DOOM - Question # 24534232 :)
D.A. Svendsen
Recently, a rumour's been floating around that it in fact requires 4Mb.
Is it 2 or 4? (Please, let it be two! I'm a poor man, and memory upgrades
are so $$$$$expensive$$$$$ :)
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Dean Svendsen : ins...@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
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Shawn Green
Sorry, we're at 4MB.
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Jay Wilbur
> In article <1993Jul22.0...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
> ins...@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (D.A. Svendsen) writes:
> |> Some time ago, the specs for DOOM quoted a memory requirement of 2Mb RAM.
> |> Recently, a rumour's been floating around that it in fact requires 4Mb.
> |>
> |> Is it 2 or 4? (Please, let it be two! I'm a poor man, and memory
upgrades
> |> are so $$$$$expensive$$$$$ :)
>
> Sorry, we're at 4MB.
>
We are sensitive to the rising cost of memory since the resin factory in Japan
blew up. We will make every effort to get DOOM (the release version) to work
in 2MB, but right now it's calling for 4MB.
(Shawn, you were not here when we discussed this.)
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Ken Steele
[discussion of DOOM memory requirements -> /dev/null/my.friend.bill]
>
> We are sensitive to the rising cost of memory since the resin factory in Japan
> blew up. We will make every effort to get DOOM (the release version) to work
> in 2MB, but right now it's calling for 4MB.
>
> (Shawn, you were not here when we discussed this.)
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> Jay Wilbur (j...@idsoftware.com) Id Software
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How seriously should we take this? Would you run out out now
and buy some $90 SIMMs or just hunker down for 3 or 4 weeks.
And my pet desire for DOOM is a monochrome switch so that the
palette is suitable for a notebook.
Ken Steele stee...@conrad.appstate.edu
Appalachian State University stee...@appstate.bitnet
Jay Wilbur
> In <1993Jul22.1...@nntpxfer.psi.com> ja...@idsoftware.com writes:
>
> [discussion of DOOM memory requirements -> /dev/null/my.friend.bill]
>
> >
> > We are sensitive to the rising cost of memory since the resin factory in
Japan
> > blew up. We will make every effort to get DOOM (the release version) to
work
> > in 2MB, but right now it's calling for 4MB.
> >
> > (Shawn, you were not here when we discussed this.)
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> > Jay Wilbur (j...@idsoftware.com) Id Software
> > Send questions about Id software to he...@idsoftware.com
> > (NeXTmail OK).
>
> How seriously should we take this? Would you run out out now
> and buy some $90 SIMMs or just hunker down for 3 or 4 weeks.
We went to buy some 8 meg simms for the NeXT and found they had doubled in
price since last week and showed no signs of going down. I think it was CNN
that said the resin factory that blew supplied 1/3 resin use in the world's
memory chips.
> And my pet desire for DOOM is a monochrome switch so that the
> palette is suitable for a notebook.
Don't hold your breath. <g>
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Andy - Patrizio
>We went to buy some 8 meg simms for the NeXT and found they had doubled in
>price since last week and showed no signs of going down. I think it was CNN
>that said the resin factory that blew supplied 1/3 resin use in the world's
>memory chips.
Can you believe these guys? Memory on the shelf doubles in price because
of a fire in Japan. Damn criminal is what it is.
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Tom Sorensen
>>> We are sensitive to the rising cost of memory since the resin factory in
>>> Japan blew up. We will make every effort to get DOOM (the release version)
>>
>> How seriously should we take this? Would you run out out now
>> and buy some $90 SIMMs or just hunker down for 3 or 4 weeks.
>We went to buy some 8 meg simms for the NeXT and found they had doubled in
>price since last week and showed no signs of going down. I think it was CNN
>that said the resin factory that blew supplied 1/3 resin use in the world's
>memory chips.
The factory that blew up produced 40-50% of the epoxy resin used to coat DRAM
and other chips. This has caused a panic in the SIMM market, doubling prices
on 1M SIMMs and increasing the price on 4M SIMMs by about 50%. However this
panic isn't likely to last more than a couple months- there are MANY other
supplies for resin, most of which were running below capacity (circa 60%).
They'll be able to make up for the loss.
Right now the rise in prices is due to A) price gouging, B) lack of resin to
build more chips in the short term (I suspect many manufacturers just ran
out of resin- the Sumitsu (sp?) plant may've been their only source).
Tom Sorensen
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Ryan Grant
>Can you believe these guys? Memory on the shelf doubles in price because
>of a fire in Japan. Damn criminal is what it is.
What the fire? That's called arson.
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Robert W. Igo
Memory Cost & Resin Andy - Patr...@shell.po (515)
> Can you believe these guys? Memory on the shelf doubles in price because
> of a fire in Japan. Damn criminal is what it is.
Remember the gas "shortage" in the 70's? Same thing, wasn't it?
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>Ken Steele writes
>> In <1993Jul22.1...@nntpxfer.psi.com> ja...@idsoftware.com writes:
>>
>> And my pet desire for DOOM is a monochrome switch so that the
>> palette is suitable for a notebook.
>
>Don't hold your breath. <g>
>
Great! Now maybe I can justify the cost of a color laptop to my wife!
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Andy Burstein
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>And my pet desire for DOOM is a monochrome switch so that the
>palette is suitable for a notebook.
>
Can you imagine someone playing this game on a notebook on an airplane?
They'd probably call in a swat team before you made it to the runway.
I wonder if they'll let you keep your notebook in your cell 8-)
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Ron Asbestos Dippold
>In article <22noan$i...@lester.appstate.edu> STEE...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (Ken Steele) writes:
>>And my pet desire for DOOM is a monochrome switch so that the
>>palette is suitable for a notebook.
>Can you imagine someone playing this game on a notebook on an airplane?
>They'd probably call in a swat team before you made it to the runway.
>I wonder if they'll let you keep your notebook in your cell 8-)
With one of those parallel port SoundBlasters, no less! The sound
of automatic fire cuts through the cabin...
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Damian Haslam
>Shawn Green writes
>> In article <1993Jul22.0...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
>> ins...@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (D.A. Svendsen) writes:
>> |> Is it 2 or 4? (Please, let it be two! I'm a poor man, and memory
Drg! no! buy some more mem, it'll be worth it-trust me!
>>
>> Sorry, we're at 4MB.
B
yeah! alright!!!!
>>
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>We are sensitive to the rising cost of memory since the resin factory in Japan
>blew up. We will make every effort to get DOOM (the release version) to work
>in 2MB, but right now it's calling for 4MB.
arg! are the users of "decent" computers going to be forced to suffer with less-than-perfect games (like civ) because there are still ppl out thre with XT's (or machines with similar power)
>(Shawn, you were not here when we discussed this.)
please keep it at 4! please please please! the worl needs good games that won't run on a 386!
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Mark Shanks
>>In article <22noan$i...@lester.appstate.edu> STEE...@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (Ken Steele) writes:
>>Can you imagine someone playing this game on a notebook on an airplane?
>
>I can easily imagine it, as I hope to be doing so myself! I have a 6+ hours
>plane trip in a few months, and expect to have both a notebook and DOOM
>by then. "Can I get you anything sir?" "Yes! More ammo!!!!" BuHahahahahaha...
>
>>They'd probably call in a swat team before you made it to the runway.
>
>Good point... I'll wait 'till we're airborne before letting the action
>begin! I do hope there will be a "no sound" option... Jay? Shawn?
What will probably happen is that the massive amounts of EMI generated
by everyone playing DOOM on their laptops will terminally screw up the
plane's flight control system, sending all aboard to their (wait for it)
....doom. (Just kiddin, folks, don't get antsy :) :) )
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