Nancy Drew - Creature of Kapu Cave
Tecknomage
I was irked when I installed Kapu and found out it required me to have
the CD mounted.
Why? Two reasons:
1) I played Crystal Skull first. It _does_not_ require the CD
mounted.
2) I have 2 CD drives. The GAME.INI as a reference (CDDrive=I:)
which is only one. This forces me to use only that CD drive.
I looked at the GAME.INI in Crystal Skull and found the reference
CDDrive=J: (J: is the game hard drive) and I noted that the NANCY.CID
file was in the game folder.
Editing the GAME.INI (CDDrive=J:) for Kapu, and coping the NANCY.CID
from the Kapu CD to the game folder, did provide a solution.
Is there a way to make Kapu play _without_ having the CD mounted?
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he still wrong? - Pickles 1997
mick
> I was irked when I installed Kapu and found out it required me to have
> the CD mounted.
>
> Why? Two reasons:
>
> 1) I played Crystal Skull first. It _does_not_ require the CD
> mounted.
>
> 2) I have 2 CD drives. The GAME.INI as a reference (CDDrive=I:)
> which is only one. This forces me to use only that CD drive.
>
> I looked at the GAME.INI in Crystal Skull and found the reference
> CDDrive=J: (J: is the game hard drive) and I noted that the NANCY.CID
> file was in the game folder.
>
> Editing the GAME.INI (CDDrive=J:) for Kapu, and coping the NANCY.CID
> from the Kapu CD to the game folder, did provide a solution.
>
>
> Is there a way to make Kapu play _without_ having the CD mounted?
You could try a NoCD crack.
mick
rpgs rock dvds
I've heard that a couple of software tools can create something called
a virtual drive on your computer. "Daemon Tools" and "Alcohol 120%"
are 2 examples. By creating virtual drives, you can fool the program
(in your case Nancy Drew; Kapu) in to thinking that a virtual drive on
your hard drive is the actual CD (or DVD) physical drive. This will
allow you to play the game without having the physical disc in the
physical drive - the game will just get the data (or whatever it wants
to do) from your hard drive.
I believe that both products have trial versions for free download -
why not check them out, and if it works for you (or not), post back
your observations?
Regards, Robert.
mick
Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It allows
you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
Alchohol120 is commercial and allows more drives.
mick
Matt v3.2
> Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
v3.47 (and it has smooth icons ;) - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )
I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
- it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
for it to work.
I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox can
do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images and the game runs
entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days! :)
I wish we had a DOSbox back in 1992 ... ;D
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Mary
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Matt, how does that work in Dosbox? and what is the "ingmount" command? is
it used in command line within Dosbox?
You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon wouldn't
you?
Mary
mick
> mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
>> Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
>> I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
>> allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality
> as v3.47 (and it has smooth icons ;) - except for the tray icon
> <*grr*> )
>
with win98:-(
mick
ronald....@gmail.com
> "Matt v3.2" <ask.for.my.addr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
> > mick typed on Thu 10 Jan 2008 11:37 AM:
> > > Daemon Tools is free - unless this has changed with newer versions.
> > > I`m using version 3.47 and have been using this program for years. It
> > > allows you to create a maximum of 4 virtual drives at any one time.
>
> > Version 4.11.2 is great, too. Still free with the same functionality as
> > v3.47 (and it has smooth icons ;) - except for the tray icon <*grr*> )
>
> > I also recommended getting Daemon Script from the v4-series Addons page
> > - it lets you create a one-click shortcut that automatically mounts the
> > CD image, runs the game app, then unmounts the image when you exit the
> > game. Be sure to add a few seconds of delay after mounting the image(s)
> > for it to work.
>
> > I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts.DOSboxcan
> > do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A Killing Moon"
> > working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using the 'imgmount'
> > entirely from the hard drive - even better than the old MS-DOS days! :)
>
> it used in command line withinDosbox?
> You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon wouldn't
> you?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
imgmount "mounts" .iso's and .cue/.bin CDROM images. It mounts floppy
images as well. It can also load multiple images that can be switched
between them by using CTRL+F4. Yes, it is an internal DosBox command.
Mary
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That sounds like double dutch to me. I don't know how all that works. I will
have to study the situation more. Thanks anyway.
Mary
Matt v3.2
>> I setup all my games to run with one-click, no-CD shortcuts. DOSbox
>> can do the same thing, for example - I have the 4-CD "Under A
>> Killing Moon" working with one click and no more CD swapping. Using
>> the 'imgmount' command, DOSbox automatically mounts the 4 CD images
>> and the game runs entirely from the hard drive - even better than
>> the old MS-DOS days! :)
>
> Matt, how does that work in Dosbox? and what is the "ingmount"
> command? is it used in command line within Dosbox?
Yes, imgmount is a DOSbox command. You can get the full details in the
DOSbox readme.txt, but I'll outline it below. It does basically the same
thing as Deamon Tools - lets you mount a disc image as a drive letter.
First you need to make a disc image of the 4 CDs. A disc image is just
one file (.ISO) that contains the entire CD. You can use a free program
such as DDump+Frontend:
Save each CD image somewhere in the game folder, for example:
C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.iso
C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.iso
Then in DOSbox you mount each image as a drive letter, for example:
imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso
So now the game thinks you have the 4 discs inserted in drives H, I, J,
and K. You would also need to mount the C drive as usual:
mount C "C:\"
While still in DOSbox, goto H: (as in, disc 1) and type 'install' to
install the game. Install it to "C:\Games\Tex3" for this example. On
the install screen, you can specify the drive letters for each disc.
(Also, put the DOSbox cycles up to about 20000 with Ctrl-F12 keys, so
the game will think you have a "fast" PC)
By the way, you can save all these commands as a DOSbox profile (.CONF)
and then run it with a single shortcut. A profile is just a text file
of pre-defined commands, to save you having to type them in every time.
So, make a file called 'Tex3.CONF' (make sure it does not end in .TXT)
and save it in the game folder.
For example, my 'C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.CONF' file looks like this:
[render]
frameskip=1
scaler=none
[dosbox]
memsize=32
[cpu]
cycles=20000
core=dynamic
[sdl]
fullscreen=true
[autoexec]
mount C "C:\" -t dir
imgmount H "C:\Games\Tex3\CD1\tex3cd1.ISO" -t iso
imgmount I "C:\Games\Tex3\CD2\tex3cd2.ISO" -t iso
imgmount J "C:\Games\Tex3\CD3\tex3cd3.ISO" -t iso
imgmount K "C:\Games\Tex3\CD4\tex3cd4.ISO" -t iso
C:
cd \Games\Tex3
moon.exe
Then make a standard Windows shortcut that points to the DOSbox path
and config file(s):
"C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.exe"
-conf "C:\Program Files\DOSBox-0.72\dosbox.conf"
-conf "C:\Games\Tex3\Tex3.conf" -noconsole
(That should be one line)
Then, with one click of that shortcut, and you can play Tex3 without
having to insert or swap CDs. :)
Eh, it looks more complicated writing it than actually doing it. :)
> You would still have to install all 3 CD;s of Under a Killing moon
> wouldn't you?
Yes. The game install only takes up roughly 6 MB of hard drive, but
because you make a copy of all 4 discs as well, the total folder takes
up 2.51 GB (gigabytes!) :)
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Mary
disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough problems
getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.
Mary
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noman
>Matt, thanks for taking the time to give me the information about making a
>disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough problems
>getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.
The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
application, you'll need just two commands,
mount c c:\ (Assuming c:\ in your PC is the place you install all
games, for me it's c:\games, so I use the command <mount c c:\games>)
mount d d:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctrl (assuming that d:\ is your
CD/DVDROM..... if it's g:\ instead, use <mount d g:\ blah blah> )
With these two commands alone you can run 99% of old DOS games without
any further tweaks. The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option,
so most games run fine without you having to set CPU cycles by
Ctrl+F12.
Now with this basic configuration, you get to play the games exactly
as the experience was 10-15 years ago, swapping CDs for multi-CD
games. Well there's one big difference; you can easily alt-tab back to
desktop to umm.. check the walkthrough.
Matt's excellent post gave details about how you can get rid of CD
swapping by mounting CD image as virtual drives. I didn't even know
that DOSBox can do that as I always used DaemonTools to have virtual
drives. He also wrote how this can be added to the conf file, so you
don't have to retype the commands every time you start DOSBox.
However, if it's too complicated you can always just run DOSBox and
the two mount commands and the setup would be ready for any DOS game.
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Noman
Mary
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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:27:31 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>
> >Matt, thanks for taking the time to give me the information about making
a
> >disc image but it seems much too complicated for me. I had enough
problems
> >getting DOS box to work. LOL. But I might try it sometime. Thanks again.
>
> The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
> example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
> application, you'll need just two commands,
>
> mount c c:\ (Assuming c:\ in your PC is the place you install all
> games, for me it's c:\games, so I use the command <mount c c:\games>)
>
> mount d d:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctrl (assuming that d:\ is your
> CD/DVDROM..... if it's g:\ instead, use <mount d g:\ blah blah> )
>
> With these two commands alone you can run 99% of old DOS games without
> any further tweaks. The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option,
> so most games run fine without you having to set CPU cycles by
> Ctrl+F12.
>
> Now with this basic configuration, you get to play the games exactly
> as the experience was 10-15 years ago, swapping CDs for multi-CD
> games. Well there's one big difference; you can easily alt-tab back to
> desktop to umm.. check the walkthrough.
I know how to run Dosbox and played a few old Dos games in it, and still
playing The 7th Guest using it. I knew I could get back to desktop if I
didn't make the game fill up the screen, but I usually do Alt/Enter so the
game will take up the entire screen, but didn't know that I could do alt/tab
to get back to desktop, so thanks for that tip.
> Matt's excellent post gave details about how you can get rid of CD
> swapping by mounting CD image as virtual drives. I didn't even know
> that DOSBox can do that as I always used DaemonTools to have virtual
> drives. He also wrote how this can be added to the conf file, so you
> don't have to retype the commands every time you start DOSBox.
> However, if it's too complicated you can always just run DOSBox and
> the two mount commands and the setup would be ready for any DOS game.
I will print Matt's instructions, and may need it sometime, but for me it
sounds too complicated. I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual
drives, or why you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I
know about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and I don't
want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p
Mary
Matt v3.2
> I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual drives, or why
> you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I know
> about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
> start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
> starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and
> I don't want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p
Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.
But for DOS games, you can use DOSbox and 'imgmount' to accomplish
the same thing.
As for 'why?' - simply to avoid the annoyance of inserting CDs. :)
Of course that is not really necessary to enjoy a game (well, maybe
some games), but at least you know it is possible for the next time
a game asks you to insert disc 3 for the hundredth time. ;)
(Although lots of games come on DVD these days. I'm not sure if you
can mount DVDs the same - at least I've never tried. Actually, I'm
not aware of any free software that can make a DVD image, either -
I might investigate that sometime)
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Mary
> Mary typed on Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:36 AM:
> > I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual drives, or why
> > you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I know
> > about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
> > start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time when
> > starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different situation, and
> > I don't want to figure it out unless I was forced to :p
>
> Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.
You are usually online at this time of night here - you being downunder..
Its 12.25 a.m. EST North America though its only 9.30 pm in Western Canada
and US.
I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as well as
XP and Vista? I use Win 98 most of the time, but have Win XP on a separate
partition so I can use it too when need be. By the way, are you using Vista
or Win XP? I don't have Vista and probably won't for a while. Its expensive
to buy.
> But for DOS games, you can use DOSbox and 'imgmount' to accomplish
> the same thing.
But ingmount is for Windows and Dosbox is for older Dos games, right? Is
ingmount part of Daemon Tools?
> As for 'why?' - simply to avoid the annoyance of inserting CDs. :)
>
> Of course that is not really necessary to enjoy a game (well, maybe
> some games), but at least you know it is possible for the next time
> a game asks you to insert disc 3 for the hundredth time. ;)
Some older games have a lot of CD's. Games that play on DVD Roms don't
usually have many DVD's.
> (Although lots of games come on DVD these days. I'm not sure if you
> can mount DVDs the same - at least I've never tried. Actually, I'm
> not aware of any free software that can make a DVD image, either -
> I might investigate that sometime)
I wouldn't know but probably some people here do.
Mary
mick
> Mary typed on Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:36 AM:
>
> (Although lots of games come on DVD these days. I'm not sure if you
> can mount DVDs the same - at least I've never tried.
Yes it works with DVD`s as well.
mick
mick
> "Matt v3.2" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Mary typed on Sat 12 Jan 2008 10:36 AM:
>>> I don't know anything about Daemon Tools or virtual drives, or why
>>> you would need it. I don't need to try it right now anyway. I know
>>> about adding the "mount" commands and the executables in Dosbox to
>>> start a game so you don't have to type them in Dosbox every time
>>> when starting. Its handy. But Daemon Tiools is a different
>>> situation, and I don't want to figure it out unless I was forced to
>>> :p
>>
>> Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.
>
> You are usually online at this time of night here - you being
> downunder.. Its 12.25 a.m. EST North America though its only 9.30 pm
> in Western Canada and US.
>
> I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as
> well as XP and Vista? I use Win 98 most of the time, but have Win XP
> on a separate partition so I can use it too when need be.
Yes it works with win98 although you will need to use version 3.47. Version
4 releases don`t work on win98
mick
Matt v3.2
> Yes it works with DVD`s as well.
Cool! But how to get a DVD image?
I suppose Nero can make one, but it uses its own format.
Wait a second, here is a list to answer my own question :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_image_software
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Matt v3.2
> You are usually online at this time of night here - you being
> downunder.. Its 12.25 a.m. EST North America though its only 9.30 pm
> in Western Canada and US.
I think that was 6:12PM tomorrow when I sent that message yesterday. :)
> I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as
> well as XP and Vista? I use Win 98 most of the time, but have Win XP
> on a separate partition so I can use it too when need be. By the way,
> are you using Vista or Win XP? I don't have Vista and probably won't
> for a while. Its expensive to buy.
I'm on WinXP. No vista for me. If I want vistas, I can look outside. ;)
So far, every game I've tried to play in WinXP has worked fine. So I've
had no need to go back to Win98, thankfully. DOS games work great using
DOSbox. I've had Glide-based games working great using a glide wrapper.
Even the DirectX games work (hahah!)
>> But for DOS games, you can use DOSbox and 'imgmount' to accomplish
>> the same thing.
>
> But ingmount is for Windows and Dosbox is for older Dos games, right?
> Is ingmount part of Daemon Tools?
No, it is just a command in DOSbox. You type it in on the command line.
Then you can play your DOS games in DOSbox without inserting CDs. :)
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Matt v3.2
> The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
> example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
> application
> The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option, so most games run
> fine without you having to set CPU cycles by Ctrl+F12.
Yes, I noticed that after reading your post then checking the config.
I think they used to have cycles=3000 set as default. I upgraded from
DOSbox 0.65 straight to 0.72 and never noticed. Now in DOSbox 0.72
there is cycles=auto and core=auto. Both can be left on this default
setting and it seems to work well, if not better!
With cycles=auto (DOSbox actually sets it to =max), games like Under
A Killing Moon and Wing Commander 3 are fast and smooth as silk. :)
A couple other amendments to my post:
1) UAKM actually had a patch I never knew about. After patching it,
DOSbox should run "tex197.exe" to start the game.
2) I found another (better?) disc image program: ISO Recorder.
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
It looks easy to use. Just insert the disc, right-click on it, and
select "Create image from CD" - easy!
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Rikard Peterson
noman <no_...@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote:
> The core DOSBox functionality has gotten much easier to set up. For
> example if you download and install DOSBox 0.72 and then run the
> application, you'll need just two commands,
>
> mount c c:\ (Assuming c:\ in your PC is the place you install all
> games, for me it's c:\games, so I use the command <mount c c:\games>)
>
> mount d d:\ -t cdrom -usecd 0 -ioctrl (assuming that d:\ is your
> CD/DVDROM..... if it's g:\ instead, use <mount d g:\ blah blah> )
>
> With these two commands alone you can run 99% of old DOS games without
> any further tweaks. The new DOSBox has a 'dynamic' CPU cycles option,
> so most games run fine without you having to set CPU cycles by
> Ctrl+F12.
Yay! Thanks for the info - that's the feature that I've been missing the
most in DOSBox. Now I'll start DOSBoxing when I get the time. (I still
have a pile of unplayed old games waiting for me.)
Rikard
Mary
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I'll keep that in mind.
Mary
Mary
So you just open Dosbox .065 or whatever version, and get to C:\ command and
type in ingmount? is that what you mean?
I have been using Dosbox 0.65 for the Dos games I've played and its worked
fine, and I usually just leave the CD in the drive after I install a game,
so unless there is a lot o f swapping of CD's in a game, it doesn't bother
me to swap CD's. GK2 was different. There was 6 CD's. But someone here says
you don't need to swap if you use Dosbox 0.72 so maybe I should use that. I
did find certain Dos games played better in certain Dosbox versions , and
not necessarily in the latest version..
Mary
Matt v3.2
>> No, it is just a command in DOSbox. You type it in on the command
>> line. Then you can play your DOS games in DOSbox without inserting
>> CDs. :)
>
> So you just open Dosbox .065 or whatever version, and get to C:\
> command and type in ingmount? is that what you mean?
Yes, once you have a CD image first. (See my original instructions)
And by the way, it is iMgmount (m, not n) As in "image mount" :)
> I have been using Dosbox 0.65 for the Dos games I've played and its
> worked fine, and I usually just leave the CD in the drive after I
> install a game, so unless there is a lot o f swapping of CD's in a
> game, it doesn't bother me to swap CD's. GK2 was different. There
> was 6 CD's. But someone here says you don't need to swap if you use
> Dosbox 0.72 so maybe I should use that.
It'll work in DOSbox 0.65 as well.
Yes, games with lots of CDs are a bother. Pandora Directive (Tex4)
was on 6 CDs as well. I've read that also plays great in DOSbox
without the CDs (DOSbox can mount all 6 CDs in the blink of an eye)
But I've not tried it myself, because I foolishly sold the game. :(
I have yet to play the GK series. Was GK2 a DOS game?
> I did find certain Dos games played better in certain Dosbox
> versions, and not necessarily in the latest version..
Perhaps. As noman mentioned in this thread though, DOSbox 0.72 is ...
shall we say, fine tuned. :)
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Matt v3.2
> Yay! Thanks for the info - that's the feature that I've been missing
> the most in DOSBox. Now I'll start DOSBoxing when I get the time. (I
> still have a pile of unplayed old games waiting for me.)
And let us not forget ScummVMing for certain LucasArts games. I used
it recently to play The Dig. Pretty easy to use and no need for the
game CD after setup, either. So ... if ScummVM supports a game, it
might be a better choice over DOSbox, on account of it being written
specifically to support that game - ?
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Mary
> Mary typed on Mon 14 Jan 2008 1:53 PM:
> >> No, it is just a command in DOSbox. You type it in on the command
> >> line. Then you can play your DOS games in DOSbox without inserting
> >> CDs. :)
> >
> > So you just open Dosbox .065 or whatever version, and get to C:\
> > command and type in ingmount? is that what you mean?
>
> Yes, once you have a CD image first. (See my original instructions)
>
> And by the way, it is iMgmount (m, not n) As in "image mount" :)
Yes, I knew that. Typing mistake :p I wish I was better at figuring out
about virtual drives though. Oh well, we can't be good at everything, can
we? :)
> > I have been using Dosbox 0.65 for the Dos games I've played and its
> > worked fine, and I usually just leave the CD in the drive after I
> > install a game, so unless there is a lot o f swapping of CD's in a
> > game, it doesn't bother me to swap CD's. GK2 was different. There
> > was 6 CD's. But someone here says you don't need to swap if you use
> > Dosbox 0.72 so maybe I should use that.
>
> It'll work in DOSbox 0.65 as well.
>
> Yes, games with lots of CDs are a bother. Pandora Directive (Tex4)
> was on 6 CDs as well. I've read that also plays great in DOSbox
> without the CDs (DOSbox can mount all 6 CDs in the blink of an eye)
> But I've not tried it myself, because I foolishly sold the game. :(
>
> I have yet to play the GK series. Was GK2 a DOS game?
Yes, it was made in 1995 for Dos 5+ or Win 3.1, so Win 95 was probably out
not too long after.
I played it in Dosbox and it played fine. Dosbox is a great invention I must
say. If it wasn't for the clever creators of DosBox, we wouldn't be able to
play all those old favourite Dos games we liked so much.
> > I did find certain Dos games played better in certain Dosbox
> > versions, and not necessarily in the latest version..
>
> Perhaps. As noman mentioned in this thread though, DOSbox 0.72 is ...
> shall we say, fine tuned. :)
Could be. I will have to download it.
Mary
noman
I played Dig on DOSBox last year. It worked fine. SCUMMVM was very
very useful early on, when DOSBox wasn't this stable, but now it just
gives you slightly more graphical upscaling options.
--
Noman
noman
<ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I think they used to have cycles=3000 set as default. I upgraded from
>DOSbox 0.65 straight to 0.72 and never noticed. Now in DOSbox 0.72
>there is cycles=auto and core=auto. Both can be left on this default
>setting and it seems to work well, if not better!
>
>With cycles=auto (DOSbox actually sets it to =max), games like Under
>A Killing Moon and Wing Commander 3 are fast and smooth as silk. :)
>
Yes, UAKM never worked properly for me before DOSBox 0.70. For some
'cycles' and 'core' values, the audio would stutter and for some, the
frame rates. I never got everything working smoothly in that game.
The new 'auto' setting changed everything. Within last six months, I
finished both UAKM and Pandora Directive over DOSBox. Never ran into
any problems.
--
Noman
noman
>"Matt v3.2" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:47884c62$1...@clear.net.nz...
>>
>> Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.
>
>I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as well as
>XP and Vista?
DaemonTools works fine on XP and Vista. It's not about DOS and Windows
games. It creates a virtual CD/DVD drive. I have played UAKM and
Pandora Directive in DOS mode over DOSBox by mounting CD images to a
virtual drive.
Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
created by DaemonTools.
I'll try out the ingmount command the next time I am playing an old
title.
--
Noman
Mary
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>
> >"Matt v3.2" <ask.for.m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:47884c62$1...@clear.net.nz...
> >>
> >> Just to be clear, Daemon Tools is for Windows games.
> >
> >I forgot that Daemon Tools is for Windows games. Is it for Win 98 as well
as
> >XP and Vista?
>
> DaemonTools works fine on XP and Vista. It's not about DOS and Windows
> games. It creates a virtual CD/DVD drive. I have played UAKM and
> Pandora Directive in DOS mode over DOSBox by mounting CD images to a
> virtual drive.
>
> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
> created by DaemonTools.
If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you need
Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
> I'll try out the ingmount command the next time I am playing an old
> title.
OK, let me know.
Mary
Matt v3.2
>> And by the way, it is iMgmount (m, not n) As in "image mount" :)
>
> Yes, I knew that. Typing mistake :p I wish I was better at figuring
> out about virtual drives though. Oh well, we can't be good at
> everything, can we? :)
No, but then if we were, would we really want to put our teachers out
of work? ;)
Well, we've only been *talking* about virtual drives (etc). I find it
easier to figure things out by giving them a go - "you cannot learn to
swim without getting in the water" - as my teacher used to say. :)
Besides, it is far less complicated than you think. The first step of
saving a CD image is as easy as using a Windows "Save As" dialog. (In
fact, it is exactly that)
At any rate, when you want to give it a go, I'll step you through it.
:) (I'll promise not to throw you in the deep end ;D)
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};> Matt v3.2 <:{
Matt v3.2
> It's not about DOS and Windows games.
> It creates a virtual CD/DVD drive.
Yah, but I was trying to explain the relevance to MaryJ. :)
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};> Matt v3.2 <:{
mick
> "noman" <no_...@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
> news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
>> created by DaemonTools.
>
> If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
> need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in your
drive. As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
mich
Mary
> Mary typed on Mon 14 Jan 2008 5:19 PM:
> >> And by the way, it is iMgmount (m, not n) As in "image mount" :)
> >
> > Yes, I knew that. Typing mistake :p I wish I was better at figuring
> > out about virtual drives though. Oh well, we can't be good at
> > everything, can we? :)
>
> No, but then if we were, would we really want to put our teachers out
> of work? ;)
Not only teachers, everybody who we often deal with - significant others and
others :)
> Well, we've only been *talking* about virtual drives (etc). I find it
> easier to figure things out by giving them a go - "you cannot learn to
> swim without getting in the water" - as my teacher used to say. :)
>
> Besides, it is far less complicated than you think. The first step of
> saving a CD image is as easy as using a Windows "Save As" dialog. (In
> fact, it is exactly that)
Hmmm-. I'll take your word for that Matt :)
> At any rate, when you want to give it a go, I'll step you through it.
> :) (I'll promise not to throw you in the deep end ;D)
I'll take you up on that if or when I am ever read to jump into the shallow
end.
Mary
Mary
> Mary wrote:
> > "noman" <no_...@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
> > news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
> >> created by DaemonTools.
> >
> > If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
> > need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>
> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
> Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in your
> drive.
Thats after you have installed the whole game - right? But when you install
a game from a CD, you don't install all the files for the game to run do ou?
I thought that why you need the CD in the drive?
>As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind looking
stupid as long as I learn and understand things :)
Mary
Jenny100
> "mick" <coughcough.@privacy.com> wrote in message
> news:E9mjj.61946$h35....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Mary wrote:
>> > "noman" <no_...@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
>> > news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
>> >> created by DaemonTools.
>> >
>> > If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do you
>> > need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>>
>> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded into
>> Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually CD`s in your
>> drive.
>
> Thats after you have installed the whole game - right?
Better to do it before, and then mount the game CD images and install the
game from the image of CD1.
>But when you install a game from a CD, you don't install all the files
>for the game to run do you? I thought that why you need the CD in the
>drive?
If you have the image of the CD mounted, you don't need the CD in the
drive. All the information the game needs is on that image.
>>As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
>> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
>
> I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind looking
> stupid as long as I learn and understand things :)
The easiest way to get it to make sense is to work with it. The image of
the game CD replaces the game CD. Mounting the image is like putting the
CD in the drive.
Mary
news:pan.2008.01.17....@nospam.com...
I'll think about if and when the time comes. Thanks Jenny.
Mary
mick
> "mick" <coughcough.@privacy.com> wrote in message
> news:E9mjj.61946$h35....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> Mary wrote:
>>> "noman" <no_...@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
>>> news:i4hqo3piktjmiuqhd...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:40 -0500, "Mary" <n...@invalid.ddd> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Internally in DOSBox, I then mount the d drive to the virutal one
>>>> created by DaemonTools.
>>>
>>> If you can play UAKM and Pandora Directive in Dosbox 0.70, why do
>>> you need Daemon Tools? Only so you don't have to change the CD"s?
>>
>> Yes, you have CD image files on your hard drive which, when loaded
>> into Daemon Tools, appear to the system as if they were actually
>> CD`s in your drive.
>
> Thats after you have installed the whole game - right?
Doesn`t usually make any difference apart from in the following
circumstance -
Example:
Let`s say your *real* CDdrive is E:
And your virtual drive is set to F:
If install the game from drive E: (real drive)
Then mount the .iso image file as virtual drive F: in DamonTools
with some games, when you try to run the game it will look for the CD in
drive E: (the drive it was installed from) instead of F:
so it`s usually best to install the game from the image.
What you will find is when you install a disk image into DTools it will
autorun the setup program for the game in just the same way as it would if
you put a real CD or DVD into your real drive. They work exactly the same
way.
> But when you
> install a game from a CD, you don't install all the files for the
> game to run do ou? I thought that why you need the CD in the drive?
Depends. Some games give you the option of doing a full or partial install.
If you do a partial install then you have the advantage that virtual drives
are faster than real drives so any delay there is while the game loads
information from the CD/DVD will be much reduced.
>> As Damon Tools can have four CD`s mounted at any one time then you
>> can see the advantage. They will also work faster.
>
> I have an idea how this works, but not completely. I don't mind
> looking stupid as long as I learn and understand things :)
Having gone through three drives now I almost always use DT to save on wear
and tear. As for looking stupid, we all have had to learn at sometime:-)
It`s one of those things that sounds far more complicated than it actually
is.
mick