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G. S. Reis

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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I have just finished "DragonSphere", but I could not find any way other than
trial and error to answer the questions about Sanwe, before entering his
tower. I found two walkthroughs on the Web. One was horribly written, but the
other was pretty good and detailed. Both had the correct answers, but neither
explained HOW to get to them. Does anyone know? If you play in novice mode,
there's a message when you die, saying that you knew all the answers when you
were a kid.

Glaucio
http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


Trent O'Leary

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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Maybe in the manual there is a back story to the game and you can find
the answers there.

This is just a guess.


G. S. Reis

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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>Maybe in the manual there is a back story to the game and you can find
>the answers there.
>
>This is just a guess.

There's very little background info in the manual. Besides, some kind of
manual-based copy protection was the first thing I thought of.

Glaucio
http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


Gerhard J. Woeginger

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Dec 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/9/98
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In article <91315100...@triceratops.centroin.com.br> NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis) writes:
>From: NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis)
>Subject: DragonSphere
>Date: 8 Dec 1998 21:03:24 GMT

>I have just finished "DragonSphere", but I could not find any way other than
>trial and error to answer the questions about Sanwe, before entering his
>tower. I found two walkthroughs on the Web. One was horribly written, but the
>other was pretty good and detailed. Both had the correct answers, but neither
>explained HOW to get to them. Does anyone know? If you play in novice mode,
>there's a message when you die, saying that you knew all the answers when you
>were a kid.

>Glaucio
>http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis

I also found the answers by trial and error; it did not take so long. Maybe
the answers are hidden somewhere in the leaflet that comes with the game
(which I do not have).

Gerhard

___________________________________________________________
Gerhard J. Woeginger (gwo...@opt.math.tu-graz.ac.at)


Karmo Talts

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Dec 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/9/98
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: I have just finished "DragonSphere", but I could not find any way other than
: trial and error to answer the questions about Sanwe, before entering his
i dunno. Maybe it's in intro? I hear first time,that novice version says this
(i plaied only chalenging version).

K

bob.m...@usa.net

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Dec 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/9/98
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Glaucio,

Have you read the "Question Six - Who is the sorcerer sanwe and why must
we fear him?" in the manual?


-Bob

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Trina Borrás

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis) wrote:

>I have just finished "DragonSphere", but I could not find any way other than
>trial and error to answer the questions about Sanwe, before entering his

>tower. I found two walkthroughs on the Web. One was horribly written, but the
>other was pretty good and detailed. Both had the correct answers, but neither
>explained HOW to get to them. Does anyone know? If you play in novice mode,
>there's a message when you die, saying that you knew all the answers when you
>were a kid.

Hi,

I don't remember getting that message on the next level of difficulty,
but, considering the answers are not in the game (and assuming they
aren't arbitrary, which I definitely do assume) it's a *lovely* clue,
for the answers were to be found in one's pre-existing knowledge of
.. ahem, "dragons," esp. the man-eating, fire-breathing sort; and
where does one first become familiar with them ... in kid's lit, esp.
fairy tales.

SPOILER ALERT to any one who's playing D and not got into castle ...
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First of all, I didn't differentiate between the sorcerer and dragon,
it just wouldn't make sense to. In this game, as far as I've gotten,
there's no association between the sorcerer and any other creature. So
I was actually thinking of the sorcerer as dragon when answering the
questions.

The first one. Red is the only possible answer. I just *knew* this,
I didn't need to analyze it, but if my memory serves every dragon
(except kindly ones) I ever met up with in lit had burning red
eyes--and if it didn't, well it should have! And, don't forget, red
is the color we use to symbolize danger. Ever heard of a dragon with
great big soulful brown eyes, or cornflower blues? :)

The last one is the next easiest, I did have to search the old memory
banks for what I "knew" about dragons. To my knowledge reptiles (and
dragons are reptiles) are *carnivores*. How do I know this (not being
a zoologist)? Because of the stories I've heard of crocodiles (or
alligators, they may not both be guilty of this, and I can't keep them
straight) eating children and other unwary people who fall into
Florida swamps, and, secondarily, I was pretty sure dinausaurs were
meat-eaters (although I do have a memory of a picture of some tall
dinausaur eating leaves from trees, probably from a children's book,
so maybe they were only *primarily* meat-eaters), thus I ruled out
veggies, fruit and other wimpy stuff on that list.

The middle question makes pretty good sense if you really think about
it, but it's not so obvious. You need to visualize a dragon and hope
you're getting his physical attributes right. We know this guy has
wings because we can see them in the sphere back at home, so we can
probably rule out "arms." Reptilian backs are covered with scales,
that's their armor. So, where are they most vulnerable? I'd guess in
the tummie. And those short funny-looking legs, the latter not being
covered with scales as far as I could see (in my mental picture).
While I did conjure up this picture in my mind in the interest of
making a wise choice, I didn't do so to begin with, thus my having
twice experienced dying and being able to say that I don't *remember*
getting that cute clue! (-8

Trina

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>Glaucio
>http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


G. S. Reis

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In article <74mfrs$gsv$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, bob.m...@usa.net says...

>Have you read the "Question Six - Who is the sorcerer sanwe and why must
>we fear him?" in the manual?

My manual doesn't have this or any other question. It's just a 20-page booklet
with instructions and nothing about the storyline, characters or background
info. If your manual is different, please let me know. Is it possible that
Microprose has changed the manual in the later copies? I bought mine quite
recently, but it was a full version, in the big box (not jewel-case).

Thanks to all who replied!

Glaucio
http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


G. S. Reis

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Jan 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/2/99
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>Have you read the "Question Six - Who is the sorcerer sanwe and why must
>we fear him?" in the manual?

It looks like my copy of "Dragonsphere" didn't come with the complete manual.
But it did come with a separate leaf containing this "question six".
Unfortunately, I had put it apart with the registration form and forgot about
it. Thanks!

Glaucio
http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


Trina Borrás

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Jan 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/5/99
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NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis) wrote:

Glaucio,

Mine came with NO manual relating to the gameitself, only the jewel
box insert which is about "romzon" games generally -- but it has the
word dragonspherre ono the cover and pic of dragon head (red eyes!) --
(I can't figure out is romzon the asme as microprose or a series) and
the installation instructions apply to all the series' games. Is
there a strictly-dragonsphere manual, this one was a big
disappoiintment. Do I need to know about this question six? I don't
remember if I got a reg form as I would have trashed it but I wouldn't
have traashed something that said "question 6." Is your game inside a
really thin purple box and on the top left does it say "Players
Choice" and above Dragonsphere's name does it say "Adventure,"
leading me to think this is a special budget edition series? I
haven't finished the game yet (I'm playing so many games at the same
time and reading a lot more than playing games so everything's on hold
at the moment), will I be heldup without this insert? Am I going to
face copy protection not equipped to handle? I don't remembr for sure
but I'm pretty sure my game was brand new, or was *supposed* to be
(was shrinkwrapped). Please advise, thanks,

Trina

P.S. Sorry about owing you a letter, no heat (living room), radiator
thing you spin? fell apart in my hands corroded completely (this is an
old building), so I'm limited to one post or e-mail at a time (even
day on occasion) as my fingers get too stiff. Tried typing in gloves,
didn't work. Will rectify situation soon.

>Glaucio
>http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis

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Gabriele Neukam

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Jan 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/5/99
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On 2 Jan 1999 21:50:55 GMT, NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis) wrote:

>
>My manual doesn't have this or any other question. It's just a 20-page booklet
>with instructions and nothing about the storyline, characters or background
>info. If your manual is different, please let me know. Is it possible that
>Microprose has changed the manual in the later copies? I bought mine quite
>recently, but it was a full version, in the big box (not jewel-case).
>

Mine was a kind of tall but thin book, with the CD attached to the
right of its interiors, and a booklet in the left half of it, where
that text could be found. It looked like an excerpt from a teaching
book, in a tutorial style, to make the young prince learn about his
future kingdom and its inhabitants.


Bob Morlock

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Jan 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/6/99
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In article <3692796d...@news.btx.dtag.de>, Gabriel...@t-online.de says...

> Mine was a kind of tall but thin book, with the CD attached to the
> right of its interiors, and a booklet in the left half of it, where
> that text could be found. It looked like an excerpt from a teaching
> book, in a tutorial style, to make the young prince learn about his
> future kingdom and its inhabitants.

Yes, that's the one I have too. I think it is the original package directly
from Microprose in 1994.

I am still uncertain if the "Question Six" is copy protection or not.
If somebody sends me a question from the game, I could check and see if
the answer is there, ok?


Bob
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Bob Morlock

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G. S. Reis

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Jan 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/11/99
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>Is
>there a strictly-dragonsphere manual, this one was a big
>disappoiintment.

Yes, there is. My copy of the game came in the full big box. Both the box and
the manual have a picture of the king standing and looking at the mountain
with a castle (rather than a tower) on the top, which is enveloped by the
magical sphere containing just a monochrome shade of the dragon (no red eyes).
The manual has instructions on how to play the game, but nothing about the
story. The separate leaf I talked about starts: "Being an excerpt from the
examination paper of Prince Callash, in his 14th year, as reported by Finnak
Llay, the Royal Tutor. Question Six: Who is the Sorcerer Sanwe, and why must
we fear him?". Then comes the answer, which fills the rest of the letter-size
paper. Among a lot of other things, it says:
"During the Battle of Hightower the sorcerer was actually struck a sword-blow
on the leg by my ancestor."
"... tribute consists of various foodstuffs (including grains, fruits, cows,
and vegetables)..."
"... his face is always obscured by a large hood. Only his glowing red eyes
are visible."

I don't really know whether there is a version of the manual with the complete
examination paper. I have no idea on what "romzon" games are, but if they have
other games similar to "DragonSphere", I'd like to know about. I believe you
really got a special budget edition. But don't worry, that's all the copy
protection you'll find in this game, and you went through. You don't need any
other info from outside in order to finish it. In time: the registration form
I mentioned was from the Brazilian distributor.

Glaucio
http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


Good Samaritan

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Jan 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/11/99
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Trina Borrás wrote in message <77edt6$86l$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>...

>NOSPAM...@pobox.com (G. S. Reis) wrote:
>
>>>Is
>>>there a strictly-dragonsphere manual, this one was a big
>>>disappoiintment.
>SNIP
>.....

>>Llay, the Royal Tutor. Question Six: Who is the Sorcerer Sanwe, and why
must
>>we fear him?". Then comes the answer, which fills the rest of the
letter-size
>>paper. Among a lot of other things, it says:
>>"During the Battle of Hightower the sorcerer was actually struck a
sword-blow
>>on the leg by my ancestor."
>
>YAY! Glaucio, I finally .... GOT it! Question 6, it's not question 6
>in the GAME but in the examination paper, and the answers to it are
>those to that part of the game we discussed before redeyes, beef stew
>and appendages known for peripatetia. In other words, there will be
>no more questions (in the game) -- at least questions for which one
>needs (but not really witness 1-3) needs the exam. Phew (not that
>those were hard but I was imagining question 6 would be a knockout).
>So, forget all that uncertainty expressed before and request for
>reassurances etc., (but not the hints) well if that's what they call
>copy protection I'm all for it, it beats the cliffs of logic any day.
>Most of all it beats what's the last word in the second sentence of
>paragraph seven on page 34.
>
>Romzon is oh who knows. Not mentioned on outer box although that it's
>budget edition is quite obvious. The name first appears in all its
>brashness on the cover of the jewelcase insert ROM and in even bigger
>leters a bit crossing the M is ZON ! like in a batman cartoon, where
>you have big symbols to represent fighting going onnn. Tacky tacky,
>the dragon head. Anyway, the games advertised therein (and they must
>be microprose games, microproses name's on the back of the booklet)
>are railroad tycoon and one about golf and return of phanton, stealth
>fighter, junk I'll wager but then they say there are demos of
>microprpose games on the disk (which I never checked ... more junk no
>wonder I didn't wste my time, "x-com ufo" "x-com terror from the deep"
>"transport tycoon" and so on.
>
>Do you think the first part of the word ROMZON has to do with games
>being on cd-roms? Thus ROM. Ok, I figured out the first syllable, now
>it's your turn!

>
>>I don't really know whether there is a version of the manual with the
complete
>>examination paper. I have no idea on what "romzon" games are, but if they
have
>
>Thanks a lot,

>
>Trina
>posted/cc'd by e-mail


Romzon=Most computers nowadays have CD Romzon them.


Trina Borrás

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Jan 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/12/99
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Thanks a lot,

>Glaucio
>http://www.pobox.com/~gsreis


Trina Borrás

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"Good Samaritan" <Head-...@clouds.com> wrote:


SNIPPAGE


>>Do you think the first part of the word ROMZON has to do with games
>>being on cd-roms? Thus ROM. Ok, I figured out the first syllable, now
>>it's your turn!

<the above is the question, namely what does "zon" signify -- just
speculation>


>>
>>>I don't really know whether there is a version of the manual with the
>complete
>>>examination paper. I have no idea on what "romzon" games are, but if they
>have
>>
>>Thanks a lot,
>>
>>Trina
>>posted/cc'd by e-mail

>Romzon=Most computers nowadays have CD Romzon them.

HUH?


Trina Borrás

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tbo...@mindspring.com (Trina Borrás) wrote:

>"Good Samaritan" <Head-...@clouds.com> wrote:
////////////////
hmmmmm

>SNIPPAGE
>>>Do you think the first part of the word ROMZON has to do with games
>>>being on cd-roms? Thus ROM. Ok, I figured out the first syllable, now
>>>it's your turn!

SNIP SNIP

>>Romzon=Most computers nowadays have CD Romzon them.

>HUH?

Ohhhh .... now I know how the others must have felt when you answered
their questions, and more so. So, a *double* touche' to you!

spaceboy

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Trina Borrás wrote:

<snip>

> Romzon is oh who knows. Not mentioned on outer box although that it's
> budget edition is quite obvious. The name first appears in all its
> brashness on the cover of the jewelcase insert ROM and in even bigger
> leters a bit crossing the M is ZON ! like in a batman cartoon, where
> you have big symbols to represent fighting going onnn. Tacky tacky,
> the dragon head. Anyway, the games advertised therein (and they must
> be microprose games, microproses name's on the back of the booklet)
> are railroad tycoon and one about golf and return of phanton, stealth
> fighter, junk I'll wager but then they say there are demos of
> microprpose games on the disk (which I never checked ... more junk no
> wonder I didn't wste my time, "x-com ufo" "x-com terror from the deep"
> "transport tycoon" and so on.

X-Com is a great game, actually. I know you're not in the slightest bit
interested, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

spaceboy

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