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John Shaddock

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Apr 4, 2002, 1:36:59 AM4/4/02
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Hi all,

I've just received Wizardry 8 and am just working out the best party to take
first time through. I've found some wiz8 sites that give great advice, and I
have made up my mind except for whether to take a priest or bishop along.
The rest of the party is:

Dracon Fighter
Human Samurai
Human Ranger
Hobbit Bard
Faerie Mage

From what I've gathered the priest will gain levels quicker, be a more
specialised healer and have more hit points. On the other hand the bishop is
more versatile, but will only come into his or her own much later on. What
do other people think?

Also, on levelling up, does the priest need intelligence boosted to benefit
his spells or is that for other magic users only? I know you need to
increase piety...

Any help appreciated,

John


Alma Engels

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Apr 4, 2002, 2:16:34 AM4/4/02
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If this is your first try at the game (I have made several restarts) I think
a priest might be easier to handle though you will miss two schools of magic
until the ranger starts to get spells. You might want to give your priest
or mage stats that will allow conversion to a bishop later. The
disadvantage to this is that the new Bishop starts at a higher level and
takes longer to get sufficient stats to use other fields of magic. Actually
both your priest and mage need both piety and intelligence though the
emphasis is different.

My party in my current game consists of a Mook ranger (there is a sword only
a mook can handle towards the middle of the game, a felpar samurai, a hobbit
gadgeteer and a elven Bishop (from the start) a fairy bishop who was a
psionic till two levels ago (It is difficult getting her enuf points in the
other schools though she is working on magic with a low-level spell.) And a
gnome Alchemist. He will stay an alchemist because he cannot be silenced.
This group was very weak at the beginning but now is strong.

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Andreas Mattern

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Apr 4, 2002, 2:39:39 AM4/4/02
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John Shaddock <j.shaddo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Dracon Fighter
> Human Samurai
> Human Ranger
> Hobbit Bard
> Faerie Mage

> From what I've gathered the priest will gain levels quicker, be a more
> specialised healer and have more hit points. On the other hand the bishop is
> more versatile, but will only come into his or her own much later on. What
> do other people think?

I´d recommend going with the bishop. Your party is a pretty good beginner
party that won´t have too many problems in the beginning (bard rules, don´t
forget to increase his music and locks skills every level up). So you can
take one of the weaker characters in the beginning and pull him through.

I´d recommend specialising in two schools, divinity and alchemy in your
case. With that you can also mix potions later on, *very* helpful. I have
one of those in my current party and it´s a very nice combo.

Get blinding flash as soon as you have the choice when leveling up, that´ll
make the arnika road much easier.

As for long term development, you can give the bishop low level mage/psionic
spells that are *only* in that school. When you have spellpoints to spare
and weak enemies you can cast those and slowly increase your wizardry and
psionic skills without investing points, those should go into your main
schools. That way you get the useful low level spells as well.

Andreas

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John Shaddock

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Apr 4, 2002, 10:50:01 AM4/4/02
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Thanks for (both) the replies.

I'm going to play through the first few levels with an Elf Bishop and see
how I get on. If I can survive that far I'll persevere. As you say Andreas,
I should concentrate on the divinity and alchemy realms at first. This way
he can serve as a healer when necessary (which I'm sure it will be!). I
just hope her low hit points don't cause a problem...

John

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John Shaddock <j.shaddo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> Dracon Fighter
> Human Samurai
> Human Ranger
> Hobbit Bard
> Faerie Mage

> From what I've gathered the priest will gain levels quicker, be a more
> specialised healer and have more hit points. On the other hand the bishop
is
> more versatile, but will only come into his or her own much later on. What
> do other people think?

I悲 recommend going with the bishop. Your party is a pretty good beginner
party that won愒 have too many problems in the beginning (bard rules, don愒


forget to increase his music and locks skills every level up). So you can
take one of the weaker characters in the beginning and pull him through.

I悲 recommend specialising in two schools, divinity and alchemy in your


case. With that you can also mix potions later on, *very* helpful. I have

one of those in my current party and it愀 a very nice combo.

Get blinding flash as soon as you have the choice when leveling up, that惻l

Andreas Mattern

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Apr 4, 2002, 11:02:48 AM4/4/02
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John Shaddock <j.shaddo...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> I'm going to play through the first few levels with an Elf Bishop and see
> how I get on. If I can survive that far I'll persevere. As you say Andreas,
> I should concentrate on the divinity and alchemy realms at first. This way
> he can serve as a healer when necessary (which I'm sure it will be!). I
> just hope her low hit points don't cause a problem...

Everybody can heal... ;) HPs shouldn´t be a problem, just keep them in the
center with a flanker on both sides. Keep to the walls or better fight in a
corner and you´ll do fine. I´m working on a general hint site but I just
don´t have the time to finish it. I´ll post when I finally manage to get it
online, it´ll hopefully contain some good strategies even for advanced
players.

Alfred Hailey

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Apr 4, 2002, 3:00:06 PM4/4/02
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John Shaddock wrote:
> Also, on levelling up, does the priest need intelligence boosted to benefit
> his spells or is that for other magic users only? I know you need to
> increase piety...

A bishop would probably be a superior choice in this case; though they
start off more slowly, the long-term power they gain is enormous
compared to any of the single-type casters.

Intelligence will help a priest's realms improve more quickly.

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John Shaddock

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Apr 4, 2002, 3:23:49 PM4/4/02
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Look forward to seeing your site when it's up and running (to help us
newbies out) :)

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