* You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
already full.
* You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the local
software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned it
at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
* You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
packs.
* You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
someone already stole the ID number.
* You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
* You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple times
because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
* You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
* You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on the
market at this time.
* You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
enough, because its price dropped.
* You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or another
computer game retailer) just about every day.
* You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you know
full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
* You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
newsgroup.
* You complain that computer games aren't what they used to be, buy you still
keep buying more.
* The frequent buyer card actually ends up costing you more money than it is
worth, because the one day 10% off sales make you buy games when you are not
interested at that time.
Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
=). - Richard Hutnik
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$40, but who's counting. And it's six bookcases, but in fairness I have lots
of real books too. Of course, the CD's themselves are store on six 150 count
CD racks.
> * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the local
> software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned it
> at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
Close again, but I decide to buy it because it's cheap and there's always
someone who likes getting a free game if I already have a copy.
> * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
> packs.
HA! I got rid of all of those two weeks ago. All thirty-eight of them...
> * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
> bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
> someone already stole the ID number.
Feh, who cares about net play...
> * You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
Who doesn't?
> * You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple times
> because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
No, but I did keep forgetting which sequel was which with Crusader...
> * You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
That's my number one reason for buying any given computer game!
> * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
> resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
> performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
> 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on the
> market at this time.
Nope, the resource intensive stuff has too high of cost to fun return ratio.
Wait until it's average stuff and then it's worth it.
> * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
> enough, because its price dropped.
That's never happened just because I never return games.
> * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or another
> computer game retailer) just about every day.
Why? The second anything shows up someone's talking about it here.
> * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you know
> full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
Ah, but if they like it, then odds are it's worth trying (unless it's a sports
game).
> * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
> newsgroup.
How about replying and pointing out how inaccurate they are.
> * You complain that computer games aren't what they used to be, buy you still
> keep buying more.
That never happens. Of course, in my day computer games where raw gameplay
and no one would even think about saying something like that, but these
days it's "multiplayer" and that 3d crap. Bah! Who needs it! 4 colors is
enough for anyone I say!
> * The frequent buyer card actually ends up costing you more money than it is
> worth, because the one day 10% off sales make you buy games when you are not
> interested at that time.
>
> Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
> =). - Richard Hutnik
How about if the staff at the software stores knows you by name and knows
enough about your tastes that they make useful suggestions?
Joel Mathis
In article <7fnvhu$3u7$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
joelm...@geocities.com wrote:
> In article <7fn9s0$eie$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many games
> > (not in any order):
> >
> > * You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
> > already full.
> $40, but who's counting. And it's six bookcases, but in fairness I have lots
> of real books too. Of course, the CD's themselves are store on six 150 count
> CD racks.
It needs to be $60 because that is higher quality. In addition, the
bookshelves just have to be for games, no books.
> > * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the local
> > software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned it
> > at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
> Close again, but I decide to buy it because it's cheap and there's always
> someone who likes getting a free game if I already have a copy.
Well, again, you aren't true hardcore. Why would you BUY them a copy? You
just lend out your copy of the game and let them keep it until they are done
with it. Doing this clears up room on your shelves and scores brownie points
with people =)
> > * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
> > packs.
> HA! I got rid of all of those two weeks ago. All thirty-eight of them...
How did you untangle all the game bundles? =)
> > * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
> > bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
> > someone already stole the ID number.
> Feh, who cares about net play...
You rationalize that SOME DAY, you may want to play a human opponent over
the Net, even if you don't now.
> > * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
> > resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
> > performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
> > 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on
the
> > market at this time.
> Nope, the resource intensive stuff has too high of cost to fun return ratio.
> Wait until it's average stuff and then it's worth it.
What, when you upgrade to a top of line PC, you don't try to push it?
Grumph! You are not a real gamer then! Who said cost to fun return ratio
has anything to do with it? You just gotta be able to show off some cool
games to people and make them oooh, and ahh. Wait, I am confusing an
addicted gamer with an addicted PC hardware junkie, silly me!
> > * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
> > enough, because its price dropped.
> That's never happened just because I never return games.
How about one you sold off earlier? You mean you keep games, even if they
suck royally?
> > * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or
another
> > computer game retailer) just about every day.
> Why? The second anything shows up someone's talking about it here.
To remind you how soon it will appear at the store so you know when to go
over there and buy it!
> > * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you
know
> > full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
> Ah, but if they like it, then odds are it's worth trying (unless it's a sports
> game).
Yes! That IS the rationalization to use. Yes siree! =).
> > * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
> > newsgroup.
> How about replying and pointing out how inaccurate they are.
And then replying to the post that pointed out how inaccurate your initial
post was.
> How about if the staff at the software stores knows you by name and knows
> enough about your tastes that they make useful suggestions?
How about the staff as the local software store knows you so well that they
look to you to make suggestions on what THEY shall purchase =).
- Richard Hutnik
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I guess I need help!
I gave up on the boxes. Just too many of them. All of my games are now
in one big looseleaf binder, but I now need a new binder! I knew I
should have gotten a thicker one!
>* You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
>packs.
This is just so true for me. I have two copies of several games
because of those bundle deals! I own four copies of wiz 7. I have the
original diskette version, the gold CD version and the wiz archives
which comes with both the original _and_ the CD Gold version! Four
copies! How did that happen?!? <g>
>* You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
If you include all of my Commodore 64 games that I still own, this may
very well be true!
>* You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple times
>because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
A real gamer wouldn't be able to part with his games in the first
place! :)
>* You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
I did that with SpaceWard Ho! Only $7.99 at CompUSA. I only went there
to buy a cable.
>* You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you know
>full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
Damn usenetters saying how wonderful X-COM is! I hate tactical squad
level games!! But I bought the game anyway! And I hate it! But get
this. I own two copies of X-COM!! Why? Those damn bundle deals! What
turn based strategy gamer was not even in the least bit excited at the
Conquer the Universe package?!? MOO, MOM and X-COM together.
>Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
>=). - Richard Hutnik
A very funny post. It really hit home. I play too many games.
richar...@hotmail.com wrote in message
<7fn9s0$eie$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many
games
>(not in any order):
>
>* You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
>already full.
>
>* You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the
local
>software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned
it
>at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
>
>* You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
>packs.
>
>* You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
>bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
>someone already stole the ID number.
>
>* You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
>
>* You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple
times
>because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
>
>* You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
>
>* You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
>resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
>performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
>4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on
the
>market at this time.
>
>* You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
>enough, because its price dropped.
>
>* You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or
another
>computer game retailer) just about every day.
>
>* You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you
know
>full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
>
>* You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
>newsgroup.
>
>* You complain that computer games aren't what they used to be, buy you
still
>keep buying more.
>
>* The frequent buyer card actually ends up costing you more money than it
is
>worth, because the one day 10% off sales make you buy games when you are
not
>interested at that time.
>
>Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help
immediately
>=). - Richard Hutnik
>
I find it questionable that the shelves you purchase for $60 are much more
high quality than my $40 ones. Six and a half feet tall with six shelves
each, composed of that "durable" material stuff like computer desks are
made out of. I think you need to spend around twice or three times what
we're spending before you get into shelves of decent quality.
And I only have one set of shelves full of actual computer game stuff, but
then I just pack old manuals in sturdy game boxes to save space. That's
still quite a few manuals. I personally like having easy access to my
collection on the CD rack.
> > > * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the
> > > local software store because you don't remember if you already own it,
> > > or owned it at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always
> > > return it.
> > Close again, but I decide to buy it because it's cheap and there's always
> > someone who likes getting a free game if I already have a copy.
>
> Well, again, you aren't true hardcore. Why would you BUY them a copy? You
> just lend out your copy of the game and let them keep it until they are done
> with it. Doing this clears up room on your shelves and scores brownie points
> with people =)
Ah, but these are games I already own so giving games away scores bigger
brownie points. I can't count the number of times I got major repairs done
on my car through a relative I keep feeding like this.
> > > * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought
> > > bundle packs.
> >
> > HA! I got rid of all of those two weeks ago. All thirty-eight of them...
>
> How did you untangle all the game bundles? =)
I kept the copies that were on CD's with other things and gave away the copy
that was just on a CD by itself.
Of course, I kept the docs for everything. My generosity only goes so far.
> > > * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one
> > > you bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from
> > > Europe and someone already stole the ID number.
> >
> > Feh, who cares about net play...
>
> You rationalize that SOME DAY, you may want to play a human opponent over
> the Net, even if you don't now.
Okay, I've done that (rationalize that someday I might want to play a game
against another person so that package is a really good deal, that is).
> > > * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly
on
> > > resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
> > > performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
> > > 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on
> the
> > > market at this time.
> > Nope, the resource intensive stuff has too high of cost to fun return ratio.
> > Wait until it's average stuff and then it's worth it.
>
> What, when you upgrade to a top of line PC, you don't try to push it?
> Grumph! You are not a real gamer then! Who said cost to fun return ratio
> has anything to do with it? You just gotta be able to show off some cool
> games to people and make them oooh, and ahh. Wait, I am confusing an
> addicted gamer with an addicted PC hardware junkie, silly me!
It's understandable, there's certainly enough cross-overs between the two.
> > > * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but
> > > not enough, because its price dropped.
> > That's never happened just because I never return games.
> How about one you sold off earlier? You mean you keep games, even if they
> suck royally?
Yep. I have a special section in my collection dedicated to the worst games
of all time. Descent to Undermountain, Outpost 1.0 (with the docs for
non-existant features), and the original Battlecruiser all proudly stand
in that section.
And I never sell off games either. I only get rid of a game if I have
multiple copies of it and of course I keep one for myself.
> > > * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or
> > > another computer game retailer) just about every day.
> > Why? The second anything shows up someone's talking about it here.
> To remind you how soon it will appear at the store so you know when to go
> over there and buy it!
Ah, but I am far too cheap to do that. I wait patiently until a game's
price falls far enough that I am willing to risk a purchase.
> > > * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you
> > > know full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to
> > > you.
> >
> > Ah, but if they like it, then odds are it's worth trying (unless it's a
> > sports game).
>
> Yes! That IS the rationalization to use. Yes siree! =).
Yeah, but I have the built in protection of being cheap as hell. People
talking about a game will raise the price that I'll risk trying it by as
much as ten dollars, but I still wouldn't try, say, Starcraft until it's
dirt cheap.
> > > * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on
> > > a newsgroup.
> > How about replying and pointing out how inaccurate they are.
> And then replying to the post that pointed out how inaccurate your initial
> post was.
Or continuing a small cascade about how inaccurate it all is.
> > How about if the staff at the software stores knows you by name and knows
> > enough about your tastes that they make useful suggestions?
>
> How about the staff as the local software store knows you so well that they
> look to you to make suggestions on what THEY shall purchase =).
Had that happen too.
Joel Mathis
>Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many games
>(not in any order):
It's nice to see Jeff Foxworthy has found some new material :)
Jon S
Well, a sign you are REALLY sick is that the bookcase contains just CDs and
docs. I know one person who USED to store the boxes elsewhere, and put the
games and docs in an envelope. He went back to putting them in the box
because he couldn't find what game he was looking for. I found I would lose
the boxes if I didn't keep the games in them.
> >* You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple
times
> >because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
> A real gamer wouldn't be able to part with his games in the first
> place! :)
Well, in my case, there were some games that just were not good enough for
my tastes at the time I purchased them. OR, they didn't work on my machine.
> >* You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you
know
> >full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
> Damn usenetters saying how wonderful X-COM is! I hate tactical squad
> level games!! But I bought the game anyway! And I hate it! But get
> this. I own two copies of X-COM!! Why? Those damn bundle deals! What
> turn based strategy gamer was not even in the least bit excited at the
> Conquer the Universe package?!? MOO, MOM and X-COM together.
It even gets worse when there is a special bundle deal of MULTIPLE games
you don't want to play. I spent $3 on a 6 game bundle of Gametek stuff. I
guess I got it for Hell, because it interested me eons ago. It had
"wonderful" stuff such as Brutal, Frontier Elite II, and Cyberbykes. In the
case of X-Com, I got X-Com 3 due to all the raving. I never did get into the
original at all. I found SOME tactical combat games I handle, if they are
not to complex. (Incubation is one. It is also a game I bought and returned
due to a lack of an editor, and bought again when the price dropped and it
came with an editor. I will likely NEVER use the editor). I think Jagged
Alliance is another title I bought based on the ravings of people. I fiddled
with it a bit, and then never played it again.
> >=). - Richard Hutnik
> A very funny post. It really hit home. I play too many games.
At least you aren't "The king" I read on here a few months ago, who made me
feel unworthy, and I am glad. =).
- Richard Hutnik
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>Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
You endlessly crosspost all your messages. :)
--
Andy_Moore
email: andym<at>midsouth.rr.com
replace <at> with @
That's the best indicator in your list. I think many
here might qualify.
Also:
You buy, install, load and play less than 1/2
hour before moving on to the next game;
or
You start complaining about cloning of clones;
or
You have at least 20 games on which you've spent
less than 10 hours combined.
RayO
>In article <7fo5r5$9uh$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Ok, time to correct a few trhings...
>>
>> In article <7fnvhu$3u7$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
>> joelm...@geocities.com wrote:
>> > In article <7fn9s0$eie$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
>> > richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many
>games
>> > > (not in any order):
>> > >
>> > > * You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
>> > > already full.
>> > $40, but who's counting. And it's six bookcases, but in fairness I have
>> > lots of real books too. Of course, the CD's themselves are store on six
>> > 150 count CD racks.
>> It needs to be $60 because that is higher quality. In addition, the
>> bookshelves just have to be for games, no books.
>
>And I only have one set of shelves full of actual computer game stuff, but
>then I just pack old manuals in sturdy game boxes to save space. That's
>still quite a few manuals. I personally like having easy access to my
>collection on the CD rack.
>
I have an empty closet that I use because I have a hope that sometime
some of the old boxes will be worth something.
>> > > * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the
>> > > local software store because you don't remember if you already own it,
>> > > or owned it at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always
>> > > return it.
>> > Close again, but I decide to buy it because it's cheap and there's always
>> > someone who likes getting a free game if I already have a copy.
>>
>> Well, again, you aren't true hardcore. Why would you BUY them a copy? You
>> just lend out your copy of the game and let them keep it until they are done
>> with it. Doing this clears up room on your shelves and scores brownie points
>> with people =)
>
>Ah, but these are games I already own so giving games away scores bigger
>brownie points. I can't count the number of times I got major repairs done
>on my car through a relative I keep feeding like this.
>
I must not be hardcore then, I know exactly what software I own. I
think<g>.
>
>> > > * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought
>> > > bundle packs.
>> >
>> > HA! I got rid of all of those two weeks ago. All thirty-eight of them...
>>
>> How did you untangle all the game bundles? =)
>
>I kept the copies that were on CD's with other things and gave away the copy
>that was just on a CD by itself.
>
>Of course, I kept the docs for everything. My generosity only goes so far.
>
I have more than 2 of several titles.<g>
>
>> > > * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one
>> > > you bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from
>> > > Europe and someone already stole the ID number.
>> >
>> > Feh, who cares about net play...
>>
>> You rationalize that SOME DAY, you may want to play a human opponent over
>> the Net, even if you don't now.
>
>Okay, I've done that (rationalize that someday I might want to play a game
>against another person so that package is a really good deal, that is).
>
I have rationalized that the AI may bite, but maybe I'll do net-play,
and anyway they may patch it, and it's so purty, and it's a neat idea.
>
>> > > * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly
>on
>> > > resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
>> > > performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
>> > > 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on
>> the
>> > > market at this time.
Sadly enough, I went looking for that title when it was on sale.<g> I
have no real interst on flight simulators, but it was cheap.
>> > Nope, the resource intensive stuff has too high of cost to fun return ratio.
>> > Wait until it's average stuff and then it's worth it.
>>
>> What, when you upgrade to a top of line PC, you don't try to push it?
>> Grumph! You are not a real gamer then! Who said cost to fun return ratio
>> has anything to do with it? You just gotta be able to show off some cool
>> games to people and make them oooh, and ahh. Wait, I am confusing an
>> addicted gamer with an addicted PC hardware junkie, silly me!
>
>It's understandable, there's certainly enough cross-overs between the two.
>
Hey, wait a minute!!! I just upgraded from a 486/66 to a K-2/350.
Don't try to tell me that I just because I bought a bunch of games
that I never would have considered (CIV:CTP, LOL3, AOE, Myth II) makes
me a PC hardware junkie too! I'll play all of them, honest. It was
just weakness because of that long dry spell.<g>
>
>> > > * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but
>> > > not enough, because its price dropped.
>> > That's never happened just because I never return games.
>> How about one you sold off earlier? You mean you keep games, even if they
>> suck royally?
>
>Yep. I have a special section in my collection dedicated to the worst games
>of all time. Descent to Undermountain, Outpost 1.0 (with the docs for
>non-existant features), and the original Battlecruiser all proudly stand
>in that section.
>
Don't you have Outpost 1.5 also? I've got the same section.
As well as the section of great games that are just too out-dated to
try to play.
>
>And I never sell off games either. I only get rid of a game if I have
>multiple copies of it and of course I keep one for myself.
>
>> > > * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or
>> > > another computer game retailer) just about every day.
>> > Why? The second anything shows up someone's talking about it here.
Because there a number of good games that don't really get discussed
here. HOMM3 for example.
>> To remind you how soon it will appear at the store so you know when to go
>> over there and buy it!
>Ah, but I am far too cheap to do that. I wait patiently until a game's
>price falls far enough that I am willing to risk a purchase.
>
Falling by 10 bucks should be enough though, right?<g>
>
>> > > * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you
>> > > know full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to
>> > > you.
>> >
>> > Ah, but if they like it, then odds are it's worth trying (unless it's a
>> > sports game).
>>
>> Yes! That IS the rationalization to use. Yes siree! =).
>
>Yeah, but I have the built in protection of being cheap as hell. People
>talking about a game will raise the price that I'll risk trying it by as
>much as ten dollars, but I still wouldn't try, say, Starcraft until it's
>dirt cheap.
>
I don't have that protection, unfortunately. I'm learning, though.
>
>> > > * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on
>> > > a newsgroup.
>> > How about replying and pointing out how inaccurate they are.
>> And then replying to the post that pointed out how inaccurate your initial
>> post was.
>
>Or continuing a small cascade about how inaccurate it all is.
>
Or how accurate parts of it are.
>> > How about if the staff at the software stores knows you by name and knows
>> > enough about your tastes that they make useful suggestions?
>>
>> How about the staff as the local software store knows you so well that they
>> look to you to make suggestions on what THEY shall purchase =).
>
>Had that happen too.
>
I spread my purchases out enough so that that's not an issue. There's
a best buy, compusa and media play here close to work that I visit
every Wednesday for lunch.
You missed the item about compulsively buying collections of old games
because you might want to play one of them. Although I'm actually
replaying the Infocom games now, they're probably the only bundled
game that I've played much of.
Ralph
--
Ralph Trickey <Ralph....@BigFoot.Com.RemoveToEmail>
>In article <7fn9s0$eie$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many games
>> (not in any order):
>>
>> * You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
>> already full.
>
>$40, but who's counting. And it's six bookcases, but in fairness I have lots
>of real books too. Of course, the CD's themselves are store on six 150 count
>CD racks.
Yeah, the stack of games overflowed the bookcase, and now takes up a
space larger than my car. This after I sent about 50 to my brother,
gave away about 20 and threw out about 75 boxes. This doesnt even
count all the shareware stuff I've got.
>
>> * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the local
>> software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned it
>> at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
I keep most stuff, the only things Ive returned were BC3000, and Mech
Commander because I was tired of being screwed over by FASA.
>
>Close again, but I decide to buy it because it's cheap and there's always
>someone who likes getting a free game if I already have a copy.
>
>> * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
>> packs.
>
>HA! I got rid of all of those two weeks ago. All thirty-eight of them...
Keep some and give a few away-got some credit on getting my house
painted.
>
>> * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
>> bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
>> someone already stole the ID number.
Anybody else get conned into buying the "Gold"versiion of a game
because it hit the bargain bin(even tho you had the original version
and couldnt stand it)?
>
>Feh, who cares about net play...
Less than 1% that buy a game play it multi, but it consumes as much as
half the development budget.
>
>> * You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
>
>Who doesn't?
In strategy games it isnt hard-98 was the worst time for strategy
releases since 95-at that time I thought about giving up the hobby.
>
>> * You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple times
>> because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
>
>No, but I did keep forgetting which sequel was which with Crusader...
>
>> * You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
Ive done this but I'm gradually getting to the point that my time is
limited(family, job, etc...) even if I can afford all the games I want
I'll never get around to playing the good titles, let alone the
marginal ones.
>
>That's my number one reason for buying any given computer game!
>
>> * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
>> resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
>> performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
>> 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on the
>> market at this time.
I dont go out of the strat genre but I'm bringing out all those
resource hogs I shelfed now that I have a better system.
>
>Nope, the resource intensive stuff has too high of cost to fun return ratio.
>Wait until it's average stuff and then it's worth it.
Its remarkable that games that took 100k to develop 5 years ago are a
lot more fun than games that took 10 million to develp this year.
>
>> * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
>> enough, because its price dropped.
>
>That's never happened just because I never return games.
>
>> * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or another
>> computer game retailer) just about every day.
Yep, do this even after I just bought a game.
>
>Why? The second anything shows up someone's talking about it here.
Not always, major releases, but even then its a couple days late.
>
>> * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you know
>> full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
I've found that if a lot of people are talking about it, it may be a
good investment. Ceaser 3 isnt my usual type of game but I bought it
based on all the talk here and rather liked it even if I didnt play it
till 3 AM like something from my core interest.
>
>Ah, but if they like it, then odds are it's worth trying (unless it's a sports
>game).
>
>> * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
>> newsgroup.
>
>How about replying and pointing out how inaccurate they are.
>
>> * You complain that computer games aren't what they used to be, buy you still
>> keep buying more.
Three years ago, I almost quit gaming the releases got so bad and so
few. I also like to see new things, I've played WW2 to death.
>
>That never happens. Of course, in my day computer games where raw gameplay
>and no one would even think about saying something like that, but these
>days it's "multiplayer" and that 3d crap. Bah! Who needs it! 4 colors is
>enough for anyone I say!
No matter what anyone says, the multiplayer and 3d take up 90% of the
games budgets so even tho game development costs have increased 1000%,
games arent that much better. Because graphics can be so spectacular
these days theres a tendency to rely on it to carry the game and
multi-player is the excuse for terrible ai.
>
>> * The frequent buyer card actually ends up costing you more money than it is
>> worth, because the one day 10% off sales make you buy games when you are not
>> interested at that time.
EB did away with their program as they couldnt make money on it.
>>
>> Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
>> =). - Richard Hutnik
>
>How about if the staff at the software stores knows you by name and knows
>enough about your tastes that they make useful suggestions?
Most of the EB staff recognize my voice on the phone and call me by
name without having to identify myself (Im embarassed to say I only
know the name of one of them).
>
>Joel Mathis
Jeff Foxworthy? Who's that?
> Jon S
>
>
1. What is the maximum price you'll pay for a game you've been
waiting to buy based on previews or reviews?
2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
but like the back of the box?
3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
any game you would remotely be interested in?
4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
Oh, uh, divide questions 1 - 3 up between "new" and "used"
(new meaning original game in shrink, not just released).
My answers (US Currency):
NEW USED (or OEM, repackaged, etc)
1. $50 1. $25
2. $35 2. n/a (I don't buy used if I never heard of it)
3. $15 3. $10
4. 25%
Ok, the above is the "minumum" answer questionaire, and below is
optional stuff.
Extra Credit:
Give the percentage of games in each of the following category.
It was FREE!
Bought it Used
Bought it Bargain Bin
Bought it On Sale
Bought it Full Price
Here's mine (rough estimates):
3% It was FREE! (gift, review copy, prize, whatever)
25% Bought it Used
27% Bought it Bargain Bin
35% Bought it On Sale
10% Bought it Full Price
Extra Credit 2:
Take your nifty keen breakdown of cost per game percentages, and
rank each in terms of price/play-hours. For example, if you owned,
say, 100 bargain bin games, and you played them say, 50 hours, that
makes that category a 1/2 ratio. Do this for each category, then rank.
Or just give the hrs/games if that's easier.
Here's mine...
10/1 FREE!
20/1 Used
5/1 Bargain Bin
20/1 Sale
30/1 Full Price
Now you should be able to multiply your ratio with your percentages
above to determine where you get the most bang for your buck. Eliminate
the methods of purchase that you get low bang for buck, and you'll save
money, which you can use for more games in the more-bang-for-buck areas.
knight37
P.S. If you get stuck, type "K37KFA" cheat code for god mode.
P.P.S. Don't look at your neighbor's paper on the math part. Especially
you readers from csipga.
Gosh, I don't know. There are so many good games out there that I think
they have to be competetivley priced. $40 is probably the most I pay
these days.
> 2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> but like the back of the box?
I don't think I've ever bought a game on impulse. I ALWAYS play a demo
or read reviews. Pictures on the back of the box mean very little to
me, unless I am renting videogames or something.
>
> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> any game you would remotely be interested in?
As I said, a game going for $40 at EB with a $10 rebate is a good deal.
>
> 4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
None for PC games, maybe a couple for videogames.
>2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> but like the back of the box?
>
$5.
>3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> any game you would remotely be interested in?
>
$1-$5.
>4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
>
Out of the total games I buy? 90%.
I also make very little distinction between new and used. The only
times I buy new games are:
(1) when I want to directly reward the company that put out a cool,
unique game (e.g., Thief, Rollercoaster Tycoon), or
(2) if it's a gift
Knight37 wrote:
>
> For all you game addicts... you know who you are...
>
> 1. What is the maximum price you'll pay for a game you've been
> waiting to buy based on previews or reviews?
I think I spent $55-$10 rebate for Unreal. Lately, I haven't spent more
than $30. (And Rollercoaster Tycoon was $20! No way was I going to let
that low price go unrewarded! :)
Oh, and if a game is just the only possible choice for a gift (like
buying Heretic II for the guy who gave me Half-Life), I'll go $50.
Used: Theoretically, I would spend $30, since I don't see much
difference between new and used. In practice, I don't think I've ever
spent more than $22 or $25.
> 2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> but like the back of the box?
Zero? I don't think this could ever happen. To buy a total unknown on
a lark, it would have to be cheap! Cheap like renting a video! Maybe
$5. After all, it's not just the cost of buying the game, it's also the
time spent reading how to install, installing it, possibly having it
mess up my computer by trying to install an old version of QuickTime,
etc.
> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> any game you would remotely be interested in?
I think these questions imply a different buying style than mine. I
might be a music CD on a lark because "installing" it and "running" it
is 100% simple. For a game, there's more work involved than just
sticking it in the CD player to check it out.
I see a game as being more like a library book. There's TONS of them,
and whether they're free or not, no way am I going to spend the time to
check all of them out, even if I'm "remotely" interested in them.
On the other hand... $5?
> 4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
Does it count if I'm buying them for someone else? I'll say 65%.
> Extra Credit:
5% It was FREE! (gift, review copy, prize, whatever)
65% Bought it Used
0% Bought it Bargain Bin
30% Bought it On Sale OR Bought it Full Price
There's such a fine line between On Sale and Full Price. Rebates...
price-matching... price-lowering... too confusing.
> Extra Credit 2:
>
> Take your nifty keen breakdown of cost per game percentages, and
> rank each in terms of price/play-hours. For example, if you owned,
> say, 100 bargain bin games, and you played them say, 50 hours, that
> makes that category a 1/2 ratio. Do this for each category, then rank.
> Or just give the hrs/games if that's easier.
Oh, man, that's an awful lot of work. I'll just say that if I'm certain
enough to buy a game in a store, I'm probably going to get more play out
of it than some 4-year-old oddity I buy used because it's only $8.
> Now you should be able to multiply your ratio with your percentages
> above to determine where you get the most bang for your buck. Eliminate
> the methods of purchase that you get low bang for buck, and you'll save
> money, which you can use for more games in the more-bang-for-buck areas.
Hands down, the best bang for my buck is when I get a game I'm certain I
want. And the best price I'll get on it will be if I "wait" a couple
months till people are selling it used. (I put the word "wait" in
quotes because I'm not literally waiting the whole time.)
--
Dave Gates
dave...@primenet.com
$55 - $60. Of course, willingness to pay the price depends on my
interest in the title.
> 2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> but like the back of the box?
$10. However, there are not many games I have not heard of
> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> any game you would remotely be interested in?
About $10 for one that might be good, $5 for any game, period.
> 4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
Less than 1%. Kind of makes it the used questions for me pointless.
> Extra Credit:
>
> Give the percentage of games in each of the following category.
>
> It was FREE!
Almost none.
> Bought it Used
Almost none
> Bought it Bargain Bin
95%
> Bought it On Sale
4%
> Bought it Full Price
1%
Why do games sold in the US have a rebate policy? It's unheard of here in the
UK, or at least I've never seen that happen, so why not just sell it for $30,
or are they banking on a number of people not bothering to send off for the
rebate so they can get an extra $10?
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Yup. That, and the fact that they hope the $10 rebate will make you go
to their store and buy more stuff than just the game.
You justify the purchase of games that you know that your system cannot run
because they are cheap.
You check this bulletin board three or more times per day.
You reply to posts such as this.
In article <7fn9s0$eie$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
richar...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Here is a list of signs to look for as an indication you have too many games
> (not in any order):
>
> * You buy another $60 wooden bookcase because your first 3 bookcases are
> already full.
>
> * You aren't sure if you should buy a game you see on the shelf at the local
> software store because you don't remember if you already own it, or owned it
> at one time. You decide to buy it knowing you can always return it.
>
> * You have more than two copies of multiple games because you bought bundle
> packs.
>
> * You decide to buy a PC game at a local software store because the one you
> bought at a PC show won't let you do net play because it is from Europe and
> someone already stole the ID number.
>
> * You own more games that a local software dealer has titles on his shelf.
>
> * You repurchased the same game multiple times after selling it multiple times
> because you got tired of it, but changed your mind.
>
> * You buy a game just because it dropped under $10.
>
> * You spend over $100 on computer games when you upgrade your PC, mostly on
> resource pig software just because you want to see how well your new PC
> performs. For example, you aren't into flight sims, but you bought Falcon
> 4.0 because you knew it was the most resource intensive game out there on the
> market at this time.
>
> * You bought a title you returned earlier, which you like a wee bit but not
> enough, because its price dropped.
>
> * You check out the "Coming soon" section of the ebworld web site (or another
> computer game retailer) just about every day.
>
> * You buy games because others are having a blast with them, although you know
> full well the genre they are talking about isn't one of interest to you.
>
> * You create a "Signs that you buy, or own, too many games..." posting on a
> newsgroup.
>
> * You complain that computer games aren't what they used to be, buy you still
> keep buying more.
>
> * The frequent buyer card actually ends up costing you more money than it is
> worth, because the one day 10% off sales make you buy games when you are not
> interested at that time.
>
> Well, that is enough. If you show these signs, get medical help immediately
> =). - Richard Hutnik
>
> Visit DocReason's Strategy HQ for free games, reviews, and
> support and opponent finding for obscure/orphan games at:
> http://www.geocities.com/timessquare/fortress/7537/
>
> In article <3721E4...@bu.edu> Trent <tlu...@bu.edu> writes:
> >Knight37 wrote:
> >> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> >> any game you would remotely be interested in?
> >
> >As I said, a game going for $40 at EB with a $10 rebate is a good deal.
>
> Why do games sold in the US have a rebate policy? It's unheard of here in the
> UK, or at least I've never seen that happen, so why not just sell it for $30,
> or are they banking on a number of people not bothering to send off for the
> rebate so they can get an extra $10?
I've often wondered at the reasoning behind offering rebates. I mean, if they
only charged $30, they save the money it costs them to collect the coupons and
give out the rebates. Of course, they outsource this so it's an easy cost to
figure into the books.
I think maybe the reason they do it is that, yes, they do get a lot of people
that don't follow up on the rebate for whatever reason.
Also, in terms of finance, when a store does it, like CompUSA, they get to keep
your $10 for a little while, which means it's like an interest free loan for $10.
Now, one $10 isn't going to make a lot of diff. But millions of $10... that adds
up to a good balance on an interest free loan.
What baffles me are people that actually PRE-order games... WHY? It's like
loaning money to these (already notoriously untrustworthy) game companies with
absolutely no guarantee you'll get your money's value back, and no guarantees
on when you'll be paid back. I did this. ONCE. On ... Descent to Undermountain.
Boy did I pay. arg...
The Preorder industry, in my opinion, is bad for the gamers. While it may seem
like a convenience, it sort of puts the game company into an (unbinding) agreement,
so when the release date comes and the game is still not ready (of course), then
the gamers get to take it in the arse while the game company releases the game
anyway, makes even more money on the day one buyers, and gets the gamer community
to beta test their games while paying for it. (whew)
And we keep takin' it and takin' it some more. :)
knight37
> I think these questions imply a different buying style than mine. I
> might be a music CD on a lark because "installing" it and "running" it
> is 100% simple. For a game, there's more work involved than just
> sticking it in the CD player to check it out.
That's true. I was I guess thinking of some of these "four shelf and
six cd-rack" guys when I made this. Plus I was up really late. :)
> I see a game as being more like a library book. There's TONS of them,
> and whether they're free or not, no way am I going to spend the time to
> check all of them out, even if I'm "remotely" interested in them.
Hmm.. just because you BUY a game does not mean you check it out. :)
> > Extra Credit:
Oh good. My first Extra Credit respondant. heh. :)
> 5% It was FREE! (gift, review copy, prize, whatever)
> 65% Bought it Used
> 0% Bought it Bargain Bin
> 30% Bought it On Sale OR Bought it Full Price
>
>
> There's such a fine line between On Sale and Full Price. Rebates...
> price-matching... price-lowering... too confusing.
I agree I was not clear. I mean Full Price, as in, Mfg. Suggested
Retail Price, which is usually between $50 and $60 for full-blown,
top shelf, PC games. Now add-ons or "bargain titles" (like the
email series of Hasbro games) are a bit different. I should have
been more specific.
Nowadays, it's getting where that $50-$60 is rare on new releases,
though, but games that do very well on initial release jump up
slightly in price, while games that do poorly go down.
(Extra Credit 2)
> Oh, man, that's an awful lot of work. I'll just say that if I'm certain
> enough to buy a game in a store, I'm probably going to get more play out
> of it than some 4-year-old oddity I buy used because it's only $8.
Well, yeah, but the point of the question is to gather information about
what people DO, not what they KNOW to DO. :)
> Hands down, the best bang for my buck is when I get a game I'm certain I
> want. And the best price I'll get on it will be if I "wait" a couple
> months till people are selling it used. (I put the word "wait" in
> quotes because I'm not literally waiting the whole time.)
This seems to be the best method for bang-for-buck in my experience also.
knight37
> > Extra Credit:
> >
> > Give the percentage of games in each of the following category.
> >
> > It was FREE!
>
> Almost none.
>
> > Bought it Used
>
> Almost none
>
> > Bought it Bargain Bin
>
> 95%
>
> > Bought it On Sale
>
> 4%
>
> > Bought it Full Price
>
> 1%
>
Wow, Joel, I'm IMPRESSED! Such dedication to the bargain bin method. :)
So let me ask you another specific question (others can answer if desired):
What kind of machine do you run these games on?
If I had an older comp, I'd probably be more likely to stick with the older
games for both price reasons and performance reasons.
Of course, since I'm not only a game addict, I'm also a PC hardware addict
(on a budget), I like to buy games that showoff the cool hardware.
knight37
Brian Christopher Robinson wrote:
> Knight37 wrote in message ...
> >1. What is the maximum price you'll pay for a game you've been
> > waiting to buy based on previews or reviews?
> >
$20 - $30 if it is a newer game that I really am intrested.
>
>
> >2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> > but like the back of the box?
> >
> $5.
~$5 - $10
About the same, if the game looks intresting, playing any more is a waste
>
>
> >3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> > any game you would remotely be interested in?
> >
>
>$5 if looks ok
>
>
> >4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
> >
> Out of the total games I buy? 90%.
99.9%
Dom wrote:
> In article <3721E4...@bu.edu> Trent <tlu...@bu.edu> writes:
> >Knight37 wrote:
> >> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> >> any game you would remotely be interested in?
> >
> >As I said, a game going for $40 at EB with a $10 rebate is a good deal.
>
> Why do games sold in the US have a rebate policy? It's unheard of here in the
> UK, or at least I've never seen that happen, so why not just sell it for $30,
> or are they banking on a number of people not bothering to send off for the
> rebate so they can get an extra $10?
>
Currently I use a P2-333 w/ 64 megs of RAM, a Diamond Viper TNT card, and a
Turtle Beach Montego a3d sound card. In other words, a solid, but slightly
behind the times gamer's system. However, my prefrence of not spending much
money does reduce the pressure for upgrading.
Also, those stats are a bit thrown off since I buy ANYTHING that's in the
bargain bin even if it's just to try it out for a few minutes.
Joel Mathis
35 pounds (UK currency)
> 2. What is the maximum you'll pay for one you've never heard of
> but like the back of the box?
A game I've never heard of? Hmmm, do any exist :)
> 3. What's you're "BUY!" price - the price at which you'll buy
> any game you would remotely be interested in?
20 pounds
>
> 4. What percentage of your games do you buy used (usenet, ebay, etc)?
I only have one used game. So, probably about 1 percent.
>
> Ok, the above is the "minumum" answer questionaire, and below is
> optional stuff.
>
> Extra Credit:
>
> Give the percentage of games in each of the following category.
>
> It was FREE!
0
> Bought it Used
about 1 percent
> Bought it Bargain Bin
0
> Bought it On Sale
about 25-30 percent
> Bought it Full Price
about 70-75 percent
--
JP
I'm a soldier, not some love starved twit!!
-Celes Chere, FFVI
I already *have* such a database, with more than 250 games. (shudder.)
I don't have an "Ever Actually Played?" field, but I do rate each game by
overall/graphics/audio.
About half of them are blank in the "overall" category, indicating that
I've never played them enough to formulate an opinion. That includes a few
games like Myth which are supposed to be very good.
And that doesn't even count the 200+ Amiga games I have cluttering up some
floppy disk cabinets. They're in a separate database.
Here's a test for you: come back to a games store after several years'
absence. If they *still* recognise you, you're definitely a games junkie...
...Ronny
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