Can 747 land by itself?
Eric Grossman
Thanks
Eric
Tim Miser
movies where the stewardess lands the plane!!!
"Eric Grossman" <e...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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Renegade
proogram the landing at the proper airfield if not already accomplished,
configure the flaps and lower the landing gear. Good adult supervision of
the computers would be a good idea when 500 lives are at stake also. The
older 747-200 and -300 also have this capability along with 767,757 and 777.
It can be installed in a 737 also. Some airlines will deactivate this system
to save on maintenance cost. This is more so when the airline is made up of
a mish-mash of older cast-off airplanes from other airlines.
Regards
Renegade
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Bob Lionel
pilots don't like to use it because it isn't a very pleasant experience.
They used to have to do an autolanding every once in awhile when my dad was
in the AF and he always bitched about how it scared the hell out of him.
Bob Lionel
Richard Iachetta
says...
> If its anything like the autoland on the C-5 and C-141, it's there, but
> pilots don't like to use it because it isn't a very pleasant experience.
> They used to have to do an autolanding every once in awhile when my dad was
> in the AF and he always bitched about how it scared the hell out of him.
There is a whole thread in rec.aviation.simulators called something like
"Landing the heavies" where many have said autolands are routine in many
airliners and that pilots are required to perform a certain amount of their
landings as autolands to get comfortable with them (for when they really
need it in zero visability).
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Icehot
too, though, in case you need it (when might you need it?).. I think 1 out
of
3 landings should me manual... I don't remember where I found that out so
it could be wrong. I also believe that taken off can be accomplished through
autopilot too (just asked my dad who is an aircraft engineer)...
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Ron Hunt
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> Yes, it's possible... Using APR Autopilot. You're supposed to do manual
ones
> too, though, in case you need it (when might you need it?).. I think 1 out
> of
> 3 landings should me manual... I don't remember where I found that out so
> it could be wrong. I also believe that taken off can be accomplished
through
> autopilot too (just asked my dad who is an aircraft engineer)...
Auto landings can be done by many airliners including the 747. The aircraft
the runway and the crew must all be certified to do them. That having been
said, 99.9% of all landings are done manually. Auto-lands work well but are
very complicated and require much more vigilance by the crew. Many outside
factors can interfere with the system so unless the weather is bad enough
and the ILS area is protected the aircraft are hand flown from the Decision
Height to landing.
It's not a cost effective system. Aircraft qualifications usually require 1
autoland every 60 days. Crew qualifications require a great deal of initial
and recurrent training. Many airlines do not use the system because of the
cost of keeping everything certified and the fact that there are very few
days a year that the system would ever have to be used.
The newest technology is moving rapidly away from autopilot autoland systems
and towards Heads Up Displays. The new HUDs now available on 737's will
allow the crew to hand fly an approach to 300ft forward visibility on one
engine and consistently touch down on centerline within 126ft of the
predicted touchdown spot. Pilots have much greater control than autopilots
and it is much quicker to correct the flight path when your flying than to
intervene with an autopilot that's gone awry and play catch up!
Autopilots are never used for take-off. Most newer generation jets have auto
throttle systems that are used for take-off but the aircraft are always
flown manually for gear up and clean up. Autopilots are usually not to be
engaged below 1000ft after take-off.
Hope this answers your questions.
Ron Hunt
Icehot
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Tom
The stewardess had to land the Plane in auto Pilot.
but, programming the auto pilot was hard enough.
Tim Miser <timm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If they can, that kind of takes the realism out of all those airplane-type
> movies where the stewardess lands the plane!!!
>
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
makes you feel all warm and fuzzy thinking about it.
PAPA DOC]
vowing never again to ride in an airplane he aint flying.
>If its anything like the autoland on the C-5 and C-141, it's there, but
>pilots don't like to use it because it isn't a very pleasant experience.
>They used to have to do an autolanding every once in awhile when my dad was
>in the AF and he always bitched about how it scared the hell out of him.
>
>Bob Lionel
>
>Eric Grossman <e...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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>> I was just curious if the new 747's can land by themselves using
>autopilot?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
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>
>
David CL Francis
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>I was just curious if the new 747's can land by themselves using autopilot?
>
ILS available. Get 747-400 PS1 simulator and see for yourself but wait a
week or two until version 1.3 is out.
The ILS frequency has to be set of course and the aircraft directed to
intercept the localiser and the glide slope. The speed, undercarriage
and flaps have to be selected correctly.
The autopilot will have to be disengaged before taxiing off the runway
though as it will continue to track the centreline after touhcdown.
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Tom <atki...@icon.co.za> wrote in message
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Rob Coppock
Speaking with one of the Boeing Engineers years ago he stated that the
original autoland systems were so accurate they would actually put the
wheels on the runway in exactly the same place every landing... since this
caused excessive wear on a single portion of the runway a small amount of
"tolerance" was later factored into the autoland system to avoid creating
craters in the runways..
Rob
Eric Grossman <e...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> I was just curious if the new 747's can land by themselves using
autopilot?
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric
>
>
>
Sunny
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