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15 fps on Quake and Cyrix 6x86 - Any other 6x86 scores?!?

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KROMKAMP ANDY

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Jul 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/3/96
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get 15 fps using TIMEREFRESH on Quake with a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ at the first
level beginning spot. This is with a Stingray 64 video card. Any other P150+
owners out there gettign similar?

PS: I know it a dismal score compared to a pentium, but I want to see if I
have a below average 6x86 system.

Andy K.


ZO...@ursus.bke.hu

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Jul 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/3/96
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In article <Dty5p...@ecf.toronto.edu>
6x86-120, noname trio64

360x480 9.12fps
640x480 7.65
800x600 5.84
1024x768 4.01
512x384 9.7 fps.
These results are comperable to p5-100. The 6x86 is a good processor, but
pentium optimized fpu code its Achiles heel, like win95 for p6.

David Lam

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Jul 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/4/96
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kro...@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) wrote:

> get 15 fps using TIMEREFRESH on Quake with a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ at the first
>level beginning spot. This is with a Stingray 64 video card. Any other P150+
>owners out there gettign similar?

>PS: I know it a dismal score compared to a pentium, but I want to see if I
>have a below average 6x86 system.
>
>Andy K.

GO TO:
http://www.cam.org/~agena/quake.html
to check out a listing of scores.


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David Lam (dav...@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Melbourne,Australia
Compiler/Editor of 3D-Bench Benchmarks at http://www.dfw.net/~sdw/index.html


Sidath Jayawardena

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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KROMKAMP ANDY wrote:
>
> get 15 fps using TIMEREFRESH on Quake with a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ at the first
> level beginning spot. This is with a Stingray 64 video card. Any other P150+
> owners out there gettign similar?
>
> PS: I know it a dismal score compared to a pentium, but I want to see if I
> have a below average 6x86 system.
>
> Andy K.

It's because, compared to Intel's, Cyrix's FPU is, shall we say,
underperforming. Quake apparently depends on the FPU and thus any
anaemic FPU using CPU = bad performance.

JEB in Vegas

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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ZO...@URSUS.BKE.HU wrote:
>
> In article <Dty5p...@ecf.toronto.edu>
> kro...@ecf.toronto.edu (KROMKAMP ANDY) writes:
>
> > get 15 fps using TIMEREFRESH on Quake with a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ at the first
> >level beginning spot. This is with a Stingray 64 video card. Any other P150+
> >owners out there gettign similar?
> >
> >PS: I know it a dismal score compared to a pentium, but I want to see if I
> >have a below average 6x86 system.
> >
> >Andy K.
> >
> 6x86-120, noname trio64
>
> 360x480 9.12fps
> 640x480 7.65
> 800x600 5.84
> 1024x768 4.01
> 512x384 9.7 fps.
> These results are comperable to p5-100. The 6x86 is a good processor, but
> pentium optimized fpu code its Achiles heel, like win95 for p6.

Are you using the TIMEREFRESH numbers when referring to fps?
On a Pentium Pro 200 I get 98.+ at the default, think it's 320x240 and
28.1 at 640x480. Those scores seem too low, are you using a different
thing to measure. Aside from TIMEREFRESH, that is.
BTW, this is at the begginning spot that the previous post mentioned. At some of the
other spots in the levels my TIMEREFRESH can be as high as 40 at 640x480.

JEB in Vegas
oz...@ix.netcom.com

Thomas Enderli, SZHETH

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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In 640x480 I get 12 fps and In 320x200 I get 28 fps.
My system P 133 with a Stingray 64 video.

Th. Enderli


Peter Collins

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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>Are you using the TIMEREFRESH numbers when referring to fps?
>On a Pentium Pro 200 I get 98.+ at the default, think it's 320x240 and
>28.1 at 640x480. Those scores seem too low, are you using a different
>thing to measure. Aside from TIMEREFRESH, that is.
>BTW, this is at the begginning spot that the previous post mentioned. At some of the
>other spots in the levels my TIMEREFRESH can be as high as 40 at 640x480.
>
>JEB in Vegas
>oz...@ix.netcom.com

What video card are you using?

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JEB in Vegas

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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A Matrox Mill 4 meg.

JEB in Vegas
oz...@ix.netcom.com

Jonathan Hoof

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Jul 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/12/96
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I, too, get 15fps at 320x200 same spot U mention in Shareware Quake. My
system:

Cyrix 6x86 120Mhz (oc'ed to 133Mhz)
Tyan Titan III MB with 512k PB cache
32MB EDO+32MB FPM memory
Matrox Millenium with 4MB WRAM
6GB of hard drive space, including 2 1.6GB Western Digital Caviar drives
SB16 PnP

Some benchmarks other than Quake I get:
WinStone 32: 124.8 (win95) 121.1 (winNT 3.51) Latest Matrox Drivers (as
of 7/11/96)
WinStone 96: 98.6 (win3.1, 16MB Vcache) 86.2 (win95)
WinBench
Graphics: 1024x768x256: 38.6 (Win95) 20.5 (WinNT)
CPU: 329/349 16bit/32bit (win31) 308/318 16bit/32bit (win95) 323/329
16bit/32bit winNT
DiskMark: 1960 (Win3.1 with 16MB vcache) 969 (Win95) 1200 (WinNT) all
run on same 1.6GB Caviar Drive

Warbirds 1.08: >27fps consistant, DOS version, 1024x768 mode
DOOM 1.9 shareware: doom -timedemo demo3 -nosound; score of 80.6
3Dbench: 200 Norton SI 8.0: ~904 (fluctuates by +/- 2 points with emm386)

These are actual figures. As these benchmarks show, the system is no
slouch. My framerates for Quake were on par with the average P75. Intel
has finally found justification for their FPU for the mainstream, and has
finally found a game that runs faster on the same MHz Pentium vs 6x86,
with all other components equal.

-Jonathan Hoof
ho...@agora.rdrop.com

PS: You can buy a Cyrix 120Mhz for the same price as a Pentium 120Mhz
these days. Why get a Pentium (other than for Quake), I don't know :)

Sidath Jayawardena (jal...@cs.brandeis.edu) wrote:
: KROMKAMP ANDY wrote:
: >
: > get 15 fps using TIMEREFRESH on Quake with a Cyrix 6x86 P150+ at the first


: > level beginning spot. This is with a Stingray 64 video card. Any other P150+
: > owners out there gettign similar?
: >
: > PS: I know it a dismal score compared to a pentium, but I want to see if I
: > have a below average 6x86 system.
: >
: > Andy K.

: It's because, compared to Intel's, Cyrix's FPU is, shall we say,

Francesco Ferrara from ITALY

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Jul 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/14/96
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ho...@agora.rdrop.com (Jonathan Hoof) wrote:

>I, too, get 15fps at 320x200 same spot U mention in Shareware Quake. My
>system:

>Cyrix 6x86 120Mhz (oc'ed to 133Mhz)
>Tyan Titan III MB with 512k PB cache
>32MB EDO+32MB FPM memory
>Matrox Millenium with 4MB WRAM
>6GB of hard drive space, including 2 1.6GB Western Digital Caviar drives
>SB16 PnP

>Some benchmarks other than Quake I get:

Please try this:

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Turbo95 1.3 results (ftp://ftp.aerre.it/pub/utility/turbo95.zip)
CPU:P133 FPU:38.2Mflops Cache:155MB/s Svga:54FPS Disk:3.0MB/s
NOTE: There is also a 486 version T95486.ZIP in the same directory!!!


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