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Michiel

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Jun 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/1/00
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Please excuse any spelling or grammar errors I might make in the following
posting, for I'm Dutch.

A few years ago I completed Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within (after having
played and enjoyed Sins of the Fathers of course), and I was really
thrilled. This was a game like no other, in fact, it wasn't really a game at
all but an interactive movie, an overwhelming experience which is why I was
quite sad when it ended.

Today, I finished it for the second time and now I understand the complex
story a lot better. In fact I was quite surprised about all the new things I
learned and discovered which I didn't see before. However, a few questions
still remain and I would like anyone who has played this game to give me
some answers.

WARNING: spoilers down here. Those of you who haven't played the game
shoudn't read on. (Unless they never intend to play it of course.)
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Here are my questions:
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1. I'm not sure how Ludwig II became a werewolve. I know about the hunting
accident when he was bitten by a wolf in 1872, but who was this wolf? Was
this Von Glower (who's first name was Paul Gowden before he got his
entitlement)? Was Von Glower the friend Ludwig talkes about and who he
calles 'Louis'?

2. Why did Von Glower (if it was Von Glower) bite Ludwig? I know he was a
spy of Bismarck but this couldn't be the reason for his entitlement because
this was in 1870 and the accident was in 1872. Why did he get the
entitlement?

3. Was Von Glower really the son of Baron Von Ralick? If he was, he was
cursed because he was born to a werewolve, yet in his letter to Gabriel he
writes that he was cursed when he was 12, and also that "the change is
always painfull".

4. If werewolves are imune to aging and Von Glower became a werewolve when
he was 12, how could he have become a grown man?

5. Who is the old lady with white hair who we see in the dreams about
Ludwig?

6. What does the opera have to do exactely about the whole case? I know it's
about werewolves and I know that what happens during Act 3 is exactely what
was intended by Ludwig to happen to the man (Von Glower?) who had cursed
him. I know that he was supposed to become a werewolve because of the
sounds, but did Ludwig invent the character of Engelhart as an image of
himself? Was the Baron in the opera the same as Von Glower and was
Hildegunde the same as Elizabeth of Austria? If so the opera is different
from what really happend because the Baron is in fact killed in the opera.

7. Was Ludwig's introvertness because he didn't want the people to know that
he was a werewolve?

8. All the mutilation killings in Munich were in fact the work of Von Zell
and not Von Glower, right?

9. Was Von Glower in fact born in South America? This would also explain the
letter from their family to Rittersberg after the death of Von Ralick in
1750.

10. I consider my english to be rather good. However there are some lines in
the ending sequence which I don't really understand. Could someone tell me
what exactely is said on the bridge between Gabriel and Grace.

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Yes, I know these are a lot of questions, but I would really appreciate some
answers.

Thanks in advance,

Michiel

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>Here are my questions:
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>1. I'm not sure how Ludwig II became a werewolve. I know about the hunting
>accident when he was bitten by a wolf in 1872, but who was this wolf? Was
>this Von Glower (who's first name was Paul Gowden before he got his
>entitlement)? Was Von Glower the friend Ludwig talkes about and who he
>calles 'Louis'?

Yes

>2. Why did Von Glower (if it was Von Glower) bite Ludwig? I know he was a
>spy of Bismarck but this couldn't be the reason for his entitlement because
>this was in 1870 and the accident was in 1872. Why did he get the
>entitlement?

He had been hired by Bismarck as a spy and also to get rid of the
King. Von Glower couldn't actually kill him because he grew too
close, so he bit him in order to make him lose the throne.

>3. Was Von Glower really the son of Baron Von Ralick? If he was, he was
>cursed because he was born to a werewolve, yet in his letter to Gabriel he
>writes that he was cursed when he was 12, and also that "the change is
>always painfull".

Plot hole! However at the same time I don't think he was actually
bitten - it might just not have kicked in until he was twelve.

>4. If werewolves are imune to aging and Von Glower became a werewolve when
>he was 12, how could he have become a grown man?

Plot hole! Maybe they just don't pass a certain limit.

>5. Who is the old lady with white hair who we see in the dreams about
>Ludwig?

Nobody important - just somebody that he trusts enough to intrust the
opera to him.

>6. What does the opera have to do exactely about the whole case? I know it's
>about werewolves and I know that what happens during Act 3 is exactely what
>was intended by Ludwig to happen to the man (Von Glower?) who had cursed
>him. I know that he was supposed to become a werewolve because of the
>sounds, but did Ludwig invent the character of Engelhart as an image of
>himself? Was the Baron in the opera the same as Von Glower and was
>Hildegunde the same as Elizabeth of Austria? If so the opera is different
>from what really happend because the Baron is in fact killed in the opera.

The opera was written by Wagner on Ludwig's bequest after he found
that music could force the Change. The idea was that Von Glower would
change into a wolf during the performance and be caught - this is the
plan later followed by Grace and Gabriel. The opera itself was not
based on Ludwig, but thematically the idea of the Duke changing during
the final scene was a mirror of the plan. Englehart was a tragic
romantic figure, and a protector - not really Ludwig's style, who
preferred playing Prince Charming over peasants :-)

>7. Was Ludwig's introvertness because he didn't want the people to know that
>he was a werewolve?

Yes, at the time his grip on the throne with the Prussians so powerful
was tenous - he couldn't afford to show any sign of weakness, much
less turn into a supernatural monster at breakfast time. There was
also his temper - remember Gabriel during the Change?

>8. All the mutilation killings in Munich were in fact the work of Von Zell
>and not Von Glower, right?

Yes, remember Von Glower's reaction after seeing the corpses in the
cave? However, von Glower is not exactly whiter than white in this
regard himself - he's more appaled at the senseless killing than the
killing in itself.

>9. Was Von Glower in fact born in South America? This would also explain the
>letter from their family to Rittersberg after the death of Von Ralick in
>1750.

No idea. It's been aeons since I played the game. But he was from a
German speaking community - and given that his family are fleeing in
the introduction it is not unlikely that they were around at the time
(although historically, as said in the game, they would have been
killed as soon as Von Ralick's identity was uncovered.

>10. I consider my english to be rather good. However there are some lines in
>the ending sequence which I don't really understand. Could someone tell me
>what exactely is said on the bridge between Gabriel and Grace.

I couldn't give you the script, but basically all that happens is that
the two have a chat, Gabriel apologises for trying to protect Grace
and shutting her out of the case, admits that he liked Von Glower -
and that things will have to get easier in the future.

(he's right - Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Darned was piss easy
:-))

- Richard


Charybdis

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Jun 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/7/00
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I'm Charybdis! I'm happy! I'm full of prozac happy! I am so happy
that I'll respond to midn...@cableone.net (J & J)'s post with
laughter and bliss. I love you all! Except Mike Mercury

>On Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:15:42 GMT, char...@floor-13.co.uk (Charybdis)
>wrote:
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>I got the impression these werewolves traveled pretty extensively.
>Could have left betas anywhere. :)

A bit like a warez site :-)

- Richard

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