth it for a
$40 dollar game.
So, your real option is to never do business with that company again
and eat the $40 bucks.
Briton
>> .At least here, this would be THEIR problem, not yours. You bought
>> something and didn't get, what you paid for. It's a simple as that.
>> Why do you care what arrangements they have with Activision? If you
>> buy a game from me, would you care what arrangements I have with my
>> girlfriend, mother or neighbour? No, it doesn't concern you!
>>
> Well, the store can simply refuse to take it back. Your recourse then
> is to sue them in small claims court. Since this takes lots of time
> and money ($25-50 court fees depending on where you live) plus subpena
> fees (if you have to hire a server), it generally isn't worth it for a
> $40 dollar game.
In the UK it's a fairly simple process using the small claims court. You can
do it all online. Of course you recover all fees, assuming you win.
CJM
"Briton" <Mailf...@yahoo.co.uk(no need for Mail)> wrote in message
news:45b73c5f$0$8754$ed26...@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>
> In the UK it's a fairly simple process using the small claims court. You
> can do it all online. Of course you recover all fees, assuming you win.
>
Add in a call to the local Trading Standards Office... They can make life
difficult for retailers who sell conterfeit or other dubious goods.
Raymond Martineau
>Greetings,
>
>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
You seem adept at finding a large quantity of newsgroups. Why don't
you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
Nostromo
16:41:17 -0500, Anno Domini:
>On 23 Jan 2007 10:55:47 -0800, dogatemy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
>
>You seem adept at finding a large quantity of newsgroups. Why don't
AFAICS he only posted to this NG...?
>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
--
"I don't welcome it ... because I'm a different kind of gamer from most
of you. I'm a "benchmark" gamer." - johns 4/1/2007
Nostromo
John Lewis
>Greetings,
>
>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
Sin2 does not exist.
> The box
>is simply, well, a box with a couple of pieces of tape over the top and
>bottom to keep the lid closed. The system requirements for the game
>are listed on the box as being:
>
>Developer(s) Ritual Entertainment
>Publisher(s) Activision
.. first giveaway
>Engine Quake II engine (enhanced)
... second giveaway..
>Latest version 1.12 (Steam Version)
>Release date(s) October 31, 1998
...third giveaway...
>Worldwide April 5, 2006 (Steam)
>Genre(s) First-person shooter
>Mode(s) Single player, multiplayer
>Rating(s) ESRB: Mature (M)
>Platform(s) PC (Windows / Linux), PowerPC (Mac OS / Linux)
>Media CD-ROM
>System requirements 166 MHz Processor, 32 MB RAM, 2 MB video card
...fourth giveaway.
A nice cut 'n paste job on the specs for the original Sin, with Steam
and modern OS additions of course.
Poor effort, try again "pc games", or one of your sock-puppets....
.. rest deleted.....
John Lewis
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Thus spake Raymond Martineau <bk...@freenet.carleton.ca>, Wed, 24 Jan 2007
>16:41:17 -0500, Anno Domini:
>
>>On 23 Jan 2007 10:55:47 -0800, dogatemy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
>>
>>You seem adept at finding a large quantity of newsgroups. Why don't
>AFAICS he only posted to this NG...?
Not looking hard enough. He didn't crosspost, he posted the same
message 6 times to 6 different newsgroups.
c.s.i.p.g.misc/adventure/rpg/marketplace/space-sim/action
>>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
>
>*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
At least if you're an in(s)ane portuguese poster.
Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> looked up from reading the entrails of the
>porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>
>>Thus spake Raymond Martineau <bk...@freenet.carleton.ca>, Wed, 24 Jan 2007
>>16:41:17 -0500, Anno Domini:
>>
>>>On 23 Jan 2007 10:55:47 -0800, dogatemy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>
>>>>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
>>>
>>>You seem adept at finding a large quantity of newsgroups. Why don't
>>AFAICS he only posted to this NG...?
>
>Not looking hard enough. He didn't crosspost, he posted the same
>message 6 times to 6 different newsgroups.
>c.s.i.p.g.misc/adventure/rpg/marketplace/space-sim/action
Heh, not subbed to any of those these days, that explains it. Strictly
speaking, according to Usenetiquette, is he crossposting then...? :-/
>>>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>>>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
>>
>>*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
>
>At least if you're an in(s)ane portuguese poster.
He seems to be building a small, just as insane, non-portuguese following
from a few individuals here. Should be fun times ahead.
CJM
"Michael Cecil" <mac...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:KZadnWPzmJeW7STY...@comcast.com...
>
> Not if there is only one newsgroup listed in the post's header. If there
> are multiple newsgroups listed such as: alt.test,alt.test2,alt.test3 then
> that would be crossposting. Multiposting is posting the same message to
> different groups individually. It's easier to filter out crossposts.
> Either way they're both bad.
Excessive cross-posting is bad. Cross-posting to a mximum of 3 or 4
appropriate NGs is generally regarded as acceptable.
mcv
> Disciples II: Galleans Return
> Strategy First 84 $19.95
> Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
> Strategy First 80 $19.95
I got these two for free through Stardock (a much friendlier online
distribution system anyway). I wouldn't have paid $40 for it.
> Jagged Alliance 2 Gold
> Strategy First -- $19.95
Does that game still cost money? It's old!
> Medieval II: Total War?
> The Creative Assembly 88 $49.95
Can I also buy this without Steam? I really want to play it (as
soon as I get a better PC).
mcv.
--
Science is not the be-all and end-all of human existence. It's a tool.
A very powerful tool, but not the only tool. And if only that which
could be verified scientifically was considered real, then nearly all
of human experience would be not-real. -- Zachriel
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz
> Heh, not subbed to any of those these days, that explains it. Strictly
> speaking, according to Usenetiquette, is he crossposting then...? :-/
It's called multiposting and it's far worse than crossposting. A
crosspost can be sent and stored as one message, no matter how many
newsgroups are involved. A multi-post is sent once for each newsgroup.
And a multipost is much harder to filter or read - if I have read a
crosspost already, a goog Newsclient can mark it read in any newsgroup -
it's much harder with a multipost.
Flo
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz
>> Excessive cross-posting is bad. Cross-posting to a mximum of 3 or 4
>> appropriate NGs is generally regarded as acceptable.
Imho, depends on the situation and normaly you should set a follow-up-to.
> Not to me it isn't.
That's to bad, but the world is full of things that you don't regard as
acceptable :-)
Flo
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz
> Can I also buy this without Steam? I really want to play it (as
> soon as I get a better PC).
I got it here, totaly without Steam.
Flo
Alfie [UK]
>dogatemy...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Medieval II: Total War?
>> The Creative Assembly 88 $49.95
>
>Can I also buy this without Steam? I really want to play it (as
>soon as I get a better PC).
>
Yup, it's available retail on DVD, $39.99 on Amazon.com (for price
comparison), £24.99 on amazon.co.uk (about 37.95 Euros).
--
Alfie [UK]
<http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
When the bosses talk about improving productivity, they are never talking about themselves.
Alfie [UK]
wrote:
The other reason multi-posting should be discouraged is that answers in
one group are not propogated or linked to answers in another, so you end
up with disparate threads in each group possibly duplicating each others
questions/answers, etc. Cross-post filtering software will not usually
recognise multi-posts and hence if you read all of the groups it's been
posted to you get to ee it in every one, which can be annoying.
Cross-posting to relevant groups, and where feasible a single follow-up
group, are considered better practice, less likely to annoy 'the locals'
and hence more likely to get constructive answers.
--
Alfie [UK]
<http://www.delphia.co.uk/>
Support local search and rescue; GET LOST!!!
CJM
>>
>>Excessive cross-posting is bad. Cross-posting to a mximum of 3 or 4
>>appropriate NGs is generally regarded as acceptable.
>
Well it is to the rest of us.
Excessive link spamming in USENET sigs is not however.
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Thus spake Xocyll <Xoc...@kingston.net>, Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:04:43 -0500,
>Anno Domini:
>
>>Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> looked up from reading the entrails of the
>>porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>
>>>Thus spake Raymond Martineau <bk...@freenet.carleton.ca>, Wed, 24 Jan 2007
>>>16:41:17 -0500, Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>On 23 Jan 2007 10:55:47 -0800, dogatemy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>>I just purchased a copy of Sin 2 at my local Frys Electronics.
>>>>
>>>>You seem adept at finding a large quantity of newsgroups. Why don't
>>>AFAICS he only posted to this NG...?
>>
>>Not looking hard enough. He didn't crosspost, he posted the same
>>message 6 times to 6 different newsgroups.
>>c.s.i.p.g.misc/adventure/rpg/marketplace/space-sim/action
>
>Heh, not subbed to any of those these days, that explains it. Strictly
>speaking, according to Usenetiquette, is he crossposting then...? :-/
Nor am I, I just did an author search on groups.google.com's advanced
search.
Turned up nothing but that post, posted to 6 different groups - but not
crossposted.
>>>>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>>>>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
>>>
>>>*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
>>
>>At least if you're an in(s)ane portuguese poster.
>
>He seems to be building a small, just as insane, non-portuguese following
>from a few individuals here. Should be fun times ahead.
I just wish it would fuck off already.
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>>Heh, not subbed to any of those these days, that explains it. Strictly
>>speaking, according to Usenetiquette, is he crossposting then...? :-/
>
>Nor am I, I just did an author search on groups.google.com's advanced
>search.
>
>Turned up nothing but that post, posted to 6 different groups - but not
>crossposted.
Gotcha. I was too lazy to do the forensics ;)
>>>>>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>>>>>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
>>>>
>>>>*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
>>>
>>>At least if you're an in(s)ane portuguese poster.
>>
>>He seems to be building a small, just as insane, non-portuguese following
>>from a few individuals here. Should be fun times ahead.
>
>I just wish it would fuck off already.
Ouch! At that point already, ey? I rarely see any of its posts - the global
Agent filters I use are:
"author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer | pc
games) and not subject: {re:}" - ignore thread
"author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer | pc
games)" - mark post read
If you have any thoughts on improving/'upgrading' these, happy to see
whatchu got (here or email ;).
Tx to all you guys for the follow-up cross/multi-posting clarifications &
thoughts as well.
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Thus spake Xocyll <Xoc...@kingston.net>, Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:20 -0500,
>Anno Domini:
>
>>>Heh, not subbed to any of those these days, that explains it. Strictly
>>>speaking, according to Usenetiquette, is he crossposting then...? :-/
>>
>>Nor am I, I just did an author search on groups.google.com's advanced
>>search.
>>
>>Turned up nothing but that post, posted to 6 different groups - but not
>>crossposted.
>
>Gotcha. I was too lazy to do the forensics ;)
>
>>>>>>you find another point of purchase, such as Steampowered.com? As you
>>>>>>know, the online store sells the game for half of what you paid.
>>>>>
>>>>>*sigh* it's so easy to blame Master Valve for everything these days...
>>>>
>>>>At least if you're an in(s)ane portuguese poster.
>>>
>>>He seems to be building a small, just as insane, non-portuguese following
>>>from a few individuals here. Should be fun times ahead.
>>
>>I just wish it would fuck off already.
>
>Ouch! At that point already, ey? I rarely see any of its posts - the global
>Agent filters I use are:
>"author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer | pc
>games) and not subject: {re:}" - ignore thread
>"author: (difool | steamkiller | sayno2steam | sayno2piracy | pcgamer | pc
>games)" - mark post read
>If you have any thoughts on improving/'upgrading' these, happy to see
>whatchu got (here or email ;).
Oh I have filters, but that doesn't stop people quoting it's shit so I
end up seeing it anyway.
>Tx to all you guys for the follow-up cross/multi-posting clarifications &
>thoughts as well.
Heh