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Hosun Specious Lee

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Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
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It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It lowers
your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams. That's right.

I just walked up to the Elder Eye with my lone Ranger (everyone stood away
to marvel) and whacked him a couple times, turning all his attacks back on
him.

And the five Beholders who attack you earlier on? Feh. It's not even funny
how easy it is to kill a Beholder with this shield. And it has a COOL
spell effect too. You're surrounded by a glowing white disc around your
feet.

Everyone should get this shield. Most of my party doesn't even use a
shield (except for Jaheira) because of dual wield or two handed weapons,
but I keep this on my ranger just in case.

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Dranith

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Hosun Specious Lee wrote...

>It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It
>lowers your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams.
>That's right.

Skip the shield and find the Cloak of Mirroring. You get to keep
the strength point, _and_ it reflects _almost_ all the beholder
attacks.

Petrified beholders make nice household statuary. ;-)

Dran
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not, but make no mistake -- killin' *is* gon' git done." J.E. Sawyer (BIS)

Hosun Specious Lee

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Dranith <dra...@velvet.net> writes:
: Hosun Specious Lee wrote...

: >It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It
: >lowers your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams.
: >That's right.

: Skip the shield and find the Cloak of Mirroring. You get to keep
: the strength point, _and_ it reflects _almost_ all the beholder
: attacks.

: Petrified beholders make nice household statuary. ;-)

But that's later in the game, correct? I'm in chapter 2 now. I thought the
cloak was somewhere in ch 4?

It sounds cooler though.

Jason McCullough

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Oct 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/9/00
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In article <OWpE5.6883$D81.2...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,

"Dranith" <dra...@velvet.net> wrote:
> Hosun Specious Lee wrote...
>
> >It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It
> >lowers your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams.
> >That's right.
>
> Skip the shield and find the Cloak of Mirroring. You get to keep
> the strength point, _and_ it reflects _almost_ all the beholder
> attacks.
>
> Petrified beholders make nice household statuary. ;-)
>
> Dran

You don't get any xp for killing petrified beholders, though. I went
back through the *spoiler* beholder map once I'd cleared it out,
casting stone to flesh on the beholders scattered around. I want my
14k xp, dang it.

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Dranith

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Oct 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/11/00
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Hosun Specious Lee...

>:Skip the shield and find the Cloak of Mirroring. You get to keep


>:the strength point, _and_ it reflects _almost_ all the beholder
>:attacks.
>
>:Petrified beholders make nice household statuary. ;-)
>

>But that's later in the game, correct?

Dunno. I was so focused on getting Imoen back, I wasn't paying
attention to where I was finding things.

>I'm in chapter 2 now. I thought the cloak was somewhere in ch 4?

Maybe. I'm really not sure. I waited to do about half the Ch. 2
quests until after I'd retrieved Imoen, so my game's been pretty
jumbled.

For example, I'd finally reached the elven city a couple nights
ago, but left so I could do the Xzar, Twisted Rune, and Kangaxx
quests first.

>It sounds cooler though.

It's great. It reflects offensive damaging single-target spells
by design, so mages and other enemies with spellcasting abilities
generally end up doing more damage to themselves than to my PC.

Gauths are a pushover, too. All they do is shoot electrical
blasts, which're reflected, so I just stand there and let them
kill themselves (and anything (read: other guaths and beholders)
else in the line of fire).

Get yourself something to block charm/domination spells and
stunning attacks, and you've got the perfect tank. :D

Dranith

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Jason McCullough wrote...

>>Petrified beholders make nice household statuary. ;-)
>

>You don't get any xp for killing petrified beholders, though. I
>went back through the *spoiler* beholder map once I'd cleared it out,

The first or second map?

>casting stone to flesh on the beholders scattered around. I want my
>14k xp, dang it.

By the end of the game, it doesn't matter. Stupid xp cap. I
maxed out everyone except the last character I picked up by the
beginning of Ch. 7, even with the xp lost on destroying the
stone beholders.

They really should lift the cap at least a million or so. I
went to a lot of trouble to get some 8th and 9th level spells
memorized by Imoen and Aerie, and I'll never be able to use
any of them. :-(

Christopher Tong

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Hong Ooi wrote:


>
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:55:39 GMT, "Dranith" <dra...@velvet.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >For example, I'd finally reached the elven city a couple nights
> >ago, but left so I could do the Xzar, Twisted Rune, and Kangaxx
> >quests first.
>

> Um, spoil me, please. How do you go about getting those last two quests?

The Twisted Rune is a house in the Bridge district. It's not a true
quest per se. You must have a rogue stone when you go in there. I was
exploring the bridge district with a party of level 10/11 characters
when I went there, heady from successfully running an errand for the
Shadow Thieves. It's quite a nasty fight, but you do get some great
goodies, including a Staff of the Magi, which let's you cast a
Lightning/Fireball 3 times a day among other things.

You get the Kangaxx quest in the Docks district... go to the house to
the west of Mae'var's kip, kill the minotaurs then get the quest from
Kangaxx.

Chris

Hong Ooi

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Oct 11, 2000, 5:58:05 PM10/11/00
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:19:11 GMT, Jason McCullough
<karlma...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>
>You don't get any xp for killing petrified beholders, though. I went
>back through the *spoiler* beholder map once I'd cleared it out,

>casting stone to flesh on the beholders scattered around. I want my
>14k xp, dang it.

You do get the xp, however it's at the point when the beholder gets
petrified, not when you smash it.


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Hong Ooi

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Oct 11, 2000, 6:01:27 PM10/11/00
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:55:39 GMT, "Dranith" <dra...@velvet.net> wrote:

>
>For example, I'd finally reached the elven city a couple nights
>ago, but left so I could do the Xzar, Twisted Rune, and Kangaxx
>quests first.

Um, spoil me, please. How do you go about getting those last two quests?

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Tangerine

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On 9 Oct 2000 20:15:08 GMT, Hosun Specious Lee <ho...@primenet.com>
wrote:

>It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It lowers
>your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams. That's right.

If you don't have the bonus CD, then you can achieve the same thing
with the Cloak of Mirroring (without the strength loss or taking up
one hand with a shield). I had to laugh when I walked through the
beholder den in the Underdark with a single character and wiped out
the entire population of Gauths, Beholders, and Elder Orbs without
once raising a weapon. ^_^

Drew

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Where do you get said cloak? =p
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Tal'n Lazarus

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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I laughed too. Until one of the Elder Orbs cast Imprison on me.
That put a damper on things...

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Tangerine

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:44:55 GMT, "Drew" <awe...@ee.net> wrote:

>Where do you get said cloak? =p

I couldn't recall offhand, but a quick search indicates that it
probably appears in the Underwater City. The cloak is possibly the
best item in the game (not including the twinky bonus gear),
reflecting all damage-based magic back at the caster.

One of the more interesting situations I experienced was dealing with
a mage who had a reflection spell on, and cast a Death spell at me.
The magic bounced back and forth between our shields until his
protection failed and he killed himself. ^_^

Tangerine

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:53:51 -0700, "Tal'n Lazarus"
<taln...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:

>I laughed too. Until one of the Elder Orbs cast Imprison on me.
>That put a damper on things...

Mm-hmm. The one thing about the beholder-types that bugs me more than
anything else is that they can cast touch-range spells from a
distance, and in the case of an unavoidable, basically unreversible
spell like Imprisonment, it can be a little ridiculous.

Quatoria

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In the swirling mists of history, on Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:16:02 GMT,
nob...@home.anymore (Tangerine) wrote:

>Mm-hmm. The one thing about the beholder-types that bugs me more than
>anything else is that they can cast touch-range spells from a
>distance, and in the case of an unavoidable, basically unreversible
>spell like Imprisonment, it can be a little ridiculous.

Unfortunately, any NPC with imprisonment can cast it from range, with
no saving throw, and even if your magic resistance saves you, you
still have to reload the game. It's an instant game-ender if it's even
*cast* at you, whether or not it works. Nice, huh?

-Quatoria
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faith does not prove anything.
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Tangerine

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On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:50:50 GMT, Quatoria
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>Unfortunately, any NPC with imprisonment can cast it from range, with
>no saving throw, and even if your magic resistance saves you, you
>still have to reload the game. It's an instant game-ender if it's even
>*cast* at you, whether or not it works. Nice, huh?

Mm-hmm, though as I recall the only times I came up against this spell
were when I was fighting the eyes, and Kangaxx (the most ridiculously
cheap enemy in the game). Spell Immunity, as far as I know, is the
only defense against Imprisonment, but that is a caster-based spell,
so if your main character isn't a mage, you're totally screwed.

Hosun Specious Lee

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Tangerine <nob...@home.anymore> writes:
: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:50:50 GMT, Quatoria
: <quat...@NOSPAMbellsouth.net> wrote:

Protection from magic scrolls will do it. Complete protection on any
character from all magic.

Drew

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"Tangerine" <nob...@home.anymore> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:53:51 -0700, "Tal'n Lazarus"
> <taln...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I laughed too. Until one of the Elder Orbs cast Imprison on me.
> >That put a damper on things...
>
> Mm-hmm. The one thing about the beholder-types that bugs me more than
> anything else is that they can cast touch-range spells from a
> distance, and in the case of an unavoidable, basically unreversible
> spell like Imprisonment, it can be a little ridiculous.

They can chain cast too like instantly, I walked into a room with a few
gauths and it looked like I was playing gradius with all the stuff flying at
me.

-Drew

Wesley Martin

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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hehe i rmemeber now

i was in vamp domain and i got MAZE cast on my characters

since for some reason they FORGOT to think that HELD characters means u cant
control them u can sleep when held

so i did

you sleep for 54 days and four hours

ROFL

dumb bitch couldnt find her way in 54 days


dogi

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> > > >It's the one you get from the bonus disc, Shield of Balduran. It
lowers
> > > >your strength by one, BUT it reflects *ALL* Beholder beams. That's
>>>>> right

Allright, I got the bonus CD, could someone now tell how it is used :)
So if there愀 that extrastuff, how do I get it in the game.
And when I扉e "installed" the bonus CD, where do I find that shield?

-dogi-.


Aaron D. Fuegi

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Tangerine (nob...@home.anymore) wrote:
: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:50:50 GMT, Quatoria
: <quat...@NOSPAMbellsouth.net> wrote:

: >Unfortunately, any NPC with imprisonment can cast it from range, with
: >no saving throw, and even if your magic resistance saves you, you
: >still have to reload the game. It's an instant game-ender if it's even
: >*cast* at you, whether or not it works. Nice, huh?

: Mm-hmm, though as I recall the only times I came up against this spell
: were when I was fighting the eyes, and Kangaxx (the most ridiculously
: cheap enemy in the game). Spell Immunity, as far as I know, is the
: only defense against Imprisonment, but that is a caster-based spell,
: so if your main character isn't a mage, you're totally screwed.

The Berserker Kit's berserk ability also protects against it.
I just yesterday had the same problem with the Elder Orb with my main
character so I switched the good equipment to my Berserker (in my 4 my
characters Party for just this reason - the immunities granted by the
Berserk state) and had him take care of it. Very nice ability for the
mega-fights.

Aaron

Seifer

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that's one of the reasons you keep minsc in the group, he goes ape shit when
you zerk him\

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Matt Holmes

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Huh?

Wesley Martin wrote:

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Matt Holmes

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The extra items are sold by a new lady in the Adventurer's Mart.

- m.h.

dogi wrote:

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Wesley Martin

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ive got the EB cd and i dont see ay extra lady
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Tal'n Lazarus

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Wesley Martin <Mal...@ultima-online.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> ive got the EB cd and i dont see ay extra lady
> Matt Holmes <wu...@wubbo.com> wrote in message
> news:39F05A60...@wubbo.com...
> > The extra items are sold by a new lady in the Adventurer's Mart.
> >
> > - m.h.
> >
> > dogi wrote:
> >

Well..if you installed the bonus CD before you even played the game, you
can't tell if there's an extra lady can you?
Her name's Deidre.

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