Star Control 3 Help (Spoilers)
Jeffrey Crawford
First, a more general game question: How does one build ships at a decent
rate?? I am past day 100 and almost no ships are complete. Is there a way to
speed it up - I set star base to max? I need to replenish my fleet..
How does one get the translation device for the Daktaklakpak? I got it
from human scientists in one game but I didn't save it. When I loaded to a
previous game, I never got it...
Also, does anyone know what's up with the Orz? I can hardly understand
them :) and I assume they killed the Supox. I found the blasted Supox ship but
I was not able to question the Orz about it. I have not been able to do
anything further with the Supox mystery. Thanks...
Jon Velapoldi
Jeffrey Crawford (dri...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
: First, a more general game question: How does one build ships at a decent
Yeah, I second that one.. also for more spoilers (maybe I am just stupid)
but it seems taht I can't get ANYONE to join up with the 'league'.. I got
these weasel VUX wussies attacking the poor ol mycon, the mycon screaming
for blood, the syreen telling me that the arilou are evil, the orz saying
... um ... has anyone translated the orz yet?? I got some of it, but not
enough to make too much sense out of what they talk about..., I have the
Doogs just being stupid, I almost got a Dakpacksnackpack to almost
overheat about something dealing with ethics, but couldn't quite get that
to fully work (is it possible?) I got the ethics committee pissed off at
me cause the K'Tang are stupid and I told them so (okay, I didn't save
that portion of the game, but I did get some info out of them), I got some
interesting info about the harika plague and I THINK that the Crux is
fully behind it (at least that is what I gleaned from the K'Tang) but
don't know who to query about it, I found some other big blue race that
don't say much but everything they do say ends in a period, and well,
yhmm...
what can I do? are there any races in the game (like the exquivan or the
herald or the LK or Owa) that I can find??? BVy the way, I am reading
these names out of the manual in the ship section..
Hmm.. what else was there I wanted to ask about? Right now, I am just
wandering around I guess.. the VUX are pissing me off, the Ur-Quan and
Chmmr seem to be the 'best' allies. they seem to make the most fuel for
me (which is in VERY short supply right now) anyway, I dunno... I can't
find a good use for the utwig any more, which pisses me off...
has anyone noticed that there is a distressing lack of originality in the
ships in this game? many of the ships are just clones of each other...
Oh yeah, do you ever find anything about the Supox? were they destroyed
completely? or are they around somewhere near where the arilou said they
were (by the way, the arilou look terrible... give me cheesy cartoons any
day over most of these puppets, thought the chmmr, orz, and ktang are
pretty good)
anyway, this post is now long enough...
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Jon
Graduate Research-type person
Flight Dynamics and Control Laboratory
University of Maryland, College Park
Dude
Try and remember, this game is time driven. Things happen at specific time intervals.
> : First, a more general game question: How does one build ships at a decent
> : rate?? I am past day 100 and almost no ships are complete. Is there a way to
> : speed it up - I set star base to max? I need to replenish my fleet..
The only way to significantly increase ship building speed is to completely shut down
your factory, fuel depot, pod ship maker, and max out your ship meter; also, if your ore
and RU stores are increasing then you need to decrease their meters just enough to make
it efficient.
> : How does one get the translation device for the Daktaklakpak? I got it
> : from human scientists in one game but I didn't save it. When I loaded to a
> : previous game, I never got it...
Don't know the answer to this one. I've played it twice and eventually got it both times.
> : Also, does anyone know what's up with the Orz? I can hardly understand
> : them :) and I assume they killed the Supox. I found the blasted Supox ship but
> : I was not able to question the Orz about it. I have not been able to do
> : anything further with the Supox mystery. Thanks...
I am well into the game and have not found the answer to this one yet. In Starcon 2,
the Orz killed off the Androsynth because the Androsynth had made some kind of discovery.
> Yeah, I second that one.. also for more spoilers (maybe I am just stupid)
> but it seems taht I can't get ANYONE to join up with the 'league'.. I got
> these weasel VUX wussies attacking the poor ol mycon, the mycon screaming
> for blood, the syreen telling me that the arilou are evil, the orz saying
> ... um ... has anyone translated the orz yet?? I got some of it, but not
> enough to make too much sense out of what they talk about..., I have the
> Doogs just being stupid, I almost got a Dakpacksnackpack to almost
> overheat about something dealing with ethics, but couldn't quite get that
> to fully work (is it possible?) I got the ethics committee pissed off at
> me cause the K'Tang are stupid and I told them so (okay, I didn't save
> that portion of the game, but I did get some info out of them), I got some
> interesting info about the harika plague and I THINK that the Crux is
> fully behind it (at least that is what I gleaned from the K'Tang) but
> don't know who to query about it, I found some other big blue race that
> don't say much but everything they do say ends in a period, and well,
> yhmm...
I finally got several Crux and some non-Crux aliens to join by performing
various tasks, most of which become available after a period of time has passed.
Aliens on my side so far are Doog(so far the best race and best ships), Claircontlar,
Harika/Yorn, Vyro-Ingo, and Xchagger.
> what can I do? are there any races in the game (like the exquivan or the
> herald or the LK or Owa) that I can find??? BVy the way, I am reading
> these names out of the manual in the ship section..
If you really want the location of these home worlds, then post another message
saying so and I will let you know.
> Hmm.. what else was there I wanted to ask about? Right now, I am just
> wandering around I guess.. the VUX are pissing me off, the Ur-Quan and
> Chmmr seem to be the 'best' allies. they seem to make the most fuel for
> me (which is in VERY short supply right now) anyway, I dunno... I can't
> find a good use for the utwig any more, which pisses me off...
>
> has anyone noticed that there is a distressing lack of originality in the
> ships in this game? many of the ships are just clones of each other...
>
> Oh yeah, do you ever find anything about the Supox? were they destroyed
> completely? or are they around somewhere near where the arilou said they
> were (by the way, the arilou look terrible... give me cheesy cartoons any
> day over most of these puppets, thought the chmmr, orz, and ktang are
> pretty good)
Try saving a game and then speeding up time to see if something happens.
I saw a University of Texas tag line somewhere on one of these messages.
!!!GO 'HORNS!!!
Jeffrey M Colletti
Star Control 3 spoilers follow
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You probably need to wait for several timed events to happen in order to
get some races to join you. I'm not sure exactly what, but I will when I
replay the game.
The only Crux race that hasn't joined me is the K'tang.
To enlist the Harika/Yorn, you need to find out about the virus from
somewhere, and then find the XChagger homeworld (at Zosma). Once you
have spoken to the XChaggers (no, not the cow), you will get a serum,
but don't use it. go to the harika and keep telling them you can't use
it, and they will send you some yorn to experiment on. You will make a
device, but you need to go back tothe XChagger to get containment
things. Then use the device, get free XChaggers, and once you have
cleansed both Harika/Yorn colonies, they will be your allies.
To get the Doog to join you, find out about their debts (again, I forget
how), and tell them you will pay them off. You need 10000 per colony,
except for one which took 50000 for me. When you get ALL the colonies,
you will get the remaining ships floating around by themselves, and they
will "officially" become your ally (ie their picture appears on the
orbital view)
NOTE: Any Ur-Quan colonies you make will be useful for a time, but
eventually, every one besides the original settlement will become
Kohr-Ah, probably from a Dnyarri, but that is where I am stuck now. For
all I know, you might get them back later. Also, you will lose the Chmmr
for a time, and I am stuck trying to get something to get them back (I
can't find the mother ark thing for the Mmrnmmrm) If anyone knows how to
get past this, please email me.
There are a few others you can get, but I am running out of time, so
please email me if you think I can help...
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On Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:42:46 -0500, Dude <rwd...@concentric.net>
wrote:
>I finally got several Crux and some non-Crux aliens to join by performing
>various tasks, most of which become available after a period of time has passed.
>Aliens on my side so far are Doog(so far the best race and best ships), Claircontlar,
>Harika/Yorn, Vyro-Ingo, and Xchagger.
Ok, I got one question for you. How did you get the
Claircontlar?
*******************************ALERT************************************
[Note massive Claircontlar related spoilers follow. You have been
warned]
*******************************ALERT************************************
Ok, I have the cont rock, and I know where the queen is. I've talked
to the Lk, that annoying french ploxis, the spathi, the K'Tang, and
the Harika about them but Any time I try to talk to the Claircontlar
all I get is: Oh. No. Not. Again.
I don't have the option of telling them about their queen (the
first time I spoke to them I had the option and said it, but it had no
effect on them at all) anymore. Any thoughts? Am I just friggin
stupid and missing something?
Dude
One of the races (sorry, I can't remember which one and I erased all my
saved games) will tell you how. The method involves going to the Clair
colony that is in the system where you found the Conc rock. The planet
that you found the Conc rock on also is the planet where the Clair queen
is located. Tell the Concs that you are going to break the Conc rock
then go to the planet where their queen is located. The Clair will
follow you and find their queen. Then they will become your ally. When
you stop talking to the Clair the first time and start heading for the
queen's planet, they don't follow you immediately. The game clock has
to trip over to the next day before they start their chase. One more
tip, don't kill all the Dak's, you'll need them later. If they keep
attacking you and you have to kill them then avoid it by whenever you
enter a system with Snakpak's, wait until the game clock trips over to
the next day and they will sometimes come to you looking for info and
thereby avoid a fight.
Hope this helps:)
Sidney Beauchamp
Dude <rwd...@concentric.net> wrote:
some stuff deleted...
>
>I finally got several Crux and some non-Crux aliens to join by performing
>various tasks, most of which become available after a period of time has passed.
>Aliens on my side so far are Doog(so far the best race and best ships), Claircontlar,
>Harika/Yorn, Vyro-Ingo, and Xchagger.
>
I got problems with the Clairecontlar . The computer tells me I should talk to
them but they dont tall to me. I gave them a rock and I'm supposed to do
something with thiere queen, but for the life of me i can't find her/it. I
remember seeing it but where ???
The only other thing left do do is get on to the rainbow worlds but I think I
need to talk to the Claircontlar first. I got two thing a migees for anti mater
(scoop and containment) but the dont activate nor work. My tech team complains
they can get to the surface.
I also have some artifacs that i dont know what they do, a hindge of some
kind...
Oh, I all most forgot, the poor Mmrnmhrm, cant fix them, neither can fix the
Ultron.
Anyway, I hope you can at least help me with the Claircontlar, I probably be
able to go from there.
BTW, some people have complained of bugs, I only saw one, at one point I
received over a billion lading pods. I got landing pods gomming outa my ears,
any wierd stuff on your side ? It was the only one for me, at this point in time
anyway.
Thanks in advance.
Sidney.
jse...@aros.net
How do you get the Claircontlar and Viro-Ingo to join? I've conversed with
the enemy leader in Calliope 2, and have gone to all the Rainbow worlds. I
have the anti-matter scoop and containment, but I can't "use" the scoop at a
rainbow world, which means that I can't get the precursor stuff off the
Rainbow worlds.
I also go to Hypnus 2 (Chmmr) but the Chmmr have been wiped out by the crux
and I can't do anything to help them ("There is no sentient life on this
planet")
The only options I have when I speak with the Claircontlar are: "I'm gonna
bust your rock" or "I'm leaving with your Rock" -- I can't do anything else
with them.
I've spoken with the Lk, and gotten the Sun Device but can't remember where
I need to use this (seems that I had heard about it earlier in the game,
though.)
I have the Doogs and Harika on my side, though.
I can't find the Ploxis home or the K'Tang base (the K'Tang don't say
anything useful either.)
The Exquivan let me go on their planet and say I've passed their Mettle.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Chris DeNeve
Check with the spathi, the syreen, the k'tang, the daklaktakpak usually
you need to go back and check with a race again and they will give you
some help. Sometimes even if they hate you
Brad Pybus
jse...@aros.net wrote:
>
> How do you get the Claircontlar and Viro-Ingo to join? I've conversed with
You don't. You get the Viro-Ingro and the Vux to join. Remember, they both think your ugly. As
two halfs they have problems and they are mean and lazy and think other people are ugly (somebody
explains it to you). Do you have the two DNA sequences fused (I don't even remember where I found
them)? I fused the Vux and Vyro-Ingo DNA sequences but I don't know where to go from here to
actually join them.
> the enemy leader in Calliope 2, and have gone to all the Rainbow worlds. I
> have the anti-matter scoop and containment, but I can't "use" the scoop at a
> rainbow world, which means that I can't get the precursor stuff off the
> Rainbow worlds.
Go back to the Owe and they will give you a lander to land on the rainbow planets. You will find
some precursor thing on one planet and then you will find the Mother Ark unit to repair the
hmmrrrmmrrrr. Be sure to go to all the rainbow worlds to fill your containment grid.
> I also go to Hypnus 2 (Chmmr) but the Chmmr have been wiped out by the crux
> and I can't do anything to help them ("There is no sentient life on this
> planet")
See above for hmmrrrmrrr... The syreen will revive the chenjesu for you. Then use the sun device
to restore the chmmmr (I haven't done this last step because I can't get the sun device)
> The only options I have when I speak with the Claircontlar are: "I'm gonna
> bust your rock" or "I'm leaving with your Rock" -- I can't do anything else
> with them.
You want threaten them by busting the conk rock. Go the solar system where the queen is and then
threaten to bust the rock at the clair planet. Then run over the queen planet and wait for them to
follow you (takes a day). Then they will see their queen, etc...
> I've spoken with the Lk, and gotten the Sun Device but can't remember where
> I need to use this (seems that I had heard about it earlier in the game,
> though.)
The sun device hybridizes the hmmmrrrmmrr and the chenjesu. How did you get it?!?!!?? The LK told
me that I must trade the Eternal 1 Signal Deflector for it. I don't know where that is.
> I have the Doogs and Harika on my side, though.Did you get the green mycon as well?
> I can't find the Ploxis home or the K'Tang base (the K'Tang don't say
> anything useful either.)
I don't know where the Ploxis home is but the ploxis rebels are revealed later. The K'Tang will be
revealed if you follow these hints I'm giving you.
> The Exquivan let me go on their planet and say I've passed their Mettle.
Search the precursor ship there and get the datapack. Trade the data pack information with many
Daktaklakpak for tons of info.
If you can answer any of my questions in another message I qould greatly appreciate it as well.
Henri H. Arsenault
In article <NEWTNews.844668615.1702.jseeley@jason>, jse...@aros.net wrote:
> How do you get the Claircontlar and Viro-Ingo to join? I
>
The Viro-Ingo have to be joined with the Vux, and a DNA artifact for each
is required.
> The only options I have when I speak with the Claircontlar are: "I'm gonna
> bust your rock" or "I'm leaving with your Rock" -- I can't do anything else
> with them.
>
Go ahead and break the rock. They will pursue you to the end of the galaxy.
Keith G. Spencer
Henri H. Arsenault <ars...@phy.ulaval.ca> wrote in article
<arseno-0910...@132.203.250.22>...
> The Viro-Ingo have to be joined with the Vux, and a DNA artifact for each
> is required.
>
This, btw, is unnecessary to finish the game. I never completed this
task & still got to the (lame) ending.
Beaudoin
On Mon, 07 Oct 96 00:04:46, jse...@aros.net wrote:
> The only options I have when I speak with the Claircontlar are: "I'm gonna
>bust your rock" or "I'm leaving with your Rock" -- I can't do anything else
>with them.
Threaten to break it, and they will chase you. Go to the place where
their queen is and they follow you there.
> I've spoken with the Lk, and gotten the Sun Device but can't remember where
>I need to use this (seems that I had heard about it earlier in the game,
>though.)
Use it to re-hybridize the CHmmr and Mmrnmhrm
> I can't find the Ploxis home or the K'Tang base (the K'Tang don't say
>anything useful either.)
The Ploxis don't really have a home system. The Doog can tell you
where the K'Tang King Palace is.
> The Exquivan let me go on their planet and say I've passed their Mettle.
Good for you...
Chan Weng Yie
Daniel Haddon wrote:
> *** snip ***
Show it to the viro-ingo and they will join you. Then take one of their
ship into your fleet. Go to the Vux and send that Viro-Ingo ship to the
Vux Homeworld.
Henri H. Arsenault
> I've combined the arfifacts - but how do you get the actual races to
> combine?
>
Send a single Viro ship to the Vux planet.
DarkStar
But uh, this sucks because I can't fix the Mmrnmhrm. They's all busted
up. The human guy says that one of the rainbow worlds has the Mother
Ark control unit, which I guess will fix them, but I can't make the
scoop work. Somewhere someone says to me, get an Owa shuttle, but they
keep being neutral. How can I make them be cool and on my side? Thanx
sir.
DarkStar- Hey baby, wanna touch my Yorn?
Jeffrey M Colletti
Edward Tran wrote:
>
> If you go and talk with the Doog, they have an Anti-Matter Containment
> Field.
>
(snip)
> >
> > But uh, this sucks because I can't fix the Mmrnmhrm. They's all busted
> > up. The human guy says that one of the rainbow worlds has the Mother
> > Ark control unit, which I guess will fix them, but I can't make the
> > scoop work. Somewhere someone says to me, get an Owa shuttle, but they
> > keep being neutral. How can I make them be cool and on my side? Thanx
> > sir.
> >
> > DarkStar- Hey baby, wanna touch my Yorn?
> >
You can get the containment vessel from the Doog, but you still will not
be able to go to the rainbow worlds. You need to talk to the Spathi, who
will tell you (hopefully) that the Dak have been dumping on the worlds.
Then go to the Owa, who should give you a little ship. Now you can use
the scoop on all the rainbow worlds and collect anti-matter in your
container. I never got the Owa to join, but they are friendly. I got the
artifact that lets you build upgraded Owa ships; they just never
officially joined.
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If you go and talk with the Doog, they have an Anti-Matter Containment
Field.
DarkStar <meph...@abwam.com> wrote in article <32642E...@abwam.com>...
> Beaudoin wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Oct 96 00:04:46, jse...@aros.net wrote:
> >
> > > The only options I have when I speak with the Claircontlar are: "I'm
gonna
> > >bust your rock" or "I'm leaving with your Rock" -- I can't do anything
else
> > >with them.
> >
> > Threaten to break it, and they will chase you. Go to the place where
> > their queen is and they follow you there.
> >
> > > I've spoken with the Lk, and gotten the Sun Device but can't
remember where
> > >I need to use this (seems that I had heard about it earlier in the
game,
> > >though.)
> >
> > Use it to re-hybridize the CHmmr and Mmrnmhrm
> >
> > > I can't find the Ploxis home or the K'Tang base (the K'Tang don't
say
> > >anything useful either.)
> >
> > The Ploxis don't really have a home system. The Doog can tell you
> > where the K'Tang King Palace is.
> >
> > > The Exquivan let me go on their planet and say I've passed their
Mettle.
> >
> > Good for you...
>