Remakes of "classic" crpgs ? Any one them finished ?
Konrad Gaertner
>
> I have been reading of an Ultima Underworld with today's graphics and
> of many other oldies being renovated for years now ... however, none
> of those projects seems to get finished ... (unless you count the
> exult project which does not really change the looks of the game)
>
> anything going on out there ?
The Ur-Quan Masters (remake of Star Control 2, version 0.3 now
availble) is good, and while not technically "finished", it's
playable, winnable, and I can't find many missing features. The
graphics haven't been updated (yet), but much of the music has been,
and I think you can play it at higher resolutions than originally
possible (I can't because my video card doesn't support OpenGL).
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Arcana Dragon
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While OS-programs (compatibility issues are extremely annoying) and games
are free, they always seem to be buggy and crappy. I prefer mainstream
software.
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Werner Purrer
>
> While OS-programs (compatibility issues are extremely annoying) and games
> are free, they always seem to be buggy and crappy. I prefer mainstream
> software.
Well, the Urquan Masters is slightly different, since it shares the same
codebase as the original Star Control 2 and also it shares the artwork,
basdically what you have here is an updated Star Control 2.5 moved towards
a cross platform library (SDL)
The quality of OSS games is a different issue, if a game doesnt find enough
developers it doesn't come out of the stage you describe, but yet there are
some projects which really have commercial quality, exult for instance, and
various strategy games. I think the biggest obstacle those projects in
reality face is not the bugs but that the developers usually won't find
enough artists who are willing to donate time, so they stop the project
before most of the bugs are resolved.
But yet despite no budget and a severe lack of artists the codebase which
currently exists is rather impressive and future developers can build upon
it to make good games.
But the whole thing is an evolutionary process anyway, once codebase builts
upon the other so that in time the games will become better.
The whole Freecraft fiasco seems to have ended in a good end, with a handful
of projects taking over the codebase moving the game in a totally different
route.
Werner Purrer
> I have been reading of an Ultima Underworld with today's graphics and
> of many other oldies being renovated for years now ... however, none
> of those projects seems to get finished ... (unless you count the
> exult project which does not really change the looks of the game)
>
exult currently reaches 1.1 status :-)
and yes some of the akalabeth and ultima 3 and 4 remakes are done already.
p_conrad
<tini_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have been reading of an Ultima Underworld with today's graphics and
>of many other oldies being renovated for years now ... however, none
>of those projects seems to get finished ... (unless you count the
>exult project which does not really change the looks of the game)
>
>anything going on out there ?
>
><<< Tina >>>
I just played the remake of Sword of Fargoal to victory. I had to
cheat like crazy (backing up saves) but it was fun. Granted, it's
roguelike, at best, but it's a ton of fun:
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Sword+of+Fargoal+Remake%2C+The
Tons of remakes here, some are RPG, various states of readiness:
Devil Whiskey was just done. There is a Wizardry clone on the above
site that is mostly done. I think there's a clone of Grimore in the
works that may actually beat the original to market.
PBC
m.m.m.m.m.m.m....What was my e-mail address?
Christopher Tong
>>http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Sword+of+Fargoal+Remake%2C+The
> thanks a lot for the hint, I adored that game !!!
>
> however, that link only leads to spam and spyware ... :(
It works for me, but only if I copy and paste the link into the bowser.
Do not click on the link if you're in an embedded newsreader.
Chris
p_conrad
<tini_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Before the Sun had fallen far from the moon out of the East there came
>a great Christopher Tong <ct...@polbox.com> flying, and bore tidings
>beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying:
>no, the link does go the the underdogs page alright, but on this page
>there is a "where to get it" link, leading here :
>http://www.the-underdogs.org/downloadfile.php?file=games/s/sofremake/files/sofremake.zip&id=4527
>
>which takes to entering some 5 digit stuff which yields this spam-crap
>(fake weather reports, fake virus warnings and such thing ...)
>
>
><<< Tina >>>
That's not why the 5 digits were employed. The Home of the Underdogs
is the greatest single library of abandonware in existence. Freeware
and Shareware games are also featured here. The reason you need to
enter the 5 digits is because the site was getting a lot of bandwidth
stealing. This makes it much harder for other sites to link directly
to the files. I do not think I've ever received any spyware from the
Underdogs per se, but I run Ad Aware regularly to purge what I do pick
up.
The Retro Remakes site does not have a link to the source of the
Remake of The Sword of Fargoal, although the documentation would seem
to indicate that there was a relationship between the author of the
remake and Retro Remakes. I can only conclude that the Remake of the
Sword of Fargoal lost it's web site for some reason. So, I can't find
anywhere besides the Underdogs to download it from.
It's certainly worth installing Ad Aware or something similar to get
access to the files contained on The Home of the Underdogs. The
remake of the Sword of Fargoal is so good, that alone is worth it,
IMO. You're going get zapped with spyware and adware at some point
anyway. The only real way to deal with it is to install some
protection.
Beetlecat
"Tina Fisher" <tini_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >
>
>
> thanks but: why do they wish to install this crappy spyspam shit ?
>
> you are saying the 5 digits are for savin bandwith ? so why do I get a
> prompt asking me to install their weather report shit?
>
> banners, ok, pop-ups - ok if need be, but i will not support a site
> that uses such methods - any newbie will fall for those fake setup
> windows and instead of "sword of fargoal" (which isn't even available
> at the underdog site if you refuse to install their ad-crap) gets
> loads of bull ...
>
> besides, you are NOT going to be zapped with spy- and adware if you
> know what to avoid ...
>
> again thanks for the hint, but : no thanks !
>
> <<< Tina >>>
> --
I think you misunderstand,
The underdogs site does not require installation of anything before
downloading items. You can simply close all of the popups and such (I do
agree, however, they are a bit too prevalent) and get right to the gaming
goodness!
-cheers
p_conrad
<tini_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>besides, what I criticized is the fact that they prompt the user to
>install this crap - the innocent internet user will easily get
>infected with this stuff - there is no warning "hey this is spyware,
>don't install" - this is unethical imho
I honestly do not believe that entering the 5 digits on the Underdogs
has anything to do with spyware. You can close all the pop-ups, by
you do have to enter the 5 digits. I take the site's author at his
word for two things:
1. He has no control over which pop-ups you get
2. The purpose of entering the 5 digits is to foil bandwidth thieves
who have a history of linking directly to his files.
The 5 digits has only been there about a month. Underdogs has been
around for years, and is a truly amazing collection of software you
can't buy anymore.
As for luring innocent users into a world of spyware, whatever. Just
because there's a large segment of the population that has no idea
what adware and spyware is, is no excuse for you to jog the
superhighway without shoes. I have absolutely been slammed with
spyware and adware without ever saying yes to any questions on a
dialog box. I'm willing to bet you have too. If you install
something like Ad Aware, then, you'll know.
The name of the zip file is sofremake.zip. If I could have found it
anywhere else, I would have included the link. As far as I can tell,
it's only at the Underdogs. Slander that site all you want, but
you're missing out on a great game.
Lucian Wischik
>I honestly do not believe that entering the 5 digits on the Underdogs
>has anything to do with spyware.
I've never seen any spyware or popups on the Underdogs. (I still have
to enter the 5 digits).
Actually, I use "The Proxomitron" which removes almost all popups and
advertising from web pages. That's probably why I don't see it at the
Underdogs. Presumably, as you indicate, the people i/c of underdogs
show banner ads to try to recoup their bandwidth/hosting costs.
Anyway, this makes it clear that any spyware that the person saw was
entirely unelated to the underdogs and the 5-digits, and was purely
advertising banners.
--
Lucian
Christopher Tong
> no, the link does go the the underdogs page alright, but on this page
> there is a "where to get it" link, leading here :
> http://www.the-underdogs.org/downloadfile.php?file=games/s/sofremake/files/sofremake.zip&id=4527
>
> which takes to entering some 5 digit stuff which yields this spam-crap
> (fake weather reports, fake virus warnings and such thing ...)
Spam? I just get the "save-file" prompt from my browser. The file I'm
asked to save is "Sofremake.zip".
What browser are you using? I got Mozilla to swallow all the pop-ups.
Chris
Chris Proctor
> I really appreciate all of your help, but despite what you all are
> claiming, each and everytime I try download the file (after entering
> the digits and getting rid of the "install weather report" prompt) I
> get the following page only (bottom of post)
>
> GetRight is deactivated and I cannot believe that the server has been
> busy for 5 days now ... weird ...
>
> 4. You may also be trying to resume downloads with Getright or
> Go!Zilla improperly. Please read the FAQ to learn how resume with
> these programs. Thanks.
Did you try it without getright?
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Chris Proctor