Backup with BRMS - *MOUNTED not correct
Ziz Zaz
msg "MOUNTED is not correct" does always appear, even when there is a
volume was MOUNTED on the library tape drive.
Have you ever meet and solved this problem? I need some help from you
now, thanks a lot!
Hope to receive your idea and reply.
Best regards,
Ziz.
Marc Rauzier
> I have a tape library 3851, everytime I backup with my control group,
> msg "MOUNTED is not correct" does always appear, even when there is a
> volume was MOUNTED on the library tape drive.
And your backup fails ?
>
> Have you ever meet and solved this problem? I need some help from you
> now, thanks a lot!
When using the 3581 in random mode, you cannot access any tape without
specifying a tape label. I guess your 3581 uses this mode ?
If it is, you have to create and use a BRMS location which is exactly
the 3581 tape library and you have to move in BRMS inventory the media
which are physically in the library into the specified BRMS location.
Then you have to use this location in your control groups thru the
media policy.
>
> Hope to receive your idea and reply.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ziz.
>
--
Cordialement/Best regards
Marc Rauzier
Ziz Zaz
> Ziz Zaz racontait dans comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:
>
> > I have a tape library 3851, everytime I backup with my control group,
> > msg "MOUNTED is not correct" does always appear, even when there is a
> > volume was MOUNTED on the library tape drive.
>
> And your backup fails ?
No fail, it's ok, all items are saved. But i don't know how to correct
this problem.
> When using the 3581 in random mode, you cannot access any tape without
> specifying a tape label. I guess your 3581 uses this mode ?
Yes, I use 3851 in Random mode. But I don't see anything related to
tape label (volume ID) if I backup from control group. Can you show
it?>
> If it is, you have to create and use a BRMS location which is exactly
> the 3581 tape library and you have to move in BRMS inventory the media
> which are physically in the library into the specified BRMS location.
> Then you have to use this location in your control groups thru the
> media policy.
>
The iSeries system automatically create a location for 3851 tape
library. It is TAPMLB01. And I use it in the system policy, media
policy, move policy.
Quote: "and you have to move in BRMS inventory the media
which are physically in the library into the specified BRMS location."
--> I don't understand your words so much. What does you mean? And the
detail of actions?
And how about the move policy? BRMS/400 creates the OFFSITE move
policy like default. I don't understand move policy well, so can you
advise me to use it? We don't like to physically move the medias
(cartridges), because we want it automatic done everything we need, it
backup and we don't care about remove those tapes and return them to
the tape library. We have 5 tapes and we want it rotate all tapes for
the daily backup.
Marc Rauzier
> Marc Rauzier <marc.r...@netcourrier.com> wrote in message
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>> Ziz Zaz racontait dans comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:
>>
>> > I have a tape library 3851, everytime I backup with my control
>> > group, msg "MOUNTED is not correct" does always appear, even
>> > when there is a volume was MOUNTED on the library tape drive.
>>
>> And your backup fails ?
>
> No fail, it's ok, all items are saved. But i don't know how to
> correct this problem.
>
This is why I asked you this question. I have sometimes seen this
message and the backup was allways good. I assume BRMS wants to check
which is loaded in the tape drive, without any need, I believe.
>
>> When using the 3581 in random mode, you cannot access any tape
>> without specifying a tape label. I guess your 3581 uses this mode
>> ?
>
> Yes, I use 3851 in Random mode. But I don't see anything related
> to tape label (volume ID) if I backup from control group. Can you
> show it?>
Yes we are talking about the same thing. You are right, it is better to
say "Volume ID". BRMS chooses the volume thru the media policy you have
set up in the control group.
>
>> If it is, you have to create and use a BRMS location which is
>> exactly the 3581 tape library and you have to move in BRMS
>> inventory the media which are physically in the library into the
>> specified BRMS location. Then you have to use this location in
>> your control groups thru the media policy.
>>
>
> The iSeries system automatically create a location for 3851 tape
> library. It is TAPMLB01. And I use it in the system policy, media
> policy, move policy.
OK. We are talkning about the same thing.
>
> Quote: "and you have to move in BRMS inventory the media
> which are physically in the library into the specified BRMS
> location." --> I don't understand your words so much. What does
> you mean? And the detail of actions?
Mmmmh, probably my poor english :-)
I mean that the media BRMS inventory for the location TAPMLB01 *must*
match the medias physically loaded in the library TAPMLB01.
>
> And how about the move policy? BRMS/400 creates the OFFSITE move
> policy like default. I don't understand move policy well, so can
> you advise me to use it? We don't like to physically move the
> medias (cartridges), because we want it automatic done everything
> we need, it backup and we don't care about remove those tapes and
> return them to the tape library. We have 5 tapes and we want it
> rotate all tapes for the daily backup.
>
So, you do not have to set up any move policy.
Move policies are used to manage media moves between locations. For
example, we have the following move strategies (between our 3584
library shared by about 50 iSeries, a location around the library, and
a special site at 150km) :
for some customers, every tuesday, the weekly backup of some of our
customers are ejected and moved at 150 km
for other customers, every day, the previous (-2) backup is ejected and
moved at 150 km
for other customers, every day, older media are ejected and moved in
the location around the library (because they have more medias than the
30 slots allowed in the library)
for some customers, there are no moves, the medias allways stay in the
library
All these kinds of moves are automated and managed with BRMS within
various move policies.
>
>> >
>> > Hope to receive your idea and reply.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Ziz.
>> >
--
Cordialement/Best regards
Marc Rauzier
Ziz Zaz
> Ziz Zaz racontait dans comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:
>
> > Marc Rauzier <marc.r...@netcourrier.com> wrote in message
> > news:<Xns93828763360...@127.0.0.1>...
> >> Ziz Zaz racontait dans comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc:
> >>
> >> > I have a tape library 3851, everytime I backup with my control
> >> > group, msg "MOUNTED is not correct" does always appear, even
> >> > when there is a volume was MOUNTED on the library tape drive.
> >>
> >> And your backup fails ?
> >
> > No fail, it's ok, all items are saved. But i don't know how to
> > correct this problem.
> >
>
> This is why I asked you this question. I have sometimes seen this
> message and the backup was allways good. I assume BRMS wants to check
> which is loaded in the tape drive, without any need, I believe.
And we will ignore this msg and don't care about it, won't we?
> >
> >> When using the 3581 in random mode, you cannot access any tape
> >> without specifying a tape label. I guess your 3581 uses this mode
> >> ?
> >
> > Yes, I use 3851 in Random mode. But I don't see anything related
> > to tape label (volume ID) if I backup from control group. Can you
> > show it?>
>
> Yes we are talking about the same thing. You are right, it is better to
> say "Volume ID". BRMS chooses the volume thru the media policy you have
> set up in the control group.
I mean that I cannot backup my control group with the specific tape
(no area for me to specify the volume ID), because I have a idea that
on Monday, I backup data on Volume ID MON, and Tuesday on volume ID
TUE, and so on. Do you have any idea about this case?
Did you mean that I don't need to create a move policy in my situation
and BRMS will automatically rotate all the tapes for me?
I have some more questions about the tape rotation. In backup policy I
set some parameters like following:
Clear . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *NONE
Object pre-check . . . . . . . . : *NO
Append to media . . . . . . . . : *YES
End of tape option . . . . . . . : *LEAVE
So does the tape library save full tape by tape (I mean that does it
writes on tape 1 and after tape 1 is full, it writes on tape 2, and so
on to the last tape and rotate back the first tape for new cycle?) OR
in the first day, it writes on the tape 1, and the next day, it writes
on the tape 2, and so on, after it writes on the last tape in the
library, it will starts new cycle from tape 1, but writes new data
after the existing data on tape 1 (still active and expired)? If it
comes to 2nd situation (I PREFER THIS WAY), when tape 1 is nearly
full, and the data backup this day is bigger than the remain capacity
of this tape, how will it write data? Does it write data on the tape 1
until it's full and then continues to write on the tape 2 OR it starts
to write data from tape 2 (does not write any data on tape 1) OR it
rewinds the tape 1 and write from the beginning, of course the data in
the first part of the tape 1 is expired (I like the tape library works
like this 3rd way)?.
If you know about this, and my configuration does not make the tape
library work like i want (as I said above about each situation), can
you show the detail of actions I need to do for implementing it?
Thanks a lot!
Best wishes for you,
Ziz
René E. Breedveld
save can use volume mounted.
regard,
René
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Ziz Zaz
"*Mounted not correct" and the backup data was straight to all my
tapes (the library mounted and wrote data to almost tapes it has).
After that, when I read the redbook BRMS/400 carefully, I saw that
BRMS/400 does not recommend to use SETTAPCGY combinates with BRMS.
If someone has any idea, please share with me. Thanks!
"René E. Breedveld" <mr...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<1053728904.624264@cache1>...
René E. Breedveld
do saves
outside brms. (no groups needed, normal save commands used)
When you've loaded the tapes, you'll have to reset the volume sequence on
the device.
You must also check the waittime to load, in the configuration of the
device.
regards,
René
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