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Raj

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Mar 9, 2002, 8:27:12 PM3/9/02
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Help!
Nico and I are in Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror, and I'm totally
trapped. We don't want to resort to a walkthrough because, for me
anyway, those darn things always say more than one needs to know. SO, I
just want a little hint about the next action to take (or even, at this
point, what action is possible!).
THANKS!
~George

<spoiler space>

I have loaded the scene over and over again and can not make a single
step forward. I have loaded from a previous point and still can't get
anywhere (although there shouldn't be any dead ends in this marvelously
designed game). So far, the game seems sent from heaven, so I don't
think I am hopelessly stuck. But I've tried everything on everything
and everybody and talked about everything with every body and pixel
hunted my heart out.

SO, here's where I am. It's time for a lunch break on the movie set. I
talked to Bert the stuntman, got him a pancake, got him to eat one with
syrup, got his face and chest covered with syrup. He won't take anymore
syrup pancakes and it doesn't matter if I give him, if I can, plain
pancakes; he just eats them and nothing changes. Bert isn't interested
in any of my inventory.
I threw a bun into the bush and got the hornets mad. I can get a new
bun (that no one is interested in) and throw it into the bush, but that
doesn't do anything new and I can keep doing that forever; or I can keep
the bun and try it on everything else and every person and find out that
it does nothing.
Can only carry one bun at a time, and only one pancake at a time.
The only inventory that combined was the pancake and the maple syrup.
Pixel hunted and tried all inventory, other than the bun, on the bush.
Repeatedly pixel hunted and tried all inventory (including the bun)
on: the camera, the plank with the barrel, the table with the food, the
moat and all of the stockade, the drawbridge (which I don't see any
reason for lowering), all of the forest (on both sides of the location).
Walked around behind the stockade, where the camera can't see me. And
then came back out on the other side and nothing changed.
Talked to and showed everything to Haiku the leading man, but he's
only interested in himself. Talked to and showed everything to Flash
the cameraman, but he's too interested in the film. Talked to and
showed everything to Hawkes the director, but he's not interested in
anything (and doesn't want me to play with the plank or walk around in
the stockade). Talked to and showed everything to Sharon Somebody the
famous actress, but she just keeps saying "Hi Gorgeous!" (Which, come
to think of it, might be the best part of the situation at present.)

I even tried all the inventory on the picking up and pointing hands,
but just shrugged my shoulders.

I won't go back in the forest either.

Should I be looking for Harry Potter's invisibility cloak just about now?

Did I mention I look cool in shades?

I don't even know what my objective is, or even why I bothered to
stop at this movie set instead of just getting off Zombie Island.

Mad

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Mar 9, 2002, 10:17:33 PM3/9/02
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"Raj" <nob...@ureach.com> wrote in message
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> Help!
> Nico and I are in Broken Sword 2: The Smoking
Mirror.............................

Hi.

Try giving Bert a pancake with syrup on.

[www.uhs-hints.com only give you one small hint at a time which seems to be
just what you want.]

Good luck.

Cheers.

Mad.


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Dino Morelli

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Mar 9, 2002, 10:32:43 PM3/9/02
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Raj <nob...@ureach.com> wrote in news:3C8AB670...@ureach.com:

> Help!
> Nico and I are in Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror, and I'm
> totally
> trapped. We don't want to resort to a walkthrough because, for me
> anyway, those darn things always say more than one needs to know. SO,
> I just want a little hint about the next action to take (or even, at
> this point, what action is possible!).
> THANKS!
> ~George
>

You should try UHS hints and hint reader http://uhs-hints.com

I just looked and they have a hint file for this game. And there are
readers for many platforms.

It works with a menu system, giving you hopefully only hints for what you
need, hiding things that may spoil your game. Check it out.

Raj

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Mar 9, 2002, 10:51:49 PM3/9/02
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Mad wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Try giving Bert a pancake with syrup on.
>
> [www.uhs-hints.com only give you one small hint at a time which seems to be
> just what you want.]
>
> Good luck.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Mad.


Thanks for the help with the pancake, but I believe we tried that. I
guess I wasn't clear on that. I gave him a first one, he got all sloppy
with syrup (making us think those mad hornets are coming after him or
that we need him to go over to the bush. . . right?). But after that
first syrupy pancake, he says he isn't having another one of *those*,
and that's the only dialogue option that is available with Bert.

And about the good old www. uhs-hints.com. . .

<enter Simon & Garfunkel>

I do declare
there were times that I was so helpless
I took some comfort there
la la lalala laa
dye dada d'da dye

<exit S & G>

or at least I wanted to.
heard you have to register.
thought I'd try here first.

thanks anyhow!

Raj

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Mar 9, 2002, 11:06:20 PM3/9/02
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Dino Morelli wrote:

>
> You should try UHS hints and hint reader http://uhs-hints.com
>
> I just looked and they have a hint file for this game. And there are
> readers for many platforms.
>
> It works with a menu system, giving you hopefully only hints for what you
> need, hiding things that may spoil your game. Check it out.
>

Thank you for your help on this one.

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, or if the on line UHS for
the game at this point just goes no further. But I got to the "no more
hints" level and I still have no idea what to do. Or, rather, I know
what I need to accomplish (which was what we have been figuring on all
along), but I'm just as stuck on what I

Incidentally, although it's no one's fault, I now know, from looking at
the menu, more than I wanted to know. I know about the next two locations.
Darn.

Jeanne

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Mar 9, 2002, 11:48:44 PM3/9/02
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Raj <nob...@ureach.com> wrote >
Help!


> I threw a bun into the bush and got the hornets mad.

Hi Raj,
I don't remember this part because it's been so long since I played the
game. I looked at my notes, and I have "throw rocks into bush".
Hmm. My notes also say, "go to wardrobe tent and use portable camera and
then got the rock!"

These hints mean absolutely nothing to me at this point...but I hope it
helps.
Jeanne


Raj

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Mar 10, 2002, 12:37:35 AM3/10/02
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Jeanne wrote:

WOW! Thanks, but it looks like you were playing a much more exciting
game than we are!
This is getting kind of interesting.
There's no wardrobe tent that we can see, nor do we have a portable
camera (can't remember this in any other part of the game so far). I
know (from darn UHS) that next is a beach part, so maybe that stuff is
for that location.
For us right now, the buns are described as "rock hard" and we can
throw them into the bush.

Thanks for the notes. . . but. . . well, maybe we can use them in the
next part. . . or figure out how in the world they could apply here.

Like I said, though, thanks from both of us.
(and there really is a Nico, I'm not schizophrenic) (well, neither am I)
(I never said *you* were) (well it would be just like you) (will you
guys stop fighting!)

>
>
>


girlgeek

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Mar 10, 2002, 4:03:05 AM3/10/02
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Nico here. George (a.k.a.Raj) and I are still stuck and I am getting sick
of the smell of pancake syrup. I thank all of you for trying to help us.
We've been stuck here far too long (guess that pancake syrup is REALLY
sticky).

Please keep coming with the hints. Do we need to somehow get the guy that
has syrup on him over to the bush with the hornets in it? If so.....how?
Or is that completely off track?

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Lithurge

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Mar 10, 2002, 7:33:03 AM3/10/02
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"girlgeek" <girl...@yoyomail.com> wrote in
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Has the movie actually started shooting yet?

Talk to everybody first, then do the thing with the pancake & buns once it
has.

Nick

Raj

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Mar 10, 2002, 8:30:01 AM3/10/02
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Raj wrote:

> Help!
> Nico and I are in Broken Sword 2: The Smoking Mirror, and I'm totally
> trapped. We don't want to resort to a walkthrough because, for me
> anyway, those darn things always say more than one needs to know. SO, I
> just want a little hint about the next action to take (or even, at this
> point, what action is possible!).
> THANKS!
> ~George
>
> <spoiler space>
>
>

THANKS!!! Everyone!!!!
Nico (gilrgeek) got it this morning!!
For those of you still following this thread, see answer below. I
don't know how we couldn't have just stumbled on to the solution! We
have been stuck here for weeks! Literally!!

SO, thank you again, but interestingly. . . um. . . well. . . I don't
want to raises a ruckus. . . but uh, could the UHS be *wrong*???????

~Raj, George, Stobbart, whoever: mr. unstuck
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ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS THROW ANOTHER $&#^$ BUN IN THE !$*&^# BUSH!!! cutscene, next scene.


But, I think, the UHS has: "you need to convince Bert to let you do the
stunt for you."

I'll go check again, and report back if I got it wrong.


>
> I threw a bun into the bush and got the hornets mad. I can get a new
> bun (that no one is interested in) and throw it into the bush, but that
> doesn't do anything new and I can keep doing that forever

That's the bit WE got wrong. You just throw TWO buns in the bush after
Bert gets all sloppy with syrup.

Raj

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Mar 10, 2002, 8:39:21 AM3/10/02
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Raj wrote:

> Raj wrote:
> SO, thank you again, but interestingly. . . um. . . well. . . I don't
> want to raises a ruckus. . . but uh, could the UHS be *wrong*???????


Yes, it is wrong. Exact words are: "Maybe you could force him to let you
do it in his place."

It really looks like "him" refers to Bert the stuntman, but I don't see
how it makes any difference. Bert does the stunt.

Is this somehow an alternate solution??

What worked:

Linda

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Mar 10, 2002, 9:44:29 AM3/10/02
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I think if you throw about 3 buns in the bun right after each other
the hornets get mad enough to attack the actor with the syrup on his
face. I know that you have to throw the buns more than one time.


> Nico here. George (a.k.a.Raj) and I are still stuck and I am getting sick
> of the smell of pancake syrup. I thank all of you for trying to help us.
> We've been stuck here far too long (guess that pancake syrup is REALLY
> sticky).
>
> Please keep coming with the hints. Do we need to somehow get the guy that
> has syrup on him over to the bush with the hornets in it? If so.....how?
> Or is that completely off track?
>
>
>

Rohan Parkes

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Mar 10, 2002, 5:46:52 PM3/10/02
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In article <3C8B6209...@ureach.com>, nob...@ureach.com says...

> Raj wrote:
>
> > Raj wrote:
> > SO, thank you again, but interestingly. . . um. . . well. . . I don't
> > want to raises a ruckus. . . but uh, could the UHS be *wrong*???????
>

I got stuck on this exact place a while ago. It drove me mad, too. Even
when I eventually resorted to the UHS file, I couldn't understand what
was wrong, since I thought I'd thrown about a dozen buns into the bush.
It looks like you have to do it twice in quick succession to make it
work. (I.e. it's a timed puzzle.) I'd be interested if anyone could
confirm this.

--
Rohan Parkes
Melbourne
Australia

Raj

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Mar 10, 2002, 9:41:55 PM3/10/02
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Rohan Parkes wrote:

Oh thank you thank you thank you!. . . so we're not totally insane (well
not totally) or plain stupid (well I am. . . I'm stuck again, but Nico
is coming through for me).
Will try to get an answer on the timed question and report.
Any idea what's up with the UHS? I thought they were usually pretty
good. Do you think they got confused and talked about the next part,
where George has to do a stunt?
Thanks again!
~Raj


Linda

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Mar 11, 2002, 7:32:27 AM3/11/02
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also, I thought of something else. In these games, occasionally you
have to 'right click' on something. Did you 'right click' with the
mouse on the bush so that you could see the hornets? Then try and
throw a bunch of buns in the bush. I hope that gets you passed your
stuckness.

petr...@hotmail.com (Linda) wrote in message news:<c0c35e09.02031...@posting.google.com>...

girlgeek

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Mar 11, 2002, 7:51:49 AM3/11/02
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Okay......we made it past this whole mess.......thanks everyone!

This has been a fun game!


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Robert Norton

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Mar 11, 2002, 9:51:39 PM3/11/02
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Raj <nob...@ureach.com> wrote in <3C8C1973...@ureach.com>:

>Any idea what's up with the UHS? I thought they were usually pretty
>good.

Thanks!

>Do you think they got confused and talked about the next part,
>where George has to do a stunt?

It's entirely possible. If you know how to fix the hints up to make them
better, please send very, very clear directions on how to do so to me.
(Remember, I haven't played the game.) I will try to get the author to do
the fixing, or failing that get Jason to do it.

Thanks for your support, it is only through people *using* the hints and
reporting any holes that we can keep the quality high.

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