My PC is not cutting edge (several years years old, 3 GHz, 512 MB Ram,
NVIDIA GEforce FX 5200).
I have played and enjoyed Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale I & II, Neverwinter
Nights. I have tried and didn't like, Planescape:Torment (yes I know it is
beloved I just couldn't get into it), Temple of Elemental Evil, Wizardry 8.
Diablo style games are not really my cup of tea.
My favorite is Icewind Dale I, as a frame of reference.
I prefer turn based or at least able to issue commands while paused. (IE not
a click-fest) Even though most of the above are D&D games, I am not wed to
that.
I downloaded the Divine Divinity demo, this could fit the bill,
unfortunately it is so dim that I canot see anything and the ingame graphic
adjustments are disabled in the demo.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I have played and enjoyed all the games you listed that you liked. I
have also played and did not like all the same ones you mentioned except
Wizardry. I never tried that one. Anyway, so maybe our tastes are
similar in games. Divine Divinity is one of my all time favorites so I
would recommend it. Another one I really did enjoy was Sacred. I
haven't tried the new one yet but the first one was fun. My all time
favorite RPG is Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura. If you can
find it, I would definitely recommend giving it a try. These are all
games I have and will again replay. They should all work fine on your
computer.
Paula
You could perhaps easily & cheaply put extra RAM Memory in your machine.
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Maybe Eschalon? It's tile-based but I thought it was a lot of fun.
http://basiliskgames.com
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Michael Cecil
Turos the Champion, Krond the Guard and Malmo the Burglar
of the Guardians of Anduin on Elendilmir of LotRO
Nod, nod, nod. Although two caveats: Sacred which I also like (funnily
enough I started playing it again 3 days ago) is probably quite close in
character and feel to Diablo, so the OP may in fact NOT enjoy it.
I, personally, have also never been able to get into Arcanum. The game
just doesn't work for me, somehow.
Divine Divinity is a great and not-too-hard solo rpg that I got to like
better and better the longer I played it. Highly recommend it.
-P.
The only other ones I would add (given the hardware config), OTTOMH,
would be:
Avencast (NWN1 engine, but totally different game, not D&D based; not
bad overall imo)
Dungeon Siege 2: better than the 1st :)
Fallout 1/2: have you played these? you must if you haven't...
NWN1/2: (obvious ones, though I'm not sure your rig will cope with the
2nd well)
Spellforce 2: not a bad RTS/RPG hybrid that's not too clicky
Spiderweb Software games: best indy value for money - there are many
titles - Avernum is team-based, Geneforge more sci-fi solo; all are
TB/pausable
Star Wolves1/2: good eastern block space rpg
Summoner: best console port to PC ever; has a bit of chain-linked
combos, but that's just timing, not clickfesty (+ you can put your
attacks in auto-mode anyway); great characters, story, etc.
Realms of Arkania trilogy: a bit older, but a lot of folk loved it
Zanzarah: fairy-based rpg; real-time fairy combat, but it's so cute &
cuddly I just had to mention it <G>
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Nostromo
I loved Star Wolves 1 (despite the engrish :p) and just started on Star
Wolves 2. It's fun but... I dunno I'm having trouble getting into it to
start off with. The initial fights are a bit silly difficulty wise,
Alien Gunships two shotting my own fighters etc. I'll stick to it, but
yeah, frustrating and not as engaging as the first is my initial impression.
I must check out the Spiderweb Software games you mentioned though, I'm
playing the Eschalon Book 1 demo on my laptop atm (Acer Aspire mini one)
and while I'm enjoying it it's not that great. I still want some small
indie games to play on the lappy though so I'll keep hunting.
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Ceo
But Sacred is a Diablo clone, so probably won't work for the OP.
Arcanum would work if he can get past the cyber-punk-gothic style
which I couldn't.
My suggestions:
- How about tactical games? I loved Heroes of Might & Magic, 3 and 5
totally recommended. Also, you must try king's bounty (the new
version released last year). Very good game! Also Fantasy Wars (I
think it's called)
- There are some european/russian games that might be what you want
too: Ascension to the Throne, Drakensang (to be released Feb. 18th I
believe), and of course Dragon Age (to be released Q1 09)
Maybe so but somehow I didn't like Diablo at all but liked Sacred so
that's why I suggested it.
I've been playing a demo of Drakensang and am really liking it. He
said older games so I didn't think of it but, ya, if you could play it
on your computer I'd give that one a try, too.
>> The only other ones I would add (given the hardware config), OTTOMH,
>> would be:
>>
>> Avencast (NWN1 engine, but totally different game, not D&D based; not
>> bad overall imo)
>> Dungeon Siege 2: better than the 1st :)
>> Fallout 1/2: have you played these? you must if you haven't...
>> NWN1/2: (obvious ones, though I'm not sure your rig will cope with the
>> 2nd well)
>> Spellforce 2: not a bad RTS/RPG hybrid that's not too clicky
>> Spiderweb Software games: best indy value for money - there are many
>> titles - Avernum is team-based, Geneforge more sci-fi solo; all are
>> TB/pausable
>> Star Wolves1/2: good eastern block space rpg
>
>I loved Star Wolves 1 (despite the engrish :p) and just started on Star
>Wolves 2. It's fun but... I dunno I'm having trouble getting into it to
>start off with. The initial fights are a bit silly difficulty wise,
>Alien Gunships two shotting my own fighters etc. I'll stick to it, but
>yeah, frustrating and not as engaging as the first is my initial impression.
Hmmm, I didn't get that impression, but I think I ramped up my fighters
early on. Have you tried Nexus:The Jupiter Incident btw? Best space hybrid
(action/adventure/rts/rpg) I've played to date - it defies genre
classification really.
>I must check out the Spiderweb Software games you mentioned though, I'm
>playing the Eschalon Book 1 demo on my laptop atm (Acer Aspire mini one)
>and while I'm enjoying it it's not that great. I still want some small
>indie games to play on the lappy though so I'll keep hunting.
I didn't like Eschalon all that much (movement irked me & early combat/diff
vs. reward was too steep imo - too slow going for my liking).
Seems all I play these days are older or indy titles on the laptop. Nothing
has been able to grab me for more than a sessions or two on the desktop in a
long time (except the lotro weekly team game). With these C2D cpus you can
get away with a lot without a monster vidcard these days (it happily plays
lotro as well, though in low rez, the likes of GW, HGL, Galciv2, etc. Lazy
mobile computing is sure hard to beat ;).
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Nostromo
Odd - I have Nexus, unopened, in a box 'somewhere' - a couple of years ago I
won the 'box of crap' contest from gogamer.com and it arrived along with a
bunch of other utterly random stuff. I'll have to give it go this winter.
Far as game recommendations - I'm currently replaying the original Deus Ex.
It ran beautifully on my win98 box with a Mx5200 vc (iirc) and now it runs
equally beautifully on my winXP box with a geforce 8600 vc. I'm running
about in hong kong and having an absolute blast. I did have to tinker with
the mouse control speed (adjust it all the way down to '1') but once that
problem was solved, the game flys. And it's fun - and this time round,
thanks to a hint from someone on CISPGR 'my brother' still lives - he
wasn't killed by the MIB.
<grin>
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MJB
Mr. Tin's Miniature Painting Workshop:
http://web.newsguy.com/Mrtinsworkshop/
Oh yeah, that's right, he has 512MB RAM, ouch... OP do yourself a
favor and put 1GB in there! it's like $10 and you will definitely and
immediately see the difference!
> Oh yeah, that's right, he has 512MB RAM, ouch... OP do yourself a
> favor and put 1GB in there! it's like $10 and you will definitely and
> immediately see the difference!
Yup, he can probably get a couple Gb of RAM & a far better vidcard to
see him through another year or two for under US$200 I imagine.
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Nostromo
I have and I concur, it really was the best space hybrid I've ever
played. The sense of using big fuck off ships that could take a pounding
was fantastic. I've still got the CD's around here somewhere, I might
even give it another shot.
There was another hybrid type game that was out a while ago, Space Rogue
or something like that, I'll have to see if I can find it, I've got a
hankering for space genre games atm.
>> I must check out the Spiderweb Software games you mentioned though, I'm
>> playing the Eschalon Book 1 demo on my laptop atm (Acer Aspire mini one)
>> and while I'm enjoying it it's not that great. I still want some small
>> indie games to play on the lappy though so I'll keep hunting.
>
> I didn't like Eschalon all that much (movement irked me & early combat/diff
> vs. reward was too steep imo - too slow going for my liking).
They are irritating me as well. So the spider software games are better
then? I'll have to go get the demo's, do you recommend Avernum or Geneforge?
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Ceo
I recommend it. It's a fantastic game if you can get over the quirks.
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Ceo
>> Hmmm, I didn't get that impression, but I think I ramped up my fighters
>> early on. Have you tried Nexus:The Jupiter Incident btw? Best space hybrid
>> (action/adventure/rts/rpg) I've played to date - it defies genre
>> classification really.
>
>I have and I concur, it really was the best space hybrid I've ever
>played. The sense of using big fuck off ships that could take a pounding
>was fantastic. I've still got the CD's around here somewhere, I might
>even give it another shot.
Heh, now I want to dust it off myself & give it another shot! I never
actually finished the game first time through (got about 2/3 of the way I
think...par for course for me ;).
>There was another hybrid type game that was out a while ago, Space Rogue
>or something like that, I'll have to see if I can find it, I've got a
>hankering for space genre games atm.
Saw that on sites but never played.
>>> I must check out the Spiderweb Software games you mentioned though, I'm
>>> playing the Eschalon Book 1 demo on my laptop atm (Acer Aspire mini one)
>>> and while I'm enjoying it it's not that great. I still want some small
>>> indie games to play on the lappy though so I'll keep hunting.
>>
>> I didn't like Eschalon all that much (movement irked me & early combat/diff
>> vs. reward was too steep imo - too slow going for my liking).
>
>They are irritating me as well. So the spider software games are better
>then? I'll have to go get the demo's, do you recommend Avernum or Geneforge?
I'd start with the latest Avernum demo. The backstory is just cutesy fluff
anyway. It's party turn-based in combat) & very retro, but quite detailed &
extensive in scope. You get 1/4 of the game in the demo roughly.
Geneforge has just had a new installment come out (which I haven't tried
yet) - that series is more single player/char (with NPCs & pets rounding out
the party), but with a genetics/mutation/shapeshifting/summoning fantasy
bent (with a sprinkle of sci-fi). You've only got more of your time to lose!
;)
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Nostromo
Get both; the demos are free and are almost 1/4 of the games. If you
like that you'll like the whole thing.
--------
Thanks to everyone for the great sugestions, I will track down some of these
and give them a try. Much appreciated.
Divine Divinity: Mostly a really good game, but many reviewers describe it
as Diablo like. At times it is pretty heavy in combat. The starting
dungeon is boring, but after that game gets much better. Too bad the
ending was rushed.
Neverwinter Nights: If you haven't yet tried there are plenty of very good
mods at nwvault:
http://nwvault.ign.com/fms/TopRated.php?content=modules
Pay attention to descriptions and classifications. Bioware trilogy would
be probably classified as Hack&Slash heavy and at most medium roleplay. I
haven't tried many mods yet, but I really liked Caereena - Krakona Rising
and Shadows of Darkmoon: Chapter 1. Unfortunately, some of the mods here are
quite picky about the patch version of the game, so remember check it
first.
I myself got NWN only a couple of years ago. I played Original
Campaign half way throught, got bored fighting goblins near the beginning
of the Shadows at Undrentire (however it was spelled) and played Hordes of
the Underdark straight thru.
I've also tried some modules from nwvault classified as having lighter
amount of combat and more roleplaying. For some reason
hoewever interesting the missions in those modules sound, they soon begin
to feel like running pointless errands. Im inclined to believe that this
is because NWN is, after all, a RPG combat engine and has very limited
support for other aspects of RPG. Since many of these modules have very
high ratings some people obviously have a different opinion.
Dungeon Siege: Dungeon Siege has fantastic remake mod of Ultima V called
Lazarus. I know a few people who purchased DS only to play this mod.
However, if you are not familiar with Ultima you probably miss some
nostalgic value and the learning curve may be a bit steep.
SpellForce: My computer is not new enought to play SF2, but I liked SF1
very much. It's an RTS, and I think the amount of RPG elements in it are a
bit exaggerated. However, what I liked most was the story and dialogue.
The story isn't fetched with spoon like most other games, and in fact you
will miss some of it if you don't really pay attention. For example,
there are some items which have no gameplay purpose. Many people thing
they are part of some unimplemented side quests or something. Actually
they are mentioned in some of the stories in the game, and those stories
have a couple of loose ends. You should be able to figure out these when
you think why the objects are where you find them. However, if you expect
a normal fetched-by-spoon story you'll propably completely miss these
clues. I know I did. Also, with only a couple of exceptions the dialogue
isn't childish bullshitting (like in Warcraft 3 for example), and the
main character lines don't make you want to kill him just because he acts
like a total idiot (like in WC3).
Zanzarah: Yeah, pretty much only combat like Nostromo said, but it has
some charm. Enought that I actually finished it.
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What sorcery, what spells, have brought thee here?
>Thus spake Ceowulf <non...@toknow.askifyoudo>, Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:43:44
>+0900, Anno Domini:
>>> Hmmm, I didn't get that impression, but I think I ramped up my fighters
>>> early on. Have you tried Nexus:The Jupiter Incident btw? Best space hybrid
>>> (action/adventure/rts/rpg) I've played to date - it defies genre
>>> classification really.
>>
>>I have and I concur, it really was the best space hybrid I've ever
>>played. The sense of using big fuck off ships that could take a pounding
>>was fantastic. I've still got the CD's around here somewhere, I might
>>even give it another shot.
>Heh, now I want to dust it off myself & give it another shot! I never
>actually finished the game first time through (got about 2/3 of the way I
>think...par for course for me ;).
Just be sure to patch it first to fix the notorious "whatever you select
the difficulty level reverts to easy" bug :)
It's just too bad they didn't do any rebalancing after fixing that, I
found fighters and bombers completely useless while playing on medium.
They were always wiped out before doing their job. I tried some missions
with figter/bomber strategies from walkthru, and with several tries they
did at most 50% damage to target which walkthru advised to destroy with
them... Someone wrote somewhere that hard difficulty level has some
mission(s) nearly impossible, possible only with heavy abuse of AI
weaknesses and tedious war of attrition taking advantage of Angelwings
regeneration abilities. There seem to be some mods out there, I haven't
tried any of them, but maybe they fix some of these issues.
Agree 99.99% with all of that Matti! ;)
>Zanzarah: Yeah, pretty much only combat like Nostromo said, but it has
>some charm. Enought that I actually finished it.
Whoa! Another fairy fighter out there - I'm not the only freak, I'm not
alone, YAY! <G>
(and a better one at that - I only finished about half to 2/3 of the game
myself, as is typical for me *sigh*)
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Nostromo
Hehehe, about a year ago when I mentioned that I had played Zanzarah,
you replied, and I quote -
Another person who isn't ashamed to admit they played Zanzarah -
wonder will
never cease! ;)
:)
Bloody hell, so they sold 3 copies in the end!? ;)
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Nostromo
Four copies, actually. But then again, I played and liked this tabletop
game too...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_Meat
MJB skrev:
> "Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
> news:7jvin4h0gtenjalpq...@4ax.com...
>>> Hehehe, about a year ago when I mentioned that I had played Zanzarah,
>>> you replied, and I quote -
>>>
>>> Another person who isn't ashamed to admit they played Zanzarah -
>>> wonder will
>>> never cease! ;)
>>>
>>> :)
>> Bloody hell, so they sold 3 copies in the end!? ;)
>>
>> --
>> Nostromo
>
> Four copies, actually. But then again, I played and liked this tabletop
> game too...
>
5. But I haven't inhaled... eh .... played it.
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>
>"Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
>news:7jvin4h0gtenjalpq...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>Hehehe, about a year ago when I mentioned that I had played Zanzarah,
>>>you replied, and I quote -
>>>
>>>Another person who isn't ashamed to admit they played Zanzarah -
>>>wonder will
>>>never cease! ;)
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>> Bloody hell, so they sold 3 copies in the end!? ;)
>>
>> --
>> Nostromo
>
>Four copies, actually. But then again, I played and liked this tabletop
>game too...
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_Meat
He, he, I did take a look at that a while back, but declined to have a go as
I just wasn't sure I could look in the mirror & respect myself in the
morning >;-)
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Nostromo
Well I'll be smeared with fairy floss & farked with a fairy funstick! Looks
like there's a greater market for the over 30s fairy lovas out there than
anyone thought lol! >8^D
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Nostromo
>>Well I'll be smeared with fairy floss & farked with a fairy funstick! Looks
>>like there's a greater market for the over 30s fairy lovas out there than
>>anyone thought lol! >8^D
>
>I just downloaded the demo. ^__^
Oh dear...:-/
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Nostromo
Fallout (the original ones not FO3). There's a budget pack called "the
fallout collection" that contains FO1, FO2, and FO tactics. It's turn
based, gun toting goodness (well tactics is a hybrid).
You might also want to look out for Jagged Alliance - it's not an RPG
but it does have nice turn based tactical combat.
The game to look for in the JA series is Jagged Alliance 2: Unfinished
Business, which is a tactical campaign and full of dark humor, weirdness,
and tactical squad-based shoot-'em-up.
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