What percent of your net monthly income do you spend on games?
Kory
all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have
been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment
value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other
form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where
I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where
the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a
percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just
over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the
hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net
monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing
rent is about 22%.
Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your
salary is, just the percentage.
Schrodinger
"Kory" <kor...@none.com> wrote in message
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Not sure, but it might be more relevant to include all the costs in running
a PC for gaming?
For example, I pay �25 per month for my ISP as others have used traffic
shaping which affected Steam and other online games; I probably spend about
�150 - �200 per year in upgrades - then there's the games at perhaps an
average of �30 per month.
All in, that's getting on for �1,000 pa at least.
Elmer Fudd
> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your
> salary is, just the percentage.
>
I buy almost every game that comes out for PC and PS3 just so I have a
valid reason to bitch about them and I estimate that is a about
0.000001% of my income per month.
Kory
>
>"Kory" <kor...@none.com> wrote in message
>news:081af55t73hgjjged...@4ax.com...
>>I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and
>> all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have
>> been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment
>> value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other
>> form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where
>> I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where
>> the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
>>
>> So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a
>> percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just
>> over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the
>> hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
>>
>> So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net
>> monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing
>> rent is about 22%.
>>
>> Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your
>> salary is, just the percentage.
>>
>>
>
>Not sure, but it might be more relevant to include all the costs in running
>a PC for gaming?
Not more relevant to the question as asked :)
I was specifically asking for games purchased expressed as a
percentage of net income. I'm not looking for the total spent per
month, I'm looking for what percentage of a persons net salary is
spent on games.
To know that, I really don't need to know how much someone makes or
what the total they spend on games, but the question does require the
respondant to do a small amount of math (average monthly amount spent
on games divided by total after-tax income).
I was excluding things like ISP cost because for most its used for
non-gaming purposes as well as gaming -- most people would have a PC
Remember the goal here is not to figure the average total cost of
gaming, just the question stated in the title.. Although we can
certainly open up the thread to a little off-topic straying fun once
we get some responses in :)
The rationale to asking the question is nothing too elaborate or
intrusive, just to get a feel for the relative expenditure on game
titles of folks in this newsgroup (which I think is an interesting
sample group, because I think most folks who still use this newsgroup
will have been involved in PC gaming for quite some time, since usenet
is long past its mainstream popularity peak and newcomers to the net
dont use it).
Kory
wrote:
Check your estimations.
In order to get to .000001 of your income, you would have to earn over
$60,000,000 USD per month, after taxes, if you bought one PS3 title
per month at $60 USD.
Elmer Fudd
> In order to get to .000001 of your income, you would have to earn over
> $60,000,000 USD per month, after taxes, if you bought one PS3 title
> per month at $60 USD.
Correct.
Kory
wrote:
>Kory wrote:
Excellent, your credibility rating going forward has been secured.
Andrew
wrote:
>I buy almost every game that comes out for PC and PS3 just so I have a
>valid reason to bitch about them and I estimate that is a about
>0.000001% of my income per month.
Wow, there is more money in hunting Wabbits than I thought!
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To be honest I try and not think about how much I spend a month. I buy a
LOT of games. But I never pay full price. I get my games from three
places. Steam (their new weekly and weekend sales are hard to pass up).
GoGamer (48 hour sales are great) and Amazon, where I always buy from
one of their "Amazon Merchants" I get some killer deals this way.
I'm not great at math, but I spend around $50-80 a month on PC games. I
don't have a next gen console. This is my only hobby really, so that's
how I rationalize the cost.
JLC
Kory
Heh.. it seems nobody understood the question.
Kory
>>Just curious what your breakdiown looks like.. not asking what your
>>salary is, just the percentage.
>
>Zero
Pirating little cunts aren't eligible for this survey, since they
aren't saving anything. They are just guaranteeing that PC games will
be permanently supplanted by console games, so they will end up paying
much more per game in the end.
Jellybean
> To be honest I try and not think about how much I spend a month. I buy a
> LOT of games. But I never pay full price. I get my games from three
> places. Steam (their new weekly and weekend sales are hard to pass up).
> GoGamer (48 hour sales are great)
Impulse Driven, GamersGate and Direct2Drive also have weekend sales and
GamerGate has mid-week sales sometimes too. Those download purchase
sites belong on your scouting list just as much as Steam. In fact they
are better than Steam because they don't require a crap front end client
like Steam does. GamersGate has issues with slow downloads for N.A. but
that is because the server is in Europe. They told me they are adding a
new U.S. server in early December so will solve that issue.
Jellybean
> Zero
Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due
to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
Nostromo
-0800, Anno Domini:
You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all)
& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
--
Nostromo
Kory
If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't
understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a
sample group.
CJM
>
> Heh.. it seems nobody understood the question.
Who granted you the god-given right to a straight answer?
I'm sure just about everybody understood the question, but absolutely nobody
has any compulsion to answer in the way that you would prefer. And given
your attitude elsewhere in this thread, I'd be surprised if they will be
queuing up to answer any more of your questions in *any* way at all.
Nostromo
Domini:
It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp
collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should we
share our personal financial details with you ffs?
I'd call you an arrogant cunt, but cunts are generally useful. But I guess
you wouldn't know that.
--
Nostromo
Kory
>Thus spake Kory <kor...@none.com>, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:17:27 -0500, Anno
>Domini:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:32:56 +1100, Nostromo <nos...@forme.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Jellybean <je...@example.invalid>, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:50:50
>>>-0800, Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>Legion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Zero
>>>>
>>>>Yea, and little shits like you cost people like me plenty of aggro due
>>>>to copy protection. Time for a lynching mob. ;)
>>>
>>>You should both get a room (or find a hood to have it out in once & for all)
>>>& just leave us big old copyright revolutionary cunts out of it! ;-p
>>>
>>>Do we count online game subs in this pointless exercise?
>>
>>If you're the type that assumes its pointless just because you don't
>>understand it, you fall way below the IQ range I was looking for in a
>>sample group.
>
>It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp
>collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should we
>share our personal financial details with you ffs?
I actually specifically asked you to NOT share personal financial
details when I said I don't need to know how much you make. I was
asking for a simple percentage that could have been done by anyone
with a 4th grade math education and at the same time would have
precluded the need to give out any of the aspect of financial details
which are remotely personal, such as total salary.
However you seem to have achieved a grade of Epic Fail, not only in
math but in reading comprehension. They have special schools for
tards like yourself. Thanks for playing douchebag.
Kory
<cjmu...@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
>
>"Kory" <kor...@none.com> wrote in message
>news:sb2cf51qma9hqnchs...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Heh.. it seems nobody understood the question.
>
>Who granted you the god-given right to a straight answer?
God does not moderate this group. It is self-moderated by a group of
morons who can neither read nor do math.
Kory
> LOL donk.
>You calling folks names is lible to get one punched out in the real
>world.
In the real world I would have knocked you clear across the room
before you finished that sentence, twat blood.
Mark Morrison
No thery won't, because they're pirates - d'uh.
Mark Morrison
Kory is odd - a troll, but one for forgot to set up a follow-up score
group ?
Or just a tit ?
A mystery we may never solve.
CJM
>>Who granted you the god-given right to a straight answer?
>
> God does not moderate this group. It is self-moderated by a group of
> morons who can neither read nor do math.
It's unmoderated,... oh and it's 'maths' or 'mathematics'. (It's an
English-language NG).
Les Steel
"Kory" <kor...@none.com> wrote in message
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What's 4th grade? I'm not American so have no idea what your comment means.
I assume by the language you use you attend the equivalent to a low ofsted
comprehensive school?
Kory
> Twat blood......lol. Now I know your a teenybopper.
>Oh, I am retired military and I hope we get a chance to meet so
>you can have a shot at "knocking me clear across the room".
No worries, I once beat an active marines ass to the point he would
need to invest in some dental work to continue with solid food, so an
old has been like yourself would be cake.
Shawk
> I was just sitting here, thinking about the crappy economic times, and
> all the money I've spent on games over the years. Some of which have
> been big disappointments, yet others which provided an entertainment
> value which, if measured in hours, would have surely beaten any other
> form of entertainment out there. There have been a few games where
> I've literally gotten several hundred hours of fun out of them, where
> the total cost would come out to pennies per hour.
>
> So I started thinking about my current *AVERAGE* monthly cost as a
> percentage of my current net income (not necessarily historical, just
> over the last 24 months or so). Just of the games itself, not the
> hobby at large (i.e. hardware, internet connection etc).
>
> So the figure I came up with is approximately 1% of my total net
> monthly income. By contrast my car payment is about 7% and my housing
> rent is about 22%.
>
> salary is, just the percentage.
On average 0.8% on games. Not every month though... over a year its
probably half that.
As a hobby you're going to find it difficult to beat that in terms of
value (as you say I can get many, many hours out of a number of my games).
And yet I'm still made to feel guilty by the wife if a new game arrives
from play.com.... ;)
Shawk
I'll play. Its not a bad question. As a percentage of our wage gaming
is probably a very small fraction and yet we do get hours of enjoyment
from this hobby. Bang-for-buck its probably one of the best hobbies to
have.
Note - this doesn't include Spalls of course who must spend a larger
percentage of his income on gaming than the rest of us put together ;)
JLC
>
> What's 4th grade? I'm not American so have no idea what your comment
> means. I assume by the language you use you attend the equivalent to a
> low ofsted comprehensive school?
>
>
This is so sad. I saw that there was over 20 posts today and thought
maybe something interesting happened, only to find two flame wars going.
Bummer. I guess that's about all this group has left to offer.
JLC
Kory
wrote:
Thanks.. finally a reasonable response. And your other post indicated
you were the only (at least responding, so far) reader that understood
the crux of the question, which is that for most of us, gaming is a
very small (relatively speaking) expense. And the cost of a PC game
has not gone up significantly in a very long time.
Tim O
<cjmu...@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
>It's unmoderated,... oh and it's 'maths' or 'mathematics'. (It's an
>English-language NG).
Yay, lets do some maths then go eat some foods.
Static Void
>
> I'll play. Its not a bad question. As a percentage of our wage
> gaming is probably a very small fraction and yet we do get hours of
> enjoyment from this hobby. Bang-for-buck its probably one of the best
> hobbies to have.
Lol you say you'll play but then you don't really give us an answer :^)
I agree that it's a good bang for the buck but not as much as it used to
be in my case, a lot of the games I bought in the last two years have
been barely touched - not because of game quality but mostly due to time
constraints.
> Note - this doesn't include Spalls of course who must spend a larger
> percentage of his income on gaming than the rest of us put together ;)
I would think Mr Rob beats Spalls in that department from everything I
read around here but yea, those two must have huge stock shares in
several game companies.
Nostromo
Domini:
>>>It is pointless & useless unless there's a point & a use for your stamp
>>>collecting exercise. Which you haven't shared with anyone, so why should
>>>we
>>>share our personal financial details with you ffs?
>>
>> I actually specifically asked you to NOT share personal financial
>> details when I said I don't need to know how much you make. I was
>> asking for a simple percentage that could have been done by anyone
>> with a 4th grade math education and at the same time would have
>> precluded the need to give out any of the aspect of financial details
>> which are remotely personal, such as total salary.
>>
>> However you seem to have achieved a grade of Epic Fail, not only in
>> math but in reading comprehension. They have special schools for
>> tards like yourself. Thanks for playing douchebag.
>
>What's 4th grade? I'm not American so have no idea what your comment means.
>I assume by the language you use you attend the equivalent to a low ofsted
>comprehensive school?
The turdlet failed it I imagine. He can't seem to comprehend that what
percentage of your income you spend where IS giving up your personal
financial details. It would almost be funny he wasn't a piss poor troll.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>Kory is odd - a troll, but one for forgot to set up a follow-up score
>group ?
>
>Or just a tit ?
>
>
>A mystery we may never solve.
Somebody needs to explain to the turdlet that it's not very good trolling if
you're the one making the most posts roflmfao! >8^D
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Domini:
Wow, what a statistician! Only 1999 more responses needed until you have
sample population large enough to draw any reasonable conclusion from, at
least for one of the more common distributions you would use for this
pointless exercise...smegbrain. :-p
For example, if you tell us that you spend 50% of your disposable income on
male prostitutes, what does that really tell us about the rest of? That
either you earn shit money or to stay away from you, just like this thread.
--
Nostromo
Nostromo
Anno Domini:
>Kory is odd - a troll, but one for forgot to set up a follow-up score
>group ?
>
>Or just a tit ?
>
>
>A mystery we may never solve.
Somebody needs to explain to the turdlet that it's not very good trolling if
Kory
The professors who teach stats at the School for the Hopelessly
Retarded are apparently preaching the requirement for a sample size of
exactly 2000 for validity of any given survey these days, huh? Well I
guess they could tell you kids whatever they want and you'd never know
the difference.
>For example, if you tell us that you spend 50% of your disposable income on
>male prostitutes, what does that really tell us about the rest of? That
>either you earn shit money or to stay away from you, just like this thread.
So THAT's why you keep coming back to this thread, you're hoping to
find male prostitutes? Well I suspect there are probably better
methods, but I'm sure if you really want to tickle Legion's ballsack
with your moustache, he probably won't mind, and probably won't even
charge you since he has no use for money, he pirates all his games and
slips out of the restaurant without paying.
NostroHomo and Lesion ... Butt Buddies Couple of The Year,
c.s.i.p.g.a 2009
Kory
wrote:
>Shawk wrote:
>>
>> I'll play. Its not a bad question. As a percentage of our wage
>> gaming is probably a very small fraction and yet we do get hours of
>> enjoyment from this hobby. Bang-for-buck its probably one of the best
>> hobbies to have.
>
>Lol you say you'll play but then you don't really give us an answer :^)
Actually he did, just in a different post in the thread.
Kory
NostroHomo is so easily amused.. Those fairy boys are giggly and
emotional aren't they? Guess he's not feeling himself after Lesion
wore his bunghole out.
Mark Morrison
<snip>
>
>No worries, I once beat an active marines ass to the point he would
>need to invest in some dental work to continue with solid food, so an
>old has been like yourself would be cake.
He had teeth in his ass ?
KCB
"Shawk" <sh...@gmx.com.3guesses> wrote in message
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What about Mr. Rob. He seems to have played every PC game known to man.
Kory
wrote:
He did after I knocked them out and he fell back on them.
Unknown
It seems that you've covered it.
Nostromo
Domini:
>>For example, if you tell us that you spend 50% of your disposable income on
>>male prostitutes, what does that really tell us about the rest of? That
>>either you earn shit money or to stay away from you, just like this thread.
>
>It seems that you've covered it.
Yuppers. <thread marked ignore with extreme prejudice>
--
Nostromo
Tim O
I believe it. There has never been someone named Kory that isn't a
total badass. Look at Corey Haim and Corey Feldman.
They're even less badass because C is lower in the alphabet than K.
I bet you can beat meat like nobodies business too!
Kory
wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:29:12 -0500, Kory <kor...@none.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:55:06 +0000, Mark Morrison <bl...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:25:49 -0500, Kory <kor...@none.com> wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>No worries, I once beat an active marines ass to the point he would
>>>>need to invest in some dental work to continue with solid food, so an
>>>>old has been like yourself would be cake.
>>>
>>>He had teeth in his ass ?
>>
>>He did after I knocked them out and he fell back on them.
>
>I believe it. There has never been someone named Kory that isn't a
>total badass. Look at Corey Haim and Corey Feldman.
>They're even less badass because C is lower in the alphabet than K.
You know they say schizophrenics make random associations that would
have never come to anyone else's mind. So how did your brain get
defective? Mommy drop you on your head while she was blowing the
mailmain?
Kory
Looks like NostroHomo found the male prostitute he came looking for.
Tim O
>You know they say schizophrenics make random associations that would
>have never come to anyone else's mind. So how did your brain get
>defective? Mommy drop you on your head while she was blowing the
>mailmain?
What a rappier wit. Nearly makes up for your pathological lying!
Now go spend your entire paycheck on COD4 so you can beat up more
imaginary soldiers.
Kory
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:05:16 -0500, Kory <kor...@none.com> wrote:
If it makes you feel better about yourself to believe I'm lying, then
be my guest. Insecure, brain damaged little douchbags like yourself
usually end up getting a gun and opening fire in a public place to
vent their psychosis, so I'm going to try not to provoke that. If you
saw me in person you wouldn't doubt my claim for a minute; its quite
convenient for you to disbelieve anything outside the realm of your
pathetically narrow existing beliefs.
Unknown
This's an action games group, and there's plenty interesting
discussion going on aside from Kory's OT bullshit thread -- it's all
for amusement, after all. You're a regular participant, so you have
to admit that in this case you might best be judged as indulging in
overblown hyperbole.
Kory
>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:30:35 -0800, JLC <jlc...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>Les Steel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What's 4th grade? I'm not American so have no idea what your comment
>>> means. I assume by the language you use you attend the equivalent to a
>>> low ofsted comprehensive school?
>>>
>>>
>>This is so sad. I saw that there was over 20 posts today and thought
>>maybe something interesting happened, only to find two flame wars going.
>>Bummer. I guess that's about all this group has left to offer.
>>
>
>This's an action games group, and there's plenty interesting
>discussion going on aside from Kory's OT bullshit thread
I think if you look at the thread history, and are even remotely
observant, you'll conclude that I tried my best to reel the thread
back on topic (the topic of which I think was reasonably relevant to
this NG) even though, for whatever reason (ADHD, poor reading skills,
whatever), lots of folks made time in their busy schedules to chime in
with something irrelevant to the original question.. so at some point
you just say fuckit, if they are determined to let it degrade into a
pissing contest, then might as well piss on them a bit.
Unknown
As I completed the simple thought:
" -- it's all for amusement, after all."
You seem to forget this, and take things too seriously.
Just IMO, of course.
Kory
I would have just stopped participating if I didn't find giving it
back to be amusing :)
Tim O
>If it makes you feel better about yourself to believe I'm lying, then
>be my guest. Insecure, brain damaged little douchbags like yourself
>usually end up getting a gun and opening fire in a public place to
>vent their psychosis, so I'm going to try not to provoke that. If you
>saw me in person you wouldn't doubt my claim for a minute; its quite
>convenient for you to disbelieve anything outside the realm of your
>pathetically narrow existing beliefs.
You're on here asking retarded questions typically found on the
shithead Gamespot forums and you're saying I'm a whack job?
Whats next, who's your favorite boss? Why aren't there more black
people in games?
Kory
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:44:04 -0500, Kory <kor...@none.com> wrote:
More random associations I see. Forget to refil your med
prescription, psycho?
Martin Marcincak
like mame and mess better value for money. Games these days have poor
quality.
Kory
MAME and ROMs are great -- highly underrated.
Wile E. Coyote
> Kory is odd - a troll, but one for forgot to set up a follow-up score
> group ?
>
> Or just a tit ?
>
>
> A mystery we may never solve.
1 vote for tit.
Wile E. Coyote
> Grow up..your either an old fart or more likely a teeneybopper who
> dosen't know crap.
> Big brave little girl...you gonna be out front of that "lynching
> Mob"?
> Gonna carry a big stick? or maybe come with a gun??? Oh,ooo.
Yes, morons are legion.
Wile E. Coyote
> Thanks.. finally a reasonable response. And your other post indicated
> you were the only (at least responding, so far) reader that understood
> the crux of the question, which is that for most of us, gaming is a
> very small (relatively speaking) expense. And the cost of a PC game
> has not gone up significantly in a very long time.
Final survey...99% of respondents said, "fuck off".
Kory
And the other 1% displayed signs of intelligence.
Kristopher Macias
Vince
> "CJM" wrote:
>>It's unmoderated,... oh and it's 'maths' or 'mathematics'. (It's an
>>English-language NG).
> Yay, lets do some maths then go eat some foods.
You might argue that CJM is being arrogant by asserting that the British
'Maths' is more correct than your 'Math'.
But your point is even less valid. Not all plurals have to be suffixed by
the letter 's' as you've pointed out with 'food', but many do (as I'm sure
you must realize).
I tend to think of 'Maths' as being a contraction of 'Mathematics' but of
course ideally it should contain an apostrophe.
I wonder; do you have a subject named 'Physic' in your schools.
Shawk
You do realise that 'realise' is spelt with an 's' in the UK?
;)
Vince
I'm pretty sure that the OED would use a 'z'.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=65816&dict=CALD
states "UK usually realise" which seems a bit wooly.
JAB
Nope, in the UK it's normally spelt realise ...
Andrew
wrote:
>I'm pretty sure that the OED would use a 'z'.
>
>http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=65816&dict=CALD
>states "UK usually realise" which seems a bit wooly.
And that site pretends to be a UK English dictionary? What a waste of
space.
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wrote:
Yes, but I opted for Geometrys.