Amazingly good idea
johns
to "take it to 'em". He went to Amazon.com, which sells
G3FG, and posted the harshest review of FG he could
think of ... and then posted at Jowood for others to do
the same at all of the gaming sales sites. And they are
doing it.
I'm all for it too. As a matter of fact I highly recommend
that any reviews of Fallout 3 include comments about
content such as KILLING GIRLS with a baseball bat,
and removing their clothes. Maybe some Men in Black
could drive over from DC and have a little talk with the
manager of Bethesda.
johns
Cavadure
Yeah, we need *more* organized posting of bad reviews.
I pretty much ignore customer reviews of PC games at Amazon anymore.
WDS
Wow. How mature of you.
John Lewis
wrote:
You seem to be a total fruit-and-nut cake. Sure you can kill little
girls (like any other NPC without high armor-points) with a Baseball
bat in Fallout3 IF YOU ARE SICK ENOUGH IN YOUR MIND TO WANT TO. Better
there than in real life, I suppose......
I am still playing FO3 and I have no personal inclination to kill any
of the children in the game, nor strip their clothes. I did not even
think of doing so before this stupid posting !! Nice to know that you
harbor these dark thoughts under your revoltingly sanctimonious
veneer.
John Lewis
Darin Johnson
> Sure you can kill little
> girls (like any other NPC without high armor-points) with a Baseball
> bat in Fallout3
Actually, you can't. You can't kill any children in the game.
You can kill women though, but even then you can't completely
disrobe them as was implied.
CoinSpin
Yah, I gave up on them after both Spore and FO3 started getting massive
bad review *before they had even been released*
I'm all for honest evaluations by actual people who bought and
experienced the product, but allowing that rampant slamming of games by
people who never having bought or played them pretty much convinced me
that Amazon ratings have absolutely no relevance to anything except: a)
the egomaniacal tendencies of rabid hatemongers, and b) the egomaniacal
tendencies of rabid fanboys. It's an amusing thing to examine,
sometimes the reviews are on target later in the game's life, but I
usually take them with a grain of salt.
All that said, it *was* kinda interesting to see the rants about Spore's
DRM prior to release... I guess in some ways the negative press option
can have an impact, but it shouldn't have been in a category of
"customer reviews" before a product was even available. Hrmmmm.
--
~ CoinSpin
John Lewis
<da...@usa.net> wrote:
>On Jan 21, 6:14=A0pm, john....@verizon.net (John Lewis) wrote:
>> Sure you can kill little
>> girls (like any other NPC without high armor-points) with a Baseball
>> bat in Fallout3
>
>Actually, you can't. You can't kill any children in the game.
Thanks so much for the clarification. I had not even tried to kill the
children, so I assumed wrong.... (US version?)
Even a clearer demonstration of "johns" wacko views.
He claims to own the game (US version), so I wrongly assumed that he
actually checked out all of the "facts" before posting this drivel. I
should have known better, based on his posting history.
>You can kill women though, but even then you can't completely
>disrobe them as was implied.
That I know, having claimed armor from female Raiders etc.. Although
with the FO3 mod tools, no doubt there will be those modders who want
to tittilate, just as they have done with Oblivion.
John Lewis
Vincenzo Beretta
> anymore.
Pity, because the "Spore" ones hit the nail on the head - something unheard
of in the "press" ones.
Cavadure
I want honest reviews of the gameplay, not organized downranking.
Spore gameplay wouldn't interest me, so I was in no danger of buying
that game.
Mark Morrison
wrote:
I occasionally arrange dead bodies for amusing screenshots, but I
don't do anything KINKY with them.
johns
In FO3, right after you first go outside, go down
the path to the Grammer School. It is full of females
in Environ suits. They will attack you, and at that
time, you'll only have a baseball bat to defend with.
If you search them, it strips their suits off, and leaves
them laying there dead with nothing on but their
underware. I turned the game off ... permenantly
... after that little bit of SICK-O. I would really like
to see the FEDS walk in the front door of Bethesda
and maybe have their employees take a few mental
profiling tests. Check out what else they have on
their computers !
johns
WDS
> the path to the Grammer School. It is full of females
> in Environ suits. They will attack you, and at that
> time, you'll only have a baseball bat to defend with.
> If you search them, it strips their suits off, and leaves
> them laying there dead with nothing on but their
> underware.
Killing women with baseball bats is wrong yet you have no trouble
hacking MEN apart with SWORDS in your favorite game? I think you are
confused about many things in life there dude.
CoinSpin
Heh, missed his previous post there, he's still in the "bad or
psychotic" killfile section for me...
So, umm, johns... Did you actually even bother looking at the rating
for the game? M for Mature (as in old enough to take it or leave it),
"Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Sexual Themes, Strong Language, Use
of Drugs." It's right on the box, clear as day. Labeled so no complete
idiots will play the game and start ranting about the content, they were
duly warned prior to opening or purchasing. Assuming, of course, it
*was* purchased???
Seriously, you need a new hobby... RPG gaming is obviously not working
out for you.
--
~ CoinSpin
KCB
"johns" <john...@moscow.com> wrote in message
news:d4226478-7412-4217...@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Didn't you get a gun in Vault 101? And of course, searching somebody
doesn't automatically take their apparel; you have to choose to take it.
Did you not take any of the security guards clothing? Did you notice
they were in their underwear if you took it?
johns
> out for you.
Heh! If the bastards think they can talk past
me on this subject, I've got news for them. The
M rating in a game store filled with 90% kids
is about as meaningless as a rating can get.
At the same time, nothing was out there regards
what is clearly a perverse theme. It is going to
get interesting when Amazon, et al, can't sell
this crap anymore. FG was nothing but a beta
.. or even an alpha ... and just plain silly, breaking
a long standing series. FO3 is clearly perverse,
and grammer school kids can get it, and they
will act out parts of it on their playgrounds. When
this happens, I hope the FEDS take it right to
the main office of Bethesda.
johns
johns
> Killing women with baseball bats is wrong yet you have no trouble
> hacking MEN apart with SWORDS in your favorite game? I think you are
> confused about many things in life there dude.
There's a big difference between King Arthur and
Necromancer perversion that has no redeeming
value at all. Any normal person can see that .. in
a court of law.
johns
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
johns <john...@moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Killing women with baseball bats is wrong yet you have no trouble
>> confused about many things in life there dude.
>
>There's a big difference between King Arthur and
>Necromancer perversion that has no redeeming
>value at all. Any normal person can see that .. in
>a court of law.
When I vote to elect legislators and judges, I always make sure to
research each candidate's stance on necromancy. I feel very strongly that
use of one's body after death requires legal consent, as it does with
medical research. I'm still worried about the lack of documentation
included in most western burial practices, and so I have a clause in my
will specifying that I'm to be interred with notarized funerary orders on
synthetic, non-organic paper. I'm disappointed to know that neither
American presidential candidate made a public stance against or in favor
of necromancy.
-KKC
--
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Etal
You misunderstand. It isn't killing women with baseball bats that
'johns' have a problem with. It's the women laying around in
their underwear that is shocking and in his opinion a federal
crime. 'johns' is just living up to the stereotype of a
puritanical USoAmerican.
--
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Please followup in the newsgroup.
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John Lewis
wrote:
>> I occasionally arrange dead bodies for amusing screenshots, but I
>> don't do anything KINKY with them.- Hide quoted text -
>
>In FO3, right after you first go outside, go down
>the path to the Grammer School. It is full of females
>in Environ suits. They will attack you, and at that
>time, you'll only have a baseball bat to defend with.
>If you search them, it strips their suits off, and leaves
>them laying there dead with nothing on but their
>underware.
underwear, actually..... Please use a spell-checker....
>I turned the game off ... permenantly
>... after that little bit of SICK-O. I would really like
>to see the FEDS walk in the front door of Bethesda
>and maybe have their employees take a few mental
>profiling tests. Check out what else they have on
>their computers !
>
You don't seem to have any problem with men in their underclothes in
the game. There are both male and female baddies in the school....
Given your remarks above, you must have a very big problem indeed if
you ever visit a popular beach in summer......Maybe the ladies in FO3
should wear skimpy bikinis under their armor and then you would be
happy? Do you call in the local police, or just jump straight to the
FBI? How many times have you been jailed for being a public nuisance
by wasting police time? Have you seen your doctor recently/ Time you
paid a visit and outlined your problems with seeing women in
underclothes. He/she should be able to get you professional help.
You don't happen to be related to this person, by any chance:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)
You and he would get on famously.
Er, maybe I should rephrase the last sentence... on second thoughts...
no.....
Jack is now no longer an attorney, by the way. His license was
permanently pulled for gross professional misconduct.
You did buy FO3 retail? If so, did you happen to read the rating
label? Can you understand the simple English terms on the label?
Do you always take yourself seriously?? You claim to work for a
high-tech company. You must be a source of considerable amusement for
your co-workers.
John Lewis
>johns
>
Badbark
> and grammer school kids can get it, and they
> will act out parts of it on their playgrounds. When
> this happens, I hope the FEDS take it right to
> the main office of Bethesda.
>
> johns
Spot on johns. Whenever, some FO3 playing kid kills a young women with
a baseball bat and stripes her down to her underwear you'll have been
proved right.....
Badbark
Memnoch
Or maybe the ones in real life at the beach should wear power armour?
Briarroot
> ... FO3 is clearly perverse,
> and grammer school kids can get it, and they
> will act out parts of it on their playgrounds. When
> this happens, I hope the FEDS take it right to
> the main office of Bethesda.
>
If you nutjobs succeed in getting FO3 banned, grammar school kids will
go right back to watching TV, where there is already an abundance of
half-clothed women. Whaddaya gonna do about *that* ?
--
"Every time we object to a thing being done by government, the
socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all." - Frederic
Bastiat
Wolfing
sell porn movies that are clearly rated 'for Adults Only', should the
feds bang on Vivid's doors too? I could also strip a Barbie doll to
nakedness (which is actually more than what you can do in Fallout 3).
Why the double standard?
WDS
"Necromancer perversion" in Fallout 3? Wow, I must have missed
something.
You have a very strange sense of morals.
CoinSpin
Why ask for logic? As was mentioned by someone else, you see more skin
at a beach, and more skin and much more violence on standard network TV,
but apparently johns isn't a part of that world. I find it rather funny
that he thinks it is a federal offense for the characters to be able to
be stripped to their *gasp* underwear! Not nude, hell Conan has more
lewd skin and sexy time stuff than FO3 does, but oh well. I mean, I can
strip my Guild Wars character down to its underwear and dance around in
towns, maybe the feds should shut them down too!
I think it's just a case of a bag of wind that needs to vent off
pressure every once in a while, and if there's no logical conversation,
throwing out warped moral viewpoints and trying to impose them on the
world will do just fine.
--
~ CoinSpin
WDS
> ...I can
> strip my Guild Wars character down to its underwear and dance around in
> towns, maybe the feds should shut them down too!
Only if you beat yourself to death with a baseball bat, too.
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
WDS <Bi...@seurer.net> wrote:
>On Jan 22, 5:11?pm, johns <johns...@moscow.com> wrote:
>> > Killing women with baseball bats is wrong yet you have no trouble
>> > confused about many things in life there dude.
>>
>> There's a big difference between King Arthur and
>> Necromancer perversion that has no redeeming
>> value at all. Any normal person can see that .. in
>> a court of law.
>
>"Necromancer perversion" in Fallout 3? Wow, I must have missed
>something.
>
>You have a very strange sense of morals.
It just dawned on me that 'necrophiliac' was the intended word. Being
immersed in fantasy RPGs as we are, I'm inclined to forgive the errant
substitution of vocabulary there.
I think it's worth mentioning, in the spirit of respectful disagreement,
that exploring a concept in any fiction (games included) doesn't
necessarily indicate a real life interest in the same concept. I'm happy
to shoot a large gun in an FPS, but I don't have any motivation to handle
real firearms. I love boating around the Caribbean in a pirate ship Sid
Meier built out of pixels, but I have no desire to set foot on a real
sailing vessel. Just because you can inflict degrading violence on someone
in a game doesn't mean you feel the need to do so in real life.
-KKC, who wonders if the Uncharted Waters MMO got released in the west.
John Lewis
Your very logical arguments carry no weight with a mind-control wacko
like "johns".
Maybe "johns" thinks that the old Tom and Jerry cartoons should be
totally banned for inciting violence in our susceptible youngsters.
Used to watch a bunch of those in my youth. Great fun....Have not
killed or maimed anybody. Used to enjoy all the old cowboys 'n indians
movies too. Oh, while he is at it maybe he could go afterr the banning
of physically harmful slap-stick movies like the "The Three Stooges"
and "Laurel and Hardy". Obviously, "johns" does not understand the
term "escapism"... Poor "johns" must have a truly miserable life, for
ever trapped in a realism world.... He should give up buying computer
games with anything higher than an "E" rating. He claims to have
*BOUGHT* FO3... I doubt it. Well, if he did indeed buy it, I'm sure
that he will get a bunch of his money back on eBay, if he doesn't mind
the possibility of a purchase by a depraved youngster pretending to be
over 18 years old....
John Lewis
Cavadure
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:33:37 -0600, Kendrick Kerwin Chua
>
>
>
>
>
> >In article <2e2c9dac-bace-4891-b5b5-09daa0e8f...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Maybe he becomes uncomfortably excited at the thought of scantily clad
cadavers?
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Sounds kinda like johns is a sock puppet for Jack Thompson.
Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
Cavadure
> that any reviews of Fallout 3 include comments about
> content such as KILLING GIRLS with a baseball bat,
> and removing their clothes. Maybe some Men in Black
> could drive over from DC and have a little talk with the
> manager of Bethesda.
I finally got around to starting FO3 yesterday and I quite like it. I
am wondering though, did you take a bat to Amata? If so, what on
earth gave you the idea the game encouraged you to do this?
John Lewis
<toxaris...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Apparently, the game prevents any actual damage to the youngsters.
I am currently playing FO3, but I have zero inclination to find out.
Even in a game, for me any abusive action on an obviously innocent
child crosses a forbidden line. Deliberately evil child-characters or
children that become evil during the course of a game are a totally
different matter.
"johns" appears to be reciting 3rd-party "information". He claims to
own the game, which I doubt, but if he really does and with regard to
his "underclothes" concern, was he unable to read the words beside the
big ESPB "M" designation??
Oh, by the way, for "johns" further reference, FO3 has a reasonable
share of '4-letter words', so I suggest that he play the game with the
dialog turned off.
John Lewis
Leo
There have always been crazy people who go out and do crazy
things in RL. They gravitate towards stories that have violence, but
see them differently and take something different away from them than
us normal people. But if you banned games and television and movies,
they'd find it in comic books, their own stories around the water
cooler, or even the bible, which has plenty of horribly over the top
violence in it. Before there was such a thing as television and
movies and video games and d&d and the internet, even guns, there were
crazy people who'd go out and commit sick acts of violence just for
the joy of it, perhaps more even, per capita wise. Heck, violent
games and movies might reduce such by giving these people an
alternative outlet, which for some, might actually be enough, whereas
they had no such outlet in the olden days, except for the real thing.
beer is good. found some redhook blackhook in the store,
wanted to try their dark beer, but never saw it anywhere except on
their web site (I'm partial to dark beers), not even on tap anywhere
(aside from their brewery to which I have not been). So was glad to
find some in the store the other day. Also wanna try the macnjaks
dark beer, might make a trip to their brewery just to do so. Unlike
redhook, I really like their other beers, so I have high expectations
to be wowed, but macnjaks isn't sold in stores at all, can only get
any of their beers on tap, think they ahve too high of an alcohol
content or some such to be in stores.
Leo
Leo
blabbed:
>
>Didn't you get a gun in Vault 101? And of course, searching somebody
>doesn't automatically take their apparel; you have to choose to take it.
>Did you not take any of the security guards clothing? Did you notice
>they were in their underwear if you took it?
Don't you know, they should have made it so that when you take
someone's clothing, that they magically develop new clothing, just
like real life dead people. You don't see naked dead people around
the streets do you? do you! Well that's why. duuh.
Leo