Ultima 7 and Windows 98
Steve Riese
Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
somewhere, so if there is a FAQ somewhere, I'd appreciate it if you could
direct me there. Seems everytime I get a new computer (286, 486,
now Pentium) I've got to spend days trying to discover the secret to get
my Ultimas to run. So far, Commodore 64 was the easiest.
Thanks,
Steve
marcco
>Please forgive a technical question. How do I get Ultima 7 to run under
>Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
Like this:
http://users.wantree.com.au/~rsd/ultima7.htm
A word of warning: if you don't have a genuine Soundblaster card like
SB16 or AWE32 (which can play sounds in DOS games without loading DOS
drivers), expect to have lots of problems trying to get the sounds,
mouse, MOSLO and smartdrv to run at the same time (too little memory).
The reason I specifically mention smartdrv is because without it
saving or loading a game can take several minutes, but with it only a
few seconds. Relieves your nerves nicely.
Here's how I got Ultima 7 to run:
Created a shortcut on Win98 desktop which points to C:\COMMAND.COM,
and with these settings:
config.sys:
FILES=30
autoexec.bat:
smartdrv /u
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P300 T6
C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S
C:\SB16\SB16SET /P /Q
c:\utils\ctmousep.com
ctmousep.com is a special DOS mouse driver that takes little memory.
And when in DOS mode, I just ran Ultima 7 with a batch (.bat) file
like this:
moslo /40 ultima7.com
Or if I wanted to play Serpent Isle, which doesn't need MOSLO:
Hope this helps. So track down CTMOUSE from the net, and hopefully you
have a SB16 card, because it helps a lot getting the sound to work
with as little memory as possible.
And if you have a Roland MT-32 or LAPC-1, expect also to get great
music from those games...
Shane
(*grin*)
(You could probably get a 486 for about the same price as a 3d card these
days...)
But assuming you are kinda attached to that Brand Spanking New, All Shiny
Pentium, check out
http://users.wantree.com.au/~rsd/ultima7.htm
I got this link from the r.g.c.u-d FAQ at
http://home.earthlink.net/~fortran/faq/rgcudfaq.html#4
That should have about everything I think.
Shane
Steve Riese wrote in message ...
>Please forgive a technical question. How do I get Ultima 7 to run under
>Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
John Tempest
The only satisfactory way to run Ultima 7 is on an older slower machine such
as a 486 and you will either need it to run under DOS (or at least boot it
with pure DOS). Running it on a recent machine is a no-no - the game is
uncontrollable, you just can't grab control of anything with your mouse.
Although "moslo" is included in the Ultima Collection I don't think this
really helps the situation as it also grabs some memory and makes the
configuration that more difficult and buggers up the sound. So the moral is
never throw away the old machine if you want to play the old games.
John T.
Steve Riese <sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote in message
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Knight37
>Steve Riese <sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>A word of warning: if you don't have a genuine Soundblaster card like
>SB16 or AWE32 (which can play sounds in DOS games without loading DOS
>drivers), expect to have lots of problems trying to get the sounds,
>mouse, MOSLO and smartdrv to run at the same time (too little memory).
Unless you have a Diamond Sonic Impact S90 PCI sound card, which has
a very nice DOS TSR driver that works beautifully with Ultima 7. This
card uses the Aureal A3D chipset, and making broad generalization here,
any other card that uses a chip like this will probably have a DOS
driver that will work with U7. In theory. :)
Knight37
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Knight37
>Steve,
>The only satisfactory way to run Ultima 7 is on an older slower machine
>such as a 486
[snip]
I find it works great on my Win98 AMD K6-2 350 with moslo and with
sound and mouse working beautifully. It took some fidling with the
config.sys and autoexec.bat. But it works great now.
marcco
>marc...@hotmail.com (marcco) wrote:
>
>>Steve Riese <sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>
>>A word of warning: if you don't have a genuine Soundblaster card like
>>SB16 or AWE32 (which can play sounds in DOS games without loading DOS
>>drivers), expect to have lots of problems trying to get the sounds,
>>mouse, MOSLO and smartdrv to run at the same time (too little memory).
>
>Unless you have a Diamond Sonic Impact S90 PCI sound card, which has
>a very nice DOS TSR driver that works beautifully with Ultima 7. This
Many cards do, but the problem with that "solution" is that the TSR
takes extra memory, which can mean you can't load that mouse or MOSLO
or smartdrv at the same time, which are vital to the game.
If you have a SB16 or 100% compatible (without any TSR), it doesn't
consume any memory in DOS.
Provider
Win98, it is possible that you could have modern video cards such as TNT or
Voodoo for which they won't work with Ultima VII Forge of Virtue. Get Qfix,
at my website http://surf.to/ultima7, to fix that problem should you have
it.
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hkc...@hkchan.pc.my
>Well the easiest way would be to keep your 486 with DOS 6.1 installed on it.
>(*grin*)
>(You could probably get a 486 for about the same price as a 3d card these
>days...)
What we need, is a 486 emulator on the modern PCs.
Kirk Macdonald
Just get a good processor intensive endless loop program running in
the background!
;P
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Knight37
>Shane has already given you an URL for the FAQ. But since you are
>running Win98, it is possible that you could have modern video cards
>such as TNT or Voodoo for which they won't work with Ultima VII Forge of
>Virtue. Get Qfix, at my website http://surf.to/ultima7, to fix that
>problem should you have it.
Voodoo 3 is NOT incompatible. At least, it works on my system.
Marcin Nowak
> Many cards do, but the problem with that "solution" is that the TSR
> takes extra memory, which can mean you can't load that mouse or MOSLO
> or smartdrv at the same time, which are vital to the game.
I don't remember if U7 can stand himem.sys, but if it does, then it
may be possible to create UMBs with umbpci program, and you can
load all the drivers you will ever need.
Marcin
Karrde
<sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>Please forgive a technical question. How do I get Ultima 7 to run under
>Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
>somewhere, so if there is a FAQ somewhere, I'd appreciate it if you could
>direct me there. Seems everytime I get a new computer (286, 486,
>now Pentium) I've got to spend days trying to discover the secret to get
>my Ultimas to run. So far, Commodore 64 was the easiest.
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>
Why not download an SNES emulator, then download the game? All said,
it willtake about a meg of hardrive space, no hardware conflicts, it's
free....there's no bad here. This is assuming the SNES Ultima 7 is
the same as the PC version?
Karrde
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Llorkh Dragon
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that's... like.... um....
hi.
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marcco
>there's a SNES version of U7!?!?!?!?!?!
And U6 too. I have them both as ROM images, and they work with SNES
emulators like ZSNES.
But for what it's worth, at least U7 SNES is crap. I don't like it at
all, it is nothing like the PC version. What's wrong with it? Let's
see, some points I remember:
- All the dialogue is different, and it is poor and simple English.
It feels like that the game was originally in Japanese, and they
translated it into English. It would have been better if they had
used the original dialogue from PC version.
- Music is poor (compared to Roland)
- In the beginning you are not inspecting a murder, but a kidnapping.
Nintendo apparently censored that out and changed it so that console
kids can play too.
- Overall, it is not the Ultima 7 that we know.
The only good things about it were that there are no configuration
problems like in PC version, and it scrolled smoother.
Ultima 6 SNES didn't seem to be as bad, but also in it the dialogue is
a problem. Just watch the intro and see the difference for yourself,
SNES intro made me laugh (negative).
Try these with ZSNES or SNES9x:
Karrde
wrote:
>there's a SNES version of U7!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
>!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>???????????
>
>that's... like.... um....
>hi.
>
>-Nyarlathotep Llorkh Dragon
>
There is also a version of Ultima 6.
I have never played an ultima game, so I don't know if they are
exactly the same. I would assume so, since the titles are the same(IE
Serpent Isle, etc)
Anyone know for sure?
Provider
graphics and no party members. I'll suggest you go for the PC version.
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Llorkh Dragon <llo...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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> there's a SNES version of U7!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> ???????????
>
> that's... like.... um....
> hi.
>
> -Nyarlathotep Llorkh Dragon
>
> Karrde <Kar...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:05:36 -0400, Steve Riese
> > <sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > >Please forgive a technical question. How do I get Ultima 7 to run
under
> > >Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
> > >somewhere, so if there is a FAQ somewhere, I'd appreciate it if you
could
> > >direct me there. Seems everytime I get a new computer (286, 486,
> > >now Pentium) I've got to spend days trying to discover the secret to
get
> > >my Ultimas to run. So far, Commodore 64 was the easiest.
> > >Thanks,
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > Why not download an SNES emulator, then download the game? All said,
> > it willtake about a meg of hardrive space, no hardware conflicts, it's
> > free....there's no bad here. This is assuming the SNES Ultima 7 is
> > the same as the PC version?
> >
> >
Provider
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Marcin Nowak <mnowak@remove_it.mail.cern.ch> wrote in message
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Law
> There is, and you can download it at my website. But it sucks, poorer
> graphics and no party members. I'll suggest you go for the PC version.
do the game world in Snes version is as life like as PC version ?
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The ladies like me just fine (heh, heh, heh).
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Karrde <Kar...@ix.netcom.com> [no relation to me] wrote:
>Why not download an SNES emulator, then download the game? All said,
>it willtake about a meg of hardrive space, no hardware conflicts, it's
>free....there's no bad here. This is assuming the SNES Ultima 7 is
>the same as the PC version?
It's not. It's majorly hacked.
The SNES Ultima 6 is rather better, but it still tries to cram more into a
cart that can really fit, and a number of things are excised.
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hkc...@hkchan.pc.my
>Anyone know for sure?
I have seen U7 on a SNES. The graphics look bad compared to the PC
version.
Allan Peska
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> Steve Riese <sr...@node13.unix.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
>
> >Please forgive a technical question. How do I get Ultima 7 to run under
> >Windows 98? I'm sure this problem has been thoroughly addressed
>
>
> http://users.wantree.com.au/~rsd/ultima7.htm
Are you the Wantree user Marcco? What do you think about the merger between
iiNet and Wantree?
{I worked at Wantree for about a year and abit, and got poached over to
iiNet about 3 months ago}.
Allan-
Slash
>there's a SNES version of U7!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
>!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>???????????
>
>that's... like.... um....
>hi.
>
>-Nyarlathotep Llorkh Dragon
Well, yeah.
-Slash
"In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded."
- Terry Pratchett
Provider
while in Trinsic. Why not download it at my website and play it yourself.
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Law <la...@usa.net> wrote in message news:381A776B...@usa.net...
Marcin Nowak
I just tested and Ultima7 works with umbpci. 617KB conventional and
60KB upper free with disk cache and SBAWE TSR loaded! Woo-hoo!
http://www.conactive.com/win95/files/umbpci_e.zip
Marcin