BETHESDA: Marketing.. (ahem!)
Christopher Bolin
for over a week now on the web and NO ONE local to me has even heard
the title...
I've asked 3 different clerks at 2 different Egghead stores (you know,
that obscure software retailer), one Software ETC. and a Babbages and
none had even heard of the title and had no clue when it would be
shipped/in stock.
I really enjoyed the demo. Too bad.
Edward Thommes
Electronic Boutique has it, and a few other places, I don't know which.
Naturally I couldn't find it here in lovely Kingston, Ontario, but
wouldn't you know it, before Christmas I just happened to find myself
across the border in a little place called Watertown...and wouldn't you
know it, they have a mall and the mall has an Electronic Boutique.
But yeah, I don't know why they pulled that limited release silliness.
Pretty annoying.
-Ed
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Tim L.
January 9th. I had a similar problem finding Cybermage (awesome awesome,
best 3-D game of the year!!!). Called everywhere looking for a copy,
took me a week to find one at a little hole in the wall shop, none of the
big boys in town had it. Anyhow, good luck finding it, it's a great game :)
-Tim
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Christopher Bolin (cbo...@teleport.com) wrote:
: Well people have been boasting, raving about Terminator: Future Shock
Don Nalezyty
Don from Bethesda here! I may not be a marketing guy, but I can tell you
that Future Shock is only in limited release right now. The Offical
release date is January 9th.
You may ask why only limited release? Well the truth of the matter is
that most retailers couldn't deal with a product being released so close
to Christmas. They needed time to get everything organized before the
game could actually hit the shelves.
Only three days to go!
In article <4bsp25$e...@maureen.teleport.com> Christopher Bolin,
cbo...@teleport.com writes:
>I've asked 3 different clerks at 2 different Egghead stores (you know,
>that obscure software retailer), one Software ETC. and a Babbages and
>none had even heard of the title and had no clue when it would be
>shipped/in stock.
Thanks,
Don Nalezyty
SGA
Bethesda Softworks
The Bishop of Battle
Don Nalezyty <dnal...@mail.bethsoft.com> wrote:
>Hi there!
>
>Don from Bethesda here! I may not be a marketing guy, but I can tell you
>that Future Shock is only in limited release right now. The Offical
>release date is January 9th.
>
>You may ask why only limited release? Well the truth of the matter is
>that most retailers couldn't deal with a product being released so close
>to Christmas. They needed time to get everything organized before the
>game could actually hit the shelves.
This is so much of an outright LIE, that it is an embaressment to Betheseda
and the gaming community in general. Software Ect, and Babbages don't have
any problems putting product on the shelves the same day that it is released
and the individual stores never know when a game will come in - they get them
via FedEx straight from the different manufacturers.
>
>Only three days to go!
>
>In article <4bsp25$e...@maureen.teleport.com> Christopher Bolin,
>cbo...@teleport.com writes:
>>I've asked 3 different clerks at 2 different Egghead stores (you know,
>>that obscure software retailer), one Software ETC. and a Babbages and
>>none had even heard of the title and had no clue when it would be
>>shipped/in stock.
>
>Thanks,
>Don Nalezyty
>SGA
>Bethesda Softworks
Next time - why don't you try telling us the truth? We might just be
mature enough to handle it.
(And I suspect the truth is that Betheseda made some deal with the few
distributors who have the game now...they paid extra to get it ahead of
time).
The Bishop of Battle
bis...@primenet.com
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Brandon Fisher
Yeah, I really don't understand this either. What do stores
need to "handle" or "get organized?" They get it from their
distribution center and stick it up there. That's it. Gabriel Knight 2
came out on the 21st and some stores didn't get til the 22nd or 23rd.
And EB and Babbage's didn't seem to have any trouble stocking the 2 or 3
copies each store seemed to have. And that's all they really got around
here - 2 to 3 copies a store.
I'm not sure what the deal is here. I don't see what anyone
really had to gain by making this an exclusive to those two mall stores
when noone was promoting it anyway.
Then again, after reading the posts on the game in this group, I
went out and paid the high prices at EB since that's the only place I
could find it. I suppose next week it will be at some ridiculous price
at Best Buy...
des...@wolfenet.com
>Hi there!
>Don from Bethesda here! I may not be a marketing guy, but I can tell you
>that Future Shock is only in limited release right now. The Offical
>release date is January 9th.
>You may ask why only limited release? Well the truth of the matter is
>that most retailers couldn't deal with a product being released so close
>to Christmas. They needed time to get everything organized before the
>game could actually hit the shelves.
>Only three days to go!
>In article <4bsp25$e...@maureen.teleport.com> Christopher Bolin,
>cbo...@teleport.com writes:
>>I've asked 3 different clerks at 2 different Egghead stores (you know,
>>that obscure software retailer), one Software ETC. and a Babbages and
>>none had even heard of the title and had no clue when it would be
>>shipped/in stock.
>Thanks,
>Don Nalezyty
>SGA
>Bethesda Softworks
well here it is the 9th and no one still has heard of TFS. Is there
anywhere in the U.S. where i can buy it?
Hunter
>well here it is the 9th and still no one has heard of TFS. is there
>anywhere in the U.S. where i can buy this game?
Try a Waldensoftware or Electronics Boutique. These have them in my
area (Ohio).
Hunter
"Et cetera is my worst enemy." - Faith No More
wo...@ohana.com
>For some reason it was only available at Electronic Boutique until
>January 9th. I had a similar problem finding Cybermage (awesome awesome,
>best 3-D game of the year!!!). Called everywhere looking for a copy,
>took me a week to find one at a little hole in the wall shop, none of the
>big boys in town had it. Anyhow, good luck finding it, it's a great game :)
Hmm...but not as "great' as Cybermage eh??
]WolF[
wo...@ohana.com
>Hi there!
>Don from Bethesda here! I may not be a marketing guy, but I can tell you
>that Future Shock is only in limited release right now. The Offical
>release date is January 9th.
>You may ask why only limited release? Well the truth of the matter is
>that most retailers couldn't deal with a product being released so close
>to Christmas. They needed time to get everything organized before the
>game could actually hit the shelves.
>Only three days to go!
Well, I wish you guys luck in this. You've done a damned good job on this game!
(Go ahead, pat yourselves on your backs, you deserve it) Please say you'll do
as good if not better with Daggerfall.
]WolF[
whino
>Hi there!
>Don from Bethesda here! I may not be a marketing guy, but I can tell you
>that Future Shock is only in limited release right now. The Offical
>release date is January 9th.
>You may ask why only limited release? Well the truth of the matter is
>that most retailers couldn't deal with a product being released so close
>to Christmas. They needed time to get everything organized before the
>game could actually hit the shelves.
>Only three days to go!
>In article <4bsp25$e...@maureen.teleport.com> Christopher Bolin,
>cbo...@teleport.com writes:
>>I've asked 3 different clerks at 2 different Egghead stores (you know,
>>that obscure software retailer), one Software ETC. and a Babbages and
>>none had even heard of the title and had no clue when it would be
>>shipped/in stock.
>Thanks,
>Don Nalezyty
>SGA
>Bethesda Softworks
well here it is the 9th and still no one has heard of TFS. is there
whino
>whino wrote:
>>well here it is the 9th and still no one has heard of TFS. is there
>>anywhere in the U.S. where i can buy this game?
>Try a Waldensoftware or Electronics Boutique. These have them in my
>area (Ohio).
>Hunter
>"Et cetera is my worst enemy." - Faith No More
Yes I found TFS at Waldensoftware. U.S. mail sucks. Many thanks to
Hunter.
Brandon Fisher
Don Nalezyty
Don from Bethesda again.
In response to my post regaurding Terminator: Future Shock,
The Bishop of Battle, bis...@primenet.com writes:
>This is so much of an outright LIE, that it is an embaressment to Betheseda
>and the gaming community in general. Software Ect, and Babbages don't have
>any problems putting product on the shelves the same day that it is released
>and the individual stores never know when a game will come in - they get them
>via FedEx straight from the different manufacturers.
>
>Next time - why don't you try telling us the truth? We might just be
>mature enough to handle it.
>
>(And I suspect the truth is that Betheseda made some deal with the few
>distributors who have the game now...they paid extra to get it ahead of
>time).
>
>
>The Bishop of Battle
>bis...@primenet.com
I'm sorry if my post upset anyone, I only want to keep you informed.
It is true that some stores do not have trouble putting games on the
shelves within a few days, or even on the same day that they recieve
titles. That's why some stores had the game and others did not. There
are few things which cause problems.
First problem is shelf space. All the stores are swamped with all of
the titles rushed out to make the Christmas sales. This leaves little or
no space for our titles. The good thing is that many of the games which
where rushed out for Christmas will be removed from the shelves and
possibly returned. This gives us the opportunity to get our games on
shelves.
The another problem is that while some stores may get games on the
shelves almost immediatly, they have their own schedules to mantain and
contracts with various publishers/distributors to put certain games on
the shelves on specific dates. This is especially true for the Holiday
season, when the majority of game sales occur. I'll be quite frank in
saying that this is a big one we missed the boat on. We couldn't commit
to a shipping date far enough in advance (two to four months for most
stores,) so we missed out on shelf space even though we managed to have
the title in time for Christmas.
The last problem is a much larger one and basically what I mentioned
in the previous post. The majority of stores do not get their games via
FedEx but rather through their own distribution centers. Meaning we
ship our games to one location, and they take the responsibility from
that point and figure out what games go to what stores. Unfortunately,
most need any where from two to three weeks to get the games to all the
stores so they can hit the shelves on the same day through out the chain.
Bearing this in mind, it was decided to hold back distribution on any
chain which hadn't okayed immediate delivery until, Jan 9th when the game
could hit the shelves every where at the same time.
All that said, I do sincerely apologize, if it seems I've mislead
you, I gave the simple answer as opposed to the long drawn out one, which
really explained things.
One last comment, if you still don't see the game in stores, this is
really beyond our control. ; ^) Blame mother nature! The east coast
got hit with a lot of snow. We had about four feet all told here at the
office. (Which also happens to be where manufacturing is as well!)
We're honestly doing our best to get the best games to you as soon as
possible.
Mark Krischer
>Hi there!
>
>Don from Bethesda again.
>
>In response to my post regaurding Terminator: Future Shock,
>
> The Bishop of Battle, bis...@primenet.com writes:
>
>>This is so much of an outright LIE, that it is an embaressment to Betheseda
>>and the gaming community in general. Software Ect, and Babbages don't have
>>any problems putting product on the shelves the same day that it is released
>>and the individual stores never know when a game will come in - they get them
>>via FedEx straight from the different manufacturers.
>>
>>Next time - why don't you try telling us the truth? We might just be
>>mature enough to handle it.
mature enough, maybe. intelligent enough? you wouldn't know the truth if it
hit you over the head unless it's what you want to hear. get a clue!
>>(And I suspect the truth is that Betheseda made some deal with the few
>>distributors who have the game now...they paid extra to get it ahead of
>>time).
>>
>>
>>The Bishop of Battle
>>bis...@primenet.com
>
> I'm sorry if my post upset anyone, I only want to keep you informed.
>It is true that some stores do not have trouble putting games on the
>shelves within a few days, or even on the same day that they recieve
>titles. That's why some stores had the game and others did not. There
>are few things which cause problems.
[a very complete and polite response deleted]
i just wanted to say that i was pretty impressed with the politeness and
thoroughness of that response in the face of such an obnoxious, argumentative,
libellous accusation.
either that was a computer generated response, or you get paid for politeness!
either way, i'm impressed.
looking forward to Daggerfall
(foaming at the mouth, really),
mark