*** MYST and Quicktime for Windows 2.0? ***
Yann Nicolas
(mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
Thanks...
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David S. Eitelbach
> I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
> (mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
> have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
> does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
> not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
All the Quicktime files other than the .ini file seem to be in the Myst
directory, but I don't know the answer.
I got it running on a 33V with a mach32 and SB16 Value card using version
2.3 of the ATI drivers. All I recall having to do is turn off device
bitmap and cut resolution to 640x480 and colors to 256. So, be encouraged!
Someone or something will help you get it running.
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John Joseph Anderson
|> I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
|> (mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
|> have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
|> does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
|> not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
|>
I recently ran into a problem loading the Star Trek TNG Interactive
Technical Manual with Quicktime 1.9 on a 486-100 MHz machine. When trying
to run Myst it ran into a cannot make dynamic link error of some kind.
I traced this problem back to ST TNG ITM. I had to remove the new version
of Quicktime, erase Myst and Quicktime that came with that, remove quicktime
references in win.ini and system.ini.
After all this, I reloaded Myst and it has run without any problems.
Why there isn't the compatibility, I'll never know.
|> Thanks...
|>
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Joshua Bluestein
>>In article <3bkou8$b...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, yn...@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Yann Nicolas) writes:
>>|> I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
>>|> (mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
>>|> have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
>>|> does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
>>|> not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
>>|>
>>
>>I recently ran into a problem loading the Star Trek TNG Interactive
>>Technical Manual with Quicktime 1.9 on a 486-100 MHz machine. When trying
>>to run Myst it ran into a cannot make dynamic link error of some kind.
>>I traced this problem back to ST TNG ITM. I had to remove the new version
>>of Quicktime, erase Myst and Quicktime that came with that, remove quicktime
>>references in win.ini and system.ini.
>>
>>After all this, I reloaded Myst and it has run without any problems.
This is interesting, because I ran into the exact same problem on my
P90, but my solution was considerably different.
After careful examination of the files both in the MYST directory and
the Quicktime directory created by the ST:TNG ITM, I removed all of
the Quicktime files (not the movies, mind you, just the executables)
from the MYST directory (I had installed the ITM after MYST, so all
of the pointers were pointing at the new directory already). After
removing these files, I was able to run MYST and the ITM on the same
machine without any reconfiguration or noticable problem with either
program.
I think that this definitively illustrates that MYST was written well
enough that it can take advantage of whatever Quicktime installation
is present, but you need to guard against version skew -- certain
files will tend to be loaded from the directory you start the program
from (c:\MYST, for example), whereas others will be read according to
the config info in the .INI files. A potentially bad combo.
So, I can say that MYST runs well with Quicktime 1.9, but I don't
know about 2.0. The ITM runs well with 1.9 and claims to run even
better with 2.0, so I'd say the prognosis is good for Myst and
Quicktime 2.0.
Just my HO, tho.
Josh Bluestein
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Walter
If you have a MAch 32, did you set devicebitmap=off?
This might fix your problem...(you didn't state your problem, so I'm not sure if this will
do it.
Ron Critchfield
>>
>>I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
>>(mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
>>have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
>>does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
>>not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
>>
>>Thanks...
>
My mom is having the same problem on her system. Whenever she gets to the
parts where the little video shots play her, system locks up. She has a
66V, Mach32, Aztech sound card, Mitsusimi CD-ROM. All of these have the
newest drivers. I have spent hours talking to technical support at
Gateway, ATI, and Myst. They all blame everyone else. Then I talk to a
supervisor at Gateway who assures me that he will correct it. He says
that he is going to call the other two companies and then will get back to
my mom. She finally gets the call and the guy tells her that they can't
seem to get myst running on their own computer. He then gives my mom a
bunch of numbers (I haven't been home yet so I'm not sure what they are)
and tells her that she needs to call myst herself. So much for him
handleing the problem. Someone out there has to have Myst running. Any
ideas besides never, ever, buying Gateway again?
About the only good thing about this is that I'm in charge of upgrading
all the computers for my company right after the new year. Now at least I
know who not to deal with.
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>From: wal...@intellimedia.com (Walter)
>Subject: Re: *** MYST and Quicktime for Windows 2.0? ***
>Date: 2 Dec 1994 11:14:35 GMT
>In article <3bkou8$b...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, yn...@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (Yann Nicolas) says:
>>
>>I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
>>(mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
>>have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
>>does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
>>not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
This may be a silly question, but have you set Windows to 640x480x256 mode?
Gram
Richard Ham
off the cd? If the questions already been asked, I'm sorry. I haven't been
following this thread. But I am curious, because I'm a tech rep for Hyperbole
Studios, and our titles use QTW also. I've had one Gateway caller, so far,
and if I had him load the movie player and then the game, it worked fine.
-rich
Alan Westenbroek
>This may be a silly question, but have you set Windows to 640x480x256 mode?
Myst was fine on my system until I installed QTW2.0. I can't get it back working now.
Someone at Apple told me the trick about playing a clip with the QTW player first. Apparently,
Myst can't find the QTW libraries if they aren't in the right directory.
Justin F. Smith
>Myst was fine on my system until I installed QTW2.0. I can't get it back working now.
>Someone at Apple told me the trick about playing a clip with the QTW player first. Apparently,
>Myst can't find the QTW libraries if they aren't in the right directory.
I'm not sure I'm remembering this completely correctly (hedge, hedge) but I
was talking to Broderbund tech support and they said Windows Myst does NOT
like QTW2.0. I think he said the highest version they support is 1.6. Try
giving them a call.
Justin Smith
Figaro the Condemned Cat
: Yann Nicolas wrote:
: > I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
: > (mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
: > have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
: > does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
: > not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
This has been mentioned before, but you'll need to set your resolution to
640x480x256. This has not been mentioned, you'll need to set the
following variables to it's proper QTW directory: "lib" & "include".
(i.e. set lib=c:\windows\qtw) This can be done either through your
autoexec.bat or config.sys files. Also, this may or may not be a factor,
but since Myst seems to have trouble working it's QT files, you may want
to add this to your win.ini file under [mci extentions]:
"mov=quicktime". This really sounds like Myst is just having trouble
resolving the QT files through it's extension, so this should do the
trick, but make sure everything else is in place.
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Charles F. McDevitt
>Walter<wal...@intellimedia.com> wrote:
>>In article<3bkou8$b...@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
>>yn...@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu (YannNicolas) says:
>>>
>>>I had never been able to successfully play Myst on my Gateway2000 66V
>>>(mach32 video card and SB16 ASP card)... Would it make a difference to
>>>have Quicktime 2.0 for Windows installed instead of Quicktime 1.1? Or
>>>does the game installs it's own Quicktime and stick with it (i.e. does
>>>not look at the Quicktime version you already have)...
>>>
>>>Thanks...
>>
>
>My mom is having the same problem on her system.
Try editing the QTW.INI file, and in the [video] section
add a line that says:
optimize=bitmap
or try:
optimize=BMP
For some, this fixes the problem. Now if I could only find
a version of Quicktime that runs on NT 3.5, I could play the
game myself!
Kenneth Plotkin
fine for the UKM demo, which I think makes the same demands as the full
program. It also works perfectly well for 640x480x256 for other stuff.
So I suspect that your trouble lies somewhere other than the VESA driver.
Ken Plotkin
The Doctor
: [snip]
: Justin Smith
Sorry, I didn't get the original post for this. If this problem is occurring
on an Apple, this will be of *no* help. If Myst really doesn't like QTW v2.0,
this will be of *no* help. If Myst simply can't find the QWT libs, this will
help.
I purchased "The Family Doctor" which installs/uses QWT v2.0 also. After going through the default installation; even letting the install modify my config
files, it wouldn't work, saying it couldn't find this or init that. I
discovered that during one installation, it didn't even put the path for QWT
in my path, and the other time when it did, it was wrong. "The Family Doctor" CD
installation puts QWT in c:\qwt\bin and then only puts c:\qwt in your path.
I corrected it, and now it works fine. Hope this helps. I would have emailed
the individual who was experiencing this problem directly, but didn't get his
name, so I'm just following up this reply.
...Mark Ash
mr...@xmission.com
P.S. I'm going to purchase/install Myst tonight so I'll let you know if they're
any problems.
John W. Cox
I have an AST with intergrated ATI MACH32 and have downloaded the
lastest VESA drivers from ATI (V2.22). I've been unable to get VESA
support for 640x480 256 color (mode 101h). This seem odd since the
VESATEST shows that it will support 640x480 32k, 64k, and 16.7k color
just not 256. Anyone have any ideas or another VESA driver I might try?
Thanks
--
John
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Yvan Lefevre (ylef...@is1.vub.ac.be)
Eric Bader
: : >Myst was fine on my system until I installed QTW2.0. I can't get it back working now.
: : >Someone at Apple told me the trick about playing a clip with the QTW player first. Apparently,
: : >Myst can't find the QTW libraries if they aren't in the right directory.
: : I'm not sure I'm remembering this completely correctly (hedge, hedge) but I
: : was talking to Broderbund tech support and they said Windows Myst does NOT
: : like QTW2.0. I think he said the highest version they support is 1.6. Try
: : giving them a call.
: : Justin Smith
: Sorry, I didn't get the original post for this. If this problem is occurring
: on an Apple, this will be of *no* help. If Myst really doesn't like QTW v2.0,
: this will be of *no* help. If Myst simply can't find the QWT libs, this will
: help.
What I had to do in order to get Myst working with QTW v2.0 is delete
QTW 2.0! :-) I figured that MYST had already gotten me enveloped to the
point where I wasn't going to do anything productive anways, so what I
did was go to the WINDOWS/SYSTEM directory, and deleted the installed QTW
2.0 files. (Files that started with Q*.* and files ending with *.QTC on
my system.) And MYST owrked perfectly...
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>: : Justin Smith
Hmmmmm, well here's another iron in the fire. MYST kept crashing in the same
place ( subway) and even Broderbund shrugged....said it was WFWG3.11 that was
shafting me. Said "return the product...." I said shit, I've thrown away the
packaging...waste of space anyway!!!!! THEN, the unthinkable....I downloaded
QTW 2.0 and deleted the version that came with myst ( or at least the path
reference to it in autoexec.bat) and guess what........IT WORKED F*****G GREAT!
So I rid my hard disk of the QTW files that MYST installed and I can finally
play this section through. I love QTW 2.0.
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