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Mafia: any way to change view perspective?

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Eep²

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Aug 29, 2002, 7:22:21 PM8/29/02
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Ugh, another game that forces 3rd-person view--it's SO unimmersive! Unfortunately, Mafia doesn't seem to be moddable like Max Payne is. :/

magnulus

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Aug 30, 2002, 8:14:22 AM8/30/02
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"Eep˛" <eepN...@tnlc.com> wrote in message
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> Ugh, another game that forces 3rd-person view--it's SO unimmersive!
Unfortunately, Mafia doesn't seem to be moddable like Max Payne is. :/
>

Take a chill pill, Eep. Not every game has to have first- person views.

I may have to check out Mafia eventually. It got a good review from IGN.
The screenshots look great, and the period cars look neat too. I read the
game has bump mapping in it, it would be great if somebody finally supported
it in a decent game.

One Punch Mickey

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Aug 30, 2002, 11:20:19 AM8/30/02
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From the FAQ on http://www.mafia-game.com:

<snip>
Will the game offer an opportunity to switch into the first person
view (switch to first person view)
Many people ask for this facility and a game with this view looks
quite nice, so we are contemplating this option. If we do decide to
use it however, we might end up with a situation where the character's
hands and objects held in them (weapons) cannot be seen.

</snip>

Obviously they decided not to, however since it's using the Hidden &
Dangerous II engine I'd be very surprised if there wasn't some console
command what would do it.


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Eep²

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Aug 30, 2002, 2:27:10 PM8/30/02
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magnulus wrote:

> "Eep˛" <eepN...@tnlc.com> wrote in message
> news:3D6EACCC...@tnlc.com...
> > Ugh, another game that forces 3rd-person view--it's SO unimmersive!
> Unfortunately, Mafia doesn't seem to be moddable like Max Payne is. :/
> >
>
> Take a chill pill, Eep. Not every game has to have first- person views.

Eh, when it's an action game like Mafia (like Max Payne), it should at least be optional, especially considering the game already has SOME 1st-person views (in-car--though not actually IN the car but on the bumper and windshield front; sniper mode, and when the character is close to a wall the body will fade out and the camera moves into the character body). There's no reason a full-fledged 1st-person view couldn't've been implemented--especially since it's damn annoying trying to aim with the camera moving around so much in 3rd-person view anyway...

> I may have to check out Mafia eventually. It got a good review from IGN.
> The screenshots look great, and the period cars look neat too. I read the
> game has bump mapping in it, it would be great if somebody finally supported
> it in a decent game.

Hmm, I haven't seen any bumpmapping, but then I don't know if the GeForce 3 Ti 200 even supports it--and there's no option to disable it in Mafia's settings either.

Eep²

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Aug 30, 2002, 2:32:46 PM8/30/02
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Assuming a console even exists and is enabled in the released game--so far no cheats, as such, have surfaced.

And there are no registry settings (apart from what setup.exe--3D card and graphics settings--stores) or config text files to tweak--they're all most likely stored in the numerous *.dta files which are, as of yet, unopenable. Illusion Softworks is being VERY anal about their file formats...

One Punch Mickey wrote:

> From the FAQ on http://www.mafia-game.com:
>

> Will the game offer an opportunity to switch into the first person
> view (switch to first person view)
> Many people ask for this facility and a game with this view looks
> quite nice, so we are contemplating this option. If we do decide to
> use it however, we might end up with a situation where the character's
> hands and objects held in them (weapons) cannot be seen.

> Obviously they decided not to, however since it's using the Hidden &


> Dangerous II engine I'd be very surprised if there wasn't some console
> command what would do it.
>

smr

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Aug 30, 2002, 5:17:45 PM8/30/02
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In article <3D6FB91D...@tnlc.com>, eepN...@tnlc.com says...

The scruffy half-beards and acne on some of the facial skins are bump-
mapped. You seeing those at all?

smr

magnulus

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Sep 1, 2002, 9:43:49 AM9/1/02
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Hey, Eep, I was wondering, can you move back the camera at all? I know
in the PS2 version of GTA3 this can be done (and I assume the PC version as
well). In the screenshots I have seen, the camera has been too close to the
character.

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Eep²

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Sep 1, 2002, 3:17:36 PM9/1/02
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Only in vehicles can the camera be moved at different z-axis levels, but the character's body disappears when out of vehicles and backed up against something.

Susan

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Sep 5, 2002, 3:27:33 PM9/5/02
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Eep˛ <eepN...@tnlc.com> wrote:

>Eh, when it's an action game like Mafia (like Max Payne), it should at least be optional, especially considering the game already has SOME 1st-person views...

Options? I haven't seen one good example of this type of action game that
demonstrates that the Developer or the Die-Hard Gamer that like Mafia or Max
Payne, etc. know what the word [option] means or give a rat's ass about it.

*Susan*

Eep²

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Sep 5, 2002, 4:40:33 PM9/5/02
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Uh...huh? Lots of this type of action games have options and whose developers AND gamers know about them. Hell, Max Payne alone is QUITE modifiable and I even created a 1st-person view mod for it! http://tnlc.com/eep/maxpayne.html <shrug>
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