TECHNICAL ISSUE:
While trying to start the game, I get the error message "Please insert the
first Syberia 2 CD-ROM and relaunch the game." even if the first Syberia 2
CD is in the CD-ROM drive.
SOLUTION:
The problem you are having is related to the copy protection of the CD. We
have recently found out from our security vendor that the piracy
protection on the CD will not allow the game to run if you have one of
these pieces of software installed and active:
Fantom CD Emulator
Daemon Tools
Farstone
Alcohol 120%
Nero Image Drive
Phantom CD
Clone CD
Ark Virtual Drive
It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.
Please be sure that no other programs are running in the background. This
includes programs that have icons on the task tray such as virus scanners
and other such programs. Also, disable any auto-update programs such as
that included in WindowsXP.
Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.
--Z
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> Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
> incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.
Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I still buy
the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.
--
Murray Peterson
Email: murray_...@shaw.ca (remove underscore)
URL: http://members.shaw.ca/murraypeterson/
> It is not that these software do not work with the protection software,
> it is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these
> software titles to prevent the protected product launching from the
> virtual drives.
This kind of behavior, companies limiting what their own customers can do
with their software through crippling technologies, is really bad.
Unfortunately, you can expect to see a lot more of this in the future.
I don't know if it's StarForce this time.
Uru had a copy "protection" that wouldn't run with certain
software installed, and according to one copy protection
database I found Uru uses Safedisc 3.10.020.
What I'd like to know is whether what's on Syberia 2
is going to leave unwanted drivers behind that might
conflict with hardware, like StarForce did.
I am so sick of buying crippled software with
deliberate incompatibilities purposefully built in.
Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.
Some game company needs to release a game without any protection and I
bet they find they make just as much profit. The people that are
going to buy it are going to buy it and the people that are going to
pirate it will find away to do so. But the people that have problems
with copy protection will return it or not buy it in the first place.
> Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
> SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.
A nocd crack is available for downloading already on
alt.binaries.games.encrypted. How's that for slowing down the pirates?
Pirates probably see it as an interesting challenge.
> Some game company needs to release a game without any protection and I
> bet they find they make just as much profit. The people that are
> going to buy it are going to buy it and the people that are going to
> pirate it will find away to do so. But the people that have problems
> with copy protection will return it or not buy it in the first place.
I am sure a lot of people agree, but obviously the game companies don't.
They need to wake up.
Mary
Wow. They didn't take long to meet the challenge, did they?
Mary
Where's the Uru crack?
Reminds me of the old days when they put the lpt1 dongle on business
software (mainly CAD and 3D Studio). It cost the companies $200-300
PER DONGLE and hackers would bypass the entire parallel port with a
simple TSR program and negate an expensive piece of protection.
I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
duplication factory.
> I don't know if it's StarForce this time.
> Uru had a copy "protection" that wouldn't run with certain
> software installed, and according to one copy protection
> database I found Uru uses Safedisc 3.10.020.
> What I'd like to know is whether what's on Syberia 2
> is going to leave unwanted drivers behind that might
> conflict with hardware, like StarForce did.
>
The people that cracked the game protection say that it is Safedisc 3.
> Where's the Uru crack?
No idea -- I haven't looked for that one. PErhaps gamecopyworld has it
online?
That is mipselled for "If turning off the emulation does not work, then
please uninstall the game, and any of the software listed should run with
no problem."
Regards, Tumtrah "vice versa" Redimhcs
--
Hartmut Schmider, Queen's University h...@post.queensu.ca
Man lebt nicht einmal einmal. Karl Kraus
Crazy, isn't it?
> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.
They are either naive or misguided. I am sure they must know their programs
are being cracked, but they must think that their copy protection schemes
prevent some of it, but for people who want to pirate or crack games, the
copy protect doesn't do anything except annoy genuine buyers. In fact, the
copy protection probably creates even more pirating than it would if there
was none. You would think the game companies would learn, but they don't
seem to.
Mary
m> They are either naive or misguided. I am sure they must know their
m> programs are being cracked, but they must think that their copy
m> protection schemes prevent some of it, but for people who want to
m> pirate or crack games, the copy protect doesn't do anything except
m> annoy genuine buyers. In fact, the copy protection probably creates
m> even more pirating than it would if there was none. You would think
m> the game companies would learn, but they don't seem to.
There's nothing to learn. I'm sure they are aware of this. Their
ineffective and annoying schemes have the upside that they are cheap and
keep casual piracy to a minimum. They lose a certain amount of revenue to
semi-professional crackers one way or the other, but they keep Joe Blow
from making a copy for Mike Dumbass, who in term will have to buy one if he
wants to be in with the in crowd.
Of course, they also piss off some potential legitimate buyers, but that's
a price they're willing to pay. Despite the high-falut'n' proclamations on
Usenet, most regular gamers are so addicted to this stuff they'll swallow
anything. The only real way to get this nonsense to stop is in fact to
find out beforehand if a game uses this kind of scheme, and then make a
point of not buying it. Complete with note sent to the distributor
indicating what caused the decision.
But who's going to go through all that?
Regards, Hartmut "easy for me to have a big mouth, I wouldn't have bought
this game anyhow" Schmider
They still are doing that. And $50-100 is not too much for a $5000
program (that's real numbers). Certainly cracking the protection is
still possible, but isn't easy now.
> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.
For some not so common programs that's a real answer to piracy -- you
need to _find_ a good enough hacker to crack the protection. Most
people don't bother doing that. For "famous" programs (WinXP,
MS Office, games, etc.) the "protection" is just stupidity.
I was wondering if they used the same copy "protection" on
Syberia 2 as they did on Uru. The complaints about getting
it to work were similar - didn't work with some drives,
had to uninstall virtual drive programs. But when I checked
"the usual" website to see if there was a Uru crack, it only
had a link to a walkthrough. At least Safedisk 3, as far as I
know, does not leave copy "protection" drivers on your hard
drive. If it had, I assume you'd have reported it in your
review of Uru.
Nope. They only list a walkthrough.
Maybe they figured it was useless to post a Uru crack since
it was supposed to be an online game.
By the way, did you get my email?
This has been my m.o. for a while, too. Not because of copy protection
(although that would do it, with Starforce), but because of those stupid
registration things they put in that pop up every time you boot (daily, for
me).
--
David Tanguay http://www.sentex.ca/~datanguayh/
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada [43.24N 80.29W]
At least some of the Nancy Drew games don't have any. At least, I was able
to do a full install by hand and put the discs away. I haven't tried it with
the most recent ones. Their sales are near the top of the adventure heap.
> At least Safedisk 3, as far as I
> know, does not leave copy "protection" drivers on your hard
> drive. If it had, I assume you'd have reported it in your
> review of Uru.
>
The copy protection on URU was fairly "benign" -- it just checked my disk
at startup, and then I could play the game. Definitely no device drivers
installed as in Starforce.
> By the way, did you get my email?
Yep -- and responded to it.
> Murray Peterson wrote:
>> Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
>> Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I
>> still buy the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.
>
> This has been my m.o. for a while, too. Not because of copy protection
> (although that would do it, with Starforce), but because of those
> stupid registration things they put in that pop up every time you boot
> (daily, for me).
I haven't run into any of those yet -- if I do, it will certainly be in any
review I write.
> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.
Believe it! I can't really say why. :-(
> That is mipselled for "If turning off the emulation does not work, then
> please uninstall the game, and any of the software listed should run with
> no problem."
Exactly so. I might add "and return it for credit" after "game".
Thats just it. It took only a few hours after Syberia 2's release
before it was cracked and avail all over the net. Withing hours last
night there was over 3,000 people downloading it. Shoot - most games
are cracked and avail days even weeks before the official release.
Copy protection does nothing but annoy the people who buy it. Those
who download it don't have to bother with any of it...
Is the entire game all over the net in binary groups you mean?
I don't know a lot about cracks and stuff, but you can use a noCD to get
past the copy protect, but you still need the game Cd in the CDrom. So a
crack must be something different.
Mary
> Is the entire game all over the net in binary groups you mean?
> I don't know a lot about cracks and stuff, but you can use a noCD to get
> past the copy protect, but you still need the game Cd in the CDrom. So a
> crack must be something different.
Both the complete game as well as the nocd crack have been posted on
newsgroups. The nocd crack consists of a replacement Syberia.exe file.
I didn't know you meant the complete game. I've never seen anything as fast
as that. The game just came out. Did you get the game yet Murray? I think I
will get it tomorrow at EB. They just got it on Tuesday I think.
I saw on the TV weather, you got some nice sunny days in Calgary this week
with people going around in shorts and sitting in the park and sidewalk
cafes. We have had nothing but rain here all week and snow flurries maybe
for Saturday, but then it suddenly goes up to 60 one of these days, then its
95 all summer it seems, so I don't complain about the rain. I prefer the
winters to the summers here.
Mary
I didn't get it. :(
Can you send it again?
> Did you get the game yet Murray?
Not yet -- I am planning to stop at EB on the way home from work tonight.
Besides Syberia, there is another game that looks interesting -- Egyptian
Prophecy: the Fate of Ramses.
Just re-sent it. Does yur email account have problems with .exe file
attachments?
I still haven't received it.
I had Earthlink's virus blocker turned on. Maybe it thinks
every exe file is a virus. I've been receiving other
attachments. I'll turn the virus blocker off now.
Supposedly "quarantined" messages are now supposed to
appear in my Inbox, but I don't see anything from you.
I even searched the "known spam" folder on the web and
didn't find any messages from you.
Maybe if you zipped it?
Or just try sending me a message without an attachment
and see if I get that.
I got my Syberia2 copy this afternoon at EB. They also had Egyptian
Prophecy, but I think I've had enough of Egyptian game themes for now. I'll
have to see what you or others say about it. It was a lot cheaper than
Syberia2 - only $20.00. The Manager mentioned that he got 24 copies of
Syberia2 on Wednesday afternoon and already sold 21 copies. I had told them
to put one aside for me to pick up today.
He said it was Syberia2 sold well for just two days (for an adventure game)
but they sell a lot more combat type games and they also sell Playstation
games. He commented that three adventure games came out in the last 10
days - Weekend in Capri, Syberia2 and Egyptian Prophecy, and as we know
there haven't been many adventure games out in the last year. It would be
nice if it continued.
Mary
The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
tedious review, check here
http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm
Well, its long but I wouldn't say tedious. Its a well written review with
good detail. Well done Jenny.
Mary
> The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
> I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
> tedious review, check here
> http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm
>
Nice review -- sounds like I will need to add it to my list.
I think you'll like it OK, but I know you'll miss Tifet.
Just for curiosity's sake, or maybe my anal retentive nature (hey, we *are*
adventurers here): You continually suggest that The Egyptian Prophecy is the
continuation of Egypt 1156 BC and Egypt 2. Those later games were made by
Cryo (Canal+ and Reunion des Musees Nationaux), and TEP was made by Kheops
(and here I was guessing TEP would be Riddle of the Sphinx 3). Is Kheops
the old Cryo development team resurfacing? Are there lots of French names in
the development credits?
The plots of the games aren't really connected. But I noticed
a file that said Egypt3 in the installation. And this French
review refers to the game as Egypt 3.
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2004/00008014.htm
> Those later games were made by
> Cryo (Canal+ and Reunion des Musees Nationaux), and TEP was made by Kheops
> (and here I was guessing TEP would be Riddle of the Sphinx 3). Is Kheops
> the old Cryo development team resurfacing?
Possibly. I've wondering about that myself.
The developers at Cryo must have gone somewhere.
The game interfaces are very similar.
The Kheops website is here
http://www.kheops-studio.fr/
but there's not much information on it.
> Are there lots of French names in the development credits?
I don't remember. I think there were a few, but I don't
remember if they were the same as worked on the old
Cryo games.
They're located in Paris, France, so that is consistent with the hypothesis.
They're also involved with The Crystal Key 2.
http://www.pcpointer.de/egypt3_englisch_interview.php
David Adrien Tanguay <datan...@sentex.cookie.can> wrote in message news:<4070f987$1...@news.sentex.net>...
Thanks for the link.
>> The only real way to get this nonsense to stop is in fact to
>find out beforehand if a game uses this kind of scheme, and then make a
>point of not buying it. Complete with note sent to the distributor
>indicating what caused the decision.
>
>But who's going to go through all that?
I'll write to the distributor and will enjoy every minute of it too.
---
erimess
My therapist told me a way to achieve
inner peace was to finish things I had
started. Today I finished 2 bags of potato
chips, a lemon pie, a fifth of Jack Daniel's
and a small box of chocolate candy.
I feel better already.
>
>It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
>is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
>titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
>If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
>the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.
Isn't using the virtual drives for games part of the POINT of using
one of those softwares? This is like a contradiction in terms.
No, it's a contradiction in intents. The people who create
virtual-drive software want you to be able to use it for games. The
people who create games want you to *not* be able to do that.
--Z
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*
* Make your vote count. Get your vote counted.
I didn't say the people who create games wanted your life to be
convenient. :)