Warbirds (previous CK) v.94 bugs list
CHAN Lancelot the Jedi
propeller sound, clouds, improved color and shadows!
But also, there is a very big problem which is the gear cannot reduce your
speed and there is no external view! Oh, my! How can I dive with this???
DOOMINATOR
Mike Teague
: Hello. I'm glad that .94 has made so many improvements. Realistic
: DOOMINATOR
Not to mention the game isn't working...
--
Mike Teague
yng...@teleport.com
http://www.teleport.com/~yngwie
boo...@cris.com
>: DOOMINATOR
It's working... ask the many,many people that waited up for us last
nite and flew all night (we didn't get home till 3-4AM ;)
help me help you get it running by telling me what it isn't doing for
you.
Boomer
Mike Teague
: CHAN Lancelot the Jedi (lanc...@station.net) wrote:
: : Hello. I'm glad that .94 has made so many improvements. Realistic
: : propeller sound, clouds, improved color and shadows!
: : But also, there is a very big problem which is the gear cannot reduce your
: : speed and there is no external view! Oh, my! How can I dive with this???
: : DOOMINATOR
: Not to mention the game isn't working...
Also, I think the clouds can go...
I've lost 5-7 fps in .94..
Greg Cisko
>Whith regard to the 38, it definatly feels different. I guess you
>pulled some teeth. However ALL of the AC have a sluggishness to them i
>never noticed b4. The F4 while better still seems slow, and the P-51 I
I'm sorry, but the F4 does not seem slow to me. In fact last night I believe
I climbed and reached 300knts *MUCH* quicker than before. Dives went *WAY*
over 450knts very quickly. So while I am not sure what you mean by "The F4
while better still seems slow...", it seemed as fast if not faster than before.
Acceleration seemed dramaticly improved too. I haven't really checked "energy
bleed" yet. But my impression was that EB was much improved.
>am having trouble rolling let alone turning. I have played with all of
>them for quite some tie last night and I am having a hard time
>understanding how these can be correct.
Maybe you are too used to AOE or AOTP? :-)
>
> Now, I am no Warbird Pilot, so I do not understand how they feel at
>all, but all of them seem to have gone thru "control castration". Even
>the zero now seems to hamdle like a lead weight.
I personaly noticed no control changes that were joystick/gameport related.
>
>I am wondering if this could be my stick settings? Did you gentlemen
>make any changes in the Joystick routines?? This could account for my
>problems. What are the recommennded stick settigns for a P-90 machine?
Did you re-calibrate? I didn't need to, but you never know.
>
>I would just like to fly aicraft not lead weights.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>
>
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>Michael Weber
>Gryf / Gryffon XO,<VMF-214>
Sorry gryf... Just joking about AOE :-)
jaguar
PURPLE F4U
<CO 317th Fighting Circus>
"We have the last laugh"
>
>Visit the VMF-214 Page at HTTP:/llama.jpl.nasa.gov/vmf214/index.htm
>"it is a darn poor mind that can think of only one way to spell a word" Thomas Jefferson
>
Michael Weber
>>am having trouble rolling let alone turning. I have played with all of
>>them for quite some tie last night and I am having a hard time
>>understanding how these can be correct.
>Maybe you are too used to AOE or AOTP? :-)
Ouch! <Groans and falls out of chair, mortally wounded>
As a matter of fact I had recalibrated. No help. I then tried some of
the different comport settings. WOW! what a difference. I no longer
feel like I am flying thru motor oil.
As for AOE or any others, SWOTL is about the only WWII flight Sim I
Still have, and I have not played THAT in 2 years or so.
I fly Warbirds now for the company of other like minded pilots. It is
too much fun talking to each other. While flying is a blast, flying
and socializing is even more fun.
THanks fro the suggestions on the calibration.
Take care,
Michael Weber
Gryf / Gryffon XO,<VMF-214>
Visit the VMF-214 Page at HTTP:/llama.jpl.nasa.gov/vmf214/index.htm
Michael Weber
>Now this was overheard while I was pushing pixels around to make your
>computer screen look suspiciously like the cockpit of a B-17 so take
>it for what it's worth...
Looking for the Buff! :-)
> I was sitting close to Pyro when he was working on the gear drag
>portion of the model (think it was the 38.. coulda been the zeke).
>When HT was flying it around testing it (just before we put .94 up),
>he made the comment he thought something was wrong.. HT and Pyro
>looked over the numbers, model, etc and both came to the agreement it
>was, in fact, correct.
>Now.. the question is, how can you adapt your previous dive procedure
>to the new model. I would suggest trying a couple of things:
>1) don't initiate an extremely STEEP dive. For 38's, even test pilots
>hardly exceeded a 30 degree dive. Zeros were notorious for breaking
>apart so I doubt the dived very steep at all.. at least more than once
>;)
>2) don't enter a dive at 300ias to begin with. burn off some airspeed
>before entering the dive.
>3). Flaps still work as drag inducing devices... but it won't be long
>before you'll start tearing em off at excessive speeds ;)
Whoa, Now we are gonna nned dive brakes when that happens.
>Boomer
Boomer,
Whith regard to the 38, it definatly feels different. I guess you
pulled some teeth. However ALL of the AC have a sluggishness to them i
never noticed b4. The F4 while better still seems slow, and the P-51 I
am having trouble rolling let alone turning. I have played with all of
them for quite some tie last night and I am having a hard time
understanding how these can be correct.
Now, I am no Warbird Pilot, so I do not understand how they feel at
all, but all of them seem to have gone thru "control castration". Even
the zero now seems to hamdle like a lead weight.
I am wondering if this could be my stick settings? Did you gentlemen
make any changes in the Joystick routines?? This could account for my
problems. What are the recommennded stick settigns for a P-90 machine?
I would just like to fly aicraft not lead weights.
Thanks for your help,
Grant
>
>I am wondering if this could be my stick settings? Did you gentlemen
>make any changes in the Joystick routines?? This could account for my
>problems. What are the recommennded stick settigns for a P-90 machine?
>
>I would just like to fly aicraft not lead weights.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>
>Michael Weber
>Gryf / Gryffon XO,<VMF-214>
I had same thing occur once before. Try recalibrating your stick and
see if that helps. Had a P38 that turned like P39 :)
--)Crash---
Musketeers
boo...@cris.com
>Whith regard to the 38, it definatly feels different. I guess you
>pulled some teeth. However ALL of the AC have a sluggishness to them i
>never noticed b4. The F4 while better still seems slow, and the P-51 I
>am having trouble rolling let alone turning. I have played with all of
>them for quite some tie last night and I am having a hard time
>understanding how these can be correct.
> Now, I am no Warbird Pilot, so I do not understand how they feel at
>all, but all of them seem to have gone thru "control castration". Even
>the zero now seems to hamdle like a lead weight.
>I am wondering if this could be my stick settings? Did you gentlemen
>make any changes in the Joystick routines?? This could account for my
>problems. What are the recommennded stick settigns for a P-90 machine?
>I would just like to fly aicraft not lead weights.
>Thanks for your help,
As far as control settings, personally I would recomment NOT scaling
your stick in any way. But that is just my personal pref.
The birds are being tweaked for sure. Pyro has been working on em
constantly. I don't know specifically what has been 'upped' and what
has been 'trimmed'
As an artist (and therefore somewhat knowledgable about visual
representation), what I DO know is our current terrain and the colors
used do give a perception of 'sluggishness'. There is somewhat of a
monotony of color, and a flat, featureless quality to the terrain that
tends to 'slow' things down, e.g. there isn't much to reinforce the
sense of movement.. (no triangular polys on the ground like in .91,
etc.) Someone said it felt like the planes were 'floating'. However,
go to the race track (NW of 8) and/or slalom thru the palm trees close
to ground.. Now tell me they're sluggish ;)
Hoefully, it won't be long before we'll get our beloved countoured
terrain back. We've got some major horsepower working on it. Then, I
think you'll see that (perception of) movement again ;)
Boomer
Mike Dawson
>
>
>I fly Warbirds now for the company of other like minded pilots. It is
>too much fun talking to each other. While flying is a blast, flying
>and socializing is even more fun.
>
>
Well, I'm a WB/CK fanatic myself. I spend far too much time on-line. But you
know... I draw the line at claiming I'm "socializing" when playing WB. <G>
Cool games like WarBirds, internet, etc. are taking a big cut out of what
should be my real "social" life. Oh, well... at least I'm having fun.
--
Mike "Ajax" Dawson
e-mail: daw...@ccnet.com
Mike_...@cc.chiron.com
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Michael Fletcher
> I had same thing occur once before. Try recalibrating your stick and
>see if that helps. Had a P38 that turned like P39 :)
>
>
>--)Crash---
>Musketeers
>
No that just you Crash. All your planes turn like a P39. Its not your
joystick at all.
-)-Fletch----- / -)-"that other guy"----
Julian Anderson
CJ Smut Martin
Julian Anderson <Jul...@jrca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Yawn......
Sorry that we seem to be boring you...
Perhaps you should learn how to use a kill file.
Much as *you* may think so, this is not the Julian Anderson Newsgroup.
So BITE ME
Smut
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