Morrowind Shots: Holy %#$@...
Fomar
of bugs in Daggerfall I had a helluva lot fun with it and was always
looking forward to its sequel. And after seeing these, I'm even more
excited.
http://www.avault.com/featured/morrow/artwork.asp
Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
Fomar
Fred Q
screenshots...
Chris Simpson
Fred Q wrote:
> I could hear my lowly 300mhz PC choking while I was looking at these
> screenshots...
What screen shots?
Kyle Haight
mr bernard langham <blu...@diespamdie.ii.net> wrote:
>
>This is set in the same universe as Redguard, isn't it? Looks very nice. I
>worry about the hardware requirements though (notice the bump mapping on the
>beast of burden screenshot).
Remember, this game is currently scheduled for release near the end of
2001. Realistically, that means it probably ships no earlier than the
middle of 2002. By that time, the Voodoo 5 will probably be in the
process of getting replaced by the Voodoo 6, the average CPU speed will
be 1.5Ghz and we'll all have a gig of RAM.
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> In article <38e37ee9$0$23...@motown.iinet.net.au>,
> mr bernard langham <blu...@diespamdie.ii.net> wrote:
> >
> >This is set in the same universe as Redguard, isn't it? Looks very
nice. I
> >worry about the hardware requirements though (notice the bump mapping
on the
> >beast of burden screenshot).
>
> Remember, this game is currently scheduled for release near the end of
> 2001. Realistically, that means it probably ships no earlier than the
> middle of 2002. By that time, the Voodoo 5 will probably be in the
> process of getting replaced by the Voodoo 6, the average CPU speed will
> be 1.5Ghz and we'll all have a gig of RAM.
>
Inserted into the base of our skulls, no less! And we'll have flying cars
and get "push-button-itis." Oh, wait... :-)
seffen
Morrowind looks like an Excellent game visually , that is. Hopefully they
release a very bug free , A$$ kicking game. I liked Arena and Daggerfall for
while, but it got boring after 50 hours of playing. I hope it has a very
good story line and doesn't get lost in the game play.
later
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Fomar wrote in message <38E36BD7.C27797AE@im_not_here.com>...
bmc...@no.spam.ca
>Remember, this game is currently scheduled for release near the end of
>2001. Realistically, that means it probably ships no earlier than the
>middle of 2002. By that time, the Voodoo 5 will probably be in the
>process of getting replaced by the Voodoo 6, the average CPU speed will
>be 1.5Ghz and we'll all have a gig of RAM.
>
3D acceleration (but its coming in a patch...) ;=)
- Brian
Sam Schlansky
<38E36BD7.C27797AE@im_not_here.com>:
>I know, I know...can't judge a book by its cover. But despite the
>number of bugs in Daggerfall I had a helluva lot fun with it and
>was always looking forward to its sequel. And after seeing these,
>I'm even more excited.
>
>http://www.avault.com/featured/morrow/artwork.asp
>
>Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
Yeah, the graphics are just amazing... they look like they were
rendered in 3dsmax. Not saying that they WERE, but they look that
good... and the texture variety and quality is just superb.
I wish we had some information about the actual game, though. U9
looked pretty too.
Sam
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Looking at those screenshots, if they aren't 3d-accelerated, it's
gonna run S-L-O-W! :)
noman
In article <38E36BD7.C27797AE@im_not_here.com>, Fomar
<fomar@im_not_here.com> wrote:
>Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
After the texture variety (and quality) of Redguard, I always
expected Marrowind to at least look very good, given the
enhancements with their graphic engine.
One observation ... the Daggerfall hype was built up on
lines, like "the biggest world ever created" ... "continent the
size of Britain" (which isn't saying much though :) )
With Marrowind, while the focus is still "character development"
(like Daggerfall) this time they are aiming for "most detailed
virtual world ever created".
IMO, the scope of a game is in its detail and not primarily in
the size of gameworld (though it's important to some extent).
This new hype line looks promising.
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BrianPK
I guess I know what I'll be playing in 2002. :)
With the comparisons the preview is bound to generate between the two,
somehow, I don't think Morrowwind could possibly be as much of a hypefest
turned major disappointment a la U9. Origin's always been a
mainstream-wanna be,
so it came as no surprise that they dumped their fans. Morrowwind might not
be perfect, but at the very least, the probably won't try the
catering to the 10-15 yr. old demographic group approach.
-BPK
Fomar wrote in message <38E36BD7.C27797AE@im_not_here.com>...
>I know, I know...can't judge a book by its cover. But despite the number
>of bugs in Daggerfall I had a helluva lot fun with it and was always
>looking forward to its sequel. And after seeing these, I'm even more
>excited.
>
>http://www.avault.com/featured/morrow/artwork.asp
>
>Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
>
>Fomar
>
>
>
Scott Shupe
>
> I wish we had some information about the actual game, though. U9
> looked pretty too.
Those ridiculously-detailed screenshots, plus the developers saying
stuff like, "the most detailed virtual world ever," *screamed* Ultima 9
to me. This game is going to be unplayable when it finally gets
released, just like Daggerfall was (and U9 if you didn't have a 3dfx
card). I'm sure people will swallow the hype and the pretty pictures
and buy it anyway, though.
Scott
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Name me just one game that Bethesda has put out that was not totally
riddled with bugs. And every release its always "we will be testing
this game extensivly to make sure there are no bugs". Yea right - been
burned to many times to even get the least excited about this one...
- Brian
Lewis W Beard
> So you haven't installed any of the patches then?
Sure .. but I played it before those and I dont remember it not being
playable. Buggy ... yes. I had thought you were implying the graphics engine
was too advanced or something. *cough* :)
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> of bugs in Daggerfall I had a helluva lot fun with it and was always
> looking forward to its sequel. And after seeing these, I'm even more
> excited.
>
> http://www.avault.com/featured/morrow/artwork.asp
>
> Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
>
This is set in the same universe as Redguard, isn't it? Looks very nice. I
worry about the hardware requirements though (notice the bump mapping on the
beast of burden screenshot).
>^..^<
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Sam Schlansky
<38E3CC33...@ca.metsci.com>:
>Sam Schlansky wrote:
>>
>> I wish we had some information about the actual game, though. U9
>> looked pretty too.
>
>Those ridiculously-detailed screenshots, plus the developers
>saying stuff like, "the most detailed virtual world ever,"
>*screamed* Ultima 9 to me.
Perhaps, but Bethesda doesn't have Pagan under their belts. Both
Arena and Daggerfall were *very* good games once they were fully
patched, remember. I still have hope.
>This game is going to be unplayable
>when it finally gets released, just like Daggerfall was (and U9 if
>you didn't have a 3dfx card). I'm sure people will swallow the
>hype and the pretty pictures and buy it anyway, though.
The difference is that Daggerfall was very playable and very fun a
month or so after release with the patches; Ultima9 is barely
playable and no fun at all right now.
Sam Schlansky
<38E3DA0E.F455014@im_not_here.com>:
>Agreed. A pretty picture does not a fun game make. But I posted
>becuase my excitement outwayed my skepticism ;) Seriously though
>Bethesdas track record for bug free games is certainly not shiney
>but with Arena and DF under their belt I give them the benefit of
>the doubt. At least in DF's case it was more of a matter of the
>gameplay goals getting to big and out of control rather than the
>gameplay goals taking a back seat to the technolgy.
>
>"Yeah, the graphics are just amazing... they look like they were
>rendered in 3dsmax."
>
>Heh, I took a double take too :)
Hey, they ain't Ionstorm!
*coughs*
Sam
>Sam Schlansky wrote:
>
>> fomar@im_not_here.com (Fomar) wrote in
>> <38E36BD7.C27797AE@im_not_here.com>:
>>
>> >I know, I know...can't judge a book by its cover. But despite
>> >the number of bugs in Daggerfall I had a helluva lot fun with
>> >it and was always looking forward to its sequel. And after
>> >seeing these, I'm even more excited.
>> >
>> >http://www.avault.com/featured/morrow/artwork.asp
>> >
>> >Time will tell of course but I'm thinking positive :)
>>
>> Yeah, the graphics are just amazing... they look like they were
>> rendered in 3dsmax. Not saying that they WERE, but they look
>> that good... and the texture variety and quality is just superb.
>>
>> I wish we had some information about the actual game, though. U9
>> looked pretty too.
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>
> sh...@ca.metsci.com (Scott Shupe) wrote in
> <38E3CC33...@ca.metsci.com>:
>
> >Sam Schlansky wrote:
> >>
> >> looked pretty too.
> >
> >saying stuff like, "the most detailed virtual world ever,"
> >*screamed* Ultima 9 to me.
>
> Perhaps, but Bethesda doesn't have Pagan under their belts. Both
> Arena and Daggerfall were *very* good games once they were fully
> patched, remember. I still have hope.
I liked Arena but I'd have to disagree about Daggerfall - it wasn't a
very good game at all. DF is one of the most poorly designed games that
I've ever seen, from beginning to... well, I'd say to the end but I
didn't have the stamina to finish it. Bethesda had lofty goals, but bit
off a LOT more than they could handle. The final product is something
that I'd expect to see from a bunch of college kids with no large-scale
programming experience. An interesting (and seriously flawed)
experiment, but not something that should be sitting on store shelves
for $50.
> >This game is going to be unplayable
> >when it finally gets released, just like Daggerfall was (and U9 if
> >you didn't have a 3dfx card). I'm sure people will swallow the
> >hype and the pretty pictures and buy it anyway, though.
>
> The difference is that Daggerfall was very playable and very fun a
> month or so after release with the patches; Ultima9 is barely
> playable and no fun at all right now.
Depends on your idea of fun, I'd say - plenty of people here have said
they thought U9, fully patched, is great (not me though). I know that I
didn't have any fun wandering through the hell that is DF's
randomly-generated 3D dungeons.
Scott
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some day become. Completely open-ended, taking years (IRT)
to fully explore. Of course, as it's been said, execution
was piss poor. If Bethesda can make a game similar to DF,
except a focus on design coherency and integrity rather than
sheer volume, then even if it's ridden with bugs, chunky
graphics and cheap sound effects, I'll buy it in a second.
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wrote:
>Sure .. but I played it before those and I dont remember it not being
>playable. Buggy ... yes. I had thought you were implying the graphics engine
>was too advanced or something. *cough* :)
It took me 3 patches before I was able to get out of the starting
room. It would have been a truly great game, if it had worked, but I
had a lot of fun with it anyway (between swearing fits when the #&%@*
thing crashed for the 4th time in an hour.) I'm eagerly awaiting the
sequal (but not _too_ eagerly. Please finish it this time before you
ship, Bethesda.)
Led Mirage
>Scott Shupe <sh...@ca.metsci.com> wrote:
>> to me. This game is going to be unplayable when it finally gets
>> released, just like Daggerfall was (and U9 if you didn't have a 3dfx
>
>Why did you consider daggerfall unplayable? I played it fine when it
>came out and I *still* play it.
And Pathesda made all those patches just for the fun of it. Get with
the programme! Just becasue it ran on your machine doesn't mean it
didn't have big problems. It ran well on my machine, too, but I can't
ignore all the complains and the fact the Pathesda made all those bug
patches.
Led Mirage
wrote:
>Depends on your idea of fun, I'd say - plenty of people here have said
>they thought U9, fully patched, is great (not me though). I know that I
>didn't have any fun wandering through the hell that is DF's
>randomly-generated 3D dungeons.
Even when you tried to avoid the dungeons, the quests were still very
bland and worse illogical. They totally destroy any suspension of
disbelief.
Led Mirage
wrote:
>Just wait for hype type of "NEW AND INCREDIBLE X(2)-ENGINE" that will clip
>things in a manner that a Titanic could slip between a wall and roof...
And an automap that'll redefine modern art. You'll never look at
speghetti the same way again.
Funny, though that all their other games that used the XEngine didn't
have clipping problem.
Slash
scribbled:
>Sam Schlansky wrote:
>>
>> I wish we had some information about the actual game, though. U9
>> looked pretty too.
>
>Those ridiculously-detailed screenshots, plus the developers saying
>stuff like, "the most detailed virtual world ever," *screamed* Ultima 9
>to me. This game is going to be unplayable when it finally gets
>released, just like Daggerfall was (and U9 if you didn't have a 3dfx
>card). I'm sure people will swallow the hype and the pretty pictures
>and buy it anyway, though.
>
>Scott
Daggerfall was unplayable? Are you referring to the bugs or the system
reqs? I never had a problem running it when it came out...
-Slash
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> the size of gameworld (though it's important to some extent).
> This new hype line looks promising.
to buy, my dark elf vampire warrior maiden looked GOOD (and had
a dress for every possible ocasion from a grand ball or a funky
techno-rave party) in daggerfall. I mean, would'nt you run from
a flying vampire who shoots fireballs while wearing a halter
top and miniskirt?
I'd like the ability to hire NPCs as guards, buy houses, stores,
form a business... but that's just iceing.
-Inky
(ps. yeah. I literaly spent days looking for just the right
matching pair of shoes. Why spend days in an icky dungeon
when you can shop. Was a fun mini-game)
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>
> It does look good BUT...
>
> Name me just one game that Bethesda has put out that was not totally
> riddled with bugs. And every release its always "we will be testing
> this game extensivly to make sure there are no bugs". Yea right - been
> burned to many times to even get the least excited about this one...
>
> - Brian
>
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to find matching sets of armor. You thought coordinating your
outfit was hard? There's nothing more tacky than wearing a
Dwarven cuirass with Elvish Greaves. It's just not done. And the
garish combinations of ebony, daedric, and orcish? Looks like a
court jester. No, no, no! Unsightly. You cannot imagine the
trouble and pain I went through to get my Nord mercenary a
complete matching set of ebony plate, with that bustier-like
cuirass, and nice gold-trimmed greaves, ick, ick, ick.
But yes, I'll be seriously disappointed if they leave out the
ability to be the fashion plate. Many of the TES diehards will
be, as well. I don't think we'll be disappointed.
Mark Volk, Jr.
Member, A.C.T.I.V.
(Allied Collectors and Traders Indigenous to Virginia)
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The first Bethesda game I ever tried was Gridiron, a football game for
the Amiga (great game). The next one was Wayne Gretzky Hockey also
for the Amiga (IMHO the BEST hockey game ever written for a computer
but buggy as hell). Since then Every Bethesda game I have bought has
been a major disapointment. I remember getting WGH for the PC when it
came out. It was so bad that it was unplayable, so it went back on the
shelf. I took if off after a couple of years and installed it. I
called the Bethesda tech support line to ask about patches and was
told "sorry, we no longer support that game. Please talk to the store
you purchased it from for support" - If I could have reached through
the phone...
Anyway, enough rambling. I have absolutely no confidance in Bethesda
at all - none, zero, zilch. I will NEVER purchase a game from them on
inital release again.
Scott Shupe
>
> Daggerfall was unplayable? Are you referring to the bugs or the system
> reqs? I never had a problem running it when it came out...
The bugs. Even now that it's as patched as it's going to get, there
still crap like falling through floors into nether-space and
semi-frequent crashes...
Scott
Peacedog1
>Even when you tried to avoid the dungeons, the quests were still very
>bland and worse illogical. They totally destroy any suspension of
>disbelief.
Especially when you continually ran into 2 or 3 monster types in the same vast,
twisted, boring dungeon over and over and over...
Slash
scribbled:
>Slash wrote:
Ok, yes. I have many fond memories of drifting down through the
catacombs, watching the tunnels slowly float upward around me.
Sam Schlansky
<mvraesoviid00p4vd...@4ax.com>:
>Another User Pays Beta with another VOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As opposed to, say, being in beta for six years like Grimoire,
Marcus?
Sam
Led Mirage
>Another User Pays Beta with another VOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Preach on brother! Pathesda sux!
Ykalon Dragon
>
> They are still releasing patches for Daggerfraud!!
>
>
No the last patch was released more than 2 years ago I think. Please
don't
come out with statements you can't prove.
Daniel Lemberg
had worked on Arena and Daggerfall. Great... more bugs :(
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