Beware of DreamCatcher's Painkiller
NightSky 421
news:h31g70p2i63v0li6l...@4ax.com...
> Hostile copy protection bullshirt.
>
> I love the way they suggest "reinstall drivers for your CD/DVD".
>
LOL, and the thing is, I've never ever had to install drivers specific
to my optical drives since the days of DOS or running in MS-DOS mode in
Windows 95 or 98!
John Lewis
Return the game to your store and see the salespeople double over
with laughter when you ask for a refund.
If the copy-protection is really that screwed up on Painkiller, just
wait a few days for a solution on www.gamecopyworld.com, or an
install-patch from the developers. Have patience. Go play something
else.
Painkiller's copy protection is nothing on the <<continuing>> pain and
agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2. No solutions on
Gamecopyworld either.
John Lewis
Ries
"John Lewis" <john...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:40782082...@news.verizon.net...
> Painkiller's copy protection is nothing on the <<continuing>> pain and
>
> agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2. No solutions on
> Gamecopyworld either.
you're already played the game then?
Ries
i own a yacht
> If the copy-protection is really that screwed up on Painkiller, just
> wait a few days for a solution on www.gamecopyworld.com, or an
> install-patch from the developers. Have patience. Go play something
> else.
>
> Painkiller's copy protection is nothing on the <<continuing>> pain and
>
> agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2.
i thought you were against no-cd cracks, hypocrite? i guess not when
advocating them gives you a chance to give valve another kick eh? you
flip-flop more than a fish out of water.
> No solutions on Gamecopyworld either.
how could there be when the game isn't even out yet? oh, right, you're
stupid.
richcz3
have it on the floor. It was in the overhead bins out of eyesight. I had to
ask them twice for it. One guy simply said we should have recieved it
yesterday. The other guy was looking right at it a couple of boxes.
I followed his eyes and asked if those were simply display boxes? No
answer, I reached and pulled it down and shook it. I then told him I wanted
to buy it. He then asked me if I had taken it down? ????
Strange behavior.
I can only assume/guess that they already knew of the problems and had
placed their inventory out of eyesight until a fix is issued. I came back
and thats when I read of copy protection issues. It runs fine on my system.
richcz3
Destroy
Cry slide show for so long, I forgot what fast frame rate is like. This
game has BLAZING fast frame rate!
John Lewis
>John Lewis <john...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> If the copy-protection is really that screwed up on Painkiller, just
>> wait a few days for a solution on www.gamecopyworld.com, or an
>> install-patch from the developers. Have patience. Go play something
>> else.
>>
>> Painkiller's copy protection is nothing on the <<continuing>> pain and
>>
>> agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2.
>
>i thought you were against no-cd cracks, hypocrite?
I am indeed , if the user of the crack is not also the legitimate
purchaser of the game, or has sold/passed-on the original
disks to a 3rd party. However, if there is a legitimate physical
copy-protection issue, then a crack that can help avoid the
problem until the developer gets around to a fix (if ever)
seems to me perfectly appropriate, given that these days
it is very seldom that a refund will be given on a returned
opened game. The original purchaser deserves the value
for his hard-earned money. A full refund is far preferable to
the crack, but most retailers will not allow it, unless there
is a manufacturer's official recall. Now do you understand ?
( In the case of Painkiller, if there is a systematic install problem,
the developers will probably eventually get around to shipping
updated CDs to legitimate customers. Make sure you keep
your receipts and game package. )
> i guess not when
>advocating them gives you a chance to give valve another kick eh?
Why not.... ? HL2 is over six months late and counting.
Now supposed to be out June 30. A few more ancient clips
from E3 have been released this week as crumbs for the masses.
No playable demo yet in sight. Game will probably be delayed again
to update the engine to support PS3.0 for the nVidia NV40, a la
Far Cry. V1.1 ..... :-) :-) Kinda amusing after all the time-wasting
public ranting from Valve about nVidia and PS2.0.
> you
>flip-flop more than a fish out of water.
>
>> No solutions on Gamecopyworld either.
>
>how could there be when the game isn't even out yet? oh, right, you're
>stupid.
Do you know anything about Steam... read the Steam FAQs ?
Understand how the Steam authentication works ?
The game does not have to be out to appreciate the issues,
asuming that Valve is stating the truth in the Steam FAQs/Forums.
Steam is specifically set up to thwart pirates; read and understand
just how..... However, that should will make the legitimate
purchasers' lives miserable too.
If you wish to reply, please refrain from the personal insults.
John Lewis
Highlandish
richcz3 <rc...@excite.removethis.com> Quoth The Raven:
quite often the boss makes them put the games on the shelves, but if it
isn't bought soon they can buy it, so perhaps they were trying to hide them
in plain sight for them selves
--
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
Take out the CUSSIN to reply to me
i own a yacht
> If you wish to reply, please refrain from the personal insults.
should i reply with something sweet and charming like this, then?
"Sorry if your machine is not quite up to it, and the game befuddles your
tiny mind."
nice one, dopey.
NightSky 421
> with laughter when you ask for a refund.
>
> If the copy-protection is really that screwed up on Painkiller, just
> wait a few days for a solution on www.gamecopyworld.com, or an
> install-patch from the developers. Have patience. Go play something
> else.
>
I haven't bought Painkiller, at least not yet, but it just seemed odd
that someone should have to download updated drivers for their optical
drives since it has never been an issue for me in all the years I've
used Windows. I know about Firmware updates for optical drives, but
I've never done that either!
> Painkiller's copy protection is nothing on the <<continuing>> pain and
>
> agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2. No solutions on
> Gamecopyworld either.
>
Steam pretty much killed any chance of me buying Condition Zero and now
Half Life 2. I let Valve know that too. I don't expect one e-mail to
make the difference, but I felt it was important to let them know of my
intention not to buy their games so long as the legitimate customer is
being punished in such a harsh way with that sort of copy protection
scheme.
John Lewis
Thanks :-) :-)
Touche.......... !!!!
Nice to see that you can lighten up too............
John Lewis
John Lewis
>John what is so special about the protection Steam & HL2, I might be a bit
>dumb as I don't play on line games but what is Steam..?
>
See www.steampowered.com.
But do read the FAQ very carefully. Valve is a little coy in their
overview and choose the good things to say in the overview text.
If you buy HL2, even if you only intend to single-play,
you WILL get to know Steam very fast. I hope that you have
a broadband connection. Patches are only available on-line
via Steam download directly to an authenticated machine.
For dial-up, no ability to download a patch at work or at a
friend with broadband and copy it to a CD in the traditional
way. And as for the authentication mess --
just don't try to play HL2 single-player on your laptop on
your next plane journey, at least after it has been patched
once. Straight out of the box MAY work without on-line
authentication, but the Steam FAQ has a quite deliberate
information gap on the subject of SP authentication.
Valve is over-the-top determined to stop single-player
pirates in order to maximise their revenue; bad news for
legitimate customers, I suspect. And it WILL backfire on
Valve if those customers get really pi**ed off.
John Lewis
>
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Cobra95
> Just bought it and installed and plays fine. Man, after playing the Far
> Cry slide show for so long, I forgot what fast frame rate is like. This
> game has BLAZING fast frame rate!
I bought the game too. I can't get it to work off of a Samsung SD-612
or an LG 8080B. I'm trying the Pioneer A106U next. If that fails, it
goes back to the store on Monday.
This is strictly a copy-protection issue. The trouble comes from the
fact that these schemes are slapped on the product after the
developers have sweated blood to get everything just right. I feel
for Dreamcatcher. They're stuck in the same stupidity as legitimate
consumers: distributors determined to stop something that can't be
stopped at the expense of the good will and sanity of everyone except
the experienced pirates.
John Lewis
<night...@no-mail-please.com> wrote:
>"John Lewis" <john...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:40782082...@news.verizon.net...
>>
>> Return the game to your store and see the salespeople double over
>> with laughter when you ask for a refund.
>>
>> If the copy-protection is really that screwed up on Painkiller, just
>> wait a few days for a solution on www.gamecopyworld.com, or an
>> install-patch from the developers. Have patience. Go play something
>> else.
>>
>
>
>I haven't bought Painkiller, at least not yet, but it just seemed odd
>that someone should have to download updated drivers for their optical
>drives since it has never been an issue for me in all the years I've
>used Windows.
There are no special drivers. MS universal Atapi driver.
> I know about Firmware updates for optical drives,
That what the writers really mean.
>but
>I've never done that either!
>
DON'T. Load the wrong code and you will permanently cripple
your CD/DVD drive.
Return Painkiller to your retailer in the middle of a busy Saturday
for a refund, demand to see the manager if necessary
and be prepared to be polite but raise your voice so that the
whole shop can hear you. Explain the issue with copy-protection
that is widespread and suggest that the game be pulled from
shelves. Should be fun for others even if you don't get your
money back or credit against future purchases.....
John Lewis
FunkyDevil
> Steam pretty much killed any chance of me buying Condition Zero and now
> Half Life 2. I let Valve know that too. I don't expect one e-mail to
> make the difference, but I felt it was important to let them know of my
> intention not to buy their games so long as the legitimate customer is
> being punished in such a harsh way with that sort of copy protection
> scheme.
Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
It is there to help you to be a more responsible consumer.
PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE DRM , use it responsibly ,
understand it's rules , and obey them.
DO NOT SHARE your drm files , DO NOT COPY OR DISABLE the drm
in your files.
Be a responsible consumer and always respect copyrights.
And remember , burning CDs is a "privilege" NOT a right.
What's really cool about DRM ( digital rights management ) is the
spiritual feeling you get inside your soul , knowing that your
legitimate copy has
" legitimate protection ".
You do not OWN the money you spend , you only own the right to spend
it.
DRM , It's for you, it's for me , it's for all of us.
The protection is there not only to protect the games and music , but
to protect you and your rights also.
DRM... , if your software or CD doesn't have it , why does it even
exist ?
Andrew MacPherson
(John Lewis) wrote:
> See www.steampowered.com.
While not steam-related as such, I thought
http://steampowered.com/status/survey.html makes interesting viewing...
well, it does to me anyway :-)
I'm not sure whether it's a good cross section of the gaming population
though.
Andrew McP
John Lewis
wrote:
>"NightSky 421" <night...@no-mail-please.com> wrote in message news:<107h90l...@corp.supernews.com>...
>> Steam pretty much killed any chance of me buying Condition Zero and now
>> Half Life 2. I let Valve know that too. I don't expect one e-mail to
>> make the difference, but I felt it was important to let them know of my
>> intention not to buy their games so long as the legitimate customer is
>> being punished in such a harsh way with that sort of copy protection
>> scheme.
>
> Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
>is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
>
> It is there to help you to be a more responsible consumer.
No, sorry.
It is there solely to thwart thieves. ( And certain poorly-conceived
implementations like Steam will fortunately cause huge grief
for the implementers.)
Your statement is an arrogant insult to honest people.
It implies that everybody is dishonest and DRM is the only way to
force honesty. . Those of us who never pirate software or music or
DVDs and believe in paying the salaries of those who produce
entertainment are being discriminated against by having to put up with
the "inconveniences" of DRM, like copy-protected CDs or DVDs that
don't read in some drives.... thanks so much..........
>PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE DRM , use it responsibly ,
>understand it's rules , and obey them.
>
> DO NOT SHARE your drm files , DO NOT COPY OR DISABLE the drm
>in your files.
>Be a responsible consumer and always respect copyrights.
>
You are SO arrogant and condescending..............
> And remember , burning CDs is a "privilege" NOT a right.
>
Huh? I can't have the RIGHT to burn a DVD or CD of a home
movie ? Which legal class have you been attending ?
Hosted by Stalin ?
>What's really cool about DRM ( digital rights management ) is the
>spiritual feeling you get inside your soul ,
DRM gives me zero spritual feeling, in fact the opposite....
> knowing that your
>legitimate copy has
> " legitimate protection ".
>
No it doesn't... keys can be stolen.. what tree do you live in ?
And when they are stolen, the "legitimate owner" has no recourse.
If the stolen key is in use, he is denied access to the game
he has paid good money for.... and please don't preach back
about 'protecting your key'...........
>
>You do not OWN the money you spend , you only own the right to spend
>it.
..on real-estate property, which I can OWN at least as long as I live,
unless the government nationalises or condemns it........ or I can't
pay the property tax.
>
>DRM , It's for you, it's for me , it's for all of us.
>The protection is there not only to protect the games and music , but
>to protect you and your rights also.
Really ? As an <honest> purchaser, please show me how it protects
my rights any better than having no DRM at all............
.
>
>DRM... , if your software or CD doesn't have it , why does it even
>exist ?
.. by "it", you mean DRM, of course ?
Oh, by the way... in software, video and music DRM is seen as a
challenge to be thwarted by those of suitably sharp and devious
minds, just as Everest needs to be climbed.
John Lewis
Highlandish
NightSky 421 <night...@no-mail-please.com> Quoth The Raven:
> I haven't bought Painkiller, at least not yet, but it just seemed odd
> that someone should have to download updated drivers for their optical
> drives since it has never been an issue for me in all the years I've
> used Windows. I know about Firmware updates for optical drives, but
> I've never done that either!
you will want to get the flash updates when you buy a DVD player for your
machine. as soon as you discover that your DVD is region coded like mine
was.
--
Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once
Highlandish
FunkyDevil <qs8r...@sneakemail.com> Quoth The Raven:
> "NightSky 421" <night...@no-mail-please.com> wrote in message
> news:<107h90l...@corp.supernews.com>...
>> Steam pretty much killed any chance of me buying Condition Zero and
>> now Half Life 2. I let Valve know that too. I don't expect one
>> e-mail to make the difference, but I felt it was important to let
>> them know of my intention not to buy their games so long as the
>> legitimate customer is being punished in such a harsh way with that
>> sort of copy protection scheme.
>
> Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
> is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
>
LOL, where did you find this gem of a statement? or did you make it up, you
seem to have upset a few people with it.
Destroy
>>Cry slide show for so long, I forgot what fast frame rate is like. This
>>game has BLAZING fast frame rate!
>
>
>
> I bought the game too. I can't get it to work off of a Samsung SD-612
> or an LG 8080B. I'm trying the Pioneer A106U next. If that fails, it
> goes back to the store on Monday.
What happens exactly when you mean 'can't get it to work'?
Nick Vargish
> What a Utter Wanker, must be a Brain Washed Yank..
What a jerk, must be some humorless Brit, who takes himself far too
seriously to recognize satire.
> DRM causes more problems that its worth, brick walls are meant to be
> broken..
YHBT.
Nick
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Xocyll
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
>In news:31fff59e.0404...@posting.google.com,
>FunkyDevil <qs8r...@sneakemail.com> Quoth The Raven:
>> "NightSky 421" <night...@no-mail-please.com> wrote in message
>> news:<107h90l...@corp.supernews.com>...
>>> Steam pretty much killed any chance of me buying Condition Zero and
>>> now Half Life 2. I let Valve know that too. I don't expect one
>>> e-mail to make the difference, but I felt it was important to let
>>> them know of my intention not to buy their games so long as the
>>> legitimate customer is being punished in such a harsh way with that
>>> sort of copy protection scheme.
>>
>> Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
>> is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
>>
>
>LOL, where did you find this gem of a statement? or did you make it up, you
>seem to have upset a few people with it.
Personally I thought he was being humorous.
Maybe it was too deadpan though and people thought it was serious.
Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
CaptJinks
...
>>> Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
>>> is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
>>>
>>
>>LOL, where did you find this gem of a statement? or did you make it up, you
>>seem to have upset a few people with it.
>
>Personally I thought he was being humorous.
>
>Maybe it was too deadpan though and people thought it was serious.
I agree. It took me a few sentences but by the end it struck me as a parody
of Jack Valenti defending the indefensible in unctuous terms.
--
I feel more like I do now than I did when I came in.
John Lewis
<ckreska...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>In news:107h90l...@corp.supernews.com,
>NightSky 421 <night...@no-mail-please.com> Quoth The Raven:
>> I haven't bought Painkiller, at least not yet, but it just seemed odd
>> that someone should have to download updated drivers for their optical
>> drives since it has never been an issue for me in all the years I've
>> used Windows. I know about Firmware updates for optical drives, but
>> I've never done that either!
>
>you will want to get the flash updates when you buy a DVD player for your
>machine. as soon as you discover that your DVD is region coded like mine
>was.
That is not new info. Region coding has been present in computer
DVD-drives (with a few exceptions) for the past couple of years.
Remember, it only applies to playing DVDs. There is no such thing
as region-coding for PC games, atlhough different-language,
minimal-gore etc wersions may be distributed in different countries
for language and legal reasons.
John Lewis
Cobra95
It means exactly this:
Samsung SD-612: Cannot read Disc 3 *at all*. End of story.
LG 8080B: Reads Disc 3 OK (slow), but hangs forever when attempting
to launch the game.
Pioneer A106U: Reads Disc 3 fine, but the game launch exits with an
error immediately. Something like "Could not initialize application
properly."
And that's that. So far, Painkiller is anything but. It's a $40
pain, with nothing to show for it.
Xocyll
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>Xocyll <Xoc...@kingston.net> wrote:
For some reason as I read it I had this odd image of it being read by
John Cleese playing the part of a Government minister.
Or Sir Humphrey Appleby.
NightSky 421
news:31fff59e.0404...@posting.google.com...
>
> Please understand that DRM ( digital rights management )
> is not your enemy ,it is your friend.
>
> It is there to help you to be a more responsible consumer.
> PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE DRM , use it responsibly ,
> understand it's rules , and obey them.
>
> DO NOT SHARE your drm files , DO NOT COPY OR DISABLE the drm
> in your files.
> Be a responsible consumer and always respect copyrights.
>
> And remember , burning CDs is a "privilege" NOT a right.
>
> What's really cool about DRM ( digital rights management ) is the
> spiritual feeling you get inside your soul , knowing that your
> legitimate copy has
> " legitimate protection ".
>
>
> You do not OWN the money you spend , you only own the right to spend
> it.
>
> DRM , It's for you, it's for me , it's for all of us.
> The protection is there not only to protect the games and music , but
> to protect you and your rights also.
>
> DRM... , if your software or CD doesn't have it , why does it even
> exist ?
I should clarify that when I said I won't be buying their games, I did
not mean to imply that I would be pirating them. Not at all. I will
simply avoid those games completely in any capacity.
As far as Digital Rights Management goes, I'm much more of an advocate
of Fair Rights Use. If the movie and music industry wants piracy to be
a thing of the past, they will need to make massive cuts to CD and DVD
prices, respectively. I don't see why they shouldn't anyway when music
artists get such a small percentage of the money you pay when you buy
their CD.
Cobra95
OK. I have fixed the problem, thanks to an outfit who calls itself
Deviance. A fixed exe for Painkiller is now available at
gamecopyworld.com. It works like a charm, and the troublesome 3rd CD
isn't even necessary while playing. As others have reported, this is
an excellent game. It's blazingly fast and looks great. Now I'm
glad I bought it. Perhaps in the future, I'll wait until such fixes
are available before buying games. Protection schemes are going too
far.
John Lewis
Wait on the sidelines when HL2 is released. You will witness
many copy-protection-related fireworks of quite a different nature
than just complaints about on-disk protection.. Painkiller's woes
are just party-poppers (or should I say party-poopers...) compared
to what is coming...
John Lewis
Walter Mitty
when in news:40782082...@news.verizon.net he conjectured that:
> agony Steam will give purchasers of HL2. No solutions on
> Gamecopyworld either.
How many times do we have to spank you in this NG for talking out of your
ass John?
You have't played HL2 so STFU!
Andreas Baus
> Personally I thought he was being humorous.
> Maybe it was too deadpan though and people thought it was serious.
You see, the scariest part is that there's no way to be *sure* that he
wasn't serious ...
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an...@studcs.uni-sb.de (Andreas Baus)
redTed
> many copy-protection-related fireworks of quite a different nature
> than just complaints about on-disk protection.. Painkiller's woes
> are just party-poppers (or should I say party-poopers...) compared
> to what is coming...
>
Sorry, John. But I'm going to have to save a couple of your
anti-Valve/Steam..Id posts and throw them back in your face when those 2
games are released to rapturous applause. You're vendetta seems to be
spiralling a little out of control, m8.
Your Daddy
I am always nervous about using No-CD patches or fixed exe's because I
have heard that sometimes they contain CD-key stealers and/or other
malware. Is there any way to verify that a No-CD patch or fixed exe
is "legit" (i.e. it does not contain a CD-key stealer or other
malware)? Obviously you can scan it for known viruses before using
it, but beyond that, is there anything else you can do, or are you
just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice that it is not going
to steal your CD key or install some backdoor/trojan on your machine?
Alexander Mars
>Date: 4/13/2004 11:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>I am always nervous about using No-CD patches or fixed exe's because I
>have heard that sometimes they contain CD-key stealers and/or other
>malware. Is there any way to verify that a No-CD patch or fixed exe
>is "legit" (i.e. it does not contain a CD-key stealer or other
>malware)? Obviously you can scan it for known viruses before using
>it, but beyond that, is there anything else you can do, or are you
>just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice that it is not going
>to steal your CD key or install some backdoor/trojan on your machine?
>
I use them all the time because I hate swapping disks around, never had a
problem. I suggest you stop watching Fox News and stop participating in the
culture of cowardice that seems to be gripping the nation and making people
afraid of the stupidest things. Trust me, no one gives a fuck about your
computer and no one is trying to hack it.
-Well, God was my co-pilot....but we crashed into a mountain and I had to eat
Him.
www.atar.com/alexmars (yet another useless web site)
Xocyll
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
>Xocyll <Xoc...@kingston.net> wrote:
>> Personally I thought he was being humorous.
>
>> Maybe it was too deadpan though and people thought it was serious.
>
>You see, the scariest part is that there's no way to be *sure* that he
>wasn't serious ...
Well except for the RIAA, Microsoft and similar types I have trouble
believing anyone could seriously believe what was posted.
Certainly not anyone who has any business posting in a games discussion
group.
It didn't seem, er, "frothing madman" enough in it's prose for me to
believe it was meant to be serious.
Highlandish
Alexander Mars <alex...@aol.comspamnerf> Quoth The Raven:
>> From: esp_s...@yahoo.com (Your Daddy)
>> Date: 4/13/2004 11:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>
>> I am always nervous about using No-CD patches or fixed exe's because
>> I have heard that sometimes they contain CD-key stealers and/or other
>> malware. Is there any way to verify that a No-CD patch or fixed exe
>> is "legit" (i.e. it does not contain a CD-key stealer or other
>> malware)? Obviously you can scan it for known viruses before using
>> it, but beyond that, is there anything else you can do, or are you
>> just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice that it is not going
>> to steal your CD key or install some backdoor/trojan on your machine?
>>
>
> I use them all the time because I hate swapping disks around, never
> had a problem. I suggest you stop watching Fox News and stop
> participating in the culture of cowardice that seems to be gripping
> the nation and making people afraid of the stupidest things. Trust
> me, no one gives a fuck about your computer and no one is trying to
> hack it.
not necessarily true, the email mass mailer viruses can include backdoor
passes, anyone with a port scanner can exploit that backdoor to see if they
can set you up for their next DOS attack at yahoo. they may not want your
files or passwords. you should always use AV and firewalls when online
because of this.
--
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Highlandish
Your Daddy <esp_s...@yahoo.com> Quoth The Raven:
>
> I am always nervous about using No-CD patches or fixed exe's because I
> have heard that sometimes they contain CD-key stealers and/or other
> malware. Is there any way to verify that a No-CD patch or fixed exe
> is "legit" (i.e. it does not contain a CD-key stealer or other
> malware)? Obviously you can scan it for known viruses before using
> it, but beyond that, is there anything else you can do, or are you
> just crossing your fingers and rolling the dice that it is not going
> to steal your CD key or install some backdoor/trojan on your machine?
if you get it from gamecopyworld you can mostly be sure its clean. but don't
go anywhere else. I don't even go near astalavista anymore, that search site
is clean, but the links it sends you to install porn diallers and backdoors
and spyware all the time.