Best Adventure Games of the 90s
Grafteran
Graft
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> What's on your list of all-time best adventure games from the 90s?
>
LYINCRYIN
Way too many of them in the early & mid 90s to even think of. Almost none
today.
Bob R
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>What's on your list of all-time best adventure games from the 90s?
'TEX MURPHY:Pandora Directive'!!!
and
'Sanitarium'!!!
Bob R
Erik Rodoga
10 Atlantis 1 / Amerzone
9 Broken Sword 1 & 2 / Prisoner of Ice
8 Dragonsphere / Space Quest 1 & 4
7 Dark Earth / Gabriel Knight 1 & 2
6 Lost Eden / Full Throttle
5 Sanitarium / Phantasmagoria 1
4 Riven
3 Amber
2 Obsidian
1 Zork Nemesis
Erik
Ashikaga
Yes, it's a list of how many games? :-D
> Erik
Ashikaga
Erik Rodoga
It is 19 games Ashikaga. Try counting them and you will find it is 19 games.
Ashikaga
> "Ashikaga" wrote...
> > "Erik Rodoga" wrote...
> > > My list of all-time best adventure games from the 90s are...
> > >
> > > 10 Atlantis 1 / Amerzone
> > > 9 Broken Sword 1 & 2 / Prisoner of Ice
> > > 8 Dragonsphere / Space Quest 1 & 4
> > > 7 Dark Earth / Gabriel Knight 1 & 2
> > > 6 Lost Eden / Full Throttle
> > > 5 Sanitarium / Phantasmagoria 1
> > > 4 Riven
> > > 3 Amber
> > > 2 Obsidian
> > > 1 Zork Nemesis
> >
> > Yes, it's a list of how many games? :-D
>
> It is 19 games Ashikaga. Try counting them and you will find it is 19
games.
Yes, but I also only have ten fingers.... ;-)
Anywayz, I mean what's the point of listing your favorite games from 10 to
1, if you have 19 games.... Wouldn't 19 to 1 be more natural? Just
curious. Maybe you have some explanation for that.
Ashikaga
Erik Rodoga
> "Erik Rodoga" wrote...
> > "Ashikaga" wrote...
> > > "Erik Rodoga" wrote...
> > > > My list of all-time best adventure games from the 90s are...
> > > >
> > > > 10 Atlantis 1 / Amerzone
> > > > 9 Broken Sword 1 & 2 / Prisoner of Ice
> > > > 8 Dragonsphere / Space Quest 1 & 4
> > > > 7 Dark Earth / Gabriel Knight 1 & 2
> > > > 6 Lost Eden / Full Throttle
> > > > 5 Sanitarium / Phantasmagoria 1
> > > > 4 Riven
> > > > 3 Amber
> > > > 2 Obsidian
> > > > 1 Zork Nemesis
> > >
> > > Yes, it's a list of how many games? :-D
> >
> > It is 19 games Ashikaga. Try counting them and you will find it is 19
> games.
>
> Yes, but I also only have ten fingers.... ;-)
But you do also have ten toes, don't you? Try using them too.
> Anywayz, I mean what's the point of listing your favorite games from 10 to
> 1, if you have 19 games.... Wouldn't 19 to 1 be more natural? Just
> curious. Maybe you have some explanation for that.
Of course I have.
What you looking at is in fact my Inverted Pyramid of Favorite Games which
you could abbrivate to IPFG if you want to.
The games listed at number 10 is games I enjoy to play. I like them, but I
do not like them as much as the games listed on the row starting with a 9.
And guess what, games listed at 9 are games I like very much. More than the
games I listed at the 10-row, but not as much as I like the games listed
at row 8.
I'm sure you have getting the point by now. But the question "Wouldn't 19
to 1 be more natural? might still ring in the head.
And the answer is NO!
The game at number 1 is my very favorite. Zork Nemises is the best adventure
game made all times because it have beatiful art and music, good story and
acting, interesting and fun puzzles etc. There could only be one "the very
best game" on my list. Thats easy.
Also at places 2 - 4 are only one game listed because it is fairly easy to
list them at this level. But further you go away from the number 1 place
you harder it is to graduate the games. The chanses for unfair displacement
increase further from the top. Thats why several games are listed at same
"likeness level".
Thats the reason it looks like it does.
What's your IPFG?
> Ashikaga
Erik
Bob R
Ashikaga wrote in message
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>"Erik Rodoga" wrote...
>> "Ashikaga" wrote...
>
>Anywayz, I mean what's the point of listing your favorite games from
10 to
>1, if you have 19 games.... Wouldn't 19 to 1 be more natural? Just
>curious. Maybe you have some explanation for that.
>Ashikaga
He heard someone say you couldn't count to 19, and was testing you!!
<G>
Take your shoes off!! That's another ten digits! (...that's what I
do.)
Bob R
POVrookie
Ashikaga
> Ashikaga wrote...
> >"Erik Rodoga" wrote...
> >> "Ashikaga" wrote...
> <snip>
> >
> >Anywayz, I mean what's the point of listing your favorite games from
> 10 to
> >1, if you have 19 games.... Wouldn't 19 to 1 be more natural? Just
> >curious. Maybe you have some explanation for that.
> >Ashikaga
>
> He heard someone say you couldn't count to 19, and was testing you!!
> <G>
And who is that person who gave him that idea? ;-)
> Take your shoes off!! That's another ten digits! (...that's what I
> do.)
Ten "digits?" Gee, I think you have to retake math class.
> Bob R
> POVrookie
Ashikaga
Ashikaga
> "Ashikaga" wrote...
> > > > Yes, it's a list of how many games? :-D
> > >
> > > It is 19 games Ashikaga. Try counting them and you will find it is 19
> > games.
> >
> > Yes, but I also only have ten fingers.... ;-)
>
> But you do also have ten toes, don't you? Try using them too.
I have eight toes only..., no, not really. :-D
<snip>
> I'm sure you have getting the point by now. But the question "Wouldn't 19
> to 1 be more natural? might still ring in the head.
>
> And the answer is NO!
Okay, I am not actually dumb, but if you think so, be my guest. I hope I've
been amiable so far. :-)
<snip>
> What's your IPFG?
For adventure games (it's a tough list):
10 In the First Degree / Black Dahlia
9 LSL6 / Overseer / MI2
8 Spycraft / Return of the Phantom / Sanitarium
7 BS1 / KQ5 / KQ1 / MI3 / Pandora Directive
6 Blade Runner / BS2 / Sam & Max
5 KQ 6 / Count Down / GF / MI1
4 The Dig / UAKM / GK3
3 Martian Memorandom / Loom / FT
2 GK2
1 GK1/TLE
Just some unique games I need to explain why I rank them the way I do.
GK1 has the best settings and feels, and TLE has the best ending ever and
its artistic direction. That's why I pick them for the top spot. Very hard
to say which one is the best because they are so different!
GK2 is by itself being my second favorite, for it's storyline (which is also
true for both games on the first plots).
Only if you consider Planescape: Torment as an adventure game (which is
generally considered as an RPG, but the story structure is actually quite
adventure game like), then it'll be on my second spot as well.
Loom remains to be the most unique game I have ever played. MM is very
revolutionary and with such an imaginative futuristic setting, it's really a
classic. The puzzles in that game are superior than many games.
Count Down is an oldie that is released just before Martian Memorandum, and
by Access as well. It's story is compelling (it's set in Turkey, and the
main character must escape from the political "asylum" first). The action
element is so heartracing, maybe that's why it turned some people off.
I love Blade Runner's interface. My favorite interface of all time. Full
screen makes it very cinematic. It has its flaws, but overall, it's a good
game, with interesting locations.
Spycraft must be the best "gadgets" games I've played. It's fun! Too bad
it's so short.
Return of the Phantom has a very very good story. I love it very much. If
we just rate these games on storyline alone, this one may end up much higher
than it is.
In the First Degree is a game where you play as a lawyer trying to find
enough evidence to prosecute the defendent and put him to jail for life.
The acting is good, I think (it's an FMV), and I like the very original idea
the game has.
> Erik
Ashikaga
Erik Rodoga
I don't think you are dumb. Not very much at least... :-)
Now when we have sorted that out I would like to comment your IPFG.
"Ashikaga" <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3XRr8.8726$Rw2.7...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
>
< snip >
>
> For adventure games (it's a tough list):
>
> 10 In the First Degree / Black Dahlia
> 9 LSL6 / Overseer / MI2
> 8 Spycraft / Return of the Phantom / Sanitarium
> 7 BS1 / KQ5 / KQ1 / MI3 / Pandora Directive
> 6 Blade Runner / BS2 / Sam & Max
> 5 KQ 6 / Count Down / GF / MI1
> 4 The Dig / UAKM / GK3
> 3 Martian Memorandom / Loom / FT
> 2 GK2
> 1 GK1/TLE
>
> Just some unique games I need to explain why I rank them the way I do.
>
> GK1 has the best settings and feels, and TLE has the best ending ever and
> its artistic direction. That's why I pick them for the top spot. Very hard
> to say which one is the best because they are so different!
I have TLE but not played it yet. Mainly because it feels I would miss much
of the plot since I'm not native english speaking. I started it a year ago
and - if I remeber right - people was talking everywhere. But I might give
it a new try soon...
<snip>
> Only if you consider Planescape: Torment as an adventure game (which is
> generally considered as an RPG, but the story structure is actually quite
> adventure game like), then it'll be on my second spot as well.
No, it's not an adventure game.
> Loom remains to be the most unique game I have ever played. MM is very
> revolutionary and with such an imaginative futuristic setting, it's really a
> classic. The puzzles in that game are superior than many games.
I have Loom in original box including 5 1/4" diskettes and audio tape
cassette. Have not been able to play it since I have not got any oppertunity
to copy the floppys to 3 1/2" or to CD yet. Looking forward to play it...
< snip >
> I love Blade Runner's interface. My favorite interface of all time. Full
> screen makes it very cinematic. It has its flaws, but overall, it's a good
> game, with interesting locations.
Blade Runner is lying on my shelf waiting to be played...
Regarding the other games on you list, Spycraft, Return of the Phantom,
First Degree. Are there any acftion elements in them? I usually lose interest
in adventure games with action scenes or timed sequences...
By the way, what is UAKM and FT?
Erik
Ashikaga
> Dear amiable Ashikaga,
Dear Erik...,
> I don't think you are dumb. Not very much at least... :-)
Every little bit counts, though. ;-)
> Now when we have sorted that out I would like to comment your IPFG.
Shoot away..., or does that shooter element turn you off? ;-)
> "Ashikaga" wrote...
> >
> < snip >
> >
> > For adventure games (it's a tough list):
> >
> > 10 In the First Degree / Black Dahlia
> > 9 LSL6 / Overseer / MI2
> > 8 Spycraft / Return of the Phantom / Sanitarium
> > 7 BS1 / KQ5 / KQ1 / MI3 / Pandora Directive
> > 6 Blade Runner / BS2 / Sam & Max
> > 5 KQ 6 / Count Down / GF / MI1
> > 4 The Dig / UAKM / GK3
> > 3 Martian Memorandom / Loom / FT
> > 2 GK2
> > 1 GK1/TLE
> >
> > Just some unique games I need to explain why I rank them the way I do.
> >
> > GK1 has the best settings and feels, and TLE has the best ending ever
and
> > its artistic direction. That's why I pick them for the top spot. Very
hard
> > to say which one is the best because they are so different!
>
> I have TLE but not played it yet. Mainly because it feels I would miss
much
> of the plot since I'm not native english speaking. I started it a year ago
> and - if I remeber right - people was talking everywhere. But I might give
> it a new try soon...
That's okay. English isn't my first language either. The overall feel is
very good, so just play it and enjoy it. The ending is really good, so you
must play it to its end to understand the whole plot.
> <snip>
>
> > Only if you consider Planescape: Torment as an adventure game (which is
> > generally considered as an RPG, but the story structure is actually
quite
> > adventure game like), then it'll be on my second spot as well.
>
> No, it's not an adventure game.
Your answer is pretty firm, isn't it?
The box says it's RPG/Adventure, but I agree, it's not adventure in the
strictest sense.
> > Loom remains to be the most unique game I have ever played. MM is very
> > revolutionary and with such an imaginative futuristic setting, it's
really a
> > classic. The puzzles in that game are superior than many games.
>
> I have Loom in original box including 5 1/4" diskettes and audio tape
> cassette. Have not been able to play it since I have not got any
oppertunity
> to copy the floppys to 3 1/2" or to CD yet. Looking forward to play it...
Audio tape cassette? If you are able to port them to CD, the tape
soundtracks I mean, please do and I'll pay you for them.
> < snip >
>
> > I love Blade Runner's interface. My favorite interface of all time.
Full
> > screen makes it very cinematic. It has its flaws, but overall, it's a
good
> > game, with interesting locations.
>
> Blade Runner is lying on my shelf waiting to be played...
Okay..., how many games you have on your shelf waiting to be opened? You
are missing some good stuff.
> Regarding the other games on you list, Spycraft, Return of the Phantom,
> First Degree. Are there any acftion elements in them? I usually lose
interest
> in adventure games with action scenes or timed sequences...
>
> By the way, what is UAKM and FT?
UAKM is Under A Killing Moon (3rd installment of Text Murphy Games). FT is
Full Throttle, a Lucas Arts Classics.
> Erik
Ashikaga
Jester
>> do.)
> Ten "digits?" Gee, I think you have to retake math class.
>
> Ashikaga
Either that, or you need to take an anatomy class. ;-)
- Daniel
--
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing
sound they make as they fly by.
-- Douglas Adams
Ashikaga
> >> Take your shoes off!! That's another ten digits! (...that's what I
> >> do.)
>
> > Ten "digits?" Gee, I think you have to retake math class.
> >
> > Ashikaga
>
> Either that, or you need to take an anatomy class. ;-)
Yeah, and I thought I chopped 999,999,990 extra toes off already....
> - Daniel
> --
> I love deadlines. I like the whooshing
> sound they make as they fly by.
> -- Douglas Adams
Ashikaga
Raj
> "Erik Rodoga" wrote...
>
>>Dear amiable Ashikaga,
>>
>
> Dear Erik...,
>
>
>>Regarding the other games on you list, Spycraft, Return of the Phantom,
>>First Degree. Are there any acftion elements in them? I usually lose
>>
> interest
Spycraft has a few timed sequences, IIRC, but the only one that really
bothered me was in the endgame.
Doesn't TLE also have some timed elements?
>
>>in adventure games with action scenes or timed sequences...
>>
>
>>Erik
>>
> Ashikaga
>
>
>
Raj
> Again? Why does this question come up every week or so?
Might that be because people's answers change as they play more games?
My list has certainly been doing some re-arranging lately.
Ashikaga
> Ashikaga wrote:
>
> > "Erik Rodoga" wrote...
> >
> >>Dear amiable Ashikaga,
> >>
> >
> > Dear Erik...,
> >
> >
> >>Regarding the other games on you list, Spycraft, Return of the Phantom,
> >>First Degree. Are there any acftion elements in them? I usually lose
> >>
> > interest
Yes for Spycraft. Not so for others.
> Spycraft has a few timed sequences, IIRC, but the only one that really
> bothered me was in the endgame.
>
> Doesn't TLE also have some timed elements?
Some action sequence. The entire game is timed, but you still need to
finish something before other things may happen, so it's a mixed.
Erik Rodoga
>
> > I have Loom in original box including 5 1/4" diskettes and audio tape
> > cassette. Have not been able to play it since I have not got any
> oppertunity
> > to copy the floppys to 3 1/2" or to CD yet. Looking forward to play it...
>
> Audio tape cassette? If you are able to port them to CD, the tape
> soundtracks I mean, please do and I'll pay you for them.
Unfortunatly, I have no casette player with audio out connector.
It is more than a radio teather show than just audio tracks.
< snip >
> Okay..., how many games you have on your shelf waiting to be opened? You
> are missing some good stuff.
Many.
Erik
Jester
> Either that, or you need to take an anatomy class. ;-)
> Yeah, and I thought I chopped 999,999,990 extra toes off already....
>
> Ashikaga
So now you're missing 999,999,990 digits, right?
Ashikaga
> >>> Ten "digits?" Gee, I think you have to retake math class.
>
> > Either that, or you need to take an anatomy class. ;-)
>
> > Yeah, and I thought I chopped 999,999,990 extra toes off already....
>
(*shakes head*) I am running out of toes for that one.... You are an evil
angel.... Maddie would be proud of you.
> - Daniel
> --
> I love deadlines. I like the whooshing
> sound they make as they fly by.
> -- Douglas Adams
Ashikaga
Jester
>> So now you're missing 999,999,990 digits, right?
> (*shakes head*) I am running out of toes for that one.... You are an evil
> angel.... Maddie would be proud of you.
>
> Ashikaga
Let's try it again. How many digits do you think you have on your feet?
Ashikaga
> >>> Yeah, and I thought I chopped 999,999,990 extra toes off already....
>
> >> So now you're missing 999,999,990 digits, right?
>
> > (*shakes head*) I am running out of toes for that one.... You are an
evil
> > angel.... Maddie would be proud of you.
>
Two. Now, do I get my Tootsie Roll?
> - Daniel
> --
> I love deadlines. I like the whooshing
> sound they make as they fly by.
> -- Douglas Adams
Ashikaga
Rikard Peterson
news:Pyct8.17749$Rw2.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> "Jester" wrote...
>
>> Let's try it again. How many digits do you think you have on your
>> feet?
>
> Two. Now, do I get my Tootsie Roll?
I have ten.
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=digit
>> - Daniel
> Ashikaga
Rikard
Murray Peterson
> Let's try it again. How many digits do you think you have on your feet?
Ten. 6 on one foot, and 4 on the other :-)
--
Murray Peterson
Email: murray_...@shaw.ca (remove underscore)
URL: http://members.shaw.ca/murraypeterson/
Ashikaga
> "Ashikaga" wrote:
> > "Jester" wrote...
> >
> >> Let's try it again. How many digits do you think you have on your
> >> feet?
> >
> > Two. Now, do I get my Tootsie Roll?
>
> I have ten.
> http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=digit
I have never used digit that way. To me digit is how many places on a
number.... I am too mathematical, I guess....
> >> - Daniel
> > Ashikaga
> Rikard
Ashikaga
Ashikaga
> Jester wrote:
>
> > Let's try it again. How many digits do you think you have on your feet?
>
> Ten. 6 on one foot, and 4 on the other :-)
Then you have to blame the doctor who seperate you from your Siamese twin.
> --
> Murray Peterson
> Email: murray_...@shaw.ca (remove underscore)
> URL: http://members.shaw.ca/murraypeterson/
Ashikaga
Rikard Peterson
news:iemt8.24343$QC1.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> I have never used digit that way. To me digit is how many places
> on a number.... I am too mathematical, I guess....
>
> Ashikaga
The BC comic for April 17 reminded me of this thread...
http://www.comics.com/creators/bc/index.html :)
Rikard
Ashikaga
> "Ashikaga" wrote:
>
> > on a number.... I am too mathematical, I guess....
>
> http://www.comics.com/creators/bc/index.html :)
BC in my dictionary is Barbara.
> Rikard
Ashikaga
Barbara
"Ashikaga" <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> schreef in bericht
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> BC in my dictionary is Barbara.
> Ashikaga
Being Clever?
Before Christ
Blackstone Chronicles
:-)
B.C.
Ashikaga
> "Ashikaga" schreef in bericht...
> > BC in my dictionary is Barbara.
>
(*blushes*) No need.... Oh....
> Before Christ
> Blackstone Chronicles
> :-)
Ooh..., let me try.
Bloody Chore (*groans*)
Born Cynical...
Blue Chocobo
:-)
> B.C.
Ashikaga