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Cassie

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Mar 31, 2004, 7:09:02 PM3/31/04
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Taken from the Syberia2 group board . . .

TECHNICAL ISSUE:

While trying to start the game, I get the error message "Please insert the
first Syberia 2 CD-ROM and relaunch the game." even if the first Syberia 2
CD is in the CD-ROM drive.

SOLUTION:

The problem you are having is related to the copy protection of the CD. We
have recently found out from our security vendor that the piracy
protection on the CD will not allow the game to run if you have one of
these pieces of software installed and active:

Fantom CD Emulator
Daemon Tools
Farstone
Alcohol 120%
Nero Image Drive
Phantom CD
Clone CD
Ark Virtual Drive

It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.

Please be sure that no other programs are running in the background. This
includes programs that have icons on the task tray such as virus scanners
and other such programs. Also, disable any auto-update programs such as
that included in WindowsXP.


Andrew Plotkin

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Mar 31, 2004, 7:47:41 PM3/31/04
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Here, Cassie <castali...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Taken from the Syberia2 group board . . .
>
> TECHNICAL ISSUE:
>
> While trying to start the game, I get the error message "Please insert the
> first Syberia 2 CD-ROM and relaunch the game." even if the first Syberia 2
> CD is in the CD-ROM drive.
>
> SOLUTION:
>
> The problem you are having is related to the copy protection of the CD. We
> have recently found out from our security vendor that the piracy
> protection on the CD will not allow the game to run if you have one of
> these pieces of software installed and active:

Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.

--Z

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Murray Peterson

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Mar 31, 2004, 9:09:39 PM3/31/04
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Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote in
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> Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
> incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.

Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I still buy
the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.

--
Murray Peterson
Email: murray_...@shaw.ca (remove underscore)
URL: http://members.shaw.ca/murraypeterson/

Cassie

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Mar 31, 2004, 9:48:05 PM3/31/04
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"Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote in
> news:c4ford$bsk$1...@reader1.panix.com:
>
> > Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
> > incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.
>
> Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
> Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I still
buy
> the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.
>
I'm still trying to figure out their game plan ... up 50% in cost and
requiring - on my computer - the deletion of four programs. Just doesn't
sound like the best approach for creating a loyal fan base :-(


Robert Norton

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Mar 31, 2004, 9:58:46 PM3/31/04
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:09:02 +0000, Cassie wrote:

> It is not that these software do not work with the protection software,
> it is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these
> software titles to prevent the protected product launching from the
> virtual drives.

This kind of behavior, companies limiting what their own customers can do
with their software through crippling technologies, is really bad.
Unfortunately, you can expect to see a lot more of this in the future.

Jenny100

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Mar 31, 2004, 11:16:05 PM3/31/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Andrew Plotkin <erky...@eblong.com> wrote in
> news:c4ford$bsk$1...@reader1.panix.com:
>
>
>>Right. Time to install DaemonTools, so that I know when a game is
>>incompatible with it, so that I can return the game.
>
>
> Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
> Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked.
>I still buy the game, but I just don't bother opening the
>box any more.
>

I don't know if it's StarForce this time.
Uru had a copy "protection" that wouldn't run with certain
software installed, and according to one copy protection
database I found Uru uses Safedisc 3.10.020.
What I'd like to know is whether what's on Syberia 2
is going to leave unwanted drivers behind that might
conflict with hardware, like StarForce did.

I am so sick of buying crippled software with
deliberate incompatibilities purposefully built in.

Shadowspawn

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Apr 1, 2004, 12:56:24 AM4/1/04
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:58:46 -0600, Robert Norton <r...@execpc.com>
wrote:

Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.

Some game company needs to release a game without any protection and I
bet they find they make just as much profit. The people that are
going to buy it are going to buy it and the people that are going to
pirate it will find away to do so. But the people that have problems
with copy protection will return it or not buy it in the first place.

Murray Peterson

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:18:37 AM4/1/04
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Shadowspawn <nos...@msn.com> wrote in
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> Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
> SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.

A nocd crack is available for downloading already on
alt.binaries.games.encrypted. How's that for slowing down the pirates?

Mary

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:43:11 AM4/1/04
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"Shadowspawn" <nos...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:58:46 -0600, Robert Norton <r...@execpc.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:09:02 +0000, Cassie wrote:
> >
> >> It is not that these software do not work with the protection software,
> >> it is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these
> >> software titles to prevent the protected product launching from the
> >> virtual drives.
> >
> >This kind of behavior, companies limiting what their own customers can do
> >with their software through crippling technologies, is really bad.
> >Unfortunately, you can expect to see a lot more of this in the future.
>
> Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
> SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.

Pirates probably see it as an interesting challenge.

> Some game company needs to release a game without any protection and I
> bet they find they make just as much profit. The people that are
> going to buy it are going to buy it and the people that are going to
> pirate it will find away to do so. But the people that have problems
> with copy protection will return it or not buy it in the first place.

I am sure a lot of people agree, but obviously the game companies don't.
They need to wake up.

Mary


Mary

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Apr 1, 2004, 1:44:13 AM4/1/04
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"Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Shadowspawn <nos...@msn.com> wrote in
> news:hjbn6019ei28becog...@4ax.com:
>
> > Sad thing is it only slowing down the legitiment gamers and hurts
> > SALES. Pirates expect and accept minor annoyances like this.
>
> A nocd crack is available for downloading already on
> alt.binaries.games.encrypted. How's that for slowing down the pirates?

Wow. They didn't take long to meet the challenge, did they?

Mary


Jenny100

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Apr 1, 2004, 2:08:22 AM4/1/04
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Where's the Uru crack?

Shadowspawn

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Apr 1, 2004, 6:27:49 AM4/1/04
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Reminds me of the old days when they put the lpt1 dongle on business
software (mainly CAD and 3D Studio). It cost the companies $200-300
PER DONGLE and hackers would bypass the entire parallel port with a
simple TSR program and negate an expensive piece of protection.

I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
duplication factory.

Murray Peterson

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:25:59 AM4/1/04
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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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> I don't know if it's StarForce this time.
> Uru had a copy "protection" that wouldn't run with certain
> software installed, and according to one copy protection
> database I found Uru uses Safedisc 3.10.020.
> What I'd like to know is whether what's on Syberia 2
> is going to leave unwanted drivers behind that might
> conflict with hardware, like StarForce did.
>

The people that cracked the game protection say that it is Safedisc 3.

Murray Peterson

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:26:50 AM4/1/04
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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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> Where's the Uru crack?

No idea -- I haven't looked for that one. PErhaps gamecopyworld has it
online?

Hartmut Schmider

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Apr 1, 2004, 11:02:22 AM4/1/04
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c> If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall
c> any of the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.

That is mipselled for "If turning off the emulation does not work, then
please uninstall the game, and any of the software listed should run with
no problem."

Regards, Tumtrah "vice versa" Redimhcs
--
Hartmut Schmider, Queen's University h...@post.queensu.ca
Man lebt nicht einmal einmal. Karl Kraus

Mary

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Apr 1, 2004, 11:54:15 AM4/1/04
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"Shadowspawn" <nos...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Crazy, isn't it?

> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.

They are either naive or misguided. I am sure they must know their programs
are being cracked, but they must think that their copy protection schemes
prevent some of it, but for people who want to pirate or crack games, the
copy protect doesn't do anything except annoy genuine buyers. In fact, the
copy protection probably creates even more pirating than it would if there
was none. You would think the game companies would learn, but they don't
seem to.

Mary


Hartmut Schmider

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Apr 1, 2004, 12:08:40 PM4/1/04
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> "m" == Mary

m> They are either naive or misguided. I am sure they must know their
m> programs are being cracked, but they must think that their copy
m> protection schemes prevent some of it, but for people who want to
m> pirate or crack games, the copy protect doesn't do anything except
m> annoy genuine buyers. In fact, the copy protection probably creates
m> even more pirating than it would if there was none. You would think
m> the game companies would learn, but they don't seem to.

There's nothing to learn. I'm sure they are aware of this. Their
ineffective and annoying schemes have the upside that they are cheap and
keep casual piracy to a minimum. They lose a certain amount of revenue to
semi-professional crackers one way or the other, but they keep Joe Blow
from making a copy for Mike Dumbass, who in term will have to buy one if he
wants to be in with the in crowd.

Of course, they also piss off some potential legitimate buyers, but that's
a price they're willing to pay. Despite the high-falut'n' proclamations on
Usenet, most regular gamers are so addicted to this stuff they'll swallow
anything. The only real way to get this nonsense to stop is in fact to
find out beforehand if a game uses this kind of scheme, and then make a
point of not buying it. Complete with note sent to the distributor
indicating what caused the decision.

But who's going to go through all that?

Regards, Hartmut "easy for me to have a big mouth, I wouldn't have bought
this game anyhow" Schmider

Stas Starkov

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Apr 1, 2004, 11:21:43 AM4/1/04
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"Shadowspawn" <nos...@msn.com> wrote:
> Reminds me of the old days when they put the lpt1 dongle on business
> software (mainly CAD and 3D Studio). It cost the companies $200-300
> PER DONGLE and hackers would bypass the entire parallel port with a
> simple TSR program and negate an expensive piece of protection.

They still are doing that. And $50-100 is not too much for a $5000
program (that's real numbers). Certainly cracking the protection is
still possible, but isn't easy now.

> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.

For some not so common programs that's a real answer to piracy -- you
need to _find_ a good enough hacker to crack the protection. Most
people don't bother doing that. For "famous" programs (WinXP,
MS Office, games, etc.) the "protection" is just stupidity.


Jenny100

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Apr 1, 2004, 2:16:38 PM4/1/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:9IMac.6987$yN6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>I don't know if it's StarForce this time.
>>Uru had a copy "protection" that wouldn't run with certain
>>software installed, and according to one copy protection
>>database I found Uru uses Safedisc 3.10.020.
>>What I'd like to know is whether what's on Syberia 2
>>is going to leave unwanted drivers behind that might
>>conflict with hardware, like StarForce did.
>>
>
>
> The people that cracked the game protection say that it is Safedisc 3.


I was wondering if they used the same copy "protection" on
Syberia 2 as they did on Uru. The complaints about getting
it to work were similar - didn't work with some drives,
had to uninstall virtual drive programs. But when I checked
"the usual" website to see if there was a Uru crack, it only
had a link to a walkthrough. At least Safedisk 3, as far as I
know, does not leave copy "protection" drivers on your hard
drive. If it had, I assume you'd have reported it in your
review of Uru.

Jenny100

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Apr 1, 2004, 2:37:53 PM4/1/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:GdPac.7049$yN6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>Where's the Uru crack?
>
>
> No idea -- I haven't looked for that one. PErhaps gamecopyworld has it
> online?
>

Nope. They only list a walkthrough.
Maybe they figured it was useless to post a Uru crack since
it was supposed to be an online game.

Jenny100

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Apr 1, 2004, 2:45:01 PM4/1/04
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By the way, did you get my email?

David Adrien Tanguay

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Apr 1, 2004, 4:15:08 PM4/1/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
> Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I still buy
> the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.

This has been my m.o. for a while, too. Not because of copy protection
(although that would do it, with Starforce), but because of those stupid
registration things they put in that pop up every time you boot (daily, for
me).
--
David Tanguay http://www.sentex.ca/~datanguayh/
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada [43.24N 80.29W]

David Adrien Tanguay

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Apr 1, 2004, 4:20:46 PM4/1/04
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Shadowspawn wrote:
> Some game company needs to release a game without any protection and I
> bet they find they make just as much profit. The people that are
> going to buy it are going to buy it and the people that are going to
> pirate it will find away to do so. But the people that have problems
> with copy protection will return it or not buy it in the first place.

At least some of the Nancy Drew games don't have any. At least, I was able
to do a full install by hand and put the discs away. I haven't tried it with
the most recent ones. Their sales are near the top of the adventure heap.

Murray Peterson

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Apr 1, 2004, 4:56:37 PM4/1/04
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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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> At least Safedisk 3, as far as I
> know, does not leave copy "protection" drivers on your hard
> drive. If it had, I assume you'd have reported it in your
> review of Uru.
>

The copy protection on URU was fairly "benign" -- it just checked my disk
at startup, and then I could play the game. Definitely no device drivers
installed as in Starforce.

Murray Peterson

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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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> By the way, did you get my email?

Yep -- and responded to it.

Murray Peterson

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David Adrien Tanguay <datan...@sentex.cookie.can> wrote in
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> Murray Peterson wrote:
>> Good old Starforce copy protection strikes again... :-(
>> Do as I do -- wait until the copy protection has been cracked. I
>> still buy the game, but I just don't bother opening the box any more.
>
> This has been my m.o. for a while, too. Not because of copy protection
> (although that would do it, with Starforce), but because of those
> stupid registration things they put in that pop up every time you boot
> (daily, for me).

I haven't run into any of those yet -- if I do, it will certainly be in any
review I write.

Robert Norton

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Apr 1, 2004, 7:47:34 PM4/1/04
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:27:49 +0000, Shadowspawn wrote:

> I can't believe software companies are so naive that they don't
> release these programs are being cracked before they are out of the
> duplication factory.

Believe it! I can't really say why. :-(

Robert Norton

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Apr 1, 2004, 7:51:17 PM4/1/04
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 11:02:22 -0500, Hartmut Schmider wrote:

> That is mipselled for "If turning off the emulation does not work, then
> please uninstall the game, and any of the software listed should run with
> no problem."

Exactly so. I might add "and return it for credit" after "game".

Celtic

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Apr 1, 2004, 9:45:24 PM4/1/04
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"Mary" <no...@invalid.com> wrote in message news:<1TOac.23$6Qp...@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...

Thats just it. It took only a few hours after Syberia 2's release
before it was cracked and avail all over the net. Withing hours last
night there was over 3,000 people downloading it. Shoot - most games
are cracked and avail days even weeks before the official release.
Copy protection does nothing but annoy the people who buy it. Those
who download it don't have to bother with any of it...

Mary

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Apr 1, 2004, 10:40:55 PM4/1/04
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"Celtic" <voiv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Is the entire game all over the net in binary groups you mean?
I don't know a lot about cracks and stuff, but you can use a noCD to get
past the copy protect, but you still need the game Cd in the CDrom. So a
crack must be something different.

Mary


Murray Peterson

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Apr 1, 2004, 11:55:33 PM4/1/04
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"Mary" <no...@invalid.com> wrote in
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> Is the entire game all over the net in binary groups you mean?
> I don't know a lot about cracks and stuff, but you can use a noCD to get
> past the copy protect, but you still need the game Cd in the CDrom. So a
> crack must be something different.

Both the complete game as well as the nocd crack have been posted on
newsgroups. The nocd crack consists of a replacement Syberia.exe file.

Mary

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Apr 2, 2004, 12:06:23 AM4/2/04
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"Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Mary" <no...@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:bh5bc.4555$qMF....@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:
>
> > Is the entire game all over the net in binary groups you mean?
> > I don't know a lot about cracks and stuff, but you can use a noCD to get
> > past the copy protect, but you still need the game Cd in the CDrom. So a
> > crack must be something different.
>
> Both the complete game as well as the nocd crack have been posted on
> newsgroups. The nocd crack consists of a replacement Syberia.exe file.

I didn't know you meant the complete game. I've never seen anything as fast
as that. The game just came out. Did you get the game yet Murray? I think I
will get it tomorrow at EB. They just got it on Tuesday I think.
I saw on the TV weather, you got some nice sunny days in Calgary this week
with people going around in shorts and sitting in the park and sidewalk
cafes. We have had nothing but rain here all week and snow flurries maybe
for Saturday, but then it suddenly goes up to 60 one of these days, then its
95 all summer it seems, so I don't complain about the rain. I prefer the
winters to the summers here.

Mary


Jenny100

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Apr 2, 2004, 1:33:25 AM4/2/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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>
>
>>By the way, did you get my email?
>
>
> Yep -- and responded to it.
>


I didn't get it. :(
Can you send it again?

Murray Peterson

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"Mary" <no...@invalid.com> wrote in
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> Did you get the game yet Murray?

Not yet -- I am planning to stop at EB on the way home from work tonight.
Besides Syberia, there is another game that looks interesting -- Egyptian
Prophecy: the Fate of Ramses.

Murray Peterson

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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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Just re-sent it. Does yur email account have problems with .exe file
attachments?

Jenny100

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Apr 2, 2004, 5:01:39 PM4/2/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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>
>
>>Murray Peterson wrote:
>>
>>>Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
>>>news:1j_ac.7612$yN6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>By the way, did you get my email?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yep -- and responded to it.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I didn't get it. :(
>>Can you send it again?
>
>
> Just re-sent it. Does yur email account have problems with .exe file
> attachments?
>

I still haven't received it.
I had Earthlink's virus blocker turned on. Maybe it thinks
every exe file is a virus. I've been receiving other
attachments. I'll turn the virus blocker off now.
Supposedly "quarantined" messages are now supposed to
appear in my Inbox, but I don't see anything from you.
I even searched the "known spam" folder on the web and
didn't find any messages from you.
Maybe if you zipped it?
Or just try sending me a message without an attachment
and see if I get that.

Mary

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Apr 2, 2004, 6:43:45 PM4/2/04
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"Murray Peterson" <m...@home.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Mary" <no...@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:jx6bc.6230$qMF....@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com:
>
> > Did you get the game yet Murray?
>
> Not yet -- I am planning to stop at EB on the way home from work tonight.
> Besides Syberia, there is another game that looks interesting -- Egyptian
> Prophecy: the Fate of Ramses.

I got my Syberia2 copy this afternoon at EB. They also had Egyptian
Prophecy, but I think I've had enough of Egyptian game themes for now. I'll
have to see what you or others say about it. It was a lot cheaper than
Syberia2 - only $20.00. The Manager mentioned that he got 24 copies of
Syberia2 on Wednesday afternoon and already sold 21 copies. I had told them
to put one aside for me to pick up today.
He said it was Syberia2 sold well for just two days (for an adventure game)
but they sell a lot more combat type games and they also sell Playstation
games. He commented that three adventure games came out in the last 10
days - Weekend in Capri, Syberia2 and Egyptian Prophecy, and as we know
there haven't been many adventure games out in the last year. It would be
nice if it continued.

Mary


Jenny100

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Apr 2, 2004, 11:16:33 PM4/2/04
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Mary wrote:
>
> I got my Syberia2 copy this afternoon at EB. They also had Egyptian
> Prophecy, but I think I've had enough of Egyptian game themes for now. I'll
> have to see what you or others say about it.

The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
tedious review, check here
http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm

Mary

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"Jenny100" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Well, its long but I wouldn't say tedious. Its a well written review with
good detail. Well done Jenny.

Mary


Murray Peterson

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Apr 3, 2004, 2:59:49 AM4/3/04
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Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
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> The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
> I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
> tedious review, check here
> http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm
>

Nice review -- sounds like I will need to add it to my list.

Jenny100

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Apr 3, 2004, 4:37:10 PM4/3/04
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Murray Peterson wrote:
> Jenny100 <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:BUqbc.9171$yN6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
>>I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
>>tedious review, check here
>>http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm
>>
>
>
> Nice review -- sounds like I will need to add it to my list.
>

I think you'll like it OK, but I know you'll miss Tifet.

David Adrien Tanguay

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Apr 4, 2004, 4:59:24 AM4/4/04
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Jenny100 wrote:
> The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
> I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
> tedious review, check here
> http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm

Just for curiosity's sake, or maybe my anal retentive nature (hey, we *are*
adventurers here): You continually suggest that The Egyptian Prophecy is the
continuation of Egypt 1156 BC and Egypt 2. Those later games were made by
Cryo (Canal+ and Reunion des Musees Nationaux), and TEP was made by Kheops
(and here I was guessing TEP would be Riddle of the Sphinx 3). Is Kheops
the old Cryo development team resurfacing? Are there lots of French names in
the development credits?

Jenny100

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Apr 4, 2004, 3:37:23 PM4/4/04
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David Adrien Tanguay wrote:
> Jenny100 wrote:
>
>> The Egyptian Prophecy is actually a lot better than I expected.
>> I really had fun with it. If you want to read my long and
>> tedious review, check here
>> http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Tt/TEPbyjenny100.htm
>
>
> Just for curiosity's sake, or maybe my anal retentive nature (hey, we *are*
> adventurers here): You continually suggest that The Egyptian Prophecy is
> the
> continuation of Egypt 1156 BC and Egypt 2.

The plots of the games aren't really connected. But I noticed
a file that said Egypt3 in the installation. And this French
review refers to the game as Egypt 3.
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2004/00008014.htm

> Those later games were made by
> Cryo (Canal+ and Reunion des Musees Nationaux), and TEP was made by Kheops
> (and here I was guessing TEP would be Riddle of the Sphinx 3). Is Kheops
> the old Cryo development team resurfacing?

Possibly. I've wondering about that myself.
The developers at Cryo must have gone somewhere.
The game interfaces are very similar.

The Kheops website is here
http://www.kheops-studio.fr/
but there's not much information on it.

> Are there lots of French names in the development credits?

I don't remember. I think there were a few, but I don't
remember if they were the same as worked on the old
Cryo games.

David Adrien Tanguay

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Apr 5, 2004, 2:17:23 AM4/5/04
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Jenny100 wrote:
[re TEP == Egypt 3, is it the old Cryo crew?]

> Possibly. I've wondering about that myself.
> The developers at Cryo must have gone somewhere.
> The game interfaces are very similar.
>
> The Kheops website is here
> http://www.kheops-studio.fr/
> but there's not much information on it.

They're located in Paris, France, so that is consistent with the hypothesis.
They're also involved with The Crystal Key 2.

hans

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Apr 5, 2004, 8:33:12 AM4/5/04
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Here's some more info:

http://www.pcpointer.de/egypt3_englisch_interview.php


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Jenny100

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Apr 5, 2004, 3:15:30 PM4/5/04
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hans wrote:
> Here's some more info:
>
> http://www.pcpointer.de/egypt3_englisch_interview.php
>

Thanks for the link.

erimess

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Apr 7, 2004, 6:02:28 AM4/7/04
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On 01 Apr 2004 12:08:40 -0500, Hartmut Schmider <h...@post.queensu.ca>
wrote:

>> The only real way to get this nonsense to stop is in fact to
>find out beforehand if a game uses this kind of scheme, and then make a
>point of not buying it. Complete with note sent to the distributor
>indicating what caused the decision.
>
>But who's going to go through all that?

I'll write to the distributor and will enjoy every minute of it too.

---
erimess

My therapist told me a way to achieve
inner peace was to finish things I had
started. Today I finished 2 bags of potato
chips, a lemon pie, a fifth of Jack Daniel's
and a small box of chocolate candy.
I feel better already.

erimess

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Apr 7, 2004, 6:05:50 AM4/7/04
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:09:02 GMT, "Cassie" <castali...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


>
>It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
>is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
>titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
>If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
>the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.

Isn't using the virtual drives for games part of the POINT of using
one of those softwares? This is like a contradiction in terms.

Andrew Plotkin

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Apr 7, 2004, 11:52:40 AM4/7/04
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Here, erimess wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:09:02 GMT, "Cassie" <castali...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
> >is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
> >titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
> >If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
> >the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.
>
> Isn't using the virtual drives for games part of the POINT of using
> one of those softwares? This is like a contradiction in terms.

No, it's a contradiction in intents. The people who create
virtual-drive software want you to be able to use it for games. The
people who create games want you to *not* be able to do that.

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
*
* Make your vote count. Get your vote counted.

Andrew Plotkin

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Apr 7, 2004, 2:29:14 PM4/7/04
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Here, Michael Cecil <mac...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Plotkin
> <erky...@eblong.com> wrote:
>
> >Here, erimess wrote:
> >> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:09:02 GMT, "Cassie" <castali...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It is not that these software do not work with the protection software, it
> >> >is just that the emulation option needs to be turned OFF in these software
> >> >titles to prevent the protected product launching from the virtual drives.
> >> >If turning off the emulation does not work, then please uninstall any of
> >> >the software listed, and the game should run with no problem.
> >>
> >> Isn't using the virtual drives for games part of the POINT of using
> >> one of those softwares? This is like a contradiction in terms.
> >
> >No, it's a contradiction in intents. The people who create
> >virtual-drive software want you to be able to use it for games. The
> >people who create games want you to *not* be able to do that.
>
> Makes it hard to play the game when your laptop doesn't have a optical
> drive and you're used to installing from over a network or from a virtual
> drive.

I didn't say the people who create games wanted your life to be
convenient. :)

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