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M. Scott Velez

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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What is the difference between these two?

Scott

Patrick Thompson

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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M. Scott Velez wrote:
>
> What is the difference between these two?
>
> Scott
My understanding is that Super EF2000 was essentially the DOS versions
of EF2000 and Tactcom that could run under Win95. EF2000 V2.0 is
EF2000, Tactcom and the added Graqphics+ that runs in Win95 or a Win95
DOS box if you using Graphics+ option. Graphics+ is the game ported to
3D cards such as the 3Dfx. If you don't have a 3D card I think it's
essentially the same as Super EF2000. If you already have the DOS
versions of EF2000 and Tactcom you will be able to get the Graphics+
patch from DiD for free. However you will have to run this in a DOS box
under Win95. Why, I don't know. Anyway, this is how I understand it.
I'm sure others can add their 2 cents worth or correct me. I already
have EF2000 and Tactcom and, like the rest in this situation, patiently
:-( waiting for DiD to release the Graphics+ patch so I can run out and
buy a Monster 3D board. I really hope the Graphics+ version is worth
all the hype it's generated.

Regards, Pat

Tony Rae

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Jun 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/10/97
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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 07:57:26 -0700, ve...@bc.sympatico.ca (M. Scott
Velez) wrote:

>What is the difference between these two?

A couple of differences come to mind, though I'm sure there are
others.

EF2000 V2.0
Is a Dos based program.
Will support 3DFX video cards. (this is the big one for me)
Bug fixes.

Super EF2000
Runs in Windows 95 only.
Is probably slower than the Dos version.
Does not support 3DFX.

Tony

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Rich Clark

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 07:57:26 -0700, ve...@bc.sympatico.ca (M. Scott
Velez) wrote:

>What is the difference between these two?


SuperEF2000 is the Win95 version of EF2000/Tactcom. Super was never
released in North America, but was available through some sources as
an import.

EF2000 Version2 is the name of a package being released in North
America through Ocean that includes all of the EF DOS products --
EF2000, Tactcom, Graphics+ -- as well as the Win95 version, SuperEF.
Plus a strategy guide.

Version 2 is what to buy. Look for it in early July, probably.

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Remove '-'s before replying (Jeff)

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Jun 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/11/97
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On Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:30:06 -0700, Patrick Thompson
<pmth...@kodak.com> wrote:

>M. Scott Velez wrote:
>>
>> What is the difference between these two?
>>

Everything (except your post :P) that I have read here says that EF2K
v2.0 does not support 3dfx. Only the DOS version of EF2K with the
Tatcom patch will work with the patch. I wish you were right because
online gaming is lots easier in Win95 and I would like to see EF2K
become more multiplayer friendly.

Kaiserzo

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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> Everything (except your post :P) that I have read here says that EF2K
> v2.0 does not support 3dfx. Only the DOS version of EF2K with the
> Tatcom patch will work with the patch. I wish you were right because
> online gaming is lots easier in Win95 and I would like to see EF2K
> become more multiplayer friendly.

WHOA! I just spend an hour talking to pilots on KALI's Flight Server,
and the common concensus for people who do not own the game, but who do
have a 3DFX card, was to wait for the EF2000 V2, which would have the
original game, the Tatcom thing, AND THE 3DFX PATCH!!!! Is this
wrong???
KZ

CRASH

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Jun 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/13/97
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Sigh ..... EF2000 Version 2.0 will include:

-EF2000 - DOS
-TACTCOM - DOS
-SUPER EF - WIN 95
-Graphics + - DOS
-A rather extensive manual
-An abbreviated version of the SimTech Strategy Guide

Graphics plus will only, ONLY , work with the DOS EF/TACTCOM pair. BUT,
when you add the Graphics + (3DFX and Rendition) patch, it must run these
DOS based programs through WIN 95.

Does that clear it up?
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Rhino

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Jun 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/13/97
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CRASH <*cre...@value.net*> wrote in article
<01bc7794$0a609c20$5b0115d1@crash>...


> Sigh ..... EF2000 Version 2.0 will include:
>
> -EF2000 - DOS
> -TACTCOM - DOS
> -SUPER EF - WIN 95
> -Graphics + - DOS
> -A rather extensive manual
> -An abbreviated version of the SimTech Strategy Guide
>
> Graphics plus will only, ONLY , work with the DOS EF/TACTCOM pair. BUT,
> when you add the Graphics + (3DFX and Rendition) patch, it must run these
> DOS based programs through WIN 95.
>
> Does that clear it up?

Could you repeat that?

CRASH

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Jun 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/14/97
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Rhino <babi...@pacbell.netXNOSPAM> wrote in article
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-Graphics + - DOS ...

Ah, nevermind ........... ;-)

bu...@firstnethou.com

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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In article <01bc780d$8164b4e0$1fa1abce@rhino> "Rhino" <babi...@pacbell.netXNOSPAM> writes:
>From: "Rhino" <babi...@pacbell.netXNOSPAM>
>Subject: Re: Super EF2000 or EF2000 V2.0
>Date: 13 Jun 1997 15:20:07 GMT

>CRASH <*cre...@value.net*> wrote in article
><01bc7794$0a609c20$5b0115d1@crash>...
>> Sigh ..... EF2000 Version 2.0 will include:

<snip>

>> -SUPER EF - WIN 95
>> -Graphics + - DOS

<snip>



>> Graphics plus will only, ONLY , work with the DOS EF/TACTCOM pair. BUT,
>> when you add the Graphics + (3DFX and Rendition) patch, it must run these
>> DOS based programs through WIN 95.

Then G+ is a Win95 product. This "Dos Window" crap is really getting old. If
it runs through Win95 then it a Windows based program REGARDLSS of how or what
it uses to run. If you are IN WINDOWS 95 in a DOS window, then you are in are
in Windows 95. MS-DOS is totally seperate from Win95. Lets try and explain it
that way.....

Bubba

Digital Image

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Jun 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/17/97
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>
> What is the difference between these two?
>
> Scott

EF2000v2.0 is a package that CONTAINS SuperEF2000, along with TACTCOM,
Graphics+ and a section of Sim-Tech's Strategy Guide.

Carl Jackson, DID


CRASH

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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Olaf Scherdin <sche...@flensburg.netsurf.de> wrote in article
<SLbqzMyi...@flensburg.netsurf.de>...
> In article <01bc7890$566ae100$580115d1@crash>,


> "CRASH" <*cre...@value.net*> wrote:
>
> >Sigh ..... EF2000 Version 2.0 will include:
> >

> > -EF2000 - DOS
> > -TACTCOM - DOS

> > -SUPER EF - WIN 95

> > -Graphics + - DOS ...
>
> Not true. Since G+ requires WIN 95 EF2k is no longer a DOS game. period.

Try to run it with out DOS EF/TACTCOM. If I had put G+ was WIN 95, people
would think it was used with SUPER EF for WIN 95 ... it does not. You will
need a DOS box to run it, yes, but it is an add on for the DOS version of
the game.

Jason Reineri

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Jun 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/20/97
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>
>Not true. Since G+ requires WIN 95 EF2k is no longer a DOS game. period.
>

Not true. The game is not a native Win95 program. It was not
programmed in Win32, period. It was compiled as a DOS executable.
This makes it a DOS game. If you have massive amounts of RAM it WILL
run in DOS mode. If you don't you have to run through Win95 to take
advantage of the Win95 virtual memory.

Jason Reineri


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Jason Reineri

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Jun 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/21/97
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>> Not true. Since G+ requires WIN 95 EF2k is no longer a DOS game. period.
>

>Try to run it with out DOS EF/TACTCOM. If I had put G+ was WIN 95, people
>would think it was used with SUPER EF for WIN 95 ... it does not. You will
>need a DOS box to run it, yes, but it is an add on for the DOS version of
>the game.
>--

I guess what you would call it depends on your definition of a Win95
game. Since the game was compiled with a DOS compiler, I'll call it
DOS. I won't call it Win95 unless it's a native Win95 program
compiled in Win32 code.

Jason Reineri

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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>>If you have massive amounts of RAM it WILL run in DOS mode.

>you forgot to enable the sarcasm marker :)

Oops. :). Better late than never?

Jason Reineri


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// Kennesaw State University
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//
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Bubba Wolford

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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> > Not true. Since G+ requires WIN 95 EF2k is no longer a DOS game.
period.

> Try to run it with out DOS EF/TACTCOM. If I had put G+ was WIN 95, people
> would think it was used with SUPER EF for WIN 95 ... it does not. You
will
> need a DOS box to run it, yes, but it is an add on for the DOS version of
> the game.

> "CRASH"


Your language must be linguistics....

Bubba


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