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Michele Lostia

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
in my intention.
This is a problem that would need a fix as soon as possible, because
the mouse control is meant to give the player greater accuracy of
movement and shot aiming, but the way things are now, the control is
just too messy to be enjoyable.

Kevin Bozman

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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Michele Lostia (mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) wrote:
: While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well


I had the same problem, until I did some poking.. go to the advanced
controls, select the mouse, then change the scale for the different
axis.. I believe it's a multiplication factor (hence scale :))..
playing with this value helped the control feel invaluably..

Chris

Chris Kintz

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:00:42 +0100, Michele Lostia
<mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:

>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.

Yup. That was the exact same thing that I thought of when applied the
v1.3D patch. There is a solution, though.

Load up the SETUP program, and go to CONTROLLER SETUP. Then select
ADVANCED SETUP from that menu. You'll see two items... "X Axis
Scaling" and "Y Axis Scaling". Select these items and slide them down
a couple notches. I have my scaling set to about 3.5 for both X and Y
and mouse sensitivity set to 0 in the main menu and that's just
perfect for me. Season to your own tastes, of course. You may have
to experiment a little.

Good luck and have fun!

-Chris


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Vanth

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:00:42 +0100, Michele Lostia
<mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:

>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.

>The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
>fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
>in my intention.
>This is a problem that would need a fix as soon as possible, because
>the mouse control is meant to give the player greater accuracy of
>movement and shot aiming, but the way things are now, the control is
>just too messy to be enjoyable.

I had this same problem. The new setup file seems to have a few quirks
to it. Run Setup and instead of adjusting the mouse sensitivity, go
to the Advanced Controller settings. You can adjust both the X and Y
axis of the mouse here.

I had to play around with those and the regular mouse sensitivity,
playtesting in between changes, but I'm back down to a controllable
level.

When I first fired up 1.3d, my mouse control was so sensitive that a
slight movement either left or right would spin me around several
times. When I checked the original mouse sensitivity setting in
Setup, it read "64.0"!!

Like I said, quirky, but it can be adjusted.

Hope this helps,

Vanth
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Ashley W. Bone

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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Michele Lostia <mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:

>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
>The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
>fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
>in my intention.

You should be able to solve this problem by adjusting the mouse
sensitivity using the setup program. The trick is that you have to
do it in two places - mouse settings and advanced controller options.
Both are under the controls menu. The first lets you set the overall
sensitivity, and the other lets you adjust the sensitivity of the x
and y axes individually. If you crank all of the settings down, you
should get an acceptable speed.

ashley


Bruce Geerdes

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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Michele Lostia <mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:
>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
>The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
>fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
>in my intention.

Try lowering the sensitivity through setup (as opposed to options).
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Michael Abbott

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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Michele Lostia wrote:
>
> While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
> calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
> Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
> The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
> fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
> in my intention.
> This is a problem that would need a fix as soon as possible, because
> the mouse control is meant to give the player greater accuracy of
> movement and shot aiming, but the way things are now, the control is
> just too messy to be enjoyable.

I had a problem something like this - after installing the patch from 1.1
to 1.3 the mouse was basically unusable, even with the sensitivity turned
right down.

However. I then ran SETUP (just in case), and it said something about
"deleting old configuration file" and now everything works properly.

I think they forgot to deal with the setup configuration in the upgrade.

Lunde

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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If you can't get the mouse to work right just reinstall the whole thing.
Don't use a patched version. I had the same problem and it went away when
I dl and installed the full sw version.

On Friday, April 26, 1996, Michele Lostia wrote...

Lorne Beaton

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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In article <3180AC...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>,

Michele Lostia <mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:
>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
>The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
>fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
>in my intention.

The same thing happened to me when I installed the patch. The solution
was to delete the duke3d.cfg file and re-create it.
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John Laird

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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In article <4lqjvb$o...@argentina.it.earthlink.net>, va...@earthlink.net
(Vanth) wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:00:42 +0100, Michele Lostia


> <mic...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
> >calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
> >Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
> >The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
> >fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
> >in my intention.

<snip>

>
> I had to play around with those and the regular mouse sensitivity,
> playtesting in between changes, but I'm back down to a controllable
> level.
>
> When I first fired up 1.3d, my mouse control was so sensitive that a
> slight movement either left or right would spin me around several
> times. When I checked the original mouse sensitivity setting in
> Setup, it read "64.0"!!
>
> Like I said, quirky, but it can be adjusted.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Vanth

I ran into the same problem. I tried to keep things clean and installed
the full Duke 1.1 archive from scratch and updated using the 1.3d patch.
I ran Setup, configured my keys, and selected keyboard-mouse control. I
launched Duke and the mouse control was screwed. The slightest movement
threw me all over the place. I brought up the in-game menu and turned the
mouse sensitivity all the way down. It had little or no effect. I quit
and fired up Setup and checked the mouse sensitivity and it was 0.0, as I
had set it in the game. Next I went to advanced mouse controls, since you
can adjust the X and Y axis sensitivity for the mouse independently now
with v1.3d. Sure enough the X and Y axis sensitivities were both at
64.0! Curiously enough, pressing the left arrow once to bring the slider
down and pressing the right arrow to bring it back up reset the value to
1.0. This is a nasty bug that unfortunately managed to make it out the
door and quite possibly was mastered into the registered version. It
threw me for a second because the global mouse sensitivity setting didn't
seem to affect the problem. After I reset the X and Y mouse
sensitivities, everything worked fine. Sorry 3DRealms, after all your
work on this project I realize how you must feel....doh!!!

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Davep

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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>This is a problem that would need a fix as soon as possible, because
>the mouse control is meant to give the player greater accuracy of
>movement and shot aiming, but the way things are now, the control is
>just too messy to be enjoyable.

According to their Web BBS if you delete the duke3d.cfg file and then
resetup the game, it will act better. I had the same problems as
everyone else and followed this procedure and now I get much better
results.

Dave


Mike

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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That is a waste of time, if the patch is successful then you have the
exact same thing as downloading the entire game. The only thing
different is the patch tries to update your old duke3d.cfg file. Just
delete it, and run setup again.

Lunde <lu...@bright.net> wrote:

>If you can't get the mouse to work right just reinstall the whole thing.
>Don't use a patched version. I had the same problem and it went away when
>I dl and installed the full sw version.

>On Friday, April 26, 1996, Michele Lostia wrote...

>> While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>> calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>> Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.
>> The problem is that, whenever I move the mouse in a slight and slow
>> fashion, it feels as if I did a quick, panicky movement which wasn't
>> in my intention.

sha...@tpom.cts.com

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Apr 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/26/96
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>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one with this problem.
It's just impossible to target anything the way it is now!! :(

Maybe a msg to the boys at 3D Realms is in order here!

MAX

Joe Siegler

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Apr 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/28/96
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Lunde <lu...@bright.net> wrote:

>If you can't get the mouse to work right just reinstall the whole thing.
>Don't use a patched version. I had the same problem and it went away when
>I dl and installed the full sw version.

A much easier way would have been to just delete your config file.


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Laurent Giraudeau

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Apr 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/29/96
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Hello,
just run setup and go to advanced mouse settings.
After a few changes, you'll have correct mouse
setting.
Mine was set at 2.0, i reduced it to 0.1,
then now it works perfectly!
I donno if it works for everybody,
but just try it .....

only my 2 cents...

cu

Laurent

Night Stalker

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Apr 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/30/96
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SH>>While I can say that the mouse sensitivity for v1.0 and v1.1 was well
SH>>calibrated, I feel that I cannot say the same for v1.3d.
SH>>Even at the lowest setting, the mouse control becomes quite tedious.

SH>Glad to hear I'm not the only one with this problem.
SH>It's just impossible to target anything the way it is now!! :(

SH>Maybe a msg to the boys at 3D Realms is in order here!

SH>MAX

All you have to do is delete your .CFG file... & run setup to create a
new one...
There is something wrong w/the patch (& the full version download too)
that messes w/the .CFG file... once you create a new one... its fixed.
Also.. you can config the X/Y settings in the "Advanced Controler Setup"
for better performance. Got this strait of the 3D Realms Web BBS Duke
message base. Works great now!

Night Stalker.......


Maciej Miasik

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Apr 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/30/96
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gn...@pop.erols.com (Mike ) wrote:

>That is a waste of time, if the patch is successful then you have the
>exact same thing as downloading the entire game. The only thing
>different is the patch tries to update your old duke3d.cfg file. Just
>delete it, and run setup again.

I deleted this file and setup the game again but the mouse is *still*
too sensitive to be acceptable. What else can I do?

Maciek

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Case

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May 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/2/96
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ch...@student.uci.agh.edu.pl (Maciej Miasik) wrote:

:gn...@pop.erols.com (Mike ) wrote:

:>That is a waste of time, if the patch is successful then you have
the
:>exact same thing as downloading the entire game. The only thing
:>different is the patch tries to update your old duke3d.cfg file.
Just
:>delete it, and run setup again.

:I deleted this file and setup the game again but the mouse is *still*
:too sensitive to be acceptable. What else can I do?

:Maciek

I got my mouse to work, here's my CASE.CFG (don't rename it to
default.cfg until you can verify that it works for you).

Good Luck,

-Case


Case

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May 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/2/96
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begin 644 case.cfg
<uuencoded_portion_removed>
J=71I;VYS(#T@,34-"E)U;DUO9&4@/2`Q#0I#<F]S<VAA:7)S(#T@,0T*
`
end

Jeff Harris

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May 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/5/96
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ch...@student.uci.agh.edu.pl (Maciej Miasik) wrote:

>gn...@pop.erols.com (Mike ) wrote:

>>That is a waste of time, if the patch is successful then you have the
>>exact same thing as downloading the entire game. The only thing
>>different is the patch tries to update your old duke3d.cfg file. Just
>>delete it, and run setup again.

>I deleted this file and setup the game again but the mouse is *still*
>too sensitive to be acceptable. What else can I do?

>Maciek

>---------------------------------------------------


>Maciej Miasik >chaos works< tel:+48-12-364972

I had this problem too. Go into mouse setup, advanced options, and
reset the sensitivity to around 1. When I upgraded, somehow it set
itself to 16! This is odd, as you can only go as high as 4 through
setup.

Jeff Harris
CHUC...@IX.NETCOM.COM


Guy Cecil

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May 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/6/96
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I seem to have the same problem with my joystick sensitivity, but it
isn't as easy to solve as mouse sensitivity. Does anybody have any
ideas?

WHO IS ME?

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May 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/7/96
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Guy Cecil <g...@corsned.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Just run setup and setup your mouse or joystick sensitivity!
Works fine with me!


Martin Kozicki

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May 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/10/96
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Guy Cecil wrote:
>
> I seem to have the same problem with my joystick sensitivity, but it
> isn't as easy to solve as mouse sensitivity. Does anybody have any
> ideas?

Well, you can delete your old config file for Duke and then run setup
again. That fixes the problems, according to Siegler.
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Editor, Titania Magazine
<MKoz...@titania-pub.com>

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