Riddle of Master Lu ...Help running!
Penny Munoz
no manual.
I have not used DOS in years so am having trouble running this game.
It seems to have installed ok as pur instructions in the read me
file. BUT! They say to "run" it using the instructions in the MANUAL!! No
manual to use..ssoooo!
I did go to the properties of the .exe and set it to run in DOS and
have the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files showing up although I don't know
if they are right for the game and no mouse driver is listed in them though.
When I go to the MSDOS icon to run the game is says something about
using MASTERLU to run the game??? There is no Masterlu in any of the files
I see in the directory for the game. The command path says
C:\Riddle\Riddle.exe to run it!
I restart the computer to F4 and it starts in DOS loadup, but then says
something about no EMM386 ? But goes back to restart the computer before I
can read anything better.
That line IS in the CONFIG listings, so I don't know whats going on.
I really hate DOS but I didn't know that this game only ran in it, but I
do want to play it.
My system is Win 98, but has the same things to set up a DOS game
like in Win 95.
Please help!!! I know some of you have played this game and your
expertise is really needed now.......!!!!! Thank You.......AGAIN!
( this is not the first time I've called on all you wonderful gamers)
Penny Munoz ( Lady Gamer )
pen...@icehouse.net
Someone told me to Smile..that things could be worse!!
Well I smiled and sure enough things got worse!!!!
Rohan Parkes
pen...@icehouse.net says...
> I got the game from a computer store on the net, but it came with
> no manual.
I have been having this exact problem - I gather it expects to be run
from the CD in DOS mode, but for that you need DOS CD-ROM drivers, an
they don't seem to come with recent CD-ROMs.
Still, it should be able to run after selecting Reboot to DOS, but I
always get an error saying my mouse driver isn't current.
--
Rohan Parkes
Melbourne
Australia
trymhel
"Penny Munoz" <pen...@icehouse.net> wrote in message
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me to play the game, and you're not going to be able to play it properly
unless you've got a 386, 8 MB RAM, so I suggest you stop trying. It's only
gonna give you a headache.
Trym
--
"It's only illegal if you get caught"
Bob R
Penny Munoz wrote in message
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> I did go to the properties of the .exe and set it to run in DOS and
>have the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files showing up although I don't know
>if they are right for the game and no mouse driver is listed in them
though.
> When I go to the MSDOS icon to run the game is says something about
>using MASTERLU to run the game??? There is no Masterlu in any of the files
>I see in the directory for the game. The command path says
>C:\Riddle\Riddle.exe to run it!
<Masterlu.bat>
@echo off
REM *******************************************************
REM ** This is a batch file to run, Riddle of Master Lu. **
REM ** It was created with the 'SETUP' program, please **
REM ** use it to change this batch file. **
REM *******************************************************
riddle -c %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
> I restart the computer to F4 and it starts in DOS loadup, but then
says
>something about no EMM386 ? But goes back to restart the computer >before I
can read anything better.
> That line IS in the CONFIG listings, so I don't know whats going on.
> I really hate DOS but I didn't know that this game only ran in it, but I
>do want to play it.
> My system is Win 98, but has the same things to set up a DOS game
>like in Win 95.
> Penny Munoz ( Lady Gamer )
Patch:
Do a search for 'roml205.exe' on the net. It may not fix your immediate
problem, but, you will need to apply this patch before you start to play (or
else give up all your saved-games).
Right click 'Masterlu.bat', select program/advanced. Put:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DOS=high,UMB
in the 'config' window.
If it gives you an error about emm386, remove the 'NOEMS' switch.
You may need to add the CD device and mouse driver lines too.
Post again (with error messages) if you still have trouble.
Bob R
Jenny100
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with
> no manual.
> I have not used DOS in years so am having trouble running this game.
> It seems to have installed ok as pur instructions in the read me
> file. BUT! They say to "run" it using the instructions in the MANUAL!! No
> manual to use..ssoooo!
> I did go to the properties of the .exe and set it to run in DOS and
> have the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files showing up although I don't
know
> if they are right for the game and no mouse driver is listed in them
though.
> When I go to the MSDOS icon to run the game is says something about
> using MASTERLU to run the game??? There is no Masterlu in any of the
files
> I see in the directory for the game.
> The command path says
> C:\Riddle\Riddle.exe to run it!
You should have gotten a manual, even if it is just a jewel case insert
sort of a manual.
There should be a Masterlu.bat file, assuming the game installed
properly. The Masterlu.bat will start the Riddle.exe program.
> I restart the computer to F4 and it starts in DOS loadup, but then
says
> something about no EMM386 ? But goes back to restart the computer before I
> can read anything better.
> That line IS in the CONFIG listings, so I don't know whats going on.
The game box also had a little card that says you must start Windows
normally, then select Shutdown from the Start menu, then click
on Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode. This may do
something that F4 does not. I don't know.
You do need himem.sys loaded in the config.sys or emm386 won't
load. Also make sure the paths are correct. On my computer they
are
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Make sure the EMM386 and HIMEM files actually exist in the
folders specified by the DEVICE= lines.
Check your EMM386 line to see if it says RAM or NOEMS after
it. If it says RAM, that might cause a problem. The Readme says
that Riddle uses XMS. I think either
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE
or
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
would work OK.
> I really hate DOS but I didn't know that this game only ran in it, but
I
> do want to play it.
> My system is Win 98, but has the same things to set up a DOS game
> like in Win 95.
I got it to work on a Win 98 system, but it was an older computer -
a K-6 233 MHz. I've heard of someone who got it working on a
Pentium II with 450 MHz. I don't know if you'd need a PC slowdown
utility for faster computers.
Rohan Parkes
says...
>
> You should have gotten a manual, even if it is just a jewel case insert
> sort of a manual.
The game doesn't ship in a jewel case - just a paper sleave. There's no
manual, but there is a Word document on the disk giving a few setup tips.
It does claim that the game can be run on Win 95 systems, but doesn't
give any of the information you have provided.
Jenny100
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The game I got from Chips & Bits had the CD in a jewel case
with a jewel case-sized manual stuck in it. The box also included
the usual advertising stuff (of games no longer extant) and the
card I mentioned. The game CD also has a .doc file.
My game was only about $5, but it sounds like there were cheaper
versions produced.
For a mouse driver, CuteMouse worked fine with Riddle of Master Lu.
You can get it here
http://www.vein.hu/~nagyd/
I think I used version 1.6, but there's a newer one now.
Murray Peterson
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> I got it to work on a Win 98 system, but it was an older computer -
> a K-6 233 MHz. I've heard of someone who got it working on a
> Pentium II with 450 MHz. I don't know if you'd need a PC slowdown
> utility for faster computers.
I ran it on Win98, with a PII450 and it seemed to run just fine (I only
played for about an hour). If I remember correctly, I even ran it in a DOS
window, and didn't even bother booting to DOS.
--
Murray Peterson
Email: murray_...@home.com (remove underscore)
URL: http://www.members.home.net/murraypeterson
Rohan Parkes
says...
> I ran it on Win98, with a PII450 and it seemed to run just fine (I only
> played for about an hour). If I remember correctly, I even ran it in a DOS
> window, and didn't even bother booting to DOS.
Could you explain what actual steps you took to get it to work? I got
the setup to run in a DOS box, but after that, I couldn't get anywhere.
It looks like the main problem is that the Masterlu.bat file doesn't get
created by Setup. This appears to have been Penny's problem as well.
Murray Peterson
> Could you explain what actual steps you took to get it to work? I got
> the setup to run in a DOS box, but after that, I couldn't get anywhere.
>
> It looks like the main problem is that the Masterlu.bat file doesn't get
> created by Setup. This appears to have been Penny's problem as well.
I honestly can't remember -- I'll have to redo the installation and get
back to you. I opened my game just now, and noticed that I have a floppy
with a patch on it. You might want to download the patch and try that in
the meantime. You can find it at:
http://www.pcgameworld.com/patches/t/TheRiddleofMasterLu2.05.htm
Murray Peterson
> It looks like the main problem is that the Masterlu.bat file doesn't
> get created by Setup. This appears to have been Penny's problem as
> well.
Ok, I am fighting the setup right now, but I can at least tell you why
masterlu.bat isn't being created. If the setup isn't 100% happy with the
auto-detect of your sound card, it won't generate the bat file. Try
running "setup -n" which turns off the auto detect, and do the sound card
settings manually.
Penny Munoz
the masterlu.bat file that was missing before showed up after I did a
reinstall over the first install and did the "Max." install and let the
sound setup detect my sound card and settings for me. I
hope this mouse driver is the last thing needed because I'm determand to get
this running...not going to let beat me!!!
Penny (LadyGamer)
Rohan Parkes wrote in message ...
Rohan Parkes
says...
> Rohan Parkes <rpa...@email.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.1589eed2...@news.labyrinth.net.au:
>
> > It looks like the main problem is that the Masterlu.bat file doesn't
> > get created by Setup. This appears to have been Penny's problem as
> > well.
>
> Ok, I am fighting the setup right now, but I can at least tell you why
> masterlu.bat isn't being created. If the setup isn't 100% happy with the
> auto-detect of your sound card, it won't generate the bat file. Try
> running "setup -n" which turns off the auto detect, and do the sound card
> settings manually.
Thanks for that explanation. I'll try again.
Unfortunately, it looks like the patch is no longer available on that
server.
Murray Peterson
> Unfortunately, it looks like the patch is no longer available on that
> server.
Strange -- I downloaded it from there just before posting. If you do a
search, you should find alternate locations.
Jenny100
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It's listed here
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/index4.html
and here
http://dlh.net/english.html
but you have to look it up under "T" for THE Riddle of Master Lu.
Murray Peterson
> In article <Xns90B8CCDF...@24.64.2.57>, m...@home.com.invalid
Ok -- I just got Riddle of Master Lu working under a DOS window under
Windows98 without having to boot to DOS at all.
Set up a DOS shortcut, and set it up as follows (properties):
- run as a full screen app.
- Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows
- Some memory settings CANNOT be left on auto
Total = Auto
Initial Environment = 1024
Expanded (EMS) memory = 10240
Extended (XMS) emmory = Auto
DPM memory = Auto
I ran setup, and then masterlu.bat, and the game started up just fine.
Penny Munoz
With that help I got the game playing with out a hitch..sound,
mouse, everything works! Did what you suggested in post...Put the
MasterLu.bat file on the desktop as a shortcut..clicked on it and THERE IT
WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did you figure it out? I've spent hours trying to get it
to run, finally got the mouse driver on DOS and at the prompt after going to
DOS start up it showed that it was there and looked happy, then boom! next
screen after entering the command to start the game, it said MOUSE DRIVER
NOT FOUND, etc.!!!!!!! AHHHH!
I was ready to throw in the towel when your post showed
up.....BLESS YOU! OH! GREAT GOD OF GAMING!!!!!!!!
Penny (LadyGamer)
Murray Peterson wrote in message ...
Murray Peterson
> Thank You so much!!!!
Your very welcome.
> How did you figure it out?
The basic thing I have learned about getting old games to play is this:
never boot to DOS, and always use the Win98 DOS shell windows. They are
far more configurable, have all of the drivers you need, and you can monkey
around with memory settings in ways that bare bones DOS just won't let you
do. So far, the only DOS games that I can't get to work doing this are the
ones where my sound card and.or videocard just isn't compatible.
> I was ready to throw in the towel when your post showed up.....
Never give up -- stubborness is a virtue when trying to get old games to
work.
> BLESS YOU! OH! GREAT GOD OF GAMING!!!!!!!!
I can only wish I that was true :-)
Jenny100
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>
>
> The basic thing I have learned about getting old games to play is this:
> never boot to DOS, and always use the Win98 DOS shell windows.
Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried
to play it this way.
> They are
> far more configurable, have all of the drivers you need, and you can
monkey
> around with memory settings in ways that bare bones DOS just won't let you
> do. So far, the only DOS games that I can't get to work doing this are
the
> ones where my sound card and.or videocard just isn't compatible.
Did you have an SBLive?
Is there a way to make a DOS game use the SBLive's Windows
sound instead of its DOS emulation sound?
> > I was ready to throw in the towel when your post showed up.....
>
> Never give up -- stubborness is a virtue when trying to get old games to
> work.
>
> > BLESS YOU! OH! GREAT GOD OF GAMING!!!!!!!!
Well, MaryJ seems to have a knack for getting old games to work too.
She can be the goddess of gaming (or at least of DOS gaming).
Jenny100
>
> Ok -- I just got Riddle of Master Lu working under a DOS window under
> Windows98 without having to boot to DOS at all.
>
> Set up a DOS shortcut, and set it up as follows (properties):
>
> - run as a full screen app.
> - Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows
> - Some memory settings CANNOT be left on auto
> Total = Auto
> Initial Environment = 1024
> Expanded (EMS) memory = 10240
I have a little check box under Extended (XMS) memory
that says Uses HMA. Would I want to leave it checked (as it
is now)? Is HMA high memory allocation or something like
that? What is it for?
Murray Peterson
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> "Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns90BB1B56...@24.64.2.57...
>>
>>
>> The basic thing I have learned about getting old games to play is
>> this: never boot to DOS, and always use the Win98 DOS shell windows.
>
> Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried
> to play it this way.
Nope -- I ran Pandora Directive under a DOS shell window too.
> Did you have an SBLive?
Yes
> Is there a way to make a DOS game use the SBLive's Windows
> sound instead of its DOS emulation sound?
No. The DOS shell under Win98 is a complete DOS emulation, which means
that the Windows interrupts and I/O ports are completely invisible (and
unavailable) to any application that is run in them.
Murray Peterson
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> I have a little check box under Extended (XMS) memory
> that says Uses HMA. Would I want to leave it checked (as it
> is now)?
For Riddle of MasterLu, I have it checked and it seems to work. The
readme.doc that comes with the game implies that it needs lots of EMS
memory, so I assumed that XMS wasn't used by the game.
> Is HMA high memory allocation or something like that? What is it for?
Here is a page which describes memory functionality in DOS:
http://www.informa.gda.pl/02/subjects/okeje/mem.htm
It gives a pretty good description of all the settings.
One thing I have learned the hard way -- the Auto settings are almost
useless. You almost always need to set them manually to get proper
behaviour out of a DOS game.
Jenny100
> "Jenny100" <Jenn...@nospam.com> wrote in
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>
> > "Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:Xns90BB1B56...@24.64.2.57...
> >>
> >>
> >> The basic thing I have learned about getting old games to play is
> >> this: never boot to DOS, and always use the Win98 DOS shell windows.
> >
> > Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried
> > to play it this way.
>
> Nope -- I ran Pandora Directive under a DOS shell window too.
But you complained it was unstable.
When I ran it from DOS mode it was completely stable.
> > Did you have an SBLive?
>
> Yes
>
> > Is there a way to make a DOS game use the SBLive's Windows
> > sound instead of its DOS emulation sound?
>
> No. The DOS shell under Win98 is a complete DOS emulation, which means
> that the Windows interrupts and I/O ports are completely invisible (and
> unavailable) to any application that is run in them.
Rats. I was afraid it was something like that.
Doesn't do much for the sound quality of DOS games that use midi.
MaryJ
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Well, thank you Jenny. I'm glad you qualified it as being DOS gaming -;)well
I've got most of the old DOS games to work on my system, but you have to
have a lot of persistence and I hate to give up. Also, I've had a lot of
practice fiddling for hours and sometimes days on my original 286 computer
when I just had 1 meg RAM. I got kind of good at tweaking. Usually the
trouble then was not enough conventionall memory and at that time there was
DOS memmaker, which you could run to sometimes get a little more memory. I
can still get most old DOS games to work.
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:9fu2lc$6lm$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net:
>> > Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried to
>> > play it this way.
>>
>> Nope -- I ran Pandora Directive under a DOS shell window too.
>
> But you complained it was unstable.
> When I ran it from DOS mode it was completely stable.
I tried the DOS solution -- it was no more stable for me. I think that the
game was upset with my video card, not the DOS shell.
>> No. The DOS shell under Win98 is a complete DOS emulation, which means
>> that the Windows interrupts and I/O ports are completely invisible (and
>> unavailable) to any application that is run in them.
>
> Rats. I was afraid it was something like that.
> Doesn't do much for the sound quality of DOS games that use midi.
I agree. It woud be nice to get better quality sound out of those old
games.
MaryJ
> "Jenny100" <Jenn...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:9fu2lc$6lm$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net:
>
> >> > Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried to
> >> > play it this way.
> >>
> >> Nope -- I ran Pandora Directive under a DOS shell window too.
> >
> > But you complained it was unstable.
> > When I ran it from DOS mode it was completely stable.
>
> I tried the DOS solution -- it was no more stable for me. I think that
the
> game was upset with my video card, not the DOS shell.
>
> >> No. The DOS shell under Win98 is a complete DOS emulation, which means
> >> that the Windows interrupts and I/O ports are completely invisible (and
> >> unavailable) to any application that is run in them.
> >
> > Rats. I was afraid it was something like that.
> > Doesn't do much for the sound quality of DOS games that use midi.
>
> I agree. It woud be nice to get better quality sound out of those old
> games.
Thats why I kept my old SB 16. It is probably better in some cases anyway,
for old DOS games than Sb live. I was disappointed in Sb live DOS emulator,
I would have thought they would have done a better job with it for DOS
games, but I guess they figured no one plays DOS games - soo they only
catered to the Windows crowd - but they are wrong - :)
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:hmxU6.34570$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
> Thats why I kept my old SB 16. It is probably better in some cases
> anyway, for old DOS games than Sb live. I was disappointed in Sb live
> DOS emulator, I would have thought they would have done a better job
> with it for DOS games, but I guess they figured no one plays DOS games
> - soo they only catered to the Windows crowd - but they are wrong - :)
>
A co-worker donated hios old SB16 to me, but no drivers. Does Creative
still have device drivers for the SB16?
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:hmxU6.34570$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > Thats why I kept my old SB 16. It is probably better in some cases
> > anyway, for old DOS games than Sb live. I was disappointed in Sb live
> > DOS emulator, I would have thought they would have done a better job
> > with it for DOS games, but I guess they figured no one plays DOS games
> > - soo they only catered to the Windows crowd - but they are wrong - :)
> >
>
> A co-worker donated hios old SB16 to me, but no drivers. Does Creative
> still have device drivers for the SB16?
Well, you are lucky to get his old SB 16. And as far as I know, you can
still get SB16 drivers. I still have my Cd with drivers on it, so if you
can't get the drivers, I have both DOS and windows drivers. AT the time
windows 95 had not come out so the drivers are for Windows 3.1, but that
won't matter because windows 95/98 -whatever, have their own drivers. You
just need the DOS drivers for the SB 16. At that time they also gave you a
booklet from Creative giving you all the information about what lines to put
in autoexec.bat, and lots of other stuff. When I bought the Sblive they just
have online manual - not the same thing as a paper manual. Everybody is
cutting costs these days,. but their products are not cheaper.
With sound cards, they don't bring out new drivers all that often. I think
there was one update for the Sb16 called sbwup.exe or something like that.
Let me know if you can't get the drivers, though I think if you go on
Creative labs site you will get them. I have the Sb16 plug and play version.
MaryJ
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:hmxU6.34570$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > Thats why I kept my old SB 16. It is probably better in some cases
> > anyway, for old DOS games than Sb live. I was disappointed in Sb live
> > DOS emulator, I would have thought they would have done a better job
> > with it for DOS games, but I guess they figured no one plays DOS games
> > - soo they only catered to the Windows crowd - but they are wrong - :)
> >
>
> A co-worker donated hios old SB16 to me, but no drivers. Does Creative
> still have device drivers for the SB16?
Murray: go to http://www.soundblaster.com/drivers/ and choose Sb16 and DOS.
Another screen comes up. Choose file named 95dosapp.exe to download. It
doesn't matter if you have win 98 , win 95 drivers work ok. Also download
sbw9xup.exe which will upgrade the first file.
Its been a long time since I downloaded those drivers, so if I put my SB 16
back in, I would need to download them myself.
Anyway, you can download these two files when you feel like it, and try them
out.
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:6UxU6.34573$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
> Murray: go to http://www.soundblaster.com/drivers/ and choose Sb16 and
> DOS. Another screen comes up. Choose file named 95dosapp.exe to
> download. It doesn't matter if you have win 98 , win 95 drivers work
> ok. Also download sbw9xup.exe which will upgrade the first file.
> Its been a long time since I downloaded those drivers, so if I put my
> SB 16 back in, I would need to download them myself.
>
> Anyway, you can download these two files when you feel like it, and try
> them out.
>
Thanks. I may give the old sB16 a try in place of my SBLive. If nothing
else, it will get rid of an extremely ugly bit of software called "SB16
emulation" :-)
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:6UxU6.34573$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > Murray: go to http://www.soundblaster.com/drivers/ and choose Sb16 and
> > DOS. Another screen comes up. Choose file named 95dosapp.exe to
> > download. It doesn't matter if you have win 98 , win 95 drivers work
> > ok. Also download sbw9xup.exe which will upgrade the first file.
> > Its been a long time since I downloaded those drivers, so if I put my
> > SB 16 back in, I would need to download them myself.
> >
> > Anyway, you can download these two files when you feel like it, and try
> > them out.
> >
>
> Thanks. I may give the old sB16 a try in place of my SBLive. If nothing
> else, it will get rid of an extremely ugly bit of software called "SB16
> emulation" :-)
Yes, I should do the same thing. I thought Sblive would be better than my
Sb16, but now I think I wasted my money and should just have stuck with my
Sb16. Of course if you never play DOS games at all, a SB live is ok for
windows. My sb16 is an ISA card by the way, is that what yours is ? I just
went back to soundblaster.com site, and if you have the ISA/PNP the same as
mine you can download the manual for it - the pdf file is sb16pnp.pdf and
when yuo go on www.soundblaster.com, you will see "Manuals" on the left side
of the screen. If you have the PCI version of Sb16, there is also a manual
for it.
MaryJ
MaryJ
Well, you must be the goddess of web searches -;)
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
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> My sb16 is an ISA card by the way, is that what yours is ?
The box doesn't even say -- it must be *really* old. It certainly isn't
plug and play -- there are hardware jumpers all over it. Since it just
talks about plugging into any IBM AT, I am assuming that it's the ISA
version. Anyway, I have the manual for it.
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:ktyU6.34580$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > My sb16 is an ISA card by the way, is that what yours is ?
>
> The box doesn't even say -- it must be *really* old. It certainly isn't
> plug and play -- there are hardware jumpers all over it. Since it just
> talks about plugging into any IBM AT, I am assuming that it's the ISA
> version. Anyway, I have the manual for it.
You can tell the difference between PCI and ISA slots. PCI slots are a lot
shorter than ISA slots on the motherboard.
If your card is old, it is probably an ISA. You should be able to tell just
by looking at it. The edge connectors at the bottom are a lot longer than
PCI cards. Some of the newer motherboards have no ISA slots, but when I
upgrade my motherboard, I will make sure that it has two ISA slots. One for
my modem and one for the SB16 if I want to use it.
Could you have the SB original 8 bit soundblaster? Even if it is the
original 8 bit, it will be ok, though the SB 16 is better.
Anyway, its good you have the manual. It will tell you there which card it
is, and where the IRQ jumpers and Port numbers are. My old SB Pro had a lot
of jumpere settings like that. If you look at the card itself, it will tell
you at the top what model number the card is.
When I decide to try my old SB 16, I think I will uninstall the sblive. You
could leave both soundcards in, but I think its better to choose one or the
other as I tried both before and the drivers got mixed up. But you can
experiment.
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:M2DU6.34652$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
> Could you have the SB original 8 bit soundblaster? Even if it is the
> original 8 bit, it will be ok, though the SB 16 is better.
Could be. The box and manual don't really say anything except "Sound
Blaster".
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:M2DU6.34652$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > Could you have the SB original 8 bit soundblaster? Even if it is the
> > original 8 bit, it will be ok, though the SB 16 is better.
>
> Could be. The box and manual don't really say anything except "Sound
> Blaster".
Well, the manual should tell you what jumpers to set up for the soundcard.
windows should auto detect it, but you need to install the DOS drivers from
soundblaster.com site.
let me know how it goes.
MaryJ
Thomas K
The Patches Scrolls
Penny Munoz wrote:
I got the game from a computer store on the net, but it came with
no manual.
I have not used DOS in years so am having trouble running this game.
It seems to have installed ok as pur instructions in the read me
file. BUT! They say to "run" it using the instructions in the MANUAL!! No
manual to use..ssoooo!
I did go to the properties of the .exe and set it to run in DOS and
have the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files showing up although I don't know
if they are right for the game and no mouse driver is listed in them though.
When I go to the MSDOS icon to run the game is says something about
using MASTERLU to run the game??? There is no Masterlu in any of the files
I see in the directory for the game. The command path says
C:\Riddle\Riddle.exe to run it!
I restart the computer to F4 and it starts in DOS loadup, but then says
something about no EMM386 ? But goes back to restart the computer before I
can read anything better.
That line IS in the CONFIG listings, so I don't know whats going on.
I really hate DOS but I didn't know that this game only ran in it, but I
do want to play it.
My system is Win 98, but has the same things to set up a DOS game
like in Win 95.
Please help!!! I know some of you have played this game and your
expertise is really needed now.......!!!!! Thank You.......AGAIN!
( this is not the first time I've called on all you wonderful gamers)Penny Munoz ( Lady Gamer )
pen...@icehouse.netSomeone told me to Smile..that things could be worse!!
Well I smiled and sure enough things got worse!!!!
--
Nearly 300,000 trees are cut down yearly to produce the paper for
all the IRS forms and instructions.
60% of taxpayers must hire a professional to get through their
own return.
Taxes eat up 38.2% of the average family's income; that's more
than for food, clothing and shelter combined.
Jenny100
> "Jenny100" <Jenn...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:9fu2lc$6lm$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net:
>
> >> > Except for Pandora Directive, which made a stink when you tried to
> >> > play it this way.
> >>
> >> Nope -- I ran Pandora Directive under a DOS shell window too.
> >
> > But you complained it was unstable.
> > When I ran it from DOS mode it was completely stable.
>
> I tried the DOS solution -- it was no more stable for me. I think that
the
> game was upset with my video card, not the DOS shell.
That's interesting. I avoid a lot of video card incompatibilities by
running DOS games in DOS mode. It seems to be the Windows
video card drivers that cause the problems with my card.
Murray Peterson
> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> there is a patch here might help you not sure up to you to download and
> try
> <br> <a href="http://www.patches-scrolls.de/">The Patches
> Scrolls</a>
Could you please turn off HTML when posting to newsgroups? It looks
really, really ugly when read by a newsreader with no HTML rendering.
MaryJ
> Thomas K <the...@home.com> wrote in news:3B23A768...@home.com:
>
> > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> > <html>
> > there is a patch here might help you not sure up to you to download and
> > try
> > <br> <a href="http://www.patches-scrolls.de/">The Patches
> > Scrolls</a>
>
> Could you please turn off HTML when posting to newsgroups? It looks
> really, really ugly when read by a newsreader with no HTML rendering.
Thats one thing I like about Outlook Express. It has a checkmark you can
leave in or out of "Reply to messages in form they are sent in". I leave it
unchecked and that way, all messages are just shown to me in plain text. I
have my mail and news settings set for all incoming and outgoing messages
to be plain text. I can't see a need to send or receive messages in HTML
unless somebody is sending you a jpg or graphics embedded right into the
message, but that is usually just personal mail. Some browsers/ mail readers
can't display HTML messages.
MaryJ
MaryJ
For the most part, that has been my experience too. I mostly play older DOS
games in a DOS environment or sometimes I use a boot disk with DOS only
configurations. But now and then, an older DOS game can sometimes run better
via Windows.
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:ZEOU6.34743$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
> I can't see a need to send or receive messages in HTML
> unless somebody is sending you a jpg or graphics embedded right into
> the message, but that is usually just personal mail.
And even then, I find it easier to just add the picture as an attachment.
> Some browsers mail readers can't display HTML messages.
Almost *all* newsreaders are text only. The fact that Outlook allows HTML
news postings is one (of many) reasons that it has never passed the Good
Net Keeping Seal of Approval (GNKSA) test.
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:ZEOU6.34743$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > I can't see a need to send or receive messages in HTML
> > unless somebody is sending you a jpg or graphics embedded right into
> > the message, but that is usually just personal mail.
>
> And even then, I find it easier to just add the picture as an attachment.
I agree. I notice in Outlook Express, even though you send an attachment -
say a jpg. The same jpg also shows up at the bottom of the message itself. I
haven't been able to figure that out.
> > Some browsers mail readers can't display HTML messages.
>
> Almost *all* newsreaders are text only. The fact that Outlook allows
HTML
> news postings is one (of many) reasons that it has never passed the Good
> Net Keeping Seal of Approval (GNKSA) test.
Well, if you keep your settings never to reply to HTML in the form it was
sent (if it was sent in HTML I mean), then the HTML never shows on your
screen and you won't send any HTML if you have settings for plain text only.
I like Outlook Express and have had very little problem with it. Maybe I'mk
just used to it.
Does Netscape mail/news allow HTML to be sent and received ?
Sometimes I go on Toronto Freenet, and it is text only for mail and news and
if someone sends an HTML message on either the newsgroups or private email ,
it can't be read - its like <body> <text> etc. So I guess from my days with
them, I don't like HTML messages. Besides the print is too small -;)
MaryJ
Robert Norton
Yes, Netscape supports HTML. I got in trouble because I had a V-card, and
it drove people into a frenzy. Now I am using Xnews, it works pretty well
and supports Xface, so you should all try it. http://Xnews.3Dnews.net
MaryJ
news:3b242a41$0$42877$272e...@news.execpc.com...
Actually, I am quite happy with Outlook Express and Internet Explorer 5.0.
I've used them for years. I was only asking about Netcape mail/news because
Murray had said that almost all newsreaders are text only. I thought he
meant that maybe Netscape is text only. I didn't think so and I must have
misunderstood what he meant
What is a V-Card and what is Xface (just to satisfy my curiosity -;)
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
news:5qWU6.34933$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
> Actually, I am quite happy with Outlook Express and Internet Explorer
> 5.0. I've used them for years. I was only asking about Netcape
> mail/news because Murray had said that almost all newsreaders are text
> only. I thought he meant that maybe Netscape is text only. I didn't
> think so and I must have misunderstood what he meant
Well, Outlook and Netscape are only 2 newsreaders out of a very large list
of ones available. The majority of them don't have any HTML capabilities
(and this is intentional, not laziness on the part of the programmers).
> What is a V-Card and what is Xface (just to satisfy my curiosity -;)
A V-card is some sort of an electronic business card, but it seems to be
fairly specific to Outlook users. I don't know much about it, but MAryj
can probably tell you a lot more.
An Xface is a little 40x40 black and white graphic that you can encode as
one of the ascii headers in your news postings. Some newsreaders (like
Xnews) will display this as a picture when you download the news article.
If you look at the headers for this posting, you will see one labelled X-
face. If you want to view it in graphic form, here's a utility to do it:
www.geocities.com/quazar_nl/winface/
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in
> news:5qWU6.34933$TW.1...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > Actually, I am quite happy with Outlook Express and Internet Explorer
> > 5.0. I've used them for years. I was only asking about Netcape
> > mail/news because Murray had said that almost all newsreaders are text
> > only. I thought he meant that maybe Netscape is text only. I didn't
> > think so and I must have misunderstood what he meant
>
> Well, Outlook and Netscape are only 2 newsreaders out of a very large list
> of ones available. The majority of them don't have any HTML capabilities
> (and this is intentional, not laziness on the part of the programmers).
Yes, I know, but most people I know seem to use OE or Netscape mail and
news. But thats just the people I know personally.
> > What is a V-Card and what is Xface (just to satisfy my curiosity -;)
>
> A V-card is some sort of an electronic business card, but it seems to be
> fairly specific to Outlook users. I don't know much about it, but MAryj
> can probably tell you a lot more.
But I am MaryJ -;) Or is that someone else?
> An Xface is a little 40x40 black and white graphic that you can encode as
> one of the ascii headers in your news postings. Some newsreaders (like
> Xnews) will display this as a picture when you download the news article.
> If you look at the headers for this posting, you will see one labelled X-
> face. If you want to view it in graphic form, here's a utility to do it:
> www.geocities.com/quazar_nl/winface/
I think I will pass - I can get mixed up enough as it is just playing Seven
Games of the Soul which I am presently playing -;)
MaryJ
Murray Peterson
nn1.netcom.ca:
> I don't like HTML messages. Besides the print is too small -;)
That's one of the biggest problems with HTML -- the sender gets to choose
what fonts, etc. are used. I want to read news using *my* choice of fonts
and *my* choice of colours.
MaryJ
> "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> wrote in news:ztQU6.34755$TW.174672@tor-
> nn1.netcom.ca:
>
> > I don't like HTML messages. Besides the print is too small -;)
>
> That's one of the biggest problems with HTML -- the sender gets to choose
> what fonts, etc. are used. I want to read news using *my* choice of fonts
> and *my* choice of colours.
Yes, that is one of the problems with HTML messages. I have been using the
same size font ever since Windows 3.1 came out and I just use Windows
default colours. Plain text is good enough for me for email and newsgroup
messages.
MaryJ
Robert Norton
<Xns90BCEC6E...@24.64.2.57>:
>A V-card is some sort of an electronic business card, but it seems to be
>fairly specific to Outlook users.
I think it was one of the features that Microsoft "innovated" into Outlook
after seeing it in Netscape.