OT: Which font do you use for your mail/NG program
Ashikaga
Anywayz, making things brief. I would like to make a survey.
Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
If you use other fonts, please choose Arial if it's sans serif, and Times
New Roman if it's a serifed font (serif is the little extra tail at the
corners of the font, sans serif means there is no serif)
Thanks in advance
Ashikaga
Rikard Peterson
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> Hi, while Daniel and I were rambling, we ran into this asci art
> thingy. Anywayz, making things brief. I would like to make a survey.
OK.
> Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
No, not really.
> If you use other fonts, please choose Arial if it's sans serif, and
> Times New Roman if it's a serifed font (serif is the little extra
> tail at the corners of the font, sans serif means there is no serif)
I use Ludida Console in Outlook Express. Yes, you did ask Arial or
Times, but this is really a third category: A monospaced font. (Yes, it
is sans serif, but I think it qualifies as a third category.)
To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and Times,
I'd choose Times.
(Unwanted info:)
(Window Captions: Freehand 591 - Never a normal font there!)
(Menus: Zaph Calligraphic - A nice serif font)
(Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
(Handwriting: Ubwacs - Sans serif)
> Thanks in advance
Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
> Ashikaga
/Rikard
Ashikaga
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> Ashikaga <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> skrev i
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> > Hi, while Daniel and I were rambling, we ran into this asci art
> > thingy. Anywayz, making things brief. I would like to make a survey.
>
> OK.
>
> > Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
>
> No, not really.
>
> > If you use other fonts, please choose Arial if it's sans serif, and
> > Times New Roman if it's a serifed font (serif is the little extra
> > tail at the corners of the font, sans serif means there is no serif)
>
> I use Ludida Console in Outlook Express. Yes, you did ask Arial or
> Times, but this is really a third category: A monospaced font. (Yes, it
> is sans serif, but I think it qualifies as a third category.)
Heh, let me put my response for that one on hold to keep this survey object.
But there is a reason why I ask are you a Arial person or a Times person. I
would agree "Lucida" Console should be categorized as the third alternative,
but only special people would use that as the default font. Hehehe.
> To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
> posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and Times,
> I'd choose Times.
That would be contradictory in my opinion. Maybe you are a schizo?
(nevermind, you are a musician... ;-p) 9 out of the ten Arial people would
love sans serif fonts over other serifas (this is one of those researches
done by a subjective person, and sampling size is less than the one stated
in stat.... In another word, I am BSing). None of my Windows system fonts
is a serifa (though some are monotypes, like LC)
> (Unwanted info:)
> (Window Captions: Freehand 591 - Never a normal font there!)
You mean the message box? I am using Univers now, but that one I never have
a resident font. I use what I like at the moment.
If you mean Tool Tip, I usually use some bolded sans serif font with light
apple green background, otherwise it'll be an off-white shade which is
slightly yellower than beige.
> (Menus: Zaph Calligraphic - A nice serif font)
I am using Verdana now, but that's because I just reinstalled Windows not
long ago, and didn't have a chance to devote hours of configurating system
fonts. When in doubt, Verdana works under almost all situation.
> (Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
Very good taste. ;-)
> (Handwriting: Ubwacs - Sans serif)
I prefer Metrostyle for all my project papers. Metrostyle Extended for
headings. They are rounder than Arial and Verdana, but squarer than Kabel.
I got those Metrostyles (regular and Extended) with HP's Laserjet and they
look very professional.
Other fonts I like are Futura (Light) and AvantGarde (obviously, there is a
pattern here... ;-)). I also use Andale Mono and Gill Sans (for monotypes).
> > Thanks in advance
>
> Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
It's a common courtesy. Here, you have my gratitude again. :-)
> /Rikard
Ashikaga
don
Ashikaga wrote:
>
> Hi, while Daniel and I were rambling, we ran into this asci art thingy.
> Anywayz, making things brief. I would like to make a survey.
>
> Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
Mine says:
Variable Width Font: Times New Roman Size: 12
Fixed Width Font: Courier New Size: 10
I have no idea what they are since I've never had any reason to change
the fonts from the default settings. If something looks too small to
read easily, I just hit the "Increase Font" keys.
Why are you asking people to use certain fonts? Doesn't your newsreader
show all the messages in the font you have set rather than the one the
person who wrote the message uses?
Rikard Peterson
> "Rikard Peterson" <trumg...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > Ashikaga <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> skrev:
> > > If you use other fonts, please choose Arial if it's sans serif,
> > > and Times New Roman if it's a serifed font (serif is the little
> > > extra tail at the corners of the font, sans serif means there is
> > > no serif)
> >
> > I use Ludida Console in Outlook Express. Yes, you did ask Arial or
> > Times, but this is really a third category: A monospaced font.
> > (Yes, it is sans serif, but I think it qualifies as a third
> > category.)
>
> Heh, let me put my response for that one on hold to keep this survey
> object. But there is a reason why I ask are you a Arial person or a
> Times person. I would agree "Lucida" Console should be categorized
> as the third alternative, but only special people would use that as
> the default font. Hehehe.
(Oops. spelling error) One reason I use it is that it makes the
occasional ascii art readable, one reason is that I like it, but the
biggest reason is probably that it makes it easier to see how long the
lines are. That way I can move a word i a quote down a row maually,
instead of OE putting it ugly all by itself in between the rows.
> > To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
> > posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and
> > Times, I'd choose Times.
>
> That would be contradictory in my opinion. Maybe you are a schizo?
> (nevermind, you are a musician... ;-p) 9 out of the ten Arial people
> would love sans serif fonts over other serifas (this is one of those
> researches done by a subjective person, and sampling size is less
> than the one stated in stat.... In another word, I am BSing). None
> of my Windows system fonts is a serifa (though some are monotypes,
> like LC)
I guess I'm basically a serif person, but I prefer Lucida over Courier,
the standard choice for monospaced fonts.
> > (Unwanted info:)
> > (Window Captions: Freehand 591 - Never a normal font there!)
>
> You mean the message box? I am using Univers now, but that one I
> never have a resident font. I use what I like at the moment.
No, I mean the top row of the window, with the program's name. (The
official name of that is window caption.) Message box text should be
easy readable.
> If you mean Tool Tip, I usually use some bolded sans serif font with
> light apple green background, otherwise it'll be an off-white shade
> which is slightly yellower than beige.
How do you change that? It's not in the normal settings. Or maybe you
are using a later windows than 98?
> > (Menus: Zaph Calligraphic - A nice serif font)
>
> I am using Verdana now, but that's because I just reinstalled Windows
> not long ago, and didn't have a chance to devote hours of
> configurating system fonts. When in doubt, Verdana works under
> almost all situation.
>
> > (Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
>
> Very good taste. ;-)
Well the web page is for other people to read, so that really should be
tasteful. www.trumgottist.com ;-)
> > (Handwriting: Ubwacs - Sans serif)
>
> I prefer Metrostyle for all my project papers. Metrostyle Extended
> for headings. They are rounder than Arial and Verdana, but squarer
> than Kabel. I got those Metrostyles (regular and Extended) with HP's
> Laserjet and they look very professional.
With handwriting I meant my real handwriting, by hand. (Ugly But With A
Certain Style)
> Other fonts I like are Futura (Light) and AvantGarde (obviously,
> there is a pattern here... ;-)). I also use Andale Mono and Gill
> Sans (for monotypes).
Boring fonts. (Those I recognised, at least.)
> > > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
>
> It's a common courtesy. Here, you have my gratitude again. :-)
:-)
> > /Rikard
> Ashikaga
/Rikard
Jenny100
> Ashikaga <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> skrev :
> > >
> > If you mean Tool Tip, I usually use some bolded sans serif font with
> > light apple green background, otherwise it'll be an off-white shade
> > which is slightly yellower than beige.
>
> How do you change that? It's not in the normal settings. Or maybe you
> are using a later windows than 98?
I have Win 98.
You change the Tool Tip background in
Display Properties | Appearance
Select ToolTip from the menu box that says Item:
There are 2 boxes for color toward the lower right.
The top one lets you choose the background color.
I use a pale lavender grey color that I custom created.
Robert Norton
> Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
I have the Netscape news reader, and specify monospaced, and the font is
serif. So, it is neither font, but I am not sure what it is.
Rikard Peterson
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> >
> > Or maybe you are using a later windows than 98?
>
> I have Win 98.
>
> You change the Tool Tip background in
> Display Properties | Appearance
>
> Select ToolTip from the menu box that says Item:
> There are 2 boxes for color toward the lower right.
> The top one lets you choose the background color.
> I use a pale lavender grey color that I custom created.
Aha! I never noticed that, since it's not in the picture. (And it has a
weird name in Swedish, I had to look for a while before I found it.)
Thanks!
/ Rikard
erimess
wrote:
That makes it like a Times New Roman. Mine's on something similar to
Arial.
erimess
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
erimess
<ashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>"Rikard Peterson" <trumg...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>
>> To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
>> posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and Times,
>> I'd choose Times.
>
>That would be contradictory in my opinion. Maybe you are a schizo?
>(nevermind, you are a musician... ;-p)
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Ashikaga
> Ashikaga wrote:
> >
> > Hi, while Daniel and I were rambling, we ran into this asci art thingy.
> > Anywayz, making things brief. I would like to make a survey.
> >
> > Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
>
> Mine says:
>
> Variable Width Font: Times New Roman Size: 12
> Fixed Width Font: Courier New Size: 10
>
> I have no idea what they are since I've never had any reason to change
> the fonts from the default settings. If something looks too small to
> read easily, I just hit the "Increase Font" keys.
If you are a strong Arial person, like me, you'll actually bother to find
that setting and turn it to Arial.
> Why are you asking people to use certain fonts? Doesn't your newsreader
> show all the messages in the font you have set rather than the one the
> person who wrote the message uses?
I'll explain that after I've done this survey for my research (it's not for
school, since the school hasn't start yet...). Just something I am curious
about. Actually it would show in the font you specify in a mail/NG reader
(but not so for a web browser).
Ashikaga
Ashikaga
Does skrev means wrote?
<snipped about Lucida>
> (Oops. spelling error) One reason I use it is that it makes the
> occasional ascii art readable, one reason is that I like it, but the
> biggest reason is probably that it makes it easier to see how long the
> lines are. That way I can move a word i a quote down a row maually,
> instead of OE putting it ugly all by itself in between the rows.
Yes, I noticed that as well. Only if I like monospaced fonts for general
reading more....
> > > To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
> > > posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and
> > > Times, I'd choose Times.
> >
> > That would be contradictory in my opinion. Maybe you are a schizo?
> > (nevermind, you are a musician... ;-p) 9 out of the ten Arial people
> > would love sans serif fonts over other serifas (this is one of those
> > researches done by a subjective person, and sampling size is less
> > than the one stated in stat.... In another word, I am BSing). None
> > of my Windows system fonts is a serifa (though some are monotypes,
> > like LC)
>
> I guess I'm basically a serif person, but I prefer Lucida over Courier,
> the standard choice for monospaced fonts.
I don't particularly like Courier either, though I agree Lucida is better
than Courier. Not a lot of choice for fixed-width fonts though.
> > > (Unwanted info:)
> > > (Window Captions: Freehand 591 - Never a normal font there!)
> >
> > You mean the message box? I am using Univers now, but that one I
> > never have a resident font. I use what I like at the moment.
>
> No, I mean the top row of the window, with the program's name. (The
> official name of that is window caption.) Message box text should be
> easy readable.
Okay... then let me check which one I am using now (sometimes I use Kabel).
I am using AvantGarde right now. Yeah, I agree with that the error
reporting message box should be readable... hehe.
> > If you mean Tool Tip, I usually use some bolded sans serif font with
> > light apple green background, otherwise it'll be an off-white shade
> > which is slightly yellower than beige.
>
> How do you change that? It's not in the normal settings. Or maybe you
> are using a later windows than 98?
Jenny100 explained that very well. You can also change the icon size, icon
spaces also there. Useful if you want your icons to be readable under some
resolutions.
> > > (Menus: Zaph Calligraphic - A nice serif font)
> >
> > I am using Verdana now, but that's because I just reinstalled Windows
> > not long ago, and didn't have a chance to devote hours of
> > configurating system fonts. When in doubt, Verdana works under
> > almost all situation.
> >
> > > (Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
> >
> > Very good taste. ;-)
>
> Well the web page is for other people to read, so that really should be
> tasteful. www.trumgottist.com ;-)
Nice page. I randomly spotted a typo (I didn't do that on purpose,
really!). Your sister makes excellent "ceramics."
> > > (Handwriting: Ubwacs - Sans serif)
> >
> > I prefer Metrostyle for all my project papers. Metrostyle Extended
> > for headings. They are rounder than Arial and Verdana, but squarer
> > than Kabel. I got those Metrostyles (regular and Extended) with HP's
> > Laserjet and they look very professional.
>
> With handwriting I meant my real handwriting, by hand. (Ugly But With A
> Certain Style)
I think that describes my handwriting also. ;-) BTW, Metrostyle is not a
script font.
> > Other fonts I like are Futura (Light) and AvantGarde (obviously,
> > there is a pattern here... ;-)). I also use Andale Mono and Gill
> > Sans (for monotypes).
>
> Boring fonts. (Those I recognised, at least.)
They are not boring. They are very useful and looks especially professional
font (with an avant twist). Even an idiot would look sharp with those fonts
(but of course, I don't really need those fonts to make my term paper shine,
right? ;-))
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
> >
> > It's a common courtesy. Here, you have my gratitude again. :-)
>
> :-)
It's only a small thing. :-)
> /Rikard
Ashikaga
Ashikaga
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:49:12 GMT, "Ashikaga"
> <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >"Rikard Peterson" <trumg...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> >news:94ag4c$cok27$1...@ID-26593.news.dfncis.de...
> >
> >> To confuse things a bit more (I've been answering too many off topic
> >> posts lately) I'll add that if I have to choose between Arial and
Times,
> >> I'd choose Times.
> >
> >That would be contradictory in my opinion. Maybe you are a schizo?
> >(nevermind, you are a musician... ;-p)
>
> Hey, I resemble that remark!
;-). Heh, I've taken a very short piano lesson during my high school year,
and I believe it trained me to use left brain and right brain at once doing
multiple tasks.
> erimess
>
> You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
Ashikaga
Ashikaga
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I'll put you down under Times' user. My survey is actually asking for
whether you are a serif person or a sans serif person, but Arial and Times
New Roman are the most reconizable icons of those two types.
Ashikaga
Jenny100
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> <snipped about Lucida>
> > (Oops. spelling error) One reason I use it is that it makes the
> > occasional ascii art readable, one reason is that I like it, but the
> > biggest reason is probably that it makes it easier to see how long the
> > lines are. That way I can move a word i a quote down a row maually,
> > instead of OE putting it ugly all by itself in between the rows.
>
> Yes, I noticed that as well. Only if I like monospaced fonts for general
> reading more....
I like monospaced fonts because it makes it easier to tell if
there is a space after something if someone is giving you a
DOS command line. But I haven't found a really good-looking
one. I'd like a sans-serif type which isn't too bold or too skinny.
Where do you get all these fonts you mention in your messages?
I have Courier and Ariel and Lucida Console, but where do
you get all these others?
One problem I have with Ariel is that I can't tell an I from an l.
> > > > (Unwanted info:)
> > > > (Window Captions: Freehand 591 - Never a normal font there!)
> > >
> > > You mean the message box? I am using Univers now, but that one I
> > > never have a resident font. I use what I like at the moment.
> >
> > No, I mean the top row of the window, with the program's name. (The
> > official name of that is window caption.) Message box text should be
> > easy readable.
>
> Okay... then let me check which one I am using now (sometimes I use
Kabel).
> I am using AvantGarde right now. Yeah, I agree with that the error
> reporting message box should be readable... hehe.
>
Ashikaga
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> "Ashikaga" <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:CLsa6.4028$Mu1.2...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > <snipped about Lucida>
> > > (Oops. spelling error) One reason I use it is that it makes the
> > > occasional ascii art readable, one reason is that I like it, but the
> > > biggest reason is probably that it makes it easier to see how long the
> > > lines are. That way I can move a word i a quote down a row maually,
> > > instead of OE putting it ugly all by itself in between the rows.
> >
> > Yes, I noticed that as well. Only if I like monospaced fonts for
general
> > reading more....
>
> I like monospaced fonts because it makes it easier to tell if
> there is a space after something if someone is giving you a
> DOS command line. But I haven't found a really good-looking
> one. I'd like a sans-serif type which isn't too bold or too skinny.
>
> Where do you get all these fonts you mention in your messages?
> I have Courier and Ariel and Lucida Console, but where do
> you get all these others?
I am a font freak, so I have tons of them. I think I get most of them from
WordPerfect 2000, which has so many fonts, that the program itself warn me
not to install all or it'll slow down Windows performance (I think you can't
have more than 500 fonts or the system will be slowed down). I don't know
if I can send you those fonts because they might be copyrighted. (hint:
send me an email)
There are tons of free font sites on the net, but I know how hard it is to
find those fonts just in one site. If you are looking for monospaced
fonts, I think Andale Mono is particularly good. That one and Verdana also
Univers, I believe, (which are not monotype) can be obtained if you use
Windows Update and I think it's in the Additional Web Fonts package. I
found out that Gil Sans isn't really monospaced... it just looks like one.
Kabel, AvantGarde, I am afraid they are from WP2000. I thought Futura is
one of the original Windows fonts, but I can be wrong. Metrostyle, like I
mentioned comes with a HP LaserJet. They are very useable everyday fonts
(Kabel is not too serious looking for a term paper though, but good enough
for Windows title bar), so they are not something wicked exciting, which I
can find tons on the net, but never use it after I downloaded it.
I just found a font called Goudy Old Style... hehehe, someone might know
what the joke is. ;-)
> One problem I have with Ariel is that I can't tell an I from an l.
Heh, you got your point accrossed.
<snip>
Ashikaga
Rikard Peterson
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> > Ashikaga <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> skrev :
>
> Does skrev means wrote?
Yes. (But it can also mean crutch.)
> > > > (Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
> > >
> > > Very good taste. ;-)
> >
> > Well the web page is for other people to read, so that really
> > should be tasteful. www.trumgottist.com ;-)
>
> Nice page. I randomly spotted a typo (I didn't do that on purpose,
> really!). Your sister makes excellent "ceramics."
Thanks! The mis-spelling has been sitting there for a long time. It's
about time to get rid of it. (It wasn't a typo, I was simply confused
about the spelling.)
> > With handwriting I meant my real handwriting, by hand. (Ugly But
> > With A Certain Style)
>
> I think that describes my handwriting also. ;-) BTW, Metrostyle is
> not a script font.
>
> > > Other fonts I like are Futura (Light) and AvantGarde (obviously,
> > > there is a pattern here... ;-)). I also use Andale Mono and Gill
> > > Sans (for monotypes).
> >
> > Boring fonts. (Those I recognised, at least.)
>
> They are not boring. They are very useful and looks especially
> professional font (with an avant twist). Even an idiot would look
> sharp with those fonts (but of course, I don't really need those
> fonts to make my term paper shine, right? ;-))
No, you could use shiny paper. ;-)
> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > >
> > > > Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
> > >
> > > It's a common courtesy. Here, you have my gratitude again. :-)
> >
> > :-)
>
> It's only a small thing. :-)
It's the small things that count.
> Ashikaga
/ Rikard
don
Ashikaga wrote:
>
> > Ashikaga <ashi...@worldnet.att.net> skrev :
> > > "Rikard Peterson" <trumg...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> Does skrev means wrote?
It comes from the same Germanic root as the German "schreib" (pronounced
like "bribe") from which we get the words "scribe" and "inscribe"
Ashikaga
> Ashikaga skrev...
> >
> > Does skrev means wrote?
>
> Yes. (But it can also mean crutch.)
That's quite weird for a word with two radical departure of meanings (in
English, at least).
> > > > > (Web page: Verdana - A very readable sans serif)
> > > >
> > > > Very good taste. ;-)
> > >
> > > Well the web page is for other people to read, so that really
> > > should be tasteful. www.trumgottist.com ;-)
> >
> > Nice page. I randomly spotted a typo (I didn't do that on purpose,
> > really!). Your sister makes excellent "ceramics."
>
> Thanks! The mis-spelling has been sitting there for a long time. It's
> about time to get rid of it. (It wasn't a typo, I was simply confused
> about the spelling.)
It's a weird word in any case.
> > > With handwriting I meant my real handwriting, by hand. (Ugly But
> > > With A Certain Style)
> >
> > I think that describes my handwriting also. ;-) BTW, Metrostyle is
> > not a script font.
> >
> > > > Other fonts I like are Futura (Light) and AvantGarde (obviously,
> > > > there is a pattern here... ;-)). I also use Andale Mono and Gill
> > > > Sans (for monotypes).
> > >
> > > Boring fonts. (Those I recognised, at least.)
> >
> > They are not boring. They are very useful and looks especially
> > professional font (with an avant twist). Even an idiot would look
> > sharp with those fonts (but of course, I don't really need those
> > fonts to make my term paper shine, right? ;-))
>
> No, you could use shiny paper. ;-)
Then I'll look like some corporate people. ;-)
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks? For this? You're welcome.
> > > >
> > > > It's a common courtesy. Here, you have my gratitude again. :-)
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > It's only a small thing. :-)
>
> It's the small things that count.
Hehe... sounds like a gift card commercial.
> / Rikard
Ashikaga
Kars
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> > > Does skrev means wrote?
> >
> > Yes. (But it can also mean crutch.)
>
> That's quite weird for a word with two radical departure of meanings (in
> English, at least).
follows normal grammatical rules for declination (word?)
of verbs. Then it just happens to be same combination of letters
as a certain noun. Oh, and it's not "crutch", but "crotch" :-)
-Fredrik
Ashikaga
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LOL.
> -Fredrik
Ashikaga
Geoffrey Tobin
...
> (Menus: Zaph Calligraphic - A nice serif font)
"Zaph"? The typographer Hermann Zapf is not a relative
of Galactic President Beeblebrox.
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Best wishes!
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Rikard Peterson
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I looked it up in my dictionary, and it lists both spellings with do
distinction between them.
/ Rikard
Madness
>>> Hi, while Daniel and I were rambling, we ran into this
>>> asci art thingy. Anywayz, making things brief. I would
>>> like to make a survey.
<snipped survey>
> Heh, let me put my response for that one on hold to keep
> this survey object. But there is a reason why I ask are you
> a Arial person or a Times person.
Well?!? :-)
Anyway.. I slightly prefer the Arial type over Times, and I
have the sizes punched up enough to make them smooth
in OE. What does this have to do with ascii art anyway?
They are both equally useless at spacing the letters.
};> Madness <:{
Ashikaga
It seems it's kinda a half-half split among Arial and Times New Roman (there
is another font called Times). Well, it has nothing to do with spacing. I
asked them because it's a personality test. Usually the people who use TNR
are what I would call old-fashioned people (nice and proper). In another
word, Danielish ;-). Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean Arial people are
the direct opposite of that, but they are less likely to care about forms.
Though I have this believe that more yuppies would use Arial than TNR (and
if they are radical enough, they'll use some unconventional fonts).
The personal reason why I prefer Arial over TNR is that TNR, IMO, is
extremely boring. People who use TNR probably think it's just a font, but I
see fonts as expressions of ourselves. I don't know if you guyz would
agree. I much prefer Arial, Verdana, or Metrostyle over the TNR sorts. I
just feel they are more refreshing and cleaner than serif fonts. Those
overly-styled cursives are even more cumbersome, and I can't find an
instance why I would want to use them (I guess it suggests that I am not a
romantic).
I hope I fulfilled your curiousity why I did that test. This is not a
scientific experiment in any way. It's just something I did for fun, so
don't take it too seriously.
> };> Madness <:{
Ashikaga
Rikard Peterson
diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:ZkHb6.8482$cN.5...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worl
dnet.att.net...
> It seems it's kinda a half-half split among Arial and Times New Roman
> (there is another font called Times). Well, it has nothing to do with
> spacing. I asked them because it's a personality test. Usually the
> people who use TNR are what I would call old-fashioned people (nice
> and proper). In another word, Danielish ;-). Don't get me wrong,
> that doesn't mean Arial people are the direct opposite of that, but
> they are less likely to care about forms. Though I have this believe
> that more yuppies would use Arial than TNR (and if they are radical
> enough, they'll use some unconventional fonts).
>
> The personal reason why I prefer Arial over TNR is that TNR, IMO, is
> extremely boring. People who use TNR probably think it's just a
> font, but I see fonts as expressions of ourselves. I don't know if
> you guyz would agree. I much prefer Arial, Verdana, or Metrostyle
> over the TNR sorts. I just feel they are more refreshing and cleaner
> than serif fonts. Those overly-styled cursives are even more
> cumbersome, and I can't find an instance why I would want to use
> them (I guess it suggests that I am not a romantic).
I think sans serif fonts can be too sterile and unpersonal (not that TNR
is especially personal, but still). Sure, it is a bit different, since
all (?) books and most newspapers use serif fonts. I am of course not
saying that using an sans serif font looks unpersonal period. I do use
Verdana on my web page, and I think that the font should be chosen to
fit the context and style. Every font that's not extreme is a candidate
for me. (And I can use extreme fonts for special things.)
> I hope I fulfilled your curiousity why I did that test. This is not
> a scientific experiment in any way. It's just something I did for
> fun, so don't take it too seriously.
>
> Ashikaga
/ Rikard
Jenny100
>
>
> It seems it's kinda a half-half split among Arial and Times New Roman
(there
> is another font called Times). Well, it has nothing to do with spacing.
I
> asked them because it's a personality test. Usually the people who use
TNR
> are what I would call old-fashioned people (nice and proper). In another
> word, Danielish ;-). Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean Arial people
are
> the direct opposite of that, but they are less likely to care about forms.
> Though I have this believe that more yuppies would use Arial than TNR (and
> if they are radical enough, they'll use some unconventional fonts).
>
> The personal reason why I prefer Arial over TNR is that TNR, IMO, is
> extremely boring. People who use TNR probably think it's just a font, but
I
> see fonts as expressions of ourselves. I don't know if you guyz would
> agree. I much prefer Arial, Verdana, or Metrostyle over the TNR sorts. I
> just feel they are more refreshing and cleaner than serif fonts. Those
> overly-styled cursives are even more cumbersome, and I can't find an
> instance why I would want to use them (I guess it suggests that I am not a
> romantic).
>
> I hope I fulfilled your curiousity why I did that test. This is not a
> scientific experiment in any way. It's just something I did for fun, so
> don't take it too seriously.
>
Since you're interested in fonts, you might be interested in the
article on typography that I found at
http://www0.delphi.com/dtp/typography/type01.html
Especially interesting (I thought) was what it had to say about
Arial :
"Ariel (Monotype)
This sans serif typeface -- a variation of Helvetica -- is so ubiquitous
it may be hard to imagine that it is a relatively recent (1957) creation.
There seem to be two major cultural problems with Helvetica. One is
that, because of its ready availability as a "core font" of the Macintosh
and then of Microsoft Windows, it has become a little too familiar to
many of us. Another is that your reader might hear a little voice saying
"Internal Revenue Service." Yes, Helvetica is a core font of the 1040
and its brethren and sistren, and this may not be a cultural reference
you wish to adopt.
There is a more persistent problem with all sans serif typefaces -- at
least in North America. While in short bursts they can, and often do,
look more dynamic than the common serifs, over the long haul the
simplicity of the characters makes them somewhat less distinctive
and recognizable. The eye and the brain interpret letters and words;
most of us do so largely on an unconscious level, but it is not an
automatic process, and for many readers the absence of serifs
means the absence of certain familiar visual "cues" that aid in the
interpretative process. "
The above is from
http://www0.delphi.com/dtp/typography/type04.html
I thought the observation about the absense of serifs and letter
recognition was interesting. I can't say as I've ever noticed what
font the IRS uses. I usually associate Arial with newsgroups,
not the IRS.
Ashikaga
trivia though.
Ashikaga
"Jenny100" <Jenn...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Matthew W. Miller
>On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:51:34 -0600, Robert Norton <r...@execpc.com>
>wrote:
>>Ashikaga wrote:
>>> Are you an Arial person or a Times New Roman person?
>>I have the Netscape news reader, and specify monospaced, and the font is
>>serif. So, it is neither font, but I am not sure what it is.
>That makes it like a Times New Roman.
Monospaced, he said! Probably Courier (New).
>Mine's on something similar to Arial.
Probably Lucida Typewriter.
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