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Martinho

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Aug 23, 2002, 7:53:50 PM8/23/02
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The Napalm Song (Jody)

From Gary Morin
371st RRC 1971


We shoot the young the sick and lame
We do our best to kill and maim
Because the kills all count the same

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Flyin' low across the trees
Pilots doin' what they please
Droppin' frags on refugees

Napalm Sticks to Kids


It made us feel so good inside
When the strong men wept and the women cried
But what's really great is the children fried

Napalm Sticks to Kids


See that family over there
Watch me get'm with a pair
Blood and guts just everywhere

Napalm Sticks to Kids


CIA with guns for hire
Montaignards around the fire
Napalm makes that flame shoot higher

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Baby suckin' on a mother's tit
Gook down in a fifty pit
Dow Chemical doesn't give a shit

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Attack some kids when you go downtown
By throwin' some candy on the ground
Then grease 'm when they gather 'round

Napalm Sticks to Kids


A squad of Cong in the grass
But all the fightin's long since passed
Crispy Critters in a mass

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Oxcarts rollin' down the road
Peasants with a heavy load
They're all VC when the bombs explode

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Shootin' women's lotsa fun
Try'n get one that's pregnant, son
You'll get two for the price of one

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Flyin' low and feelin' mean
See that family by the stream
Drop some napalm and hear 'm scream

Napalm Sticks to Kids


See that gook down on his knees
Lost some fleshets in the breeze
Find his arms nailed to the trees

Napalm Sticks to Kids


NVA are all hardcore
Watch us nail 'm to the jungle floor
Throw our psyops out th' door

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Eighteen kids in a no fire zone
Books under arms and goin' home
Last in line goes home alone

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Chuck's in a sampan sittin' in th' stern
Thinks his boat'll never burn
Them fuckin' gooks'll never learn

Napalm Sticks to Kids


See the little kids jump and shout
Dropped some napalm without a doubt
Watch 'm try and put it out

Napalm Sticks to Kids


I've been around the things I've seen
Some people who are mighty mean
The gooks ya kill, they make ya clean

Napalm Sticks to Kids


I've only seen it happen twice
But both times it was pretty nice
Shootin' peasants plantin' rice

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Napalm son is lots of fun
When dropped from a bomb or shot from a gun
It gets the gooks when they're on the run

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Some people say it's not so neat
To see gooks burnin' in th' street
But burnin' flesh smells mighty sweet

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Shoot civilians where they sit
Take some pictures as you split
All your life you'll remember it

Napalm Sticks to Kids


They're in great shape for the shape they're in
But there's no way that they can win
With napalm rollin' down their skin

Napalm Sticks to Kids


Gary Morin
former SP/4 GarMo ... --- ..- - .... . .- ... -
371st RR Co .- ... .. .- .-- .- .-. --. .- -- . ...
'70 Phuc Vinh '71 .--. .- .-. - .. -.-. .. .--. .- -. -
'71 Asmara '72 -.-. .- .. .-. -... --- .-. -. .
"Don't squat with your spurs on"


nah nah nah nah nahnah naaaaaaa nananana naaaaaa hey jude


John Ward

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Aug 24, 2002, 2:19:20 AM8/24/02
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Martinho,
There is so much embodied in that song. Please excuse my ignorance, but
I've never seen or heard it before. What is the background to it ?
I hope there is a way for you, Zardoz, Chuck, Allan, PapaDoc, Tom, Chris
and all the others to turn your obvious posting talents and life experiences
to FlightSims/Combat FlightSims/Computers, as you all appear to have so much
to offer.
Whatever the relative strengths/weaknesses/merits of all your collective
arguments may be, they appear to actually achieve nothing in real life other
than clogging up this NG.
I don't doubt that you all hold your various beliefs very passionately,
but what can you tell the rest of us about FlightSims/Combat FlightSims ?

Regards
John Ward
Brisbane, Australia
john...@bigpond.net.au
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Jay Williams

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Aug 24, 2002, 11:16:38 AM8/24/02
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This was a cold thing to wake up to this morning. I remember when I was a
kid watching the war news on the TV during dinner; some of my friends had
older brothers who went, one even went to Canada to avoid the draft.

I vaguely remember this song, or at least the chorus... I'd be interested
in where you found it as well, Martinho.

I agree we should eliminate the terroists, where ever we find them, after
all they have proven that jet fuel has the same properties when used in an
indiscriminate manner. However, let us not forget that if the first
casualty of war is truth, the second is the innocence of our own young men
and women. Let us also remember that as much as we love our country, the
people we elect to govern us occasionally lie to us (remember Cambodia,
Laos, the Phoenix program, Iran / Contra, etc.) and so we should continue to
hold them to a high standard, ask the hard questions, and take appropriate
action (ranging from not voting for them again, to impeaching them, to
crminally prosecuting them) when they lie to us.

There was a partner of mine from my EMS days who had worked in some form of
communications during the Vietnam war... (I last saw Jim over 20 years ago
and do not recall the exact details) He said it used to eat him up that he
would see the news where our government would deny certain
fairly-questionable activities, but some sort of after-action report
confirming it had passed over his desk just a day or so before. Of course,
he could never say anything.

There is one glaring difference, of course... The Viet Cong didn't come to
the US and kill over 2,000 civilians and there was never a realistic threat
that they would. The Al Queda have proven themselves capable and willing to
do so. It doesn't justify the indescriminate killing of non-combatants, but
lets also keep in mind one similarity. In a war against terrorism, like a
guerilla war, it can be hard to tell who is a combatant, and who isn't.


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John Malcolm

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Aug 24, 2002, 10:16:37 PM8/24/02
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Erm.... the US Goverment has yet to supply the world with conclusive proof
that Al Queda carried out the 911 suicide attacks...... Want to get back at
the hijackers? Attack Saudi.... or better still your own goverment plus the
Israelis


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Dusty Rhodes

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Aug 25, 2002, 12:55:15 AM8/25/02
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LMAO, what planet you been on lately? The proof is out there, has been
presented, and is obvious unless you are blind and stupid.

Dusty Rhodes


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PAPADOC

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Aug 25, 2002, 1:47:17 AM8/25/02
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Why is it you tin foil wearing conspiracy freaks always make such
wierd sounds when you type..??? Erm...what the fuck is ERM?

Conclusive proof...????

Well actually we know the Israelis did it but its such a bitchin good
time bombing innocent Arab civilians that we figureed what the
hell...who is gonna stop us? You tinfoil beenie babies...?

PAPA DOC

>Erm.... the US Goverment has yet to supply the world with conclusive proof
>that Al Queda carried out the 911 suicide attacks...... Want to get back at
>the hijackers? Attack Saudi.... or better still your own goverment plus the
>Israelis
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

John Malcolm

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Aug 25, 2002, 5:26:30 AM8/25/02
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Could you kindly point me in the direction of this proof. I'd like proof
that a bunch of dudes in caves in Afghanistan planned and carried out the
suicide bombings, as well as proof that anything resembling a passenger jet
hit the Pentagon, and an explanation why there were no innocent people on
any of the aircraft with Muslim sounding names. While you're at it, maybe
you could explain how the anthrax used in bio-warfare attacks after 11th
September have been traced to USAMRIID


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Allan Mayer

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Aug 25, 2002, 8:03:06 AM8/25/02
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In article <ep1a9.605$AN4.17020@newsfep2-gui>, "John Malcolm"
<johnmal...@hotmail.com> writes:

> as well as proof that anything resembling a passenger jet
>hit the Pentagon,


Well, for one, it was caught on TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Want proof ?????

My best friend was IN the Pentagon when it was hit !!!!!!!!
He just got out, people two offices down never made it, or had the chance !!!
(he still works there too)

Want more ????????

My fathers friend was ON flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon !!!!!

I have come to the conclusion that this newsgroup has a high
population of American hating, scoialistic, poor, low class
europeans
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!

Gawd .... you eurowennies really do hate us because we are soooo
much more successfull, and have more freedom than you, dont you......


{PLONK}


Note here; I know that a lot of the europeans here are normal, and
nice people, and dont share these views, but from what I've seen
recently, you are in the minority, yet at the same time, things like the UN,
and International Crimminal Court, only reinforce to us "Ami's" that you
really dont like the US, and what we do, and feel compelled to try and
have some measure of control over us. Get over it. The things you dont
like about us, are the same things europeans practised in the 1700's,
and 1800's, with more brutality on the world than we have done.
Your time has come and gone... The 21st century, and beyond is our
time, and as such, realize that your's has already come and gone.........


Allan
http://members.aol.com/Thetabat/hello.html

"Only a Gentleman can insult me, and a true Gentleman never will..."


FLY135

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Aug 25, 2002, 9:06:56 AM8/25/02
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"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Could you kindly point me in the direction of this proof

Why would anyone want to waste their time?


PAPADOC

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Aug 25, 2002, 10:58:48 AM8/25/02
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Well they only moved into caves when Delta Forces arrived. They found
out that caves dont work that well...

Lets see the security tape that was shown on TV showing the Plane
hit..?

Complete list of passengers listed here...not put into most published
lists because victims families were rightly outraged to have those
towel headed mothefuckers listed with their loved ones.

http://www.wikipedia.com/wiki/September_11,_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Plane_casualties

Actually they have NOT been tracked there...the Antrax is the Ames
strain which was widely distributed.

PAPA DOC

>Could you kindly point me in the direction of this proof. I'd like proof
>that a bunch of dudes in caves in Afghanistan planned and carried out the
>suicide bombings, as well as proof that anything resembling a passenger jet
>hit the Pentagon, and an explanation why there were no innocent people on
>any of the aircraft with Muslim sounding names. While you're at it, maybe
>you could explain how the anthrax used in bio-warfare attacks after 11th
>September have been traced to USAMRIID

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

John Malcolm

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Aug 25, 2002, 12:19:29 PM8/25/02
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"Allan Mayer" <azzz...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ep1a9.605$AN4.17020@newsfep2-gui>, "John Malcolm"
> <johnmal...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > as well as proof that anything resembling a passenger jet
> >hit the Pentagon,
>
>
> Well, for one, it was caught on TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

No it wasn't. The DOD released 5 stills from a security camera, well after
the event. Many people have studied these, and the overwhelming finding is
that something a lot smaller than a passenger jet hit the building. Here's
one example: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~julianr/crashvideo.html

Funny that the "hijackers" picked a part of the Pentagon that was undergoing
refurbishment.

>
> Want proof ?????
>

Yes please.

> My best friend was IN the Pentagon when it was hit !!!!!!!!
> He just got out, people two offices down never made it, or had the chance
!!!
> (he still works there too)

Did he see the plane? I don't doubt for one minute there was a large
explosion and loss of life... I'm just saying it wasn't Flight 77.

>
> Want more ????????
>
> My fathers friend was ON flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon !!!!!
>

You father's friend was on Flight 77 that was probably shot down by a US
fighter. Come on! The Pentagon was hit roughly an hour after the WTC. You
don't think the DOD might have ordered the aircraft shot down by then.

> I have come to the conclusion that this newsgroup has a high
> population of American hating, scoialistic, poor, low class
> europeans
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!
>

American hating? No. America hating? Yes. Scoialistic? That's a new one! Did
you mean Socialist? If so, then no, not really. Low class? Nope. European?
Yes!

> Gawd .... you eurowennies really do hate us because we are soooo
> much more successfull, and have more freedom than you, dont you......
>

Land of the free? Bollocks! Your Constitution has been getting eroded a fair
bit recently. Right now you have a large but unspecified number of American
citizens being held without charges or access to legal representation. Their
"crime"? They happen to be of arab descent. You have a President who was
bankrolled into power by oil money.... and who gained the Presidency through
electoral fraud. The Bush family has many close links to the Bin Laden
family. The Taliban goverment in Afghanistan refused a US offer to have a
pipeline through their country weeks before 11th September. So, now we have
a nice compliant puppet goverment there, and the pipeline goes ahead.
America is the number one, biggest threat to the world today. They are the
only country ever to have used atomic weapons in anger. They are the world's
worst polluters. They want immunity from international war crimes tribunals.
They reckon it's legitimate to remove a sovereign nations head of state
and/or government from power if they don't agree with them, and they have a
history of setting up or allowing to happen events that give excuse for war.

Dusty Rhodes

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Aug 25, 2002, 2:49:56 PM8/25/02
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SO, mister conspiracy theorist (not you this time PD HAHAHA) what happened
to that flight that took off and all those people were on? Govt. kidnapped
them and took them to a remote place to live their lives? Or did they just
murder them so no one could tell what happened. HAHAHAH oh lordy HAHAHAHA,
this is good LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Better yet, show proof that it was not an airliner that hit the Pentagon.
You are making the accusation, now back it up **SNICKER**, like he can LMAO!

ROTFLMAO Picked HAHAHAHA a part LOLOL of the Pentagon hehehehe that was
being refurbished ROTFLMAO, oh that is a good one!!!!!! Yeah, they painted
a bullseye on it so to make sure they hit that particular spot!!!!!!!!!!!!
You fucking hairbrain asshole. Here is some news for you, I hear Papadoc
was on the grassy knoll. No really. Believe me?

Dusty Rhodes

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John Malcolm

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Aug 25, 2002, 6:10:16 PM8/25/02
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Here's something interesting for you to chew on:
http://www.rense.com/general24/why.htm
and http://www.rense.com/general25/genr.htm and another
http://www.unansweredquestions.org/topic.php?tid=57

I don't know what happened to the passengers and crew of Flight 77, but the
obvious answer is that the plane was brought down before reaching the
Washington area. In none of the photos released of damage to the Pentagon
can one see a single piece of aircraft wreckage. You'd surely expect to see
whole sections of wing, fuselage and perhaps even engine lying around. When
the Pan Am flight was blown up over Lockerbie, there where still parts
identifiable as being from an aircraft, enough certainly for researchers to
physically collect and piece them back together. Where are the black boxes?

What's that smell? It's the smell of another Reichstag fire.

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JD

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Aug 25, 2002, 7:25:28 PM8/25/02
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Thus spake "John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> on Sun, 25
Aug 2002 23:10:16 +0100, as he held forth on "Re: PAPADOC ET ALL!"

This is downright embarrassing. The sad part is that some of these
idiots are probably old enough to vote. The Democratic system
would be in serious trouble if it weren't for the fact that
they're too stupid find their way to the polls on election day.

John Malcolm

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I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
this day and age. Perhaps you're all too busy being spoon-fed by CNN, or
worrying that raising questions may result in an early morning visit from
the Department of Homeland Security. Are Americans so gullible that the
believe everything their Government tells them without question? I'll leave
you all with one single simple question to mull over amongst yourselves.
What individual, group, cause or sovereign country benefited from the WTC
suicide attacks?


HockeyTownUSA

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Aug 25, 2002, 9:08:09 PM8/25/02
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Thanks PapaDoc. You are ALWAYS the one with the best sources of info. I hate
weenie consipiracy theorists. He probably just watched all nine seasons of
the X-files repeatedly for the last year...


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PAPADOC

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Aug 25, 2002, 9:50:39 PM8/25/02
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You are probably one of those fuck deniers as well....the holocaust
didnt happen either eh. And the Thousand year Reich is just around the
corner.

PAPA DOC

>I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
>this day and age. Perhaps you're all too busy being spoon-fed by CNN, or
>worrying that raising questions may result in an early morning visit from
>the Department of Homeland Security. Are Americans so gullible that the
>believe everything their Government tells them without question? I'll leave
>you all with one single simple question to mull over amongst yourselves.
>What individual, group, cause or sovereign country benefited from the WTC
>suicide attacks?
>
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

Bill Silvey

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"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
> this day and age. Perhaps you're all too busy being spoon-fed by CNN, or
> worrying that raising questions may result in an early morning visit from
> the Department of Homeland Security. Are Americans so gullible that the
> believe everything their Government tells them without question? I'll
leave
> you all with one single simple question to mull over amongst yourselves.
> What individual, group, cause or sovereign country benefited from the WTC
> suicide attacks?

You must be some kind of foil-hat-wearing fuckwit to think that the WTC and
Pentagon attacks were some sort of "government conspiracy". You had that
open sewer you call a mouth ratcheted so far open to scream "DEATH TO
AMERICA!" that what little functional grey matter you had just fell right
out and got stomped into jelly by the feet of the rest of the Kollektiv
marching on behind you.

Tell me something, you feeble-minded anencephalic little homonculous, are
you aware that the current conspiracy theory about the attacks on 9/11 - a
conspiracy too stupid and offensive to even be considered by the most
wacked-out 'X-Files' screenwriters - has been proffered by the French?

Let's go over a quick recent history of notable French achievements in the
realm of international politics, shall we?

1916: Fighting a grinding war against the Germans they had no hope in hell
of winning, until the United States got involved.

1940: Folding like a house of cards before - guess who! - the Germans and
being the ass-cowboy for the Wehrmacht until they got their collaberating,
Vichy-cocksucking, cheese-eating surrender-monkey sphincters saved by the
United States and UK.

1954: Withdrawing from NATO, the only country that could possibly save their
brie-eating, sewer-reeking, beret-wearing scabarous butts in the event of a
big throwdown with the Warsaw Pact forces. Yeah, smart!

1982: In a fantastic intel coup, they sank a greenpeace boat! Yay them!

1983: Sold enough "yellow cake" uranium to Iraq that Israel had to blow up
the French designed breeder reactor at Osirik to keep Saddam from getting a
nuclear weapons program together.

1984: Refused flyover for F111's during Operation Diablo Canyon. Pity our
'111 pilots were so tired they dropped a few LGBs on the French embassy.

2002: Granted fishing rights to more scumbag frog countrymen to harvest
oysters off of Omaha beach.

So this is the lot that you've thrown in with. You buy *their* brand of
filthy european, continentalist, socialist bullshit. Congratulations, Mrs.
Malcom must be very proud of her little boy.

That there's someone alive and drawing breath who *doesn't* live in the
middle of some godforsaken sandhill country who has the mendacity to believe
that a remote-controlled fighter jet hit the Pentagon just astounds me.
Where the fuck do you get your news from, comic books?

As to "CNN", guess what, shithead - Sky News, the BBC, and *every reputable
news agency in the world* knows what happened on 9/11. Idiot cockwipes like
you who let your brain fester in putrid fishwrappers like "News Of The
World" et. al. (which is, by the way, the proper spelling, you goddamned
idiot, not "ET ALL") are the only mongrel castoffs who might give a toss
what's said in the so-called "alternative press".

So filled with hatred for the most successful, powerful, free, democratic
and richest nation on the face of the planet are you that you'll jump at
even the notion of a shadow of doubt - even when it's painfully obvious even
to blind down's-syndrome sufferers what actually happened. It's the same
jealousy that drives pimply faced teenagers to dismiss beautiful, successful
women as obvious dykes - I mean, if they weren't they'd be sucking your
cock, right? RIGHT?

So live in your socialist hellhole nation where you can sit in your
government doled-out apartment, you little eurotrash fuckwipe, and blast the
30-second X-Files theme on "repeat" all god-damned night long. Read your
trash continentalist conspiracy theory novels and convince yourself that
you're RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT as you hold your copy of Das Kapital with a
bear-hug and rock back and forth on your heels autistically, waiting waiting
waiting for the next report from your brainmasters at whatreallyhappened.com
or yellowtimes.org. You're Gollum, and this little CONspiracy theory of
yours is your magic fucking ring - but here's the news, flash, little
fellow. It ain't there. There's no "theory" no "conspiracy", no nothing.
At Bin Laden's behest, those fuckers under the leadership of Mohammed Atta
pulled off a huge crime.

You're so utterly pathetic that I'd recommend you shoot yourself - but alas!
You live in a nice safe place in the world where the RKBA doesn't exist.

In conclusion, you castoff descendant of a Nazi collaberator, it should be
painfully obvious to even someone as unremittingly stupid and just plain
wrong as you that anyone - say, a certain saudi family - who had money
invested in certain companies, then sold those investments on 9/10 or 09/07,
stood to gain a lot of money.

But you're too ignorant to grasp that, since it's more of that FILTHY
AMERICAN CAPITALISM you hate so, so much.


Allan Mayer

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In article <Zbfa9.209527$2p2.8...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
"HockeyTownUSA" <ma...@comcast.net> writes:

>He probably just watched all nine seasons of
>the X-files repeatedly for the last year...
>

No, he is just an American hater..........

Seems to be a lot of that running around these days among
disgruntled europeans............

FLY135

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"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Here's something interesting for you to chew on:
> http://www.rense.com/general24/why.htm
> and http://www.rense.com/general25/genr.htm and another
> http://www.unansweredquestions.org/topic.php?tid=57
>
> I don't know what happened to the passengers and crew of Flight 77, but
the
> obvious answer is that the plane was brought down before reaching the
> Washington area.

This is only obvious to someone who refuses to believe the obvious.


FLY135

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"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
> this day and age.

You've already proved yourself to be an idiot. You get your news from other
idiots like yourself and then you claim that CNN is brainwashing Americans.
Are you here just for the troll? Or are you so totally oblivious to the
fact that you come off like a moron, that you believe you are getting some
important message across? In any case you seem to lack the intelligence to
actually know when you should be "shitting yourself with embarrassment".
Like right now for instance.

Jay Williams

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Aug 25, 2002, 11:12:16 PM8/25/02
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I would bother to respond to you, you miserable, collaborating piece of
offal, but everyone else has done so far better than I.

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Allan Mayer

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In article <1Vfa9.298280$s8.53...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, "Bill Silvey"
<bxsxixl...@cfl.rr.com> writes:

>But you're too ignorant to grasp that, since it's more of that FILTHY
>AMERICAN CAPITALISM you hate so, so much.


Yep you are 100% right !!
(GREAT post BTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I wonder though ... You always hear them talking about how much
they hate us, and how socialism and their way of life is so much
more compassionate, yet I never hear them say how good their own
lives actually are. You will never hear them say and be proud of how
free they are, or great their industry is, and the goods it provides for
them are. (Like we alwyas do, because we ARE the greatist !!!)

Lets go one further shall we

Lets see, if it wasnt for us filthy Americans, they wouldnt have a lot of
the things they have now. Like the internet, small fast computers, faster
communications, large land based aircraft, nor for that matter their
freedom right now !!! (you already pointed that out earlier)
Sure, in time human nature being what it is, most of these ('cept
freedom) would have eventually come along in time, but with their way of
life, it would have been decades before anyone of their lazy asses would
have invented, much less been able to prduce these things.....

In a way, you do have to like the international Crimminal Court though.
It will just about assure that we will not risk our young peoples lives
to help, much less save them anymore. And thats good, 'bout time
they grew up and learned how to save their own skins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Though we Americans know that if, and when the balloon goes up,
(again) they will come running right back to us to help them AGAIN !!

Vern Pellerin

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>You are probably one of those fuck deniers as well....the holocaust
>didnt happen either eh. And the Thousand year Reich is just around the
>corner.
>
>PAPA DOC


Hey, don't forget that the world is FLAT too. If you travel by ship too far,
you fall off the edge!!!

sunny

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<snip>

| I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
| this day and age.

That's OK, just wipe your stupid arse with whatever hand you use.

Perhaps you're all too busy being spoon-fed by CNN, or
| worrying that raising questions may result in an early morning visit from
| the Department of Homeland Security.

Doesn't worry me here in Aust.

Are Americans so gullible that the
| believe everything their Government tells them without question?

What are your unbiased sources, for the mindless crap that you spew?

I'll leave
| you all with one single simple question to mull over amongst yourselves.
| What individual, group, cause or sovereign country benefited from the WTC
| suicide attacks?

individual, group = The religious mullar fanatic rag heads
cause = Islam
sovereign country = All the fanatic Islamic countries, that breed and foster the scum

John Malcolm

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Holocaust denier? Nope!

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John Malcolm

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Nice rant! Unfortunately it's just that.... a rant. You lot don't seem to be
able to be open minded enough to have a debate without getting offensive.

"Bill Silvey" <bxsxixl...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Amongst others.

> Let's go over a quick recent history of notable French achievements in the
> realm of international politics, shall we?

Oh goody!

>
> 1916: Fighting a grinding war against the Germans they had no hope in hell
> of winning, until the United States got involved.
>
> 1940: Folding like a house of cards before - guess who! - the Germans and
> being the ass-cowboy for the Wehrmacht until they got their collaberating,
> Vichy-cocksucking, cheese-eating surrender-monkey sphincters saved by the
> United States and UK.

Hooray for the USA! When did the yanks turn up for the war? Late as usual!

>
> 1954: Withdrawing from NATO, the only country that could possibly save
their
> brie-eating, sewer-reeking, beret-wearing scabarous butts in the event of
a
> big throwdown with the Warsaw Pact forces. Yeah, smart!
>
> 1982: In a fantastic intel coup, they sank a greenpeace boat! Yay them!
>
> 1983: Sold enough "yellow cake" uranium to Iraq that Israel had to blow up
> the French designed breeder reactor at Osirik to keep Saddam from getting
a
> nuclear weapons program together.

Bloody hell! The USA had been supporting Saddam for years in his fight
against Iran. Let's not forget arming the mujahadeen, propping up various
dodgy rightwing dictatorships around the world and training and funding
rightwing terrorist groups.

>
> 1984: Refused flyover for F111's during Operation Diablo Canyon. Pity our
> '111 pilots were so tired they dropped a few LGBs on the French embassy.
>
> 2002: Granted fishing rights to more scumbag frog countrymen to harvest
> oysters off of Omaha beach.

The bloody cheek of them.... that water's American soil or something.

>
> So this is the lot that you've thrown in with. You buy *their* brand of
> filthy european, continentalist, socialist bullshit. Congratulations,
Mrs.
> Malcom must be very proud of her little boy.

I aint a socialist. I don't buy anyone's brand of bullshit. I like to ask
questions instead of taking everything at face value. My mother is very
proud of me.

>
> That there's someone alive and drawing breath who *doesn't* live in the
> middle of some godforsaken sandhill country who has the mendacity to
believe
> that a remote-controlled fighter jet hit the Pentagon just astounds me.
> Where the fuck do you get your news from, comic books?
>
> As to "CNN", guess what, shithead - Sky News, the BBC, and *every
reputable
> news agency in the world* knows what happened on 9/11. Idiot cockwipes
like
> you who let your brain fester in putrid fishwrappers like "News Of The
> World" et. al. (which is, by the way, the proper spelling, you goddamned
> idiot, not "ET ALL") are the only mongrel castoffs who might give a toss
> what's said in the so-called "alternative press".
>

Can you point me to my post in which I said "et all".... I'm pretty sure
you'll find it was the original creator of the thread who gave it that
subject line. You know... the dude who posted song lyrics about bombing
innocent cicilians and children with napalm. The last time I looked the
newspaper I read was called "The Herald".

> So filled with hatred for the most successful, powerful, free, democratic
> and richest nation on the face of the planet are you that you'll jump at
> even the notion of a shadow of doubt - even when it's painfully obvious
even
> to blind down's-syndrome sufferers what actually happened. It's the same
> jealousy that drives pimply faced teenagers to dismiss beautiful,
successful
> women as obvious dykes - I mean, if they weren't they'd be sucking your
> cock, right? RIGHT?
>
> So live in your socialist hellhole nation where you can sit in your
> government doled-out apartment, you little eurotrash fuckwipe, and blast
the
> 30-second X-Files theme on "repeat" all god-damned night long. Read your
> trash continentalist conspiracy theory novels and convince yourself that
> you're RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT as you hold your copy of Das Kapital with a
> bear-hug and rock back and forth on your heels autistically, waiting
waiting
> waiting for the next report from your brainmasters at
whatreallyhappened.com
> or yellowtimes.org. You're Gollum, and this little CONspiracy theory of
> yours is your magic fucking ring - but here's the news, flash, little
> fellow. It ain't there. There's no "theory" no "conspiracy", no nothing.
> At Bin Laden's behest, those fuckers under the leadership of Mohammed Atta
> pulled off a huge crime.
>

The last time I checked the United Kingdom wasn't classed as a socialist
hellhole. It's getting worse mind you, as American style politics take a
hold, with personality being more important than principles.

> You're so utterly pathetic that I'd recommend you shoot yourself - but
alas!
> You live in a nice safe place in the world where the RKBA doesn't exist.

They'll be coming to take your guns away next

>
> In conclusion, you castoff descendant of a Nazi collaberator, it should be
> painfully obvious to even someone as unremittingly stupid and just plain
> wrong as you that anyone - say, a certain saudi family - who had money
> invested in certain companies, then sold those investments on 9/10 or
09/07,
> stood to gain a lot of money.
>

"castoff descendant of a Nazi collaberator (sic)"..... Hey don't talk about
George Dubya like that. It's not his fault that his family made their
fortune dealing with Nazi Germany.

> But you're too ignorant to grasp that, since it's more of that FILTHY
> AMERICAN CAPITALISM you hate so, so much.
>

You want to stop ranting and start asking yourself some serious questions
about why MOST of the population of the planet earth hates and despises the
USA.


John Malcolm

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"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
| I'd be shitting myself with embarrassment if I was an American citizen in
| this day and age.

That's OK, just wipe your stupid arse with whatever hand you use.

Perhaps you're all too busy being spoon-fed by CNN, or
| worrying that raising questions may result in an early morning visit from
| the Department of Homeland Security.

Doesn't worry me here in Aust.

Aust? Australia? Austria?

Are Americans so gullible that the
| believe everything their Government tells them without question?

What are your unbiased sources, for the mindless crap that you spew?

A simple Google search turns up a fair few. I wouldn't claim they are
unbiased.

I'll leave
| you all with one single simple question to mull over amongst yourselves.
| What individual, group, cause or sovereign country benefited from the WTC
| suicide attacks?

individual, group = The religious mullar fanatic rag heads
cause = Islam
sovereign country = All the fanatic Islamic countries, that breed and
foster the scum

individual, group = George W. Bush, his big oil buddies, Ariel Sharon
cause = being able to bomb and attack any country they
please
sovereign country = USA and Israel

PAPADOC

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You are an idiot because of a variety of things but the simplest thing
to point out is just exactly why any Oil Man wants more oil in the
market right now. In the ground it appreciates...currently in the US
market Oil is priced waaaay below what it sold for in 1978. Absolutely
no reason to go thru all of this trouble for more oil.

If a person wanted to make more money right now on Russian Oil fields
it would have been much much simpler to simply have a terrorist attack
against Saudi and Iraq oil fields. Kill production there and zoom
price of oil goes up.

Your basic premise is incorrect....course Im sure that wont stop you
since its easier to understand a tin foil beenie theory of the CIA and
Mossad runing planes into towers to give us reason to attack
countries. Another item you havent considered is if George Bush is as
crazy as you think he is certainly he wouldnt need an excuse to
attack. Its not like anyone in the world can stop us were we to decide
to go to war for the heck of it.

Finally to call George Bush and oil man is to ignore the fact that he
never had a successful oil operation. He was a much better Baseball
Team owner...hey maybe the CIA and Mossad ran those planes into the
buildings so he could get better Picks. Thats it...better picks for
the Texas Rangers.

PAPA DOC

> individual, group = George W. Bush, his big oil buddies, Ariel Sharon
>cause = being able to bomb and attack any country they
>please
>sovereign country = USA and Israel
>
>
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

John Malcolm

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"PAPADOC" <PAP...@jimbobs.drive.by> dribbled in message
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> You are an idiot because of a variety of things but the simplest thing
> to point out is just exactly why any Oil Man wants more oil in the
> market right now. In the ground it appreciates...currently in the US
> market Oil is priced waaaay below what it sold for in 1978. Absolutely
> no reason to go thru all of this trouble for more oil.
>

Perhaps to safeguard further oil reserves?

> If a person wanted to make more money right now on Russian Oil fields
> it would have been much much simpler to simply have a terrorist attack
> against Saudi and Iraq oil fields. Kill production there and zoom
> price of oil goes up.
>

I think we're going to have a terrorist attack in that area between November
and the beginning of 2003.... only it's going to be called, euphemistically,
a "regime change", and the guys killing civilians in "unfortunate collateral
damage" will once again be flying the stars and stripes.

> Your basic premise is incorrect....course Im sure that wont stop you
> since its easier to understand a tin foil beenie theory of the CIA and
> Mossad runing planes into towers to give us reason to attack
> countries. Another item you havent considered is if George Bush is as
> crazy as you think he is certainly he wouldnt need an excuse to
> attack. Its not like anyone in the world can stop us were we to decide
> to go to war for the heck of it.
>

You don't get it do you. Whether anyone in the US administration was "in on
it" isn't really the point. As you keep reminding me.... it's just theory.
Theories should be discussed. At best the US government and it's agencies
are guilty of criminal negligence. I didn't claim George Bush was crazy. I
think he's pigshit thick. He DOES need excuses to go to war with other
countries... excuses to the American electorate and the mothers and fathers
of the young people he's about to send overseas. I'd hate to die in a
foreign land just because some war-dodging cokehead daddy's boy decided he
didn't like the leadership of that country. But Saddam interferes with peace
in the region, I hear you bleat. So do you! He wants/has weapons of mass
destruction, you whine. So do you, and you've used them! He's nasty to the
poor Kurds, you blubber. So is Turkey, a NATO ally, and let's not forget how
the US set-up the Kurds for a beating at the end of Desert Storm. He's
gassed his own people, you whimper. So have you! The FBI has finally
conceded to Congress that it used pyrotechnic tear gas canisters at Waco....
only 80 people burned to death as a result.... only 24 of them were
children.

> Finally to call George Bush and oil man is to ignore the fact that he
> never had a successful oil operation. He was a much better Baseball
> Team owner...hey maybe the CIA and Mossad ran those planes into the
> buildings so he could get better Picks. Thats it...better picks for
> the Texas Rangers.
>

I never said he was an oil man, successful or otherwise. I claimed he bought
his way into power using oil money, supplied by his big oil man friends.
Jesus Christ! You admit that he couldn't even run an oil operation, yet you
voted him into power.

Can I respectfully suggest that we end this conversation shortly. We all
have pretty strong views and opinions on the matter, and are very unlikely
to change each others minds. I'm not suggesting I get the last word or
anything, just that I've become guilty of dragging the forum down with
non-flight-sim related posts, as I accused others of doing. It's easy to get
dragged in.

Martinho

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yay bill

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Martinho

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to they tune Deutschland uber alles eh?

"John Malcolm" <johnmal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >

Martinho

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that doesnt make you any less of a cock jockey

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Allan Mayer

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In article <LLla9.837$Dq4....@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net>, "John Malcolm"
<johnmal...@hotmail.com> writes:

>You want to stop ranting and start asking yourself some serious questions
>about why MOST of the population of the planet earth hates and despises the
>USA.


Becasue we have a more freedom here than the rest of the world ??
Because we have a society that let's it's own citizens achieve as much
or as little as they want ???
Because we have a higher technology than the rest of the world ??
Because this technology is more readilly avaiable to it's citizens ??
Because we have the most powerfull military on the earth to defend us ??
Because when there is war, we can afford to trade money for blood ???
And the rest of the world cant ??? (reason atomic weapons were dropped,
to spare American lives)
Because we wont be party to the International Crimminal Court ??
(a politically motivated court with NO accountability)

Because you wouldnt be on the net if some Americans hadnt invented it ?


Tell me when to stop...................................

PAPADOC

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You are a fucking idiot but as the Nazi's proved in 1935 if not
challenged idiots have a way of getting power. Soooo.

>
>Perhaps to safeguard further oil reserves?

To safeguard oil reserves...??? What the fuck for, are the oil
reserves in the ground disappearing, turning into Dinosaurs or
something...? Oil reserves in the ground are the safest place to keep
oil until the price comes back up. We have all sorts of wells down
South that are capped off because the owners dont like the prices.
Furthermore contrary to the doom and gloom of the 70's and that fucked
up President Carter and his team of goofballs we have plenty of oil to
last us well into the next century. Your BASIC premise of your
"THEORY" is as fucked up as you are in your head.

>I think we're going to have a terrorist attack in that area between November
>and the beginning of 2003.... only it's going to be called, euphemistically,
>a "regime change", and the guys killing civilians in "unfortunate collateral
>damage" will once again be flying the stars and stripes.

Fucking right the same exact bad asses that pulled your worthless
country back into the realm of the free. The same exact bad asses that
pulled Japan out of the maws of feudelism, Germany out of the maws of
the 1000 year Reich, the same exact bad asses that pulled Afganistan
out of the maws of a bunch of towel headed motherfuckers that think
the 7th Century was the best time ever.

Ask the Japanese whether they would like to still be living under the
Rule of Tojo, or ask the Germans whether they would like to go back to
living under Hitler, or the Italians whether they would like to go
back to Mussolini, or the Russians whether Stalin was better, ask the
Afganis whether they are pining for the Taliban to return to power...

>You don't get it do you. Whether anyone in the US administration was "in on
>it" isn't really the point. As you keep reminding me.... it's just theory.

Well to avoid wasting time on stupid shit a person is supposed to
consider whether a particular theory makes any sense in the light of
all the evidence to the contrary. You are too fucking stupid to be
entertaining us all with your theories....just as the French in
general are too fucking stupid to breathing the same air as the rest
of us.

To have a conspiracy the size of what you are advocating the entire US
government consisting of these groups would have to be collaborating.

1. The Demoncrats, who would LOVE absolutely LOVE for the Republicans
to be involved in something so useless and stupid. Another Republican
wouldnt be elected in 200 years.

2. The Press which contrary to your very limited ability to comprehend
consists of thousands of reporters all looking for tha Woodward and
Bernstien break to make a name for themselves. A story this juicy
would be out so fast and in so many different outlets.

3. The judicary....which has alot of very serious people who dont like
the idea of the kind of government you are evidently used to .

4, Any number of future Presidential candidates from either
party...who would love to blast a sitting President with this sort of
stupidity.

5. Thousands of people involved in an operation the size of this.

>Theories should be discussed. At best the US government and it's agencies
>are guilty of criminal negligence.

First we beat the terrorists then we beat up the Government for being
so fucking incompetent that a bunch of towel headed mass murderers got
past them.

>I didn't claim George Bush was crazy. I
>think he's pigshit thick.

Yea everyone that graduates from Yale and Harvard can be considered
stupid. And those guys who reach the Presidency and give the types of
speeches he has given are especially stupid. You guys are so fucking
predictable I wonder why we just cannot put all of you on an island so
that the quality of the opposition could improve. At least you people
should be neutered so as to not spread your Germs anywhere else.

>He DOES need excuses to go to war with other
>countries... excuses to the American electorate and the mothers and fathers
>of the young people he's about to send overseas.

Nope if he was crazy enough to have the CIA and Mossad fly planes into
the WTC and Pentagon he wouldnt need any reason....just have the CIA
fire some missiles off from inside of Iraq and viola instant war. You
are too stupid to continue talking please throw yourself off the
highest building nearby.

>So do you! He wants/has weapons of mass
>destruction, you whine. So do you, and you've used them!

Yup I agree we should have just invaded Japan and killed a few million
more of them fighting them across their country. Better we should lose
200,000 young men than we drop the bomb. Bullshit....Japan started it
we finished it. Exactly whats gonna happen to those towel headed
freaks.

> He's nasty to the
>poor Kurds, you blubber. So is Turkey, a NATO ally, and let's not forget how
>the US set-up the Kurds for a beating at the end of Desert Storm.

Absolutely we treated the Kurds shamefully and it was all because of
idiots like you who are constantly seeing evil and good as the same
exact thing in your best days or on your bad days evil as good and
good as evil.

>He's
>gassed his own people, you whimper. So have you! The FBI has finally
>conceded to Congress that it used pyrotechnic tear gas canisters at Waco....
>only 80 people burned to death as a result.... only 24 of them were
>children.

You obviously havent any clue about what you are talking about. For
the comparison to be valid the Gassing by the FBI would have to have
happened on city wide scales on a continous basis and the gas wouldnt
be tear gas but mustard, sarin and VX. And between 70,000 to 150,000
people would have died from the attacks by the FBI. Btw I feel like
the Attorney General who was in charge during the Ruby Ridge and Waco
attacks should have faced some type of court. Both events were wrong
and hurt our country far more than the problems they intended to
correct. But to compare them is absurd.

>I never said he was an oil man, successful or otherwise. I claimed he bought
>his way into power using oil money, supplied by his big oil man friends.
>Jesus Christ! You admit that he couldn't even run an oil operation, yet you
>voted him into power.

He made his way into power with money from thosands upon thousands of
small contributors. His campaigns strongest attribute was its power to
attract donor such as myself who could only give small amounts.

PAPA DOC

Dr Oddness Kiltroll

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John Malcolm wrote:

> Holocaust denier? Nope!

Lier.

Dr Oddness Kiltroll

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Ya gotta ask yerself...

What organization, or pathetic, maladjusted mindset, could clumsily continue to
act as pseudo-agent provocature, in this case, attempting to place the blame
EXACTLY where it should not reside...

<stompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstompstomp>

The Goose Stepping Fools.

Thats Who...

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You NAZI's are a bunch of bedwetters....

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But you already know that....

John Malcolm scrawled, with some help from a script:

Dr Oddness Kiltroll

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John Malcolm wrote:

> Nice rant! Unfortunately it's just that.... a rant. You lot don't seem to be
> able to be open minded enough to have a debate without getting offensive.

You have to post something worthy of debate to illicite thoughtful, nonabusive
responses. Show some respect for the subject matter, and you'll receive whet you
want.

If you poke a stick in the hornets nest...

You get stung.

Dontcha, Adolph...

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Dr Oddness Kiltroll

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[irrational, juvenile, and just plain nonsensical SPEW snipped, for fun and
profit]


> You want to stop ranting and start asking yourself some serious questions
> about why MOST of the population of the planet earth hates and despises the
> USA.

Well, firstly they dont. Second, we're rich, and you're not, thirdly, they dont,
fourthly, we are superior, socially, and your not, fithly, they dont, sixthly,
we know how to live and you dont...

I get your picture, do you get mine?

How come you're so opinionated, and stupid?

Do you work at this, or does it come naturally?

<as an aside, more than half of the world doesnt know the USA exists. Many of
those that do, dont know the truth about us, lastly, those {like yourself}, who
are free to avail themselves of all the info out there, are free to choose whats
they want to beleive, as a function of how that want to view themselves. Your
'liberal', right?>

Why are you so misinformed?

...


Dr Oddness Kiltroll

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Your an ignorant jackass.

Thats your right.

<donkeysnort>

John Malcolm wrote:

> "PAPADOC" <PAP...@jimbobs.drive.by> dribbled in message
> news:3d6a33a9...@news.west.cox.net...
> > You are an idiot because of a variety of things but the simplest thing
> > to point out is just exactly why any Oil Man wants more oil in the
> > market right now. In the ground it appreciates...currently in the US
> > market Oil is priced waaaay below what it sold for in 1978. Absolutely
> > no reason to go thru all of this trouble for more oil.
> >
>
> Perhaps to safeguard further oil reserves?

You mean the big ones, in Soviet Central Asia, the Gulf of Mexico, and the
Alaksan area, or the played out ones in the ME?

<chuckle>

>
> > If a person wanted to make more money right now on Russian Oil fields
> > it would have been much much simpler to simply have a terrorist attack
> > against Saudi and Iraq oil fields. Kill production there and zoom
> > price of oil goes up.
> >
>
> I think we're going to have a terrorist attack in that area between November
> and the beginning of 2003.... only it's going to be called, euphemistically,
> a "regime change", and the guys killing civilians in "unfortunate collateral
> damage" will once again be flying the stars and stripes.

You can call it Martians from Space, if you want.

Ask the average Afghani whether he wants Amers around. You'd be surprised..

> > Your basic premise is incorrect....course Im sure that wont stop you
> > since its easier to understand a tin foil beenie theory of the CIA and
> > Mossad runing planes into towers to give us reason to attack
> > countries. Another item you havent considered is if George Bush is as
> > crazy as you think he is certainly he wouldnt need an excuse to
> > attack. Its not like anyone in the world can stop us were we to decide
> > to go to war for the heck of it.
> >
>
> You don't get it do you. Whether anyone in the US administration was "in on
> it" isn't really the point. As you keep reminding me.... it's just theory.

They werent, and it aint...

>
> Theories should be discussed. At best the US government and it's agencies
> are guilty of criminal negligence.

And you're the person who can make such a final pronouncement? How much time
have you spent an Belvior? Or the other spooky places?

> I didn't claim George Bush was crazy. I
> think he's pigshit thick.

Ya. MBA, made a million on his own, and is now the Prez.

Whats on your resume, jasper, king of the collegiate Fosters Drinking contest?

Maybe you're mr mensa himself. You hide it well, tho...


> He DOES need excuses to go to war with other
> countries... excuses to the American electorate and the mothers and fathers
> of the young people he's about to send overseas.

He needs reasons. He has them.

> I'd hate to die in a
> foreign land just because some war-dodging cokehead daddy's boy decided he
> didn't like the leadership of that country.

So, Saddam is your hero, and all this came to be AFTER GWB came into power...

> But Saddam interferes with peace
> in the region, I hear you bleat.

He does.

> So do you!

No, we dont. Scrape out the cement, you poor trolll...

> He wants/has weapons of mass
> destruction, you whine.

He does.

> So do you, and you've used them!

Yes, and good thing, that. Beats 10 million dead Japanese. No, you say? I guess
your a racist too? What is it you have against the Japanese (except that they
should go killing millions, for years, without expecting to be stopped,
eventually...)

> He's nasty to the
> poor Kurds, you blubber.

Your doing the blubber, me selfimportant...

> So is Turkey, a NATO ally, and let's not forget how
> the US set-up the Kurds for a beating at the end of Desert Storm

The Kurds are doing quite well. Thanks. I could tell you about it, but then I'd
have to...

But, just so you have a few facts: Iraq gas 17 Regular Army Divs. 11 are in the
N, just S of (NOT IN) the Kurdish controlled area. Why is this?

Could it be because the Kurds are somewhat more capable than you're aware
(because we've been helping, a bit...)?

> . He's
> gassed his own people, you whimper. So have you! The FBI has finally
> conceded to Congress that it used pyrotechnic tear gas canisters at Waco....
> only 80 people burned to death as a result.... only 24 of them were
> children.

You're an ass. Thius was known in 94. ALL TEAR GAS is created by combustion.
Koreshs' folks imolated thenselves. Your idiotic opinions not with standing.

No, really...

>
> > Finally to call George Bush and oil man is to ignore the fact that he
> > never had a successful oil operation. He was a much better Baseball
> > Team owner...hey maybe the CIA and Mossad ran those planes into the
> > buildings so he could get better Picks. Thats it...better picks for
> > the Texas Rangers.
> >
>
> I never said he was an oil man, successful or otherwise. I claimed he bought
> his way into power using oil money, supplied by his big oil man friends.

What the fuck does that MEAN. Explain how one 'buys ones way into power..."

>
> Jesus Christ! You admit that he couldn't even run an oil operation, yet you
> voted him into power.

He was an oil man, but oil is much more costly in Texas, than in other places.
Its about economics, which, I am sure you
1. Are woefully ignorant, regarding
2. You hate in any case.

> Can I respectfully suggest that we end this conversation shortly.

Why? I like annoying idiots? You SEEM to have this same avocation. Your just not
good at it. And you dont know enough to determine who the idiot is.

(clue:mirror)

> We all
> have pretty strong views and opinions on the matter, and are very unlikely
> to change each others minds. I'm not suggesting I get the last word or
> anything, just that I've become guilty of dragging the forum down with
> non-flight-sim related posts, as I accused others of doing. It's easy to get
> dragged in.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Wa! Waa! gasp, snortle,
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
<ggg>
Shut the fuck up you bellicose ignoramous. Come to spar, or get the fuck outa
the ring...

DrOk

Dusty Rhodes

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Thats it...better picks for
> the Texas Rangers.
>
> PAPA DOC
>

God knows they need em right now.

Dusty Rhodes


John Malcolm

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And you are an arse monger, a gay bum stuffing arse bandit and a queerhawk,
or at least you will be when you grow up a bit and reach the age of consent

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John Malcolm

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Or Amerika Uber Alles :)

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PAPADOC

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You Nazi fucks are worthless sacks of shit that should kill youselves
at your earliest convience.

PAPA DOC

>Or Amerika Uber Alles :)
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

Adam Banks

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>Shut the fuck up you bellicose ignoramous. Come to spar, or get the fuck outa
>the ring...

<picky>Sorry to mess with your extremely erudite and eloquent post,
but it's "ignoramus".</picky>

*Please* someone release a new flight sim SOON! I've enjoyed this
bar-room banter for a while, but it's getting just a little repetitive
now.

Adamski.

Dr Oddness Killtroll

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Adam Banks wrote:

> >Shut the fuck up you bellicose ignoramous. Come to spar, or get the fuck outa
> >the ring...
>
> <picky>Sorry to mess with your extremely erudite and eloquent post,
> but it's "ignoramus".</picky>

I am allergic to vowels. Especially the pesky 'UUU'. This compels me to use it
unecessarily, in international discourse, as my Brit freinds are prone to the same
behavior. Only its legal over there.

I wont go on about spelling correction being the last refuge of...

Dont complain that this makes no sense, as this is usenet.

Additionally, there were some gems in my post, for those who decriminate enough...

TTFN

Scharmers

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PAP...@jimbobs.drive.by (PAPADOC) wrote in message news:<3d6a99bc...@news.west.cox.net>...

> You are a fucking idiot but as the Nazi's proved in 1935 if not
> challenged idiots have a way of getting power. Soooo.
>
>>I never said he was an oil man, successful or otherwise. I claimed
he bought
>>his way into power using oil money, supplied by his big oil man
friends.
>>Jesus Christ! You admit that he couldn't even run an oil operation,
yet you
>>voted him into power.

>He made his way into power with money from thosands upon thousands of
>small contributors. His campaigns strongest attribute was its power
to
>attract donor such as myself who could only give small amounts.

Swallow another of Rush's loads there, PD. Bush got into power
through crooked corporate money and Florida nepotism. He bought his
way into office. His idiotic "tax break" dumped our economy into a
redeficit tailspin. I say that Bush would have prayed for something
like 9/11 to take our minds off of his incompetence, except for the
fact that he is too stupid on his own to take advantage of the
opportunity.

Ah, hell. Jello said it better than me:

Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States
We have a problem.
The companies want something done about this sluggish
world economic situation
Profits have been running a little thin lately
and we need to stimulate some growth
Now we know
there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming
around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble
for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job
It's about time we did something constructive with these people
We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious
get-together-
And start another war
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro
Napalm
People running down the road, skin on fire
The Soviets seem up for it:
The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.
Hell, Afghanistan's no fun
So whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population
Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you
can.
We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use
an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way
Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?
We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story
in the Middle East-we need that oil
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad
didn't even show up. I tell ya
That man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that
one
Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG
The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper
We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan
this right.
Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls
Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer
they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,
they wouldn't even know what it looked like
So how 'bout it? Look-WAR IS MONEY.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless
we get our bomb factories up to full production
the whole economy is going to collapse
The Soviets are in the same boat.
We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?
That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.

Dr Oddness Killtroll

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PAPADOC wrote:

> ...just as the French in general are too fucking stupid to breathing the same
> air as the rest
> of us.

You, sir, are a genius.

<S!>

DrOk

[snip rest, as this passage deserves exclusive notice]

Martinho

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all that and more beeg boy
and im steel twice they man you you are

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John Malcolm

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"Scharmers" <scha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That about sums it up.


John Malcolm

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Speak English wee baws

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John Malcolm

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"Scharmers" <scha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That about sums it up.


John Malcolm

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> PAPADOC wrote:
>
> > ...just as the French in general are too fucking stupid to breathing the
same
> > air as the rest
> > of us.
>

What type of name is Pierre LeGrand anyway?


Dr Oddness Killtroll

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John Malcolm wrote:

Its an American Name, silly boy.
Now, stay away fwom the stweet, bigw cawws miwght smwite you...


Dr Oddness Killtroll

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Schmarmy baby, you need to return to the increased dosage...

;)

DrOk

PAPADOC

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Aug 27, 2002, 5:26:50 PM8/27/02
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Oh gee you are a fucking genius....

Just as I pointed out to those scum sucking French Surrender Monkies
at Vivendi when I wrote those fucks about their new movie attacking my
country my Family is from solid French Stock, grandfather won the
Croix De Guerre in WW1, Father French FireFighter in Paris,
Grandmother and Grandfather ran a Bar on Rue St. Germain in Paris. Any
other questions...? I call them like I see them. The French worry more
about their precious ego than about who saves their worthless asses
more than anyone else.

One day the French people should stage another revolt and get some
balls back. But Im not holding my breath given how popular that book
about the hoax of 9/11.

PAPA DOC

>What type of name is Pierre LeGrand anyway?
>
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

PAPADOC

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Sharmers try and not spend too much time discussing economics or
politics....it takes away from your aura of invincibility.

PAPA DOC

>Swallow another of Rush's loads there, PD. Bush got into power
>through crooked corporate money and Florida nepotism. He bought his
>way into office. His idiotic "tax break" dumped our economy into a
>redeficit tailspin. I say that Bush would have prayed for something
>like 9/11 to take our minds off of his incompetence, except for the
>fact that he is too stupid on his own to take advantage of the
>opportunity.
>

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand

PAPADOC

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Aug 27, 2002, 5:33:43 PM8/27/02
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No scumsucking surrender monkey it does NOT sum it up. It only sums up
the shallowness of your argument.

>That about sums it up.

You have no response to the facts about 9/11.

1. Witnesses that saw the airplane hit the pentagon
2. What happened to the passengers
3. How does one cover up a plot as large as this when so many would
have so much to gain by exposing it.
4. Exactly when did the French shit all of their brains and balls out
of their assholes. I am sorry to paint the entire french population
with this given my name but the book is a best seller.
5. Witnesses on board describe Middle Eastern hijackers.
6. Closed circuit TV showing ATTA and that other Towel Head going thru
security.

So on and so forth.