Atkinson = prick
Jonah Falcon
Schrodinger
"Jonah Falcon" <jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/12/05/how-atkinson-holds-aussie-gamers-hostage/
>
> (sigh)
>
It's incredibly un-democratic that one man can affect all adults in the
country because of his bigoted views.
Tim O
How long before they catch him with 2 whores on the side or diddling
little kids? Its always these holier-than-thou motherfuckers who are
up to that kind of shit.
Nostromo
-0500, Anno Domini:
Yes, US Congress & Senate is full of righteous, God-fearing, law-abiding
model citizens <rolls eyes>.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
15:52:08 -0500, Anno Domini:
>http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/12/05/how-atkinson-holds-aussie-gamers-hostage/
>
>(sigh)
Sigh it up your arse you piss-poor link spammer wannabe troll. And mind your
own fucking business. When you get the mountains of shit in your own utterly
fucked up country within a bee's dick of anything approaching moral
integrity, then come back & pontificate about other countries' laws & codes
of ethics. Pull the giant redwood out of your own eye first, dickhead. Then
come back, or don't, no one here will give a shit. Don't make hold
Here's another tip: start using your freedom of speech to S...T...F...U. I
know most of us here will be delighted, you Asperger's ignoramus. You have
become beyond laughable & pathetic now.
(And don't even flatter yourself that you've somehow managed to troll me
with this lame attempt at self-righteous crap - this is just my way of
starting the day with yet another laugh at your fucktarded expense & then
moving onto things that actually warrant my undivided attention - I wrote
this on the crapper on my laptop btw, which is a better response than you
deserve ROFLMFAO! >8^D)
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Nostromo
Buster
skin! It's a clear case of penis envy. LOL!
Tim O
Wasn't attacking your country dude. I agree with what you said about
US politicians as well.
Unless you agree with what he's doing, I don't understand why you'd be
defensive about it.
Buster
wrote:
Struggling with his homosexual fantasies about Joneser Falco. lol
Jonah Falcon
"Buster" <ig...@bafloo.com> wrote in message
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Please don't include me in YOUR fantasies. plonk
Buister
<jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Unless you agree with what he's doing, I don't understand why you'd be
>>>defensive about it.
>>
>> Struggling with his homosexual fantasies about Joneser Falco. lol
>
>Please don't include me in YOUR fantasies. plonk
Plonk? Is that the sound of your jones hitting the terlet water when
you pinch a loaf? lol
Morgan
> It's hilarious how effectively Joneser Falco gets under NastyHomos
> skin! It's a clear case of penis envy. LOL!
Nah, it's just that Jonah is a spamming retard and a self-confessed
troll who lives in a fantasy world where he's a respected Gaming
Journalist.
Buster
wrote:
Actually I find some of what Joneser posts to be fairly interesting,
it's just the whole big penis thing that cracks me up. NastyHomo has
yet to display a redeeming quality as far as I can tell?
Don Lope de Aguirre
> US politicians as well.
>
> Unless you agree with what he's doing, I don't understand why you'd be
> defensive about it.
Because he is a dumbass Aussie git who thinks you are attacking his country.
Don Lope de Aguirre
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> Sigh it up your arse you piss-poor link spammer wannabe troll. And mind
> your
> own fucking business. When you get the mountains of shit in your own
> utterly
> fucked up country within a bee's dick of anything approaching moral
> integrity, then come back & pontificate about other countries' laws &
> codes
> of ethics. Pull the giant redwood out of your own eye first, dickhead.
> Then
> come back, or don't, no one here will give a shit. Don't make hold
Wow, I think you must be this Atkinson dork and are using this group to
figure out which games to ban in Aus.
Morgan
Nostromo can be a complete arse, I'm well aware of that. But at least
most of what he posts is relevant and on topic. Jonah on the other hand
posts about 90% crap and spews his crap and poor writing over every
gaming group I subscribe to. Plus he's a self-confessed troll which
makes him the scum of Usenet by default.
Schrodinger
"Morgan" <nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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As far as I've seen he only posts stuff relevant to games and at the end of
the day Nostromo can always ignore him.
Briarroot
>> least most of what he posts is relevant and on topic. Jonah on the
>> other hand posts about 90% crap and spews his crap and poor writing
>> over every gaming group I subscribe to. Plus he's a self-confessed
>> troll which makes him the scum of Usenet by default.
>>
>
> As far as I've seen he only posts stuff relevant to games and at the end
> of the day Nostromo can always ignore him.
>
Nostromo can't ignore him! Like an addict who hates - yet loves - his
drug, he's *compelled* to respond to Jonah. ;-)
--
"The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule
it." - H.L. Mencken
Buster
wrote:
>Schrodinger wrote:
>>
>> "Morgan" <nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Nostromo can be a complete arse, I'm well aware of that. But at
>>> least most of what he posts is relevant and on topic. Jonah on the
>>> other hand posts about 90% crap and spews his crap and poor writing
>>> over every gaming group I subscribe to. Plus he's a self-confessed
>>> troll which makes him the scum of Usenet by default.
>>>
>>
>> As far as I've seen he only posts stuff relevant to games and at the end
>> of the day Nostromo can always ignore him.
>>
>
>Nostromo can't ignore him! Like an addict who hates - yet loves - his
>drug, he's *compelled* to respond to Jonah. ;-)
Jonser represents everything NastyHomo craves in a man. Tormented by
his aussie values which forbid him to think about penis, he lashes out
by stalking Jonser here.
Morgan
You've not been around long enough or been paying attention in that case.
Schrodinger
"Morgan" <nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just 7 or 8 years. You're right.
Morgan
So it's the "or" part then.
Jonah Falcon
Nostromo
-0500, Anno Domini:
>>Yes, US Congress & Senate is full of righteous, God-fearing, law-abiding
>>model citizens <rolls eyes>.
>
>Wasn't attacking your country dude. I agree with what you said about
>US politicians as well.
>
>Unless you agree with what he's doing, I don't understand why you'd be
>defensive about it.
The issue is ignorant idiots criticizing the laws of someone else's country
without even bothering to learn the processes involved. As far as senator
fuck-face goes, of course I don't agree with him, but I reserve the right to
play devil's advocate! :)
--
Nostromo
Tim O
They are banning video games. What more is there to learn?
Thats fucking retarded.
Rod
>Thus spake "Jonah Falcon" <jonah...@mindspring.com>, Sat, 5 Dec 2009
Obvious penis envy.
Cheers,
Rod.
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
Wouldn't Jonah have to have one for that to be true or even possible...? ;-p
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Nostromo
Nostromo
-0500, Anno Domini:
It's someone else's value system, that's all. We might not agree with it,
but there's no point in pissing & moaning if the majority of his
constituents voted for him and *keep doing so* AND he's got enough other
cronies in the Senate on his side (proactively or by default). The blame
goes to them, if anywhere. Or us in the western world for perpetuating the
broken remnants of real democracy.
Last I checked, the US also doesn't have a shortage of fundy, bible-bashing
rednecks in various parts. We also can't sell X-rated material legally in
most states, though the internet & online orders have pretty much dispensed
with that restriction. There's no story here other than the fact that Jonah
has polluted yet another week of gaming with his poorly veiled vitriol -
that's the only *really* pathetic & sad story for all of us here. Pfft.
--
Nostromo
Tim O
>It's someone else's value system, that's all. We might not agree with it,
>but there's no point in pissing & moaning if the majority of his
>constituents voted for him and *keep doing so* AND he's got enough other
>cronies in the Senate on his side (proactively or by default). The blame
>goes to them, if anywhere. Or us in the western world for perpetuating the
>broken remnants of real democracy.
>
>Last I checked, the US also doesn't have a shortage of fundy, bible-bashing
>rednecks in various parts. We also can't sell X-rated material legally in
>most states, though the internet & online orders have pretty much dispensed
>with that restriction. There's no story here other than the fact that Jonah
>has polluted yet another week of gaming with his poorly veiled vitriol -
>that's the only *really* pathetic & sad story for all of us here. Pfft.
Your dislike of Jonah doesn't make the news any better.
Any form of censorship sucks, IMO. It sounds like you've just rolled
over and accepted it, so I guess you're getting exactly what you
deserve.
Tim O
He used to get rightfully yelled at for posting console related news
items here. The recent stuff I've read has been PC related, and
therefore topical.
It appears to me this is a case of you not being able to seperate the
message from the messenger.
Sleepy
"Jonah Falcon" <jonah...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.gamestooge.com/2009/12/05/how-atkinson-holds-aussie-gamers-hostage/
>
> (sigh)
You can argue about the rights and wrongs of the Australian system if you
like but having read Mr. Atkinsons' comments I see one man who has
principles and sticks to them. He doesn't cave in because some people object
to his views and he isn't the one slinging personal attacks and name
calling. You would applaud his moral integrity *if* his views coincided with
yours.
You claim to want democracy but you pile on the personal insults to someone
who has a differing opinion! I wonder if the majority here even know what
democracy and personal values mean?
FFS - he even points out when the next election is coming and invites people
to stand against him.
He strikes me as very honest and principled but you people call him a prick
and make accusations about him having sex with prostitutes. Shame on you -
Wile E. Coyote
> You claim to want democracy but you pile on the personal insults to
> someone who has a differing opinion! I wonder if the majority here even
> know what democracy and personal values mean?
How can it be a democracy when one man can stop a bill being passed to
allow adults to buy games made for adults? That's called a dictatorship
and not a democracy. Atkinson thinking he has the right to hold a
country up to his own personal morals is what makes him a moron and not
what his personal morals are.
W Spilman
> Thus spake Tim O <timo56...@hotmail.com>, Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:11:17
> -0500, Anno Domini:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:50:25 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Tim O <timo56...@hotmail.com>, Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:44:07
>>>-0500, Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>>Yes, US Congress & Senate is full of righteous, God-fearing,
>>>>>law-abiding
>>>>>model citizens <rolls eyes>.
>>>>
>>>>Wasn't attacking your country dude. I agree with what you said about
>>>>US politicians as well.
>>>>
>>>>Unless you agree with what he's doing, I don't understand why you'd be
>>>>defensive about it.
>>>
>>>The issue is ignorant idiots criticizing the laws of someone else's
>>>country
>>>without even bothering to learn the processes involved. As far as senator
>>>fuck-face goes, of course I don't agree with him, but I reserve the right
>>>to
>>>play devil's advocate! :)
>>
>>They are banning video games. What more is there to learn?
>>Thats fucking retarded.
>
> It's someone else's value system, that's all.
Then they should live by that value system, NOT try to
impose that system on others.
WS
Jonah Falcon
"Wile E. Coyote" <coy...@ACME.invalid> wrote in message
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"having read Mr. Atkinsons' comments I see one man who has
principles and sticks to them."
So did Adolf Hitler and some Arab nations who promote female circumcision
and the death penalty for homosexuality. WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
Some value systems are plain WRONG. Period. End of story.
Schrodinger
"Sleepy" <nos...@here.com> wrote in message
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He is imposing his will on countless others with no consideration of the
consequences. Whether you believe he is good or not is entirely irrelevant.
What he is doing is undemocratic in the extreme and also illogical. Stuff
like this worries me because next, you'll get idiots like Tipper Gore in the
USA or the Nu Labour in the UK - both of whom firmly believe that they know
better than other adults about what is "good for them" - and they will point
to Australia as a beacon of hope in a cesspool of moral iniquity.
Sleepy
"Schrodinger" <n...@way.com> wrote in message
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its democratic because Mr. Atkinson was elected to his office democratically
and, as he pointed out, the people will have another opportunity in 2010 to
vote for him again or for someone else.
what hasn't been proved by any article or person on this forum, is that the
'majority' of Australians whom Mr. Atkinson represents, disagrees with his
decision. There's no evidence in all the name calling and mud slinging that
'democracy' has not been served.
And Jonahs' comparison of Mr. Atkinson to Adolf Hitler shows just how
prejudiced his thinking is on this subject.
Schrodinger
Democracy is not about imposing your moral values on others in matter such
as this. However, on this matter he is holding THE WHOLE OF AUSTRALIA to
ransom.
Therefore, he is directly affecting people who did not vote for him and have
no ability to vote him out. This is not democratic by definition as he is
not accountable to people he is affecting.
Morgan
>
> Democracy is not about imposing your moral values on others in matter such
> as this. However, on this matter he is holding THE WHOLE OF AUSTRALIA to
> ransom.
Do we actually have a reliable news source (not Jonah's jumped up blog)
that confirms this whole story about a unanimous decision being
required? It seems a completely impractical way of running a
governmental system.
Sleepy
> as this. However, on this matter he is holding THE WHOLE OF AUSTRALIA to
> ransom.
>
> Therefore, he is directly affecting people who did not vote for him and
> have no ability to vote him out. This is not democratic by definition as
> he is not accountable to people he is affecting.
You're assuming the WHOLE of Australia disagree with his views! Its my
belief that the kind of people that would want to play an ultra violent game
like AVP would actually be very much a minority. And that minority can vote
against him when he applies for reelection next year.
Morgan
>> Democracy is not about imposing your moral values on others in matter
>> such as this. However, on this matter he is holding THE WHOLE OF
>> AUSTRALIA to ransom.
>>
>> Therefore, he is directly affecting people who did not vote for him
>> and have no ability to vote him out. This is not democratic by
>> definition as he is not accountable to people he is affecting.
>
> You're assuming the WHOLE of Australia disagree with his views! Its my
> belief that the kind of people that would want to play an ultra violent
> game like AVP would actually be very much a minority.
The is a very important difference between 'Not wanting to play' and
'censoring other's from playing.'
Zank Frappa
>
> He used to get rightfully yelled at for posting console related news
> items here. The recent stuff I've read has been PC related, and
> therefore topical.
>
> It appears to me this is a case of you not being able to seperate the
> message from the messenger.
The main issue here is not whether his posts are console, PC, topic or
off topic related news, Tim.
It's the fact that he's merely (ab)using the groups to divert traffic to
his own web site, and that is *NOT* what Usenet is, was or (hopefully if
we can avoid it) will ever be about. He's a spammer, pure and simple,
regardless of everything else.
Usenet is not a link repository -- we're here to *discuss* games. If I
wanted to read articles about video games on the web I'd know where to
go without jonah's help, thank you very much.
Schrodinger
People not in his area can't vote against him. Think about it.
Nostromo
-0500, Anno Domini:
"The People always get the government they deserve", absolutely.
If I lived in South Australia, I might look out for him so I can run him
over, but alas, I'm 9-10 hrs away by car.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
That's *exactly* what his right is, as duly elected attorney general of the
state. The fact that the committee has to agree _unanimously_ for this kind
of rating system/law to be repealed or overhauled is a separate issue
entirely, something that relates back to our constitution & how we form
government. And that's not an easy thing to change...there are also good
reasons why this was put into being in the first place, given our colonial
history & ununified past. Otherwise the richer or more populated states
could gang up on the others for all sorts of legislation.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
(UTC), Anno Domini:
Amen!
--
Nostromo
Tim O
wrote:
>The main issue here is not whether his posts are console, PC, topic or
>off topic related news, Tim.
>
>It's the fact that he's merely (ab)using the groups to divert traffic to
>his own web site, and that is *NOT* what Usenet is, was or (hopefully if
>we can avoid it) will ever be about. He's a spammer, pure and simple,
>regardless of everything else.
>
>Usenet is not a link repository -- we're here to *discuss* games. If I
>wanted to read articles about video games on the web I'd know where to
>go without jonah's help, thank you very much.
I hear ya there. I can tell you I've never visited his site on my own
accord.
Nostromo
-0800, Anno Domini:
>Sleepy wrote:
>
>
>> You claim to want democracy but you pile on the personal insults to
>> someone who has a differing opinion! I wonder if the majority here even
>> know what democracy and personal values mean?
>
>How can it be a democracy when one man can stop a bill being passed to
There are many forms of democracy & our's stems directly from the British
Westminster two-tier system, along with the Attorney-Generals in each state
& one Governor General who represents the Queen nationally. We have local,
state & federal government & the entire mess is quite complex. Without
resorting to any more name-calling, suffice it to say, he is duly elected
(twice now I believe) & therefore represents the views of his constituents &
the majority in his electorate. Like it or not, it may simply be a case that
most of his supporters or otherwise in SA don't think this is such a big
issue & continue to back him based on his other politics. THAT'S *our*
democracy at work, for better or worse.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
>its democratic because Mr. Atkinson was elected to his office democratically
>and, as he pointed out, the people will have another opportunity in 2010 to
>vote for him again or for someone else.
>
>what hasn't been proved by any article or person on this forum, is that the
>'majority' of Australians whom Mr. Atkinson represents, disagrees with his
>decision. There's no evidence in all the name calling and mud slinging that
>'democracy' has not been served.
Yuppers.
>And Jonahs' comparison of Mr. Atkinson to Adolf Hitler shows just how
>prejudiced his thinking is on this subject.
Jonah only has 2 MOs: trolling or spamming his own site.
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Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
That's exactly the same as the US Governors. What's your point? :-/
--
Nostromo
Schrodinger
"Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
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You are either deliberately missing the point about this "man" preventing
THE REST OF AUSTRALIA from playing these games, or you are trolling.
Morgan
I think the point is the whole unanimous thing.
Nostromo
Domini:
>You are either deliberately missing the point about this "man" preventing
>THE REST OF AUSTRALIA from playing these games, or you are trolling.
No, you are reading through what I am saying & not hearing the utter
simplicity of it: he is duly elected by his constituents & has a
constitutional right as an attorney general to withhold his support for any
bills passed at that level & thus block any changes. As such, *our*
democratic process has been fulfilled.
The ratings systems had to have unanimous support to be put in place way
back when & it therefore needs the same to get overturned, pure & simple
(though I'm still researching some caveats & exceptions which I may post
once done). Ya'all (especially yanks) need to stop throwing around the term
'democracy like you know what it means or own the rights to its
interpretation in Aus. I think the ancient Greeks would disagree with you on
most points in any case. Have a nice day.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
And it's moot at best, because it's *our* fucking constitution & *our*
fucking laws. Anyone have anything else pertinent to say on the topic...?
Good.
--
Nostromo
Schrodinger
"Nostromo" <nos...@forme.org> wrote in message
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In the UK this couldn't happen and I would have thought you lot would at
least have taken heed of the justice system that was responsible for most of
you being there in the first place...
Morgan
Granted it's *your* constitution but that doesn't mean that other people
don't have the right to an opinion about it. To me requiring a
unanimous desiccation is counter productive to the concept of democracy
because one person can essentially dictate governmental policy and
therefore the laws being passed/not passed are not representative of the
views of the majority of the country and can in fact be the views of a
very small minority. I understand the historical reasons for this but
personally I feel that it's time your country do a bit of governmental
reform. This is not a pop at Australia, I think the UKs democratic
process also needs reform but for a different reason.
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>Granted it's *your* constitution but that doesn't mean that other people
>don't have the right to an opinion about it. To me requiring a
>unanimous desiccation is counter productive to the concept of democracy
>because one person can essentially dictate governmental policy and
>therefore the laws being passed/not passed are not representative of the
>views of the majority of the country and can in fact be the views of a
>very small minority. I understand the historical reasons for this but
>personally I feel that it's time your country do a bit of governmental
>reform. This is not a pop at Australia, I think the UKs democratic
>process also needs reform but for a different reason.
I never said I was *happy* about it, but one must abide by the laws of the
land if there is to be any kind of 'civilised' society (imo of course). As
such, none of you who are up in arms about it are affected one iota -
myself, as an Aussie & a couple others here, who have hardly complained or
even started this pissing contest here, are the only ones actually
(potentially) affected my Mr Atkinson's stranglehold of the ratings board.
Ironic, ey? ;-p
Also, this case certainly isn't indicative of how all or even most
laws/bills are passed in Aus (you just need a simple majority sitting of the
Senate for it to get passed & similar in parliament/lower house, as I've
explained elsewhere). It just happens to involve the ratings/censorship
board which is headed by the attorney generals & thus had its own rules
formed way back (technically it's not even a matter of law).
Yes, it may be time for a change, but voting is the only way to do this in a
civilised democratic nation (along with the demonstrations & name-calling
beforehand of course! ;). In order to change this system, you need enough
politicians who aren't full of themselves to recognise that unanimous rule
is counter-productive to timely change & will-of-the-people stuff & to
change the fucking rule How many times has the US changed their constitution
significantly since the last batch of amendments all those years ago...?
Aha! ;)
--
Nostromo
Morgan
> I never said I was *happy* about it, but one must abide by the laws of the
> land if there is to be any kind of 'civilised' society (imo of course). As
> such, none of you who are up in arms about it are affected one iota -
> myself, as an Aussie & a couple others here, who have hardly complained or
> even started this pissing contest here, are the only ones actually
> (potentially) affected my Mr Atkinson's stranglehold of the ratings board.
> Ironic, ey? ;-p
Fair enough apart from the isolated case like Fallout 3 where we all get
the toned down version. However I think the issue id that this is just
yet another mental out of touch politician that has got everyone's goat.
I do agree that certain people in here have gone mental about it though.
> Yes, it may be time for a change, but voting is the only way to do this in a
> civilised democratic nation (along with the demonstrations & name-calling
> beforehand of course! ;). In order to change this system, you need enough
> politicians who aren't full of themselves to recognise that unanimous rule
> is counter-productive to timely change & will-of-the-people stuff & to
> change the fucking rule How many times has the US changed their constitution
> significantly since the last batch of amendments all those years ago...?
> Aha! ;)
Good point.
maya
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Shawk
>
> Yes, it may be time for a change, but voting is the only way to do this in a
> civilised democratic nation (along with the demonstrations & name-calling
> beforehand of course! ;). In order to change this system, you need enough
> politicians who aren't full of themselves to recognise that unanimous rule
> is counter-productive to timely change & will-of-the-people stuff & to
> change the fucking rule How many times has the US changed their constitution
> significantly since the last batch of amendments all those years ago...?
> Aha! ;)
I guess that the politicians that oppose it while not in government
would quickly find this very useful when in power and nothing will
actually change (no time to debate it, more important priorities etc etc).