Gabriel Knight 2: desperately seeking help for chapter 4
Antonio Spatrisano
is at 325), but prof. Barcley has not yet called Gerde so that I can
call him back.
I'm pretty sure I did not miss anything, so what's happening?
BIG thanks to anyone who could give a hand,
--
Antonio Spatrisano
Orvieto (TR) - ITALY
E-Mail : str...@orvienet.it
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asaihtam
item in the Ludwig Museum that triggers Barclay's phone call. There are
some things that can be a bit hard to find, but looking carefully in
every room.
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Before you buy.
Arne
CHAPTER FOUR in sixteen pieces.
==============
4.1 Pop into the Library and look at the left bookcase. Take the Ludwig
II book Gerde must have put back. Read it. Downstairs. Gerde is not around
the castle so don't bother looking. Go down into the village and go to the
post office. Collect your letter from Gabriel.
4.2 Go into the Gastof (Inn) and talk to Mr & Mrs. Smith. Talk to Herr
Huber.
4.3 Go into Church. Walk into the Schattenjager's tomb area. Look at
Gerde.
4.4 Go back up to castle, into the secret passage, down steps, and get some
roses. Take them to Gerde. Talk to her. Once done, Gerde will give you
the
keys to Gabriels car.
4.5 Get into the car. First place to go is Herrenchiemsee. Buy a ticket
by
clicking on the woman (?). Look around at EVERYTHING. The Death Masks and
the Cloak don't give any points - mostly it's the letters, and the entries
of the
diary. You have to be sure to click both left and right arrows in order to
enter each room..When you've approached the woman (??) - hold the mouse
cursor on the central wall pillar in the centre of the screen. Now drift
the mouse
left and right - there are 2 directions to go in.. most people are getting
stuck
here because they think there is only one room, due to the cursor for 'left
exit'
only appears when the mouse moves over a very small area.
Once you've seen the painting and the diary et all, talk the the woman (???)
about the diary and the lost Wagner Opera. Leave never to return.
4.6 Now go back to Rittersburg - visit Mrs. Smith - ask Huber to get them
from
their room. Talk about your dream. Go back to the castle. Gerde informs
you of telephone call. Go into library. Use Barclay's card on the
telephone.
Then use the new number on the telephone. Go down to the car.
4.7 Travel to the Wagner Museum firstly. Look at everything. Talk to
Georg.
Leave.
4.8 Click on the Black Crusifix.
4.9 Walk all the way to the left. Click on the railings. Talk to
Dallmeier
about EVERYTHING. Once he goes, click on the water between the two
horizontal railing bars. Grace will turn and look now towars the muddy
enbankment. Click on the water. Leave.
4.10 Go to Neuschwanstein. Click on castle. You'll need to take a tour of
the place. In each room, click on absolutely everything you can (except the
guards), and whenever you see the "tour tape"button appear in the lower
left
corner, click on it. (This button also appears as you walk into each new
room).
Bedroom.
---on the right --- Chapel.
---on the left --- Living Room
Grotto (click down exit in the Living Room)
Study (up exit from above room)
Singer's Hall (up exit from above room)
4.12 Go back to Rittersburg. Go to the library. Sit down at the desk &
click on the typewriter. Use the Ludwig biography on the phone. Use
Chaphill's number on the phone. Leave castle and go into town.
4.13 The Gasthof - Ensure you've said all you can to the Smiths.
4.14 Post the letter. Go towards the church, but click to the right of it,
on the
bushes. See the yellow flowers ?? Click on them..and again. Now take this
Lilly to Starnberger See (the Black Cross) and use it on the water after
you've
clicked on the railings. Grace will 'MAKE CONTACT" ..
4.15 Go back to Castle Schoss. Talk to Gerde. Back down to the post
office.
Get the fax from the postmistress. READ IT..(no..really..??)
4.16 Take the Fax to Georg at the Wagner Museum... and WHY SLAP MY THIGH
WITH A MACE - ow - it's the end of the CHAPTER !
Arne
Antonio Spatrisano
heard "Arne" <zands...@zonnet.nl> saying:
>Once you've seen the painting and the diary et all, talk the the woman (???)
>about the diary and the lost Wagner Opera. Leave never to return.
Yeah, THAT's the problem: I've checked the diary etc., but I cannot
have the diary conversation item with the nasty woman, only the Wagner
one :-(((
Arne
close-ups aswell? Even if you miss one you could get stuck until you do
(it's teh Sierra-way). The same goes for the "tour" tapes, you have to
listen to each one. And have you talke to everyone about everything you
could? Did you read all the letters, not leaving a single one out?
After you did all of the above, have you backtracked to see if you could
talk to people you met before about some new fact?
Arne
anise hollingshead
Do you have a save right before starting chapter 4? If so, you're
going to have to start again and do the whole chapter over again,
because once you've missed an important item in one of the musuem's
(can't remember which one), you're toast, it won't ever do that phone
call. I got stuck at the same point, and played that chapter a bunch
of times, before I finally got it right. Check out postings on
sierra's forums, too, for more info. If I remember correctly, if
you've done it right, you'll have new conversation lines with they guy
at the desk at the wagner museum about ludwig being a wolf (i THINK)
then you'll know you did it right :D
but the game's worth it!!!!
anise
Antonio Spatrisano <strider@black_robe.orvienet.it> wrote:
>OK, I did everything I could, examined everything I encountered (score
>is at 325), but prof. Barcley has not yet called Gerde so that I can
>call him back.
>I'm pretty sure I did not miss anything, so what's happening?
>BIG thanks to anyone who could give a hand,
>
Antonio Spatrisano
heard aholl...@mindspring.com (anise hollingshead) saying:
>Do you have a save right before starting chapter 4? If so, you're
>going to have to start again and do the whole chapter over again,
>because once you've missed an important item in one of the musuem's
>(can't remember which one), you're toast, it won't ever do that phone
>call. I got stuck at the same point, and played that chapter a bunch
>of times, before I finally got it right. Check out postings on
>sierra's forums, too, for more info. If I remember correctly, if
>you've done it right, you'll have new conversation lines with they guy
>at the desk at the wagner museum about ludwig being a wolf (i THINK)
>then you'll know you did it right :D
My prob is finishing the Ludwig museum: I read a point list that says
15 points overall for looking at the exhibits, but heck I can get only
13! If you want I can post a detailed list of what I've checked there,
if this can help anyone get me past this...
MaryJ
news:0qbtusgfsd0b73tdo...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:17:34 GMT, through the endless flow of time I
> heard aholl...@mindspring.com (anise hollingshead) saying:
>
> >going to have to start again and do the whole chapter over again,
> >because once you've missed an important item in one of the musuem's
> >(can't remember which one), you're toast, it won't ever do that phone
> >call. I got stuck at the same point, and played that chapter a bunch
> >of times, before I finally got it right. Check out postings on
> >sierra's forums, too, for more info. If I remember correctly, if
> >you've done it right, you'll have new conversation lines with they guy
> >at the desk at the wagner museum about ludwig being a wolf (i THINK)
> >then you'll know you did it right :D
>
> 15 points overall for looking at the exhibits, but heck I can get only
> 13! If you want I can post a detailed list of what I've checked there,
> if this can help anyone get me past this...
So many people had trouble with that part of the game. There were certain
hidden areas in the museum you had to look for when you went into the alcove
place to the left. You had to look at absolutely *everything* and read
everything. Look at the paint on the wall about Ludwig in the snow scene.
Look particularly for the part out of his diary in one of the glass cases,
also the parts about Ludwig and Elizabeth to the left of the alcove place.
Why don't you post your detailed list
here and someone might see what you have not done yet. I had to keep going
back and back to that part. Great game though - I loved it!!
MaryJ
Antonio Spatrisano
heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>Look particularly for the part out of his diary in one of the glass cases,
THAT's exactly what I'm not able to find. I only read the two diary
excerpts on the wall. Please, can you direct me exactly to it? In the
glass case in room2 there's only the mask :-(((
MaryJ
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:09:01 -0400, through the endless flow of time I
> heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>
> >Look particularly for the part out of his diary in one of the glass
cases,
>
> THAT's exactly what I'm not able to find. I only read the two diary
> excerpts on the wall. Please, can you direct me exactly to it? In the
> glass case in room2 there's only the mask :-(((
I thought there was another glass case in the room. Perhaps I am mistaken. I
will look up one of my cheat docs and see if I can find it.
What are the 13 things yuo have done in that area? could you list them?
MaryJ
Arne
Go to the library. Click on the leftmost shelf again. Go to the town
square. Click on the post office, ring the buzzer. Read the letter you
get. Go to the Gasthof. Talk to the Smiths, and go through all dialogue
choices. Go into the church. Click on the back wall, then sweep the cursor
for when it's a dagger near the back. Click there to go to the crypt.
Click on Gerde twice. Yes, Grace, you ARE an idiot. Go back to Schloss
Ritter and go into the secret passageway. Click on the back area (the dark
section). Click on the roses on the right to pick some. Go back to the
crypt & click the roses on Gerde, so the two of you make up (how nice). Now
go back to Schloss Ritter's exterior (don't go in). Click the car keys on
the car. Go to Neuschwanstein. Click on castle. You'll take a tour of the
place. In each room, click on absolutely everything you can (except the
guards,
which brings no real result), and whenever you see the "tour tape" button
appear in the lower left corner, click on it. (This button also appears as
you walk into each new room). Click on the door to go to the bedroom.
Repeat procedure. Click on door on right to go to chapel. Repeat procedure.
Exit chapel (should be back in bedroom), click on door on left to go to
living room. Repeat procedure. Click on "exit" cursor going down and to the
right. Repeat procedure w/other part of living room. Click on door to left
to go to grotto. Repeat procedure. Click on "up" exit sign (door in back
wall) to enter Study. Repeat procedure. Click on black section of back
wall to exit to Singer's Hall. Repeat procedure (especially note wolf
paintings), exit "down," repeat procedure, click on door in back wall. Exit
"down" from castle view, and choose Herrencheimsee on the map. Talk to the
woman at the counter; pick all topics. In the entry hall, click on the
letters
on the left wall & read them all by clicking on each individually. Exit
close-up, exit "up," then exit left from close-up of desk. Click on
absolutely everything available, including everything in display cases (you
don't have to click on EVERY pin, just one, in that case). Be sure to read
diary entries on the wall. Then exit down, and exit right. Once again,
click on absolutely everything available for viewing, including Ludwig's
demise, detailed on the wall. Exit back to left & down, then click on the
lady at the counter. She's a bitch, but ask her about all topics (you might
have to go twice). Go to Schloss Ritter. Go to the library. Read the
Ludwig biography in inventory. Make sure you read ALL pages. Use Barclays'
card on the phone on the desk to call him. Use Dallmeier's number on the
phone to call him. Now exit the house and go to Starnberger See (the
cross). Click left to walk all the way to the railing. Click on the
railing.
Dallmeier should show up in the close-up view. Ask him everything. Now
exit
close-up, click right to exit the Berg, and go to Bayureth (north part of
map)
You'll wind up in the display room start. Click on absolutely everything in
the room. Click on the left door. Click on absolutely everything you can,
including all items in close-ups. Click on left door. Click on everything
in room #3. Click on "up" door. Click on everything you can (hey, Grace is
doing RESEARCH, right?) Now exit through left door, then exit "down." Talk
to Georg. Ask him everything. Go to Schloss Ritter. Talk to Gerde. Go to
the library. Sit down at the desk & click on the typewriter. Use the
Ludwig biography on the phone. Use Chaphill's number on the phone. Go to
the Gasthof. Talk to the bartender, ask about The Smiths. Talk to the
Smiths. Go to town square. Mail the letter at the
post office (click on buzzer, click letter to Gabriel (#3) on the postlady,
then click wallet on her to pay postage). Go left and click on bushes to
front and right of church. Click on flowers once to get close-up, then
again to pick one. Exit and go back to the car. Drive back to Starnberger
See, walk left. Click on railing to get close-up, click on water to get
water close-up, click lily on water. Go back to Schloss Ritter and go in.
Go back to Town Square. Go to post office, click on buzzer to get fax. Read
fax in inventory; read ALL pages! Now go back to the Wagner Museum. Click
faxed diary on Georg. This ends Chapter 4.
Arne
B.C.
"Antonio Spatrisano" <strider@black_robe.orvienet.it> schreef in bericht
news:7g10vscle1qj3dq4c...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:09:01 -0400, through the endless flow of time I
> heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>
> >Look particularly for the part out of his diary in one of the glass
cases,
>
> THAT's exactly what I'm not able to find. I only read the two diary
> excerpts on the wall. Please, can you direct me exactly to it? In the
> glass case in room2 there's only the mask :-(((
You are not trying to let us play the game again are you? :-)
Anyway what I remember is this: when you walk away from that 'nasty lady'
there is a kind of column? (it is a very little spot in the screen where the
cursor can change in two directions left and right) you must get them both!
Believe me it was hard to find because it is a very little spot.........
Further you must ask TWO questions even if you have to click on the lady
twice.......something like.......is there anyway to see more of Ludwigs
Diary (she answered something like "they are personel and no one can read
them". second question is: Do you know anything about Wagners
opera...(somewhere in the glass vitrine it is mentioned) you get Bayreuth on
the map.......
Well I hope this is any help...............I think I know the right spot to
click on by heart because I was stucked here too..............
Good Luck
and..............a kiss for Von Glower :-)
Barbara
Antonio Spatrisano
heard "B.C." <jabe...@casema.net> saying:
>You are not trying to let us play the game again are you? :-)
Yup indeed I am ;-)
>Anyway what I remember is this: when you walk away from that 'nasty lady'
>there is a kind of column? (it is a very little spot in the screen where the
>cursor can change in two directions left and right) you must get them both!
>Believe me it was hard to find because it is a very little spot.........
No problem in that...
>Further you must ask TWO questions even if you have to click on the lady
>twice.......something like.......is there anyway to see more of Ludwigs
>Diary (she answered something like "they are personel and no one can read
>them". second question is: Do you know anything about Wagners
>opera...(somewhere in the glass vitrine it is mentioned) you get Bayreuth on
>the map.......
Right, here's the heart of the problem: I cannot talk about the diary,
just because I cannot find where it is in the museum! I only found the
two excerpts on the wall near the Lost Opera stuff.
Antonio Spatrisano
heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>I thought there was another glass case in the room. Perhaps I am mistaken. I
>will look up one of my cheat docs and see if I can find it.
>What are the 13 things yuo have done in that area? could you list them?
Well, I earned 13 points; not every object yelds points. Anyway,
here's the list of what I checked:
ENTRY ROOM:
-Eliz's painting and plaque
-Letters and photos (4 of each)
-Ludwig painting behind matron
DISPLAY ROOM #1:
-Robe and plaque
-St. George order painting and plaque
-St. George pins and plaque
-Wagner's portrait
.....................................
EHY WAIT A MINUTE.........MOTHER OF GOD! Here it is: room#1, left and
down the robe. Fuck all the damned walkthrus that say it's in room#2!
Thank you, thank you all, friends. And sorry for being such a nuisance
:-)
MaryJ
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:54:52 -0400, through the endless flow of time I
> heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>
> >I thought there was another glass case in the room. Perhaps I am
mistaken. I
> >will look up one of my cheat docs and see if I can find it.
> >What are the 13 things yuo have done in that area? could you list them?
>
> Well, I earned 13 points; not every object yelds points. Anyway,
> here's the list of what I checked:
> ENTRY ROOM:
> -Eliz's painting and plaque
> -Letters and photos (4 of each)
> -Ludwig painting behind matron
> DISPLAY ROOM #1:
> -Robe and plaque
> -St. George order painting and plaque
> -St. George pins and plaque
> -Wagner's portrait
> .....................................
>
> EHY WAIT A MINUTE.........MOTHER OF GOD! Here it is: room#1, left and
> down the robe. Fuck all the damned walkthrus that say it's in room#2!
You mean you found the display where the diary excerpts are?
I didn't think it wass in the same case as the robe - is it?
I did say it was in the alcove place, meaning the Display room where the
paintings and most other stuff you need to see it. The only other things
outside of that room is the letters to and from Elizabeth and the Ludwig
painting - behind the woman who was always irritated.
Thank you, thank you all, friends. And sorry for being such a nuisance
You weren't a nuisance at all. It's annoying to be stuck for a long time in
a game especially when you have tried everything -;).
MaryJ
Antonio Spatrisano
heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>You mean you found the display where the diary excerpts are?
>I didn't think it wass in the same case as the robe - is it?
No, it is in the same room, not case.
However, being the case black and visually contiguous to the robe it
is hard to distinguish.
>You weren't a nuisance at all. It's annoying to be stuck for a long time in
>a game especially when you have tried everything -;).
Woah, finished it at last. Really good game, only the end movie is far
too short :-]
MaryJ
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:50:42 -0400, through the endless flow of time I
> heard "MaryJ" <rain...@attcanada.ca> saying:
>
> >You mean you found the display where the diary excerpts are?
> >I didn't think it wass in the same case as the robe - is it?
>
> No, it is in the same room, not case.
> However, being the case black and visually contiguous to the robe it
> is hard to distinguish.
>
> >You weren't a nuisance at all. It's annoying to be stuck for a long time
in
> >a game especially when you have tried everything -;).
>
> Woah, finished it at last. Really good game, only the end movie is far
> too short :-]
Congratulations, you finished the game. It was a great game, I must
agree.One of my top 5.
MaryJ